1) I can name plenty of wars that had nothing to do with Atheism.
2) You said WWII had nothing to do with religion. I'd double check that if I were you.
3) The crusades, 9/11, the inquisition... Plenty of people have killed in the name of religion. Even in wars where religion was not the cause, it can still play a crucial role in how they were started, fought, and ended.
if religion didn't exist the dark ages would have been skipped to the renaissance giving 1000 years of scientific advances (although this guy proberly thinks science is the devils), there would be more equality since monarchy would have never been given a christdom status, all though those kiddy fidiling papist would not have been protected and juesus christ would not have been cruscified.
@staddis Religion is a necessary part of human history, and to say "if it didn't exist" is like saying "if pigs could fly" etc...
When you say "more equality" I take it you mean the establishment of a democratic state or republic? Such a thing would have been impossible in the middle ages. Without government in the form of a monarchy, Europe would have been utter chaos. It took the idea of a democratic republic thousands of years to develop into what we now have today: the United States
a world wth no religeon, will still mean there is war, you see retards like bin laden twist religeon as an EXSCUSE to war, peace be upon ALL who read this.
@peacefularab exactly. if there is no religion, bin laden type terrorists would use more rational excuses to cause war, not just 'because god made me do it'
Conflict is intrinsic to human nature, there are various religions that are in conflict with one another...many of their conflicting viewpoints lead to violence and, yes...even war.
@pamuk7 Conflict is intrinsic to human nature, there are various religions that are in conflict with one another...many of their conflicting viewpoints lead to violence and yes...even war.
The cause isn't religious people, its CONSERVATIVE people, the most dangerous people on earth the ones who created ALL wars & are orthodox religious freaks... republicans, communists, muslims & hard heads.
@jinchodemierda The cause is that conflict is intrinsic to human nature...One impetus for violence is conflicting views on the nature and rule of god. Therefore, religion is an impetus for violence...especially for those who feel strongly about the veracity of their beliefs. The cause may not be religious people but the result is certainly people of religious conviction moved to violence.
@vashcerom you suspect fundamentalists without even havinf read the book? and dont bash your friends' religions online. thats not what i would call a friend, just being honest. I have to sleep nice talking to you.
Do you deny that Many wars were caused by religion? The real value of religion is in promoting social interaction and hence understanding between people. However religion claims to know things that they do not and this is the bone of contention Also, the presence of different religions in todays "shrinking" world gives rise to conflict, even different interpretation of the same religion (eg Sunni vs Shiite). The world would undoubtedly be better off without religion.
The majority of people are perfectly okay with the practice of religion. Atheists are a minority. For those who stick up for Darwin it's kind of comical actually. Didn't he suggest that those who adapt to their environment are the most likely to thrive?
@Kooshkff I actually have no problem with the practice of religion in its normal moderate forms...it it he fundamentalists who scare me, with their intolerance. Atheists are in fact growing in number. Based on the science evolution is considered a fact. The scientific meaning of the word "theory" is different to that understood in everyday language, it relates to a hypothesis that has a large body of evidence on its side.
I'm aware of scientific "theory." (although I don't recall using that word.) I have to point out to you that "fact" also means something else in science. Science is, however, not the topic. I meant that as a footnote.
What I'm worried about is what an atheist considers a "fundamentalist." If I go to Mosque twice on Friday do I qualify? If you go through each day with that thinking i don't see how you could sleep at night.
@Kooshkff I consider a fundamentalist someone who takes all of his professed scripture literally and acts on these beliefs in spite of causing harm to others. (I just made up this defn but it seems to embody the main ideas). The freq of going to mosque prob has nothing to do with this idea. I sleep quite well ...I suppose because I value truth. Who knows, in time we may in fact find god, but I am sure it will bear very little relation to that proposed by organized religion.
Have you ever considered that religion is not the root cause of terrorism ("fundamentalism")?
In times of war religion can become a political tool for soldiers. Just as in the United States education and money are the carrot they wave in front of their heads.
Have the Americans' Iraq veterans received any of their promises? Many are sleeping in the streets.
Likewise the terrorists have taken the bait. They have misunderstood the meaning of Jihad.
@Kooshkff fundamentalism is not the only thing that can provoke terrorism, however I believe it definitely fuels such radical notions esp when some followers, as in any human population, possess inherent psychological weaknesses. Fundamentalists seem to brainwash their followers and this is dangerous. Yes religion is a tool....Education would be a positive force, not a subversive one. The US has indeed let down many of their vets but 2 wrongs do not make right. Pls Explain Jihad...I do not know
I went to go visit my family in America. I visited the book store and I decided to have a look in the high school history exams book. You know.. the ones that prepare you for exams.
Would you mind explaining to me why they felt it necessary to explain how women were mistreated in the middle east in 600 AD? Because to my knowledge the europeans were still lopping off the heads of anyone who the king didn't like (and worse).
@Kooshkff I am making a distinction between education (provable truths) and simple propaganda which usually contains some untruths. Yes women were mistreated in 600AD middle east. Yes europeans were commiting atrocities, and still are (Bosnia). Maybe they put in the former fact because of they are also inciting hatred. I strongly suspect that the authors were religious fundamentalists...a very bad thing in any religion.
I don't understand why so many of those who reject God because of the lack of proof are the same who will buy into the word on the street. Before 9-11 there was hardly a whisper about this. Now it's all you hear about. This intolerance is being spread to support more war. Critical thinking can only get you to that conclusion.I have never seen a muslim attack a German. But I've a turkish woman kicked in the breasts. and I've hear people screaming "keine muslime in deutschland!"
@Kooshkff I am very skeptical that atheists in general really "buy into the word on the street". We are a skeptical bunch. I disagree that critical thinking is faulty....it encourages so much discovery, innovation and therefore is a cornerstone of human progress. You are absolutely right that intolerance will lead to more war. Most atheists are quits tolerant. I have muslim friends and family. Also hindu, christian, agnostic friends and family. No Mormons or scientologists though.
@vashcerom Wars would have been fought anyway. Human beings are instinctively violent and will use anything as an excuse to be so, wether it be religious or political issues. The only solution to this problem in the past was the use of religion as a means of taming the masses and keeping them under control, so in that sense religion and the advancement of society act in correlation. It was a useful tool for every Roman emperor and every European monarch.
Anyone who says there will be peace without religion is an idiot. As long as there are people there will always be war, death, and other atrocities. My problem with religion is the person or people who uses religion for personal gain. I agree with facts, however I don't agree with fairy tales or people who believe in religion for salvation because of the unknown.
i watched 30cec. of your video and don't need to watch more to be able to describe what your main fault in your point of view is.
only one sentence..wait...here it comes:
"to say, the world would be a saver place without religion does not mean, it would be a world without violence."
so as you can see. you misunderstood the message totaly but nonetheless as the more vid's i watch, made by you, the more i would like to discuss other arguments, but this one, you got totaly wrong.
All you have pointed out is that wars happen. Not all wars are religion based yes. But in many wars, religion plays apart, many wars are justified on religious grounds. "lets kill all of this religious group and then take what we want." Religion is a means to an end in many many wars! People will always fight over something but at least if we take out the imaginary man in the sky, thats one less thing to fight and kill are selfs over. Wonder what the body count is for religous suiside bombings
Religeon did play a part on 9/11, and alot of people have been affected as a result. The best thing that can happen is that Christians and Muslims realise that they have the same values and that they are worshiping the same God.
In my opinion the world would be a better palce without athiests. That makes you angry doesnt it? Then think twice because we both think the same about each other.
The soviet union was athiest run and they killed around 700 MILLION of their own people to keep grasp of their land and to defeat the Germans. Also the union remained a athiest run union and they invaded many country's and commited huge war crimes, like in Afghanistan, they bombed random cities, burned down mosques killed imams ect, then the entire Afghanistan population establishes the Taliban and kicks the Athiest's ass then the Soviiet athiest's call the Taliban terrorists! HA!
WWII was a continuation of WWI that didn't officially end until 1989. This was caused by the league of nations not stepping in and keeping the peace after WWI. This is why the UN does these actions in the middle east. To stop WWIV. Religion does not cause every single war. But without religion it would stop most of them. Then we would only have to worry about race and ignorance. Then again religion only exist in ignorance to begin with. YAWY was a man not a god. Read your history.
After the state of Israel was created there has been so many religions wars there including Iraqi scud missiles bombing Israel. The west actually asked Israel to stay out of the war and just take the bombing also because of fears of religious problems. Not all wars are over religion. But almost all wars are based on this. Almost ever single war he listed was directly religious. And he left out all the other religious wars conveniently.
WWII he says was not religions. That is why Japan believe that they had a living god and that there race and religion was superior and they needed to be the masters of all other Asian countries. This is why they killed 30 million Chinese civilians alone. The Germans believed that there race that there religion was superior and this is why they killed 6 million jews. Russia killed between 10 and 30 million civilians inside there own country for same reason.
Does this person have 1 single correct fact. I only watched half of this video and was shocked at the lack of knowledge.
First 1 fact that might be helpful for people who keep claiming the USA has anything to do with the middle east because of oil. These people must understand that the oil is sold to other countries not the usa. Gas in usa cost 2 to 3 USD dollars for a gallon about 4 liters. Gas in other countries cost about 3 to 4 times this much. That is because USA makes it's own gas.
Sami, I've never held the belief that no religion = peace. However, it's certainly true that a lot of problems in the world would go with religion. Different religious have enormous capacity to create a void of unnecessary prejudice between different religious groups. Also, there would no longer be the false justification of "God told me to" (something George W. Bush said about the invasion of Iraq).
Most of the problems of the world aren't caused by religion, but a lot are.
