I have the "original" version of that guitar (1985 model) and yeah, with a Kahler or even a Floyd, you need a locking nut. Mine is surprisingly light compared to other Explorers and definately doesn't have the tuning problems you were having... It's a shame that some 'quality control' and design issues slip by on an otherwise great guitar.
That's Something I Don't Get!!! If Gibson Make So Called "Great Guitars", Then Why Would They Put Kahler Tremolos On Their Guitars Without A Locking Nut??? Obviously They Have No Idea What They're Doing!!! XD
Kahler Tremolo's are cool, but Floyd Rose Originals (Double-Locking; once at the nut & once at the Saddles) Float like 3 steps, so u can pull the Whammy-Bar UP & it goes higher pitch, but u gotta do it GENTLY or it'll break a string, & U CAN NEVER pull it up either while bending a string or pulling the whammy bar up then bending the string(s)...or strings will break REALLY EASY; that's what happens to Jack Butler (Steve Vai) at the end of the Head Cutting Guitar Duel from the movie Crossroads...
having no locking nut is what attracted me to the Shred-X. I have a strat with a floyd Rose, maybe I'm too aggressive with it, but I'm always tuning it. When I've bottomed out the micro turners, out comes the allen wrench. I hate that.
@vM3TALLICAx Get it and google Sta-Tuned Locking Nut. You don't need to cut into the guitar or anything it just fixes around the strings behind the nut :) It is a great guitar...I have one ;P Imo ESP Explorers sound no where near as good as Gibson
man Gibson really has a thumb up their ass lately don't they? i mean seriously... no locking nut? how much does a locking nut raise the price by? 20 bucks? COME ON. ITS GIBSON. if you want a Gibson you're supposed to be prepared to spend shitloads of money, so why does Gibson skimp out to save money when they're gonna overprice it anyway? and they've been in the business for 50 years... why can't they make a neck that can have a proper shredding action?
@ravenshield56 Epiphone has a series called the Prophecy series that includes an older model of the Explorer body known as the Futura. It's similar but it has less fret-access because for some retarded reason, they put a neck heel on it which just blocks off the last 2 frets because you can't reach em.
but it has a Floyd Rose tremolo and an EMG 81/85 set. only problem is, the Floyd Rose is not in a recessed cavity, so you can't really pull up that well, and the Futura body limits fret access.
@ravenshield56 it's not discontinued, i know that. it should be available online for a lot of stores, including Guitar Center. if you're lucky you should be able to find it at a local Guitar Center.
btw, if i were you, i think i'd rather consider ESP's option, the EX-401DX. it has a Floyd Rose with a proper recessed cavity, the real Explorer body (with sharper edges to avoid a copyright violation) and has EMG 81/60 pickups instead of the 81/85.
quick question, what was your reverb setting/etc for your solo section at 1:15? i like the sound but i cant get it like that, i know you have some delay in there but how much?
@murmelswe Gibson is evidently cutting corners in terms of productions, and as demonstrated here in all the wrong places. Kahlers per se are great. It's beyond me why Gibson can't be bothered to spend extra $ 20 - 40 to buy and install an afternut stringlock and even out the action, so there's no buzz. Considering the RRP on that thing, that is the least one can expect from a Gibson at no extra cost to the actual price tag, really.
@arehormeus Yep, Kahler make locking nuts, always have, they are $ 10 - 12 - unlike Floyd Nuts they are not a nut replacement, but rather an "after the nut - lock" based locking nut, which means that it can be fitted on ANY guitar without doing any structural damage to the fretboard/neck. They've got two types of nuts - either the kind you would see on old Jackson/Charvels (a lá Model 6 (aka Jackson Soloist)), except with hex screws instead of straight edge, or a Finger-Tite (aka Bill Edwards).
@davhil2 Well, they recently started making a Gibson Les Paul "Axcess" with a deeper cutaway, and a full floyd rose, completee with a locking nut. I'm happy for that.
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they sucked badly you're way better off with jackson kelly or esp ex or a agile ghost plus there like 550 bucks with emgs and a floyd rose plus there 25.5 scale so its definitely better than a explorer
@nothinghappens1 ya this think can stay in tune worth of shit on E standard tuning. my friend owns one. but tuned down to like drop c or C standard around that area it stays in tune just fine , especialy with good locking tuners
@nothinghappens1 Why is it the most poorly constructed guitar? Im thinking of getting one. If you could tell me then I would probably change my mind. Im not being sarcastic. As in what are the problems that you think should be addressed. Thanks man.
@joshua9312 Well man, is obvious that a major flaw is that this guitar does not have nut locking, and you know that a guitar with kahler or floyd rose must have locking nut. Another thing is that gibson started, for some reason, to be sloppy on their quality control and you can see cracks and poor finish on their guitars. But, if you want a cool explorer you should stick with the classic explorer, and if you want a modern explorer you should try the vampire blood moon explorer. Cheers man!!!
@nothinghappens1 Thanks man! Yea, that IS true about the guitar not having a locking nut. Thats pretty stupid of them hahha. And it its true about their quality control. I have a Gibson SG GT and the quality is pretty bad. I paid 4k for that and its not what I expected to get from. Anyway, what guitar would you suggest that has a floyd rose/ kahler for metal? Thanks.
@joshua9312 Well man, i truly recommend ibanez guitars, specially with zero resistance tremolo (which allows you to keep playing even after you broke the E, B or G high strings); after that, i´m very impressed with DEAN guitars thta sports an original floyd rose. I can tell you that my top 3 of guitar makers are:
1- ibanez 2-Dean 3- LTD (esp) . Try to avoid EMG pickups, they sound awful; but if you want active pups, seymour duncan