One place that was the starting point against all those ANCIENT GREEK AND NORSE AND EGYPTIAN GODS. Three kings, whose legacy has turned this world into double standards and lies. Three streams, that flooded and corrupted minds.
Once all three are connected, then we might know the truth, why the separation even happened in the first place, like the "legend" tells.
Now its only better for all of us to not fight for something that has lies and secrets for these past 2000 years.
And now... Its overall all the same... only one detail changed.... Atheists or more likely called the logical people, who know that religions is just a tool. Religion is a tool of destruction and suffering. No peace, TRUE PEACE can't be found, when Vatican, Rabis or your Islamic religious leaders spin one theme up and up again: "We are innocent, others are to blame!"
For all that is good sake, all those three religions have one birthplace, one beginning......
Even your Islam wasn't untouched by those wars. Especially Second world war, because it gave greatly suffered and sacrificed Jews a HUGE leverage to spread their tale and get some kind of territory from those who were morally forced to do so.
So now we have Israel, who religiously believes to have all rights and no flaws. And they blame everyone else, because they moved to a territory, which was full of muslims. From that point on wars and violence were pretty much weekly, even daily.Continues..
In ancient times, wars and fights were caused from need for food, materials, slaves.
After religion was made(it doesn't even matter which one first), wars and violence with racism and every other disgusting act was IN FACT JUSTIFIED BY RELIGION!
And that is done to this day! 1st and second world wars have actually somewhat deep connections to organized religion, like anti-semitism and anti-peace.
Even your Islam wasn't untouched. Continues on the next comment.......
@noggless1234 i say all us atheists move to a country of our own. i guarantee it would be the most scientifically advanced and peaceful nation in the world. hell, id bet we would be so advanced that in a few thousand years our nation after we left earth would be considered the "atlantis" of our time because we would be smart enough to destroy it when we left so none of these ignorant and violent religious people will have what we have
the darfur war was spawned out of an islamic war on the christians in the south, who happened to be majority black, it now continues in an " ethnic war"
@Fiorentina222, there are very few Christians in Darfur, the Darfuri Rebel group called the JEM is actually an Islamist militia too, other Darfuri rebel groups like the SLM is a secular Darfuri Nationalist militia, the Darfur conflict is a separate conflict from the North vs South, the Darfur conflict is really about a typical military dictatorship of a gov't "stopping an insurgency"
@Fiorentina222, those Sudanese "Arabs" are really Arabized Africans, the Darfur conflict is a spin off of the Libya-Chad conflict of the 80's that spilled across the border into Darfur, Arab nationalism is the cause of it, similar to like with the Arab and Kurdish conflict in Iraq
@Troy62486 they scream allah huakbar as they torch villages decapitate people and rape women though. they are justifiying their actions with their religon.
@Fiorentina222 Okay kids, gather up! It's story time! Raping women is not in Islamic belief. Nor killing people. They are extremists. A group of Christians, the crusaders, did just that a long time ago. Do Muslims and Jews blame the whole world for it (Christianity is all over the world)? Okay, story time's over. Think about our little talk Fiorentina222.
@pokerpokerball firstly i am NOT christian so stop assuming that, typical... do you really think im STUPID enough to have a religion? remember that the crusades were in resppnse to aggressive islamist expanison. violence is responded to by VIOLENCE. and religions is just one more excuse (the major one too) for VIOLENCE. think about that ¬¬
People will always fight. religion or no religion its not religion thats evil its people that are evil. people like to fight. just look at the entertainment idustry, what video games are popular?, ones where u go around planting trees and looking at flowers, or ones where u grab a gun and shoot every mother fucker you see. what do people want to play on xbox hippy tree hugger 3000 or COD, you all love it admit it you love fighting and war, you just dont like when you get shot or look bad.
Your an idiot for 2 reasons. First your Muslim and i will debate with you till the cows come home about that. Second a world without religion will HELP PREVENT WAR, Also you did not mention one war that was caused by religon. There is a term for this it's called bias.
@MnE4life Looking at dumb comments of dumb people like you I understand why there will always be a WAR in the world. The guy in the video couter-arguments what is being thrown at him by atheists who say thah the world without a religion will be a peaceful place. The only thing he does is bringing facts against the atheist claim. Whether religion can be a cause of a war is irrelevant here because even if you remove religion the war is there, that's the whole issue. Biased is you, dumbhead.
@JackSparrowDepp If you believe this than your just as bad and you are the reason why wars are started. Any atheist worth his salt will say if there is not religion about there will be less war. Muslims are war hungry, that's plain and simple. Muslims are picking fights all the time.
no wait wait wait, you begin with every FUCKING video with: YOU KNOW, well i do know one thing, your a stupid ass looking like an man that got born out of an ass and got stuck there for 5 hours, then had to POO you out and you would have an ass face for whole your life
Um the Holocaust was because of Hitler's animosity towards jews. Jews = religion.
Also, you make many fair points. But i will make a the point that a world without religion would be significantly BETTER then it is today. No stonings. No inequality towards women. No Terrorizing "infidels" No killing abortion doctors. No protesting hatred on the streets. No stalling scientific progress for religious freedom. I could go on...
@TheFreeThinkingMan Hitler didn't hate Jews for their beliefs, but for their prosperity. He blamed them for the poverty in the rest of Germany. So he didn't hate Jews as a religion, but as an ethnicity. Even atheist Jews like Freud needed to flee the country to be safe.
I don't think I have ever heard an atheist make the claim "no religion = no violence". I've heard the world would be better because all the death and suffering caused by religion would be gone. How was world war 2 not about religion? The Vatican was backing a religious nut who was bent on killing everyone who was not Aryan in the name of God.
Then please enlightened us which religion in the world orders killing everyone who is not Aryan in the name of God? I will help you: if a religion can be used by people as a tool to kill other people while it doesn't order to kill people, then it's not religion's fault (it doesn't have to do anything to with religion). Therefore even if you get rid of a religion people will use use other tools to kill each other. What's the fault of a pen if you take it kill someone with it?
we cant condemn voilence as muslims, when islam allows voilence it is more in terms of a policeman taking to arms and weapons so that the crazy stay at bay, and though killing of innocent by the so called muslim terroist is condemned, voilence is an integral part of todays society to keep crime at bay :-)
I stopped watching as soon as you claimed the war in Iraq was for oil. Gas prices are higher than ever today, and most oil rigs in Iraq are not even owned by the USA but by other nations, much the same with Afghanistan. The US has brought it's economy to the brink of collapse by pouring money into the infrastructure of Iraq, and so far has not received any compensation for that and the lives lost other than strategically valuable military bases, which are being closed rapidly today.
"ww 2 the couse wus not religion.." incase u didnt know jews kiling jesus was or used to be..i duno if it is enylonger a part of the catholic dogma..hitler was catholic and hes victims were jews..that was one of the resons..he had more ofc.
You think listing a bunch of non religion related conflicts totally negates all the violence that has been done in the name of religion? We've never claimed that there wouldn't be anymore violence without religion, but it would certainly be a start.
3)all false...and bullshit and crap put together......and he forgets to mention the inquisition ...alredy 1000 yrs......the wars he mentioned are an indirect result of the inquisition.
4)indeed greedy and powerhunger over people...playing the masses....like religion does....becouse religion thrives on war....suffering brings people back to poverty and the church.
Why are you wasting time trying to prove to everyone that god exist? if you believe that he exist that's fine that's all that matters it's your opinion your entitled to it but personally I don't believe in him.
you know it´s gonna end in one way. there is going to be someone who´s been abused by members of islam and revenges. the person creates group of other abused and they destroy mekka´s stone, causing third world war. religions are deeply hated afterwards and forgotten. that´s the moment when people realize that it´s not the god who is supposed to make their lives perfect, it´s their own duty. in future there are anyways only two groups of people left, those who flew and those who dived underwater.
Why are muslims always trying to fool people into trying to make believe that islam is "peace". Please. All you have to do is read many of the hadiths to see how the witnesses tell how Muhammed killed, plundered, distributed the spoils of his victimes, people who were in peace and Muhammed attacked. Read the hadiths. Sura 8 is called "the booty of war", "very peaceful". Muhammed was a warrior, not a man of peace
Why are muslims always making propaganda? If islam is so "scientific" why is it that islamic countries are so poor, so backward? Why is it that islamic countries never participated in any modern scientific, technological discovery? Islamic countries never won a Nobel Prize of science, nothing. Thanks to western and asian countries islamic countries have electricity, TV, computers, cars, etc. Islamic countries are poor, backward and reduced to religious ignorance
War sucks. Why are all these people fighting? This fighting needs to stop. Whether it is on the battle field or over the internet. It needs to stop. Fighting will not benefit anyone. All it does is create more hate in our hearts for eachother. Is this what you desire? I don't hate other religions and I want us all to get along. But the ignorant actions of others are prevent this from happening. The ignorant people don't realize how much the actions effect others.
Out of all the wars that have been recorded in the history books, religion only summed up less than 7% of all wars. In fact, Marxism has killed more people than every religious kill combined.
you're just concentrating on wars, wasn't seperation of india pakistan killed over 15 million people. And every 5 years hindu muslims starts killing each other for sake of their religion. And how about suni shia drilling holes in each other head for thousands of years. Humans are very tribal in nature and religion just make that cause much much worst.
There is nothing in the Quran which allows us to kill innocent people. Prophet Mohammed PBUH's last speech to his soldiers before going to war against Meccans was to:
- Not to kill innocent people.
- Not to kill children.
- Not to kill women.
- Not to kill soldier without weapon.
- Not to kill enemy who runs into someone home for refuge.
When I see the way you lie, telling people that islam is a religion of peace, telling people that "the quran only teaches violence to defend onself", etc..I realize that religion is sthing dangerous. Islam is a religion of hatred, violence. Muhammed was a warrior who taught the expansion of islam through aggression. The hadiths are full of tales of his crimes, his lack of morality. Just read some violent texts in the quran: 2:216, 2:191, 4:95, 8:12, 9:05, 9:29, 9:39, 9:123
Catholics are 160 times more likely to end up in US Federal Prison than Atheists. Your Pals are 1,200 times more likely. Protestants are 60 times more likely, jews are 102 times more likely. Look up the demographics of US federal Prisons, and Demographics of americans. equation: % in jail of a particular religion divided by % in population of that same religion 1 would mean perfect balance. Muslim: 12 twelve Catholic: 1.6 Protestant: 0.6 Jewish: 1 Atheist: .012
you might be correct about how religion may have not been the motive. But I believe america made it one or the muslim world who knows . we know so little about 911 we have no idea what went down it could of been fixed or terrorists could have planned it .either way it angered the muslims when america attacked. and know we havea war based on ideologies. even if it wasnt the motive it's the outcome.atheism strives for one thing a secular gov't and science which is why you can post such a bs video
the majority of people that supported bush and the Neocons did so for religious reasons. Although religion isnt necessarily the direct cause of these wars, it certainly acts as the fuel.
The thing is though, if you get a rid of religion, something will take its place, like race, nationality, etc. Disposing religion would be pointless. It is something in human nature that makes us do these things.
@TheVodkaHaze No, if you get rid of religion, you get rid of a major cause of conflict - race, nationality, desire for more cows, etc. are all causes of conflict already. Getting rid of one does not mean that the rest will expand to cover the gap.
That's like saying if we solve world hunger, disease will kill more people to take its place.
Isreal/Palestine causing the biggest divide within the world since WW2
US/Afghanistan, came off he back of the US vs religions fundamentalists
Russia/checnya caused backed by religion fundamentalists keen to spread sharia law.
Bosnia/Yugoslavian war based on both ethnic and religious divide.
Current US/Iraq war,maybe not caused but fuelled in part by shia/sunni divide. Regarding the ones you stated, many of them although started for reasons of independence, now imploy religion as cause,
@TomVu99 You are uneducated about Islam. Please do not say ignorant things that you heard from another ignorant person. There have always been wars as far back as history goes. Islam did not invent war. Islam provides practical guidelines for every area of living, including times of warfare. You seem unaware that Muhammad lived in persecution by his own people just as Jesus and the other Prophets of God.
@SevethHeaven I heard that Muhammad Hijacked Mecca with 10,000 army and forced everyone to convert to islam. That's why today Saudi arabia is 100% Muslim and they cannot leave their islamic religion or die under shariah law.
TomVu99 Muhammad was born in Mecca and orphaned by age 6. When he received the prophecy he was 40. He struggled with the idol worshipping Meccans because of his Message of One God. He and his followers were persecuted heavily. Some who converted to his Message left Mecca to get to Medina to be safe. Good word about the Prophet spread among the Medina tribes, and he finally made it safely to Medina having to hide, strategically going there in a roundabout way--the Meccans were after his blood.
Muhammad was welcomed by the Medina tribes and it was the first place to accept him. Muhammad didn't come to conquer, he came for safety and to give his Message. The Medinans loved the Prophet; he became their chief arbitrator, source of guidance, and later military commander when the Meccans began their attacks on Medina. Muhammad happened to be the greatest military commander to exist, and also the greatest of diplomats. After 10 years of warring, the Meccans accepted a treaty by Muhammad.
SevethHeaven, I aso heard that muhammad was rejected by the meccans because the meccans do not want want islam and muhammad left mecca to medina and recruited 10,000 army just to take over mecca. and once he did, he went to the kaaba and threw out all the statues out and replced it with a meteorite and forced the people to worship it. Muhammad expelled the jews, christians, zoroastrians and pagans out of saudi arabia. There is no freedom of religion in islam.
TomVu99, are you trying to make me laugh? I don't mean to be rude, I apologize. Did you not read my very short biography of Muhammad pbuh that I wrote here especially in reply to your comment and question? Islam did not fall out of the sky and take over--it was like a grass roots movement that gained acceptance and sincere followers with time. He never recruited an army, the early believers were defending Medina and way of life. They never worshipped a meteorite, lol, where did you hear this?
TomVu99, If you are sincerely interested in the life of Muhammad and the spread of Islam, please google CAIR, the Council of American Islamic Relations. They have an excellent and unbiased biography of the Prophet, pbuh, which describes pre-Islamic times in Arabia, the life of the Prophet, and the growth of Islam. Many interesting battle stories too. I think they still give out free copies of this book called "Muhammad".
@SevethHeaven. I have read Muhammad's bio and he does not believe in freedom of religion, women are worth less than half of men, apostates and adultrers are to be killed, jews are apes and pigs, and on and on. I just dont see the truth in islam, It's not there. Show me.
TomVu99 As I said before you did not get your info from a reliable and truthful source. There is no way to argue a disbeliever to accept faith. The Quran states, you will not worship that which I worship, and I will not worship that which you worship.
You say you don't see truth in Islam. You have not looked for it. You are looking only for things which uphold your disbelief.
@TomVu99 you know, if you actually did more studying and read a real bio about the prophet, then you wouldn't sound so stupid, Muhammed (SWT) doesn't belive in freedom of religion? what sort of bullshit bio did you read? Muhammed actually allowed the pagan people to live in safety, without fear of getting attacked and killed, just as long as they were good citizens and paid their taxes. fornicators are like animals, running around and and " making love" with 10 other people
@TomVu99 You say '' I have read Muhammad's bio'' ? Really ? WOW, so after you read it this is what you have concluded? That is amazing, it really is. Mohammed IS an amazing example of freedom !
LoL you dont even have freedom of religion. and if you leave islam you are to be killed. Look at saudi arabia, libya, somalia, afghanistan, iran and other coutries like it. they still execute apostates!
@TomVu99 How do you speak for me? I ''don't have freedom of religion?'' are you kidding me? Wow, I'm not even going to go further to explain, it's like a broken record.
For a MUSLIM to say that religion doesn't cause wars is LUDICROUS! How about the war America continues to fight right now? Those fools didn't fly airplanes into the twin towers because of their primitive religion?
@vivalaleta , listen to Sami's video on jihad. He does not condone the terrorist acts as part of Islam. These were a few rogue people who were puppets. The so-called war against so-called terrorism has turned into a war on Muslims. Ironically the oil comes from these regions at war, it is a war for oil, under the false flag of war on terrorism.
I just read the qu'ran and it is chock full of vicious viloence. It's rules are to KILL everyone who will not give in to Islam. I have studied the Christian bible and thought that IT was so immoral. Christians just like to over look that side of their God but Muslims still mainly believe in that part of their wicked God. How many sorts of threats against my person have I had on YouTube from Muslims? They do themselves no service.
@vivalaleta I can't help you with your prooblem of not seeing the beauty of the Quran which is so evident. You are reading into it your own prejudice. The Quran says: "Verily, those who disbelieve, it is the same with them whether you (O Muhammad saws) warn them or do not warn them, they will not believe."
With all due respect, I think your study skills are lacking, and you have a chip on your shoulder about Islam and Muslims. Why is that?
@vivalaleta I just looked at your channel and comments, so I understand why you have gotten threats (if that is even true). You obviously like to provoke others, especially people of faith. If you don't attack religious people, chances are you will not receive problems. I guess you like feeling persecuted.
Oh, so I point out that Islam's God said to kill, kill, kill and Mohammed was a violent sex addict and that makes it okay that Muslims tell me they will rape me in front of my children and then kill me? Go ahead and stick to your nasty religion - you fit right in.
@vivalaleta , I'm sorry you are struggling so much with God, I hope you reach a level of personal relationship with God so that you do not spew hatred on people who have done you no harm. A truly religious person, no matter what religion, is the one who wishes and prays for the good welfare of others. You have a very sick and perverted idea of Islam. Please stop feeding your mind with fuel for hatred. Do you personally know any Muslims or had a Muslim friend?
Have you even read your own holy book? Sure there are mandates to take care of orphans, etc. but it's loaded with cruel intentions toward nonbelievers - in THIS life. I'm sorry that you are so willfully deluded and happily filling up your life with baloney - but that's YOUR decision though it's my right to tell you the evidence of it's misanthropic meaness.
@vivalaleta The question is, have YOU even read my holy Book. It seems not. Why don't you give a verse which you find horrific and I will try to help you put it in proper context. So far your argument is not substantiated by anything except your own bias. I would like to know where you got your info @ Islam from. If it is the Quran, then please give the source of your antipathy. I am happy to help God willing.
@vivalaleta During pre-Islamic times, the Arabian peninsula was made up of caravan raiders and slave traders and ignorant unlettered people who buried girl babies alive and lived by their raw instincts. The advent of Muhammad's (pbuh) message in the Quran brought mercy to the downtrodden people, the orphans, the widows, and those captured in war. Raiding, pillaging, intoxication and raping were commonplace before Muhammad (pbuh) made his testimony from God for a good society.
So you are talking about moral evolution? Then it's high time to for us humans to start a better sense of morality - i.e. no killing infidels - Gods are primitive imaginations because they had no idea about why disasters, etc. happened. We know better now and it's time to give up all this religious baloney.
vivalaleta, Moral evolution of our species is a false concept. If you look around you at the horrors that are caused by human beings in the world, including those of secular people (as mentioned in Sami's video) the human conscience has not evolved at all. Humans are a species prone to both good and bad attributes, and the best each one of us can do is to personally struggle against the bad things. God is not primitive in the sense you describe. Most of the modern world believes in God.
For all those arguing that war and conflict is not the fault of religion, but is because of its misuse by political leaders. A quote from the Roman philosopher and statesman, Seneca. As true today as it was 2000 years ago:
"Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by rulers as useful"
Getting rid of religion is as likely to happen as me growing wings, me intestines get located to my feet and migrating to the south for the winter. It's LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE!!!
actually, just mentioning the two world wars would suffice. how about the crusades? wasnt it also started because of lies not religion? Whatever his name was who started the crusades, just used religion to brainwash people into thinking that "god wants you to fight". is there any war that was based purely on religion?
the crusades were actually a lie to the public by the catholic church to gain the strategic placement of jerusalem and told catholics they would be fighting for christ
getting rid of religion will not get rid of human's ability to murder one another, and it will not somehow "advance" society to a new state of enlightenment. What it will do is get rid of the only books in the world that say NOT to kill each other.
Actually, no religion has ever really been responsible for any war. It has always been political organization exploiting religion to get their citizens to "fight for God's war"
The big question is does being religious predispose people to being violent? I would say yes. Religion is unfortunately headstrong in regards to a, "My god is right! You don't believe in my god and you are wrong!" worldview
Get your head outta your ass and stop making sweeping generalizations. When you look at history you can see that before industrial revolution the main factor has been religious disputes still present today. And power hungry people know how to use religion as citizen control.
You're missing the point when you try and tout out numbers and say, "Look! These are wars actually NOT about religion!" When to some degree many of them were. In Hitler and Stalin's regime there may not have been a unifying religion but it was a form of STATE worship.
Hitler was catholic and Japan thought their emperor was somewhat of a God so that can tie into some of their motives. No reasonable person would say no religion = no disputes EVER. As long as theres humans there'll be conflict.
As an atheist, I'm not naive to think a 100% secular world would be conflict free.
A world 100% united under the same religion wouldn't be peaceful as people would be re-interpreting religious texts. Also, a common theocracy would not rule out territorial disputes and resource-based conflicts.
A 100% secular world also wouldn't rule out territorial disputes and resource-based wars, but there would be no religious conflicts of any kind as there would be no religion.
The Vietnam and Korean Wars were started because US government viewed communism as a threat to capitalist and christian values. Due to the strident rants of one Senator Joseph McCarthy, these wars were all about christianity vs. communism.
The Muslims have been fighting the Hindus in India for many years, not openly but they've not exactly been peaceful.
The Crusades, Reconquista, conquest and annihilation of Central America was due to religious fervour.
World War 2 was started by Hitler's aggresive foreign policy. He honestly believed God had sent him to establish a third German Empire lasting 1000 years. He was born in a catholic school, he was brought up a catholic.
He persecuted the Jews and scapegoated them as they were in charge of Germany's WW1 economy and he had hated them prior to that because they had Jesus killed. The Japanese expansion in Asia and the Pacific was motivated by Shintoism, a religion.
....? when did this happen? What religion has killed more people than all the wars combined? or wait a minute......did you just pull that out of your ass??? I think sooo... :)
It's a well known fact that religion is the greatest source of conflict in the history of humanity. You don't need to do a lot of research to figure that out.
"If religion didn't exist, good people would do good things, and evil people would do evil things. But for good people to do evil things, it takes religion." - Steven Weinberg
you're just assuming that, you have no statistics or evidence to back up your claim. The vatican started the crusades, not RELIGION, the VATICAN started the inquisition, not RELIGION, fear and ignorance cause the witch trials, NOT RELIGION. You are just saying, "no no no, trust me, religion is to blame, and to prove it, I've got a quote from a scientist, who MUST know, he IS a scientist!" The problem isnt religion, it's people who are blindly repeating what they heard, "religion is bad."
Actually, fear and ignorance is another thing that religion causes.
Look, if someone tells people that they have to kill all jews or muslims in the name of god, it doesn't really matter what motives this person has. It was religion that brainwashed the people to believe everything this person says.
Oh, and if you want evidence that "religion is bad", as you so bluntly put it, then just open a historybook. Or even a newspaper.
If you are TRULY following the faith of the three Abrahamic religions, you're not supposed to be following what leaders say "god wants you to do," thats false. What ended the crusades? LITERACY, because people read the bible for THEMSELVES and saw, "wow, God says NOT to kill one another." If you're readnig religion is bad, it's cause it was written by fools who think if you ban a belief, people wont be evil or murderous. I dont expect you to get it, cause scandinavians have ALWAYS been pagan.
God says "thou shalt not kill, god says "those who work on the sabbath should be put to death", god says "A man who lies with another man should be put ot death, god says "those who curse their mother and father should be put to death".
You're right, the bible is very clearly against paople killing one another...
And I never said that people would stop killing if religion was banned. Try to actually understand what I'm saying.
Oh, and I will ignore your very stupid comment on scandinavians.
Relgion has created war, like the talaban and alkieder, forr alllaaahhhh
Battlefcon1 2 days ago
Your facts aren't quite straight.
1) I can name plenty of wars that had nothing to do with Atheism.
2) You said WWII had nothing to do with religion. I'd double check that if I were you.
3) The crusades, 9/11, the inquisition... Plenty of people have killed in the name of religion. Even in wars where religion was not the cause, it can still play a crucial role in how they were started, fought, and ended.
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humans will create problems with or with out religion its true however religion has caused some of the worst bloodshed
oneof333 3 weeks ago
No wars have been started by atheism.
Xx3Zzz 3 weeks ago
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Xx3Zzz 3 weeks ago
if religion didn't exist the dark ages would have been skipped to the renaissance giving 1000 years of scientific advances (although this guy proberly thinks science is the devils), there would be more equality since monarchy would have never been given a christdom status, all though those kiddy fidiling papist would not have been protected and juesus christ would not have been cruscified.
staddis 1 month ago
@staddis Religion is a necessary part of human history, and to say "if it didn't exist" is like saying "if pigs could fly" etc...
When you say "more equality" I take it you mean the establishment of a democratic state or republic? Such a thing would have been impossible in the middle ages. Without government in the form of a monarchy, Europe would have been utter chaos. It took the idea of a democratic republic thousands of years to develop into what we now have today: the United States
Coolz444 1 month ago
@Coolz444 which is now ruled by the lazy democrats and the retard republicans.
silverhawkroman 3 weeks ago
a world wth no religeon, will still mean there is war, you see retards like bin laden twist religeon as an EXSCUSE to war, peace be upon ALL who read this.
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@peacefularab exactly. if there is no religion, bin laden type terrorists would use more rational excuses to cause war, not just 'because god made me do it'
silverhawkroman 3 weeks ago
Conflict is intrinsic to human nature, there are various religions that are in conflict with one another...many of their conflicting viewpoints lead to violence and, yes...even war.
chichigord 1 month ago
Allahu akbar this video shut the mouth of atheists.
pamuk7 2 months ago
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@pamuk7 Conflict is intrinsic to human nature, there are various religions that are in conflict with one another...many of their conflicting viewpoints lead to violence and yes...even war.
chichigord 1 month ago
no mention of gaza?
markwrenwick 2 months ago
The cause isn't religious people, its CONSERVATIVE people, the most dangerous people on earth the ones who created ALL wars & are orthodox religious freaks... republicans, communists, muslims & hard heads.
jinchodemierda 2 months ago
@jinchodemierda does this go to say that arrogance causes most destruction, and hatred?
judikerr 1 month ago
@jinchodemierda The cause is that conflict is intrinsic to human nature...One impetus for violence is conflicting views on the nature and rule of god. Therefore, religion is an impetus for violence...especially for those who feel strongly about the veracity of their beliefs. The cause may not be religious people but the result is certainly people of religious conviction moved to violence.
chichigord 1 month ago
@vashcerom you suspect fundamentalists without even havinf read the book? and dont bash your friends' religions online. thats not what i would call a friend, just being honest. I have to sleep nice talking to you.
Kooshkff 3 months ago
Do you deny that Many wars were caused by religion? The real value of religion is in promoting social interaction and hence understanding between people. However religion claims to know things that they do not and this is the bone of contention Also, the presence of different religions in todays "shrinking" world gives rise to conflict, even different interpretation of the same religion (eg Sunni vs Shiite). The world would undoubtedly be better off without religion.
vashcerom 3 months ago
@vashcerom
You don't have doubts. But many people do. You would have to get rid of democracy to make a world with no religion.
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@Kooshkff not following your link between democracy and religion....can you explain.
vashcerom 3 months ago
@vashcerom
The majority of people are perfectly okay with the practice of religion. Atheists are a minority. For those who stick up for Darwin it's kind of comical actually. Didn't he suggest that those who adapt to their environment are the most likely to thrive?
Kooshkff 3 months ago
@Kooshkff I actually have no problem with the practice of religion in its normal moderate forms...it it he fundamentalists who scare me, with their intolerance. Atheists are in fact growing in number. Based on the science evolution is considered a fact. The scientific meaning of the word "theory" is different to that understood in everyday language, it relates to a hypothesis that has a large body of evidence on its side.
vashcerom 3 months ago
@vashcerom
I'm aware of scientific "theory." (although I don't recall using that word.) I have to point out to you that "fact" also means something else in science. Science is, however, not the topic. I meant that as a footnote.
What I'm worried about is what an atheist considers a "fundamentalist." If I go to Mosque twice on Friday do I qualify? If you go through each day with that thinking i don't see how you could sleep at night.
Kooshkff 3 months ago
@Kooshkff I consider a fundamentalist someone who takes all of his professed scripture literally and acts on these beliefs in spite of causing harm to others. (I just made up this defn but it seems to embody the main ideas). The freq of going to mosque prob has nothing to do with this idea. I sleep quite well ...I suppose because I value truth. Who knows, in time we may in fact find god, but I am sure it will bear very little relation to that proposed by organized religion.
vashcerom 3 months ago
@vashcerom
Have you ever considered that religion is not the root cause of terrorism ("fundamentalism")?
In times of war religion can become a political tool for soldiers. Just as in the United States education and money are the carrot they wave in front of their heads.
Have the Americans' Iraq veterans received any of their promises? Many are sleeping in the streets.
Likewise the terrorists have taken the bait. They have misunderstood the meaning of Jihad.
Kooshkff 3 months ago
@Kooshkff fundamentalism is not the only thing that can provoke terrorism, however I believe it definitely fuels such radical notions esp when some followers, as in any human population, possess inherent psychological weaknesses. Fundamentalists seem to brainwash their followers and this is dangerous. Yes religion is a tool....Education would be a positive force, not a subversive one. The US has indeed let down many of their vets but 2 wrongs do not make right. Pls Explain Jihad...I do not know
vashcerom 3 months ago
@vashcerom
Education is also a tool.
I went to go visit my family in America. I visited the book store and I decided to have a look in the high school history exams book. You know.. the ones that prepare you for exams.
Would you mind explaining to me why they felt it necessary to explain how women were mistreated in the middle east in 600 AD? Because to my knowledge the europeans were still lopping off the heads of anyone who the king didn't like (and worse).
Kooshkff 3 months ago
@Kooshkff I am making a distinction between education (provable truths) and simple propaganda which usually contains some untruths. Yes women were mistreated in 600AD middle east. Yes europeans were commiting atrocities, and still are (Bosnia). Maybe they put in the former fact because of they are also inciting hatred. I strongly suspect that the authors were religious fundamentalists...a very bad thing in any religion.
vashcerom 3 months ago
@vashcerom
I don't understand why so many of those who reject God because of the lack of proof are the same who will buy into the word on the street. Before 9-11 there was hardly a whisper about this. Now it's all you hear about. This intolerance is being spread to support more war. Critical thinking can only get you to that conclusion.I have never seen a muslim attack a German. But I've a turkish woman kicked in the breasts. and I've hear people screaming "keine muslime in deutschland!"
Kooshkff 3 months ago
@Kooshkff I am very skeptical that atheists in general really "buy into the word on the street". We are a skeptical bunch. I disagree that critical thinking is faulty....it encourages so much discovery, innovation and therefore is a cornerstone of human progress. You are absolutely right that intolerance will lead to more war. Most atheists are quits tolerant. I have muslim friends and family. Also hindu, christian, agnostic friends and family. No Mormons or scientologists though.
vashcerom 3 months ago
@vashcerom Wars would have been fought anyway. Human beings are instinctively violent and will use anything as an excuse to be so, wether it be religious or political issues. The only solution to this problem in the past was the use of religion as a means of taming the masses and keeping them under control, so in that sense religion and the advancement of society act in correlation. It was a useful tool for every Roman emperor and every European monarch.
Coolz444 1 month ago
A world without religion wouldnt be a safer place (who knows?), but a world without monotheism would definitively be, however!
Aepullo68 3 months ago
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@Aepullo68
"A world without religion wouldnt be a safer place (who knows?), but a world without monotheism would definitively be, however!"
So you think creating more gods would cause less disputes? You are blind in your madness.
Kooshkff 3 months ago
Anyone who says there will be peace without religion is an idiot. As long as there are people there will always be war, death, and other atrocities. My problem with religion is the person or people who uses religion for personal gain. I agree with facts, however I don't agree with fairy tales or people who believe in religion for salvation because of the unknown.
1d2i3a4b5l6o 3 months ago
what about all the deaths in the middle east between all of the different sects of islam? those have nothing to do with religion right?
dusty8512 3 months ago
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ExRayBEx 4 months ago
The IRA, PIRA, CIRA RIRA all kill people because of religion.
Afghanistan is because of religion. The Taliban are fighting for Allah. How can you not say that is because of religion?
Jiminiblobster 4 months ago
@SamiZaatari
i watched 30cec. of your video and don't need to watch more to be able to describe what your main fault in your point of view is.
only one sentence..wait...here it comes:
"to say, the world would be a saver place without religion does not mean, it would be a world without violence."
so as you can see. you misunderstood the message totaly but nonetheless as the more vid's i watch, made by you, the more i would like to discuss other arguments, but this one, you got totaly wrong.
rantanplan178 6 months ago
So long as humans are humans, it is impossible to stop war
EdikShepherd 6 months ago
All you have pointed out is that wars happen. Not all wars are religion based yes. But in many wars, religion plays apart, many wars are justified on religious grounds. "lets kill all of this religious group and then take what we want." Religion is a means to an end in many many wars! People will always fight over something but at least if we take out the imaginary man in the sky, thats one less thing to fight and kill are selfs over. Wonder what the body count is for religous suiside bombings
ourworld287 6 months ago
Religeon did play a part on 9/11, and alot of people have been affected as a result. The best thing that can happen is that Christians and Muslims realise that they have the same values and that they are worshiping the same God.
vylet271 8 months ago
Religion is not the cause of war. World Leaders are.
The1AndOnlySAGAKing 9 months ago
The cause is religion. All lies stem from religion. All righteousness and all power stem from religion.
As a humble earthling, I would love to see the gods fight it out. May the best God win, while we refuse to raise our flags!
Trust me, even though you quote a lot of dates for many wars, it's still about religion, every time.
blardosplats 9 months ago
@RiptosRage I agree :) i dont know why i wrote that comment, BUT the worst mix are religion+extreme nationalism :D
XSpaceStormX 9 months ago
In my opinion the world would be a better palce without athiests. That makes you angry doesnt it? Then think twice because we both think the same about each other.
1 @m @ Tr0LL @nD 1 L1v3 1n @ H0L3 L0L1!!11
Terrorist12341 10 months ago
The soviet union was athiest run and they killed around 700 MILLION of their own people to keep grasp of their land and to defeat the Germans. Also the union remained a athiest run union and they invaded many country's and commited huge war crimes, like in Afghanistan, they bombed random cities, burned down mosques killed imams ect, then the entire Afghanistan population establishes the Taliban and kicks the Athiest's ass then the Soviiet athiest's call the Taliban terrorists! HA!
Terrorist12341 10 months ago
99% of prisoners are religious and all wars ARE religious
XSpaceStormX 10 months ago
all religion, even Christianity, especially Christianity. The internet is the only thing that can save humanity from itself
MarktheSharkSheehan 1 year ago
Islam however is equal to terrorism....
Who said religion=war?
A World without religion would be better for our knowledge and free speech.
Mladiatheist 1 year ago
RELIGION = TERRORISM... REMEMBER 9/11?
zackinsanity2 1 year ago
its not just religion its politics that cause war too. imagine a war without religion and politics
teedonster 1 year ago
WWII was a continuation of WWI that didn't officially end until 1989. This was caused by the league of nations not stepping in and keeping the peace after WWI. This is why the UN does these actions in the middle east. To stop WWIV. Religion does not cause every single war. But without religion it would stop most of them. Then we would only have to worry about race and ignorance. Then again religion only exist in ignorance to begin with. YAWY was a man not a god. Read your history.
newsofthenerd 1 year ago
After the state of Israel was created there has been so many religions wars there including Iraqi scud missiles bombing Israel. The west actually asked Israel to stay out of the war and just take the bombing also because of fears of religious problems. Not all wars are over religion. But almost all wars are based on this. Almost ever single war he listed was directly religious. And he left out all the other religious wars conveniently.
newsofthenerd 1 year ago
WWII he says was not religions. That is why Japan believe that they had a living god and that there race and religion was superior and they needed to be the masters of all other Asian countries. This is why they killed 30 million Chinese civilians alone. The Germans believed that there race that there religion was superior and this is why they killed 6 million jews. Russia killed between 10 and 30 million civilians inside there own country for same reason.
newsofthenerd 1 year ago
Does this person have 1 single correct fact. I only watched half of this video and was shocked at the lack of knowledge.
First 1 fact that might be helpful for people who keep claiming the USA has anything to do with the middle east because of oil. These people must understand that the oil is sold to other countries not the usa. Gas in usa cost 2 to 3 USD dollars for a gallon about 4 liters. Gas in other countries cost about 3 to 4 times this much. That is because USA makes it's own gas.
newsofthenerd 1 year ago
Sami, I've never held the belief that no religion = peace. However, it's certainly true that a lot of problems in the world would go with religion. Different religious have enormous capacity to create a void of unnecessary prejudice between different religious groups. Also, there would no longer be the false justification of "God told me to" (something George W. Bush said about the invasion of Iraq).
Most of the problems of the world aren't caused by religion, but a lot are.
Gunderson002 1 year ago
One place that was the starting point against all those ANCIENT GREEK AND NORSE AND EGYPTIAN GODS. Three kings, whose legacy has turned this world into double standards and lies. Three streams, that flooded and corrupted minds.
Once all three are connected, then we might know the truth, why the separation even happened in the first place, like the "legend" tells.
Now its only better for all of us to not fight for something that has lies and secrets for these past 2000 years.
4life4win 1 year ago
And now... Its overall all the same... only one detail changed.... Atheists or more likely called the logical people, who know that religions is just a tool. Religion is a tool of destruction and suffering. No peace, TRUE PEACE can't be found, when Vatican, Rabis or your Islamic religious leaders spin one theme up and up again: "We are innocent, others are to blame!"
For all that is good sake, all those three religions have one birthplace, one beginning......
4life4win 1 year ago
Even your Islam wasn't untouched by those wars. Especially Second world war, because it gave greatly suffered and sacrificed Jews a HUGE leverage to spread their tale and get some kind of territory from those who were morally forced to do so.
So now we have Israel, who religiously believes to have all rights and no flaws. And they blame everyone else, because they moved to a territory, which was full of muslims. From that point on wars and violence were pretty much weekly, even daily.Continues..
4life4win 1 year ago
In ancient times, wars and fights were caused from need for food, materials, slaves.
After religion was made(it doesn't even matter which one first), wars and violence with racism and every other disgusting act was IN FACT JUSTIFIED BY RELIGION!
And that is done to this day! 1st and second world wars have actually somewhat deep connections to organized religion, like anti-semitism and anti-peace.
Even your Islam wasn't untouched. Continues on the next comment.......
4life4win 1 year ago
i think you will find that atheists dont think the world will be perfect without religion, just alot better!
noggless1234 1 year ago
@noggless1234 i say all us atheists move to a country of our own. i guarantee it would be the most scientifically advanced and peaceful nation in the world. hell, id bet we would be so advanced that in a few thousand years our nation after we left earth would be considered the "atlantis" of our time because we would be smart enough to destroy it when we left so none of these ignorant and violent religious people will have what we have
MrSoggyolive 9 months ago
the darfur war was spawned out of an islamic war on the christians in the south, who happened to be majority black, it now continues in an " ethnic war"
Fiorentina222 1 year ago
@Fiorentina222, there are very few Christians in Darfur, the Darfuri Rebel group called the JEM is actually an Islamist militia too, other Darfuri rebel groups like the SLM is a secular Darfuri Nationalist militia, the Darfur conflict is a separate conflict from the North vs South, the Darfur conflict is really about a typical military dictatorship of a gov't "stopping an insurgency"
Troy62486 1 year ago
@Troy62486 how did it start? it started with a war between the christians and muslims, now its gone to arab ethnic cleansing of blacks.
Fiorentina222 1 year ago
@Fiorentina222, those Sudanese "Arabs" are really Arabized Africans, the Darfur conflict is a spin off of the Libya-Chad conflict of the 80's that spilled across the border into Darfur, Arab nationalism is the cause of it, similar to like with the Arab and Kurdish conflict in Iraq
Troy62486 1 year ago
@Troy62486 they scream allah huakbar as they torch villages decapitate people and rape women though. they are justifiying their actions with their religon.
Fiorentina222 1 year ago
@Fiorentina222 Okay kids, gather up! It's story time! Raping women is not in Islamic belief. Nor killing people. They are extremists. A group of Christians, the crusaders, did just that a long time ago. Do Muslims and Jews blame the whole world for it (Christianity is all over the world)? Okay, story time's over. Think about our little talk Fiorentina222.
pokerpokerball 1 year ago
@pokerpokerball firstly i am NOT christian so stop assuming that, typical... do you really think im STUPID enough to have a religion? remember that the crusades were in resppnse to aggressive islamist expanison. violence is responded to by VIOLENCE. and religions is just one more excuse (the major one too) for VIOLENCE. think about that ¬¬
Fiorentina222 1 year ago
People will always fight. religion or no religion its not religion thats evil its people that are evil. people like to fight. just look at the entertainment idustry, what video games are popular?, ones where u go around planting trees and looking at flowers, or ones where u grab a gun and shoot every mother fucker you see. what do people want to play on xbox hippy tree hugger 3000 or COD, you all love it admit it you love fighting and war, you just dont like when you get shot or look bad.
ShaolinEast 1 year ago
Your an idiot for 2 reasons. First your Muslim and i will debate with you till the cows come home about that. Second a world without religion will HELP PREVENT WAR, Also you did not mention one war that was caused by religon. There is a term for this it's called bias.
MnE4life 1 year ago
@MnE4life Looking at dumb comments of dumb people like you I understand why there will always be a WAR in the world. The guy in the video couter-arguments what is being thrown at him by atheists who say thah the world without a religion will be a peaceful place. The only thing he does is bringing facts against the atheist claim. Whether religion can be a cause of a war is irrelevant here because even if you remove religion the war is there, that's the whole issue. Biased is you, dumbhead.
JackSparrowDepp 1 year ago
@JackSparrowDepp If you believe this than your just as bad and you are the reason why wars are started. Any atheist worth his salt will say if there is not religion about there will be less war. Muslims are war hungry, that's plain and simple. Muslims are picking fights all the time.
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elementswrath 1 year ago
religion no religion it makes no diffrence people have been trying to kill each other off since the beginning of mankind and never will stop trying
mrfoxy321 1 year ago
no wait wait wait, you begin with every FUCKING video with: YOU KNOW, well i do know one thing, your a stupid ass looking like an man that got born out of an ass and got stuck there for 5 hours, then had to POO you out and you would have an ass face for whole your life
you suck you muslim terrorist motherfuckaaaaaaa
you know
hert0gjan 1 year ago
@hert0gjan
You know, you are right... And i have a list to prove it.
frenktoet 1 year ago
Um the Holocaust was because of Hitler's animosity towards jews. Jews = religion.
Also, you make many fair points. But i will make a the point that a world without religion would be significantly BETTER then it is today. No stonings. No inequality towards women. No Terrorizing "infidels" No killing abortion doctors. No protesting hatred on the streets. No stalling scientific progress for religious freedom. I could go on...
TheFreeThinkingMan 1 year ago
@TheFreeThinkingMan Hitler didn't hate Jews for their beliefs, but for their prosperity. He blamed them for the poverty in the rest of Germany. So he didn't hate Jews as a religion, but as an ethnicity. Even atheist Jews like Freud needed to flee the country to be safe.
Marievska 1 year ago
I don't think I have ever heard an atheist make the claim "no religion = no violence". I've heard the world would be better because all the death and suffering caused by religion would be gone. How was world war 2 not about religion? The Vatican was backing a religious nut who was bent on killing everyone who was not Aryan in the name of God.
systematic101 1 year ago
@systematic101
Then please enlightened us which religion in the world orders killing everyone who is not Aryan in the name of God? I will help you: if a religion can be used by people as a tool to kill other people while it doesn't order to kill people, then it's not religion's fault (it doesn't have to do anything to with religion). Therefore even if you get rid of a religion people will use use other tools to kill each other. What's the fault of a pen if you take it kill someone with it?
JackSparrowDepp 1 year ago
Let's turn it around: has religion brought love and peace? If yes: where? If not: why not?
StopSpamming1 1 year ago
A lot needs to be done to eliminate war. Eliminating religion would be a small but positive start.
greenaissance 1 year ago
we cant condemn voilence as muslims, when islam allows voilence it is more in terms of a policeman taking to arms and weapons so that the crazy stay at bay, and though killing of innocent by the so called muslim terroist is condemned, voilence is an integral part of todays society to keep crime at bay :-)
peace salam
MrRuggedboy27 1 year ago
I stopped watching as soon as you claimed the war in Iraq was for oil. Gas prices are higher than ever today, and most oil rigs in Iraq are not even owned by the USA but by other nations, much the same with Afghanistan. The US has brought it's economy to the brink of collapse by pouring money into the infrastructure of Iraq, and so far has not received any compensation for that and the lives lost other than strategically valuable military bases, which are being closed rapidly today.
Try again.
SemperEAS7 1 year ago
"ww 2 the couse wus not religion.." incase u didnt know jews kiling jesus was or used to be..i duno if it is enylonger a part of the catholic dogma..hitler was catholic and hes victims were jews..that was one of the resons..he had more ofc.
taymaz1 1 year ago
its not about religion..religions is like a mask they use to hide behind..what its realy
about is power.
taymaz1 1 year ago
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808SovRyn 1 year ago
@808SovRyn religious politicians make war
robot014 1 year ago
you know?
FockerTheLopper 1 year ago
nationalism is a form of religious behavior in which God is replaced by or combined with The Country
h0stI13 1 year ago
@h0stI13
There is no Nationalism in Islam
MrPathanStyle 1 year ago
You think listing a bunch of non religion related conflicts totally negates all the violence that has been done in the name of religion? We've never claimed that there wouldn't be anymore violence without religion, but it would certainly be a start.
esh325 1 year ago
1)becouse religious people are stupid ...
2)religious people referring to facts??
3)all false...and bullshit and crap put together......and he forgets to mention the inquisition ...alredy 1000 yrs......the wars he mentioned are an indirect result of the inquisition.
4)indeed greedy and powerhunger over people...playing the masses....like religion does....becouse religion thrives on war....suffering brings people back to poverty and the church.
robot014 1 year ago
Why are you wasting time trying to prove to everyone that god exist? if you believe that he exist that's fine that's all that matters it's your opinion your entitled to it but personally I don't believe in him.
akamarutiger 1 year ago
you know it´s gonna end in one way. there is going to be someone who´s been abused by members of islam and revenges. the person creates group of other abused and they destroy mekka´s stone, causing third world war. religions are deeply hated afterwards and forgotten. that´s the moment when people realize that it´s not the god who is supposed to make their lives perfect, it´s their own duty. in future there are anyways only two groups of people left, those who flew and those who dived underwater.
XXLink 1 year ago
Wrong, Iraq-Iran war. America was helping both sides to keep peace with both countries. Other than that you did a good job.
iHelptheNeeded 1 year ago
Why are muslims always trying to fool people into trying to make believe that islam is "peace". Please. All you have to do is read many of the hadiths to see how the witnesses tell how Muhammed killed, plundered, distributed the spoils of his victimes, people who were in peace and Muhammed attacked. Read the hadiths. Sura 8 is called "the booty of war", "very peaceful". Muhammed was a warrior, not a man of peace
DictaduraNo123 1 year ago
Why are muslims always making propaganda? If islam is so "scientific" why is it that islamic countries are so poor, so backward? Why is it that islamic countries never participated in any modern scientific, technological discovery? Islamic countries never won a Nobel Prize of science, nothing. Thanks to western and asian countries islamic countries have electricity, TV, computers, cars, etc. Islamic countries are poor, backward and reduced to religious ignorance
DictaduraNo123 1 year ago
@DictaduraNo123 you're ignoring the inventions and innovations that Muslims came up with while Europe was in the dark ages
AHATNAMSO 1 year ago
War sucks. Why are all these people fighting? This fighting needs to stop. Whether it is on the battle field or over the internet. It needs to stop. Fighting will not benefit anyone. All it does is create more hate in our hearts for eachother. Is this what you desire? I don't hate other religions and I want us all to get along. But the ignorant actions of others are prevent this from happening. The ignorant people don't realize how much the actions effect others.
daedaehott 1 year ago
Out of all the wars that have been recorded in the history books, religion only summed up less than 7% of all wars. In fact, Marxism has killed more people than every religious kill combined.
TheVodkaHaze 2 years ago
you're just concentrating on wars, wasn't seperation of india pakistan killed over 15 million people. And every 5 years hindu muslims starts killing each other for sake of their religion. And how about suni shia drilling holes in each other head for thousands of years. Humans are very tribal in nature and religion just make that cause much much worst.
psin1990 2 years ago
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There is nothing in the Quran which allows us to kill innocent people. Prophet Mohammed PBUH's last speech to his soldiers before going to war against Meccans was to:
- Not to kill innocent people.
- Not to kill children.
- Not to kill women.
- Not to kill soldier without weapon.
- Not to kill enemy who runs into someone home for refuge.
- Not to harm any tree which gives fruit
11101ahmed 2 years ago
If you think about it religoin starts wars but also it creates order aswell the 10 commandments for one
And people turn to God In bad times Dso with out them it would bring the world to chaos
SuperNathanJohn 2 years ago
When I see the way you lie, telling people that islam is a religion of peace, telling people that "the quran only teaches violence to defend onself", etc..I realize that religion is sthing dangerous. Islam is a religion of hatred, violence. Muhammed was a warrior who taught the expansion of islam through aggression. The hadiths are full of tales of his crimes, his lack of morality. Just read some violent texts in the quran: 2:216, 2:191, 4:95, 8:12, 9:05, 9:29, 9:39, 9:123
DictaduraNo123 2 years ago
@DictaduraNo123 hahah your still here and boasting about these verses which I refuted.
DrXoz 1 year ago
doubledyll 2 years ago
you might be correct about how religion may have not been the motive. But I believe america made it one or the muslim world who knows . we know so little about 911 we have no idea what went down it could of been fixed or terrorists could have planned it .either way it angered the muslims when america attacked. and know we havea war based on ideologies. even if it wasnt the motive it's the outcome.atheism strives for one thing a secular gov't and science which is why you can post such a bs video
88atrain 2 years ago
MUSLIMS=JEWS IN NAZI GERMANY. America uses them to take away american rights. Just mention 9/11 and you can eliminate the constitution.
cagedchild 1 year ago
the majority of people that supported bush and the Neocons did so for religious reasons. Although religion isnt necessarily the direct cause of these wars, it certainly acts as the fuel.
mintendac 2 years ago
The thing is though, if you get a rid of religion, something will take its place, like race, nationality, etc. Disposing religion would be pointless. It is something in human nature that makes us do these things.
TheVodkaHaze 2 years ago 18
@TheVodkaHaze AMEN! and if you're not religious, TRUE!!
ThEuNkNoWn9999999 7 months ago
@TheVodkaHaze No, if you get rid of religion, you get rid of a major cause of conflict - race, nationality, desire for more cows, etc. are all causes of conflict already. Getting rid of one does not mean that the rest will expand to cover the gap.
That's like saying if we solve world hunger, disease will kill more people to take its place.
phocjame 4 months ago
Isreal/Palestine causing the biggest divide within the world since WW2
US/Afghanistan, came off he back of the US vs religions fundamentalists
Russia/checnya caused backed by religion fundamentalists keen to spread sharia law.
Bosnia/Yugoslavian war based on both ethnic and religious divide.
Current US/Iraq war,maybe not caused but fuelled in part by shia/sunni divide. Regarding the ones you stated, many of them although started for reasons of independence, now imploy religion as cause,
lynus111 2 years ago
As you can see muhammad waged wars agains non muslims and the koran commanded muslims to wage wars.
what do you say about that?
TomVu99 2 years ago
@TomVu99 Please check out Sami's video on Jihad which is now his featured video. That video will answer your questions. I hope that helps.
SeventhHeaven5655 2 years ago
@TomVu99 You are uneducated about Islam. Please do not say ignorant things that you heard from another ignorant person. There have always been wars as far back as history goes. Islam did not invent war. Islam provides practical guidelines for every area of living, including times of warfare. You seem unaware that Muhammad lived in persecution by his own people just as Jesus and the other Prophets of God.
SeventhHeaven5655 2 years ago
@SevethHeaven I heard that Muhammad Hijacked Mecca with 10,000 army and forced everyone to convert to islam. That's why today Saudi arabia is 100% Muslim and they cannot leave their islamic religion or die under shariah law.
AM I wrong?
TomVu99 2 years ago
TomVu99 Muhammad was born in Mecca and orphaned by age 6. When he received the prophecy he was 40. He struggled with the idol worshipping Meccans because of his Message of One God. He and his followers were persecuted heavily. Some who converted to his Message left Mecca to get to Medina to be safe. Good word about the Prophet spread among the Medina tribes, and he finally made it safely to Medina having to hide, strategically going there in a roundabout way--the Meccans were after his blood.
SeventhHeaven5655 2 years ago
Muhammad was welcomed by the Medina tribes and it was the first place to accept him. Muhammad didn't come to conquer, he came for safety and to give his Message. The Medinans loved the Prophet; he became their chief arbitrator, source of guidance, and later military commander when the Meccans began their attacks on Medina. Muhammad happened to be the greatest military commander to exist, and also the greatest of diplomats. After 10 years of warring, the Meccans accepted a treaty by Muhammad.
SeventhHeaven5655 2 years ago
SevethHeaven, I aso heard that muhammad was rejected by the meccans because the meccans do not want want islam and muhammad left mecca to medina and recruited 10,000 army just to take over mecca. and once he did, he went to the kaaba and threw out all the statues out and replced it with a meteorite and forced the people to worship it. Muhammad expelled the jews, christians, zoroastrians and pagans out of saudi arabia. There is no freedom of religion in islam.
TomVu99 2 years ago
TomVu99, are you trying to make me laugh? I don't mean to be rude, I apologize. Did you not read my very short biography of Muhammad pbuh that I wrote here especially in reply to your comment and question? Islam did not fall out of the sky and take over--it was like a grass roots movement that gained acceptance and sincere followers with time. He never recruited an army, the early believers were defending Medina and way of life. They never worshipped a meteorite, lol, where did you hear this?
SeventhHeaven5655 2 years ago
TomVu99, If you are sincerely interested in the life of Muhammad and the spread of Islam, please google CAIR, the Council of American Islamic Relations. They have an excellent and unbiased biography of the Prophet, pbuh, which describes pre-Islamic times in Arabia, the life of the Prophet, and the growth of Islam. Many interesting battle stories too. I think they still give out free copies of this book called "Muhammad".
SeventhHeaven5655 2 years ago
@SevethHeaven. I have read Muhammad's bio and he does not believe in freedom of religion, women are worth less than half of men, apostates and adultrers are to be killed, jews are apes and pigs, and on and on. I just dont see the truth in islam, It's not there. Show me.
TomVu99 2 years ago
TomVu99 As I said before you did not get your info from a reliable and truthful source. There is no way to argue a disbeliever to accept faith. The Quran states, you will not worship that which I worship, and I will not worship that which you worship.
You say you don't see truth in Islam. You have not looked for it. You are looking only for things which uphold your disbelief.
SeventhHeaven5655 2 years ago
@TomVu99 you know, if you actually did more studying and read a real bio about the prophet, then you wouldn't sound so stupid, Muhammed (SWT) doesn't belive in freedom of religion? what sort of bullshit bio did you read? Muhammed actually allowed the pagan people to live in safety, without fear of getting attacked and killed, just as long as they were good citizens and paid their taxes. fornicators are like animals, running around and and " making love" with 10 other people
AHATNAMSO 1 year ago
@AHATNAMSO humans dont have the right to judge other people just because they made love with 10 other people. it;s NONE of your business.
TomVu99 1 year ago
@TomVu99 You say '' I have read Muhammad's bio'' ? Really ? WOW, so after you read it this is what you have concluded? That is amazing, it really is. Mohammed IS an amazing example of freedom !
Letmethink2007 1 year ago
@Letmethink2007 Mohammed sharia law is freedom?
LoL you dont even have freedom of religion. and if you leave islam you are to be killed. Look at saudi arabia, libya, somalia, afghanistan, iran and other coutries like it. they still execute apostates!
TomVu99 1 year ago
@TomVu99 How do you speak for me? I ''don't have freedom of religion?'' are you kidding me? Wow, I'm not even going to go further to explain, it's like a broken record.
Letmethink2007 1 year ago
@Letmethink2007 Let me ask you one thing.
Under sharia law, what is the punishment for leaving islam?
Please answer according to what muhammad said or you will be guilty of fitna!
TomVu99 1 year ago
For a MUSLIM to say that religion doesn't cause wars is LUDICROUS! How about the war America continues to fight right now? Those fools didn't fly airplanes into the twin towers because of their primitive religion?
vivalaleta 2 years ago
@vivalaleta , listen to Sami's video on jihad. He does not condone the terrorist acts as part of Islam. These were a few rogue people who were puppets. The so-called war against so-called terrorism has turned into a war on Muslims. Ironically the oil comes from these regions at war, it is a war for oil, under the false flag of war on terrorism.
SeventhHeaven5655 2 years ago
I just read the qu'ran and it is chock full of vicious viloence. It's rules are to KILL everyone who will not give in to Islam. I have studied the Christian bible and thought that IT was so immoral. Christians just like to over look that side of their God but Muslims still mainly believe in that part of their wicked God. How many sorts of threats against my person have I had on YouTube from Muslims? They do themselves no service.
vivalaleta 2 years ago
@vivalaleta I can't help you with your prooblem of not seeing the beauty of the Quran which is so evident. You are reading into it your own prejudice. The Quran says: "Verily, those who disbelieve, it is the same with them whether you (O Muhammad saws) warn them or do not warn them, they will not believe."
With all due respect, I think your study skills are lacking, and you have a chip on your shoulder about Islam and Muslims. Why is that?
SeventhHeaven5655 2 years ago
@vivalaleta I just looked at your channel and comments, so I understand why you have gotten threats (if that is even true). You obviously like to provoke others, especially people of faith. If you don't attack religious people, chances are you will not receive problems. I guess you like feeling persecuted.
SeventhHeaven5655 2 years ago
Oh, so I point out that Islam's God said to kill, kill, kill and Mohammed was a violent sex addict and that makes it okay that Muslims tell me they will rape me in front of my children and then kill me? Go ahead and stick to your nasty religion - you fit right in.
vivalaleta 2 years ago
@vivalaleta , I'm sorry you are struggling so much with God, I hope you reach a level of personal relationship with God so that you do not spew hatred on people who have done you no harm. A truly religious person, no matter what religion, is the one who wishes and prays for the good welfare of others. You have a very sick and perverted idea of Islam. Please stop feeding your mind with fuel for hatred. Do you personally know any Muslims or had a Muslim friend?
SeventhHeaven5655 2 years ago
Have you even read your own holy book? Sure there are mandates to take care of orphans, etc. but it's loaded with cruel intentions toward nonbelievers - in THIS life. I'm sorry that you are so willfully deluded and happily filling up your life with baloney - but that's YOUR decision though it's my right to tell you the evidence of it's misanthropic meaness.
vivalaleta 2 years ago
@vivalaleta The question is, have YOU even read my holy Book. It seems not. Why don't you give a verse which you find horrific and I will try to help you put it in proper context. So far your argument is not substantiated by anything except your own bias. I would like to know where you got your info @ Islam from. If it is the Quran, then please give the source of your antipathy. I am happy to help God willing.
SeventhHeaven5655 2 years ago
@vivalaleta During pre-Islamic times, the Arabian peninsula was made up of caravan raiders and slave traders and ignorant unlettered people who buried girl babies alive and lived by their raw instincts. The advent of Muhammad's (pbuh) message in the Quran brought mercy to the downtrodden people, the orphans, the widows, and those captured in war. Raiding, pillaging, intoxication and raping were commonplace before Muhammad (pbuh) made his testimony from God for a good society.
SeventhHeaven5655 2 years ago
So you are talking about moral evolution? Then it's high time to for us humans to start a better sense of morality - i.e. no killing infidels - Gods are primitive imaginations because they had no idea about why disasters, etc. happened. We know better now and it's time to give up all this religious baloney.
vivalaleta 2 years ago
vivalaleta, Moral evolution of our species is a false concept. If you look around you at the horrors that are caused by human beings in the world, including those of secular people (as mentioned in Sami's video) the human conscience has not evolved at all. Humans are a species prone to both good and bad attributes, and the best each one of us can do is to personally struggle against the bad things. God is not primitive in the sense you describe. Most of the modern world believes in God.
SeventhHeaven5655 2 years ago
For all those arguing that war and conflict is not the fault of religion, but is because of its misuse by political leaders. A quote from the Roman philosopher and statesman, Seneca. As true today as it was 2000 years ago:
"Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by rulers as useful"
6Untitled9 2 years ago
Getting rid of religion is as likely to happen as me growing wings, me intestines get located to my feet and migrating to the south for the winter. It's LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE!!!
TheVodkaHaze 2 years ago
actually, just mentioning the two world wars would suffice. how about the crusades? wasnt it also started because of lies not religion? Whatever his name was who started the crusades, just used religion to brainwash people into thinking that "god wants you to fight". is there any war that was based purely on religion?
tharwpoop 2 years ago
the crusades were actually a lie to the public by the catholic church to gain the strategic placement of jerusalem and told catholics they would be fighting for christ
pastorcaleb1 2 years ago
getting rid of religion will not get rid of human's ability to murder one another, and it will not somehow "advance" society to a new state of enlightenment. What it will do is get rid of the only books in the world that say NOT to kill each other.
CorpusChristi83 2 years ago
Actually, no religion has ever really been responsible for any war. It has always been political organization exploiting religion to get their citizens to "fight for God's war"
watch?v=eO3E-Q6lQfQ
CorpusChristi83 2 years ago
The big question is does being religious predispose people to being violent? I would say yes. Religion is unfortunately headstrong in regards to a, "My god is right! You don't believe in my god and you are wrong!" worldview
Get your head outta your ass and stop making sweeping generalizations. When you look at history you can see that before industrial revolution the main factor has been religious disputes still present today. And power hungry people know how to use religion as citizen control.
ChunkyAndMoist 2 years ago
You're missing the point when you try and tout out numbers and say, "Look! These are wars actually NOT about religion!" When to some degree many of them were. In Hitler and Stalin's regime there may not have been a unifying religion but it was a form of STATE worship.
Hitler was catholic and Japan thought their emperor was somewhat of a God so that can tie into some of their motives. No reasonable person would say no religion = no disputes EVER. As long as theres humans there'll be conflict.
ChunkyAndMoist 2 years ago
As an atheist, I'm not naive to think a 100% secular world would be conflict free.
A world 100% united under the same religion wouldn't be peaceful as people would be re-interpreting religious texts. Also, a common theocracy would not rule out territorial disputes and resource-based conflicts.
A 100% secular world also wouldn't rule out territorial disputes and resource-based wars, but there would be no religious conflicts of any kind as there would be no religion.
DaveTheAtheist 2 years ago
The Vietnam and Korean Wars were started because US government viewed communism as a threat to capitalist and christian values. Due to the strident rants of one Senator Joseph McCarthy, these wars were all about christianity vs. communism.
The Muslims have been fighting the Hindus in India for many years, not openly but they've not exactly been peaceful.
The Crusades, Reconquista, conquest and annihilation of Central America was due to religious fervour.
Then militant muslims did 9/11.
DaveTheAtheist 2 years ago
World War 2 was started by Hitler's aggresive foreign policy. He honestly believed God had sent him to establish a third German Empire lasting 1000 years. He was born in a catholic school, he was brought up a catholic.
He persecuted the Jews and scapegoated them as they were in charge of Germany's WW1 economy and he had hated them prior to that because they had Jesus killed. The Japanese expansion in Asia and the Pacific was motivated by Shintoism, a religion.
(contd...)
DaveTheAtheist 2 years ago
And yet religion has killed more people than all the wars you just listed combined.
Nobody is saying that war would completely disappear if religion did. You're dismissing the idea because you've misunderstood the argument, you idiot!
JMSofSweden 2 years ago
....? when did this happen? What religion has killed more people than all the wars combined? or wait a minute......did you just pull that out of your ass??? I think sooo... :)
CorpusChristi83 2 years ago
CorpusChrist83,
It's a well known fact that religion is the greatest source of conflict in the history of humanity. You don't need to do a lot of research to figure that out.
"If religion didn't exist, good people would do good things, and evil people would do evil things. But for good people to do evil things, it takes religion." - Steven Weinberg
JMSofSweden 2 years ago
you're just assuming that, you have no statistics or evidence to back up your claim. The vatican started the crusades, not RELIGION, the VATICAN started the inquisition, not RELIGION, fear and ignorance cause the witch trials, NOT RELIGION. You are just saying, "no no no, trust me, religion is to blame, and to prove it, I've got a quote from a scientist, who MUST know, he IS a scientist!" The problem isnt religion, it's people who are blindly repeating what they heard, "religion is bad."
CorpusChristi83 2 years ago
Actually, fear and ignorance is another thing that religion causes.
Look, if someone tells people that they have to kill all jews or muslims in the name of god, it doesn't really matter what motives this person has. It was religion that brainwashed the people to believe everything this person says.
Oh, and if you want evidence that "religion is bad", as you so bluntly put it, then just open a historybook. Or even a newspaper.
Blind faith is a dangerous thing.
JMSofSweden 2 years ago
If you are TRULY following the faith of the three Abrahamic religions, you're not supposed to be following what leaders say "god wants you to do," thats false. What ended the crusades? LITERACY, because people read the bible for THEMSELVES and saw, "wow, God says NOT to kill one another." If you're readnig religion is bad, it's cause it was written by fools who think if you ban a belief, people wont be evil or murderous. I dont expect you to get it, cause scandinavians have ALWAYS been pagan.
CorpusChristi83 2 years ago
God says "thou shalt not kill, god says "those who work on the sabbath should be put to death", god says "A man who lies with another man should be put ot death, god says "those who curse their mother and father should be put to death".
You're right, the bible is very clearly against paople killing one another...
And I never said that people would stop killing if religion was banned. Try to actually understand what I'm saying.
Oh, and I will ignore your very stupid comment on scandinavians.
JMSofSweden 2 years ago 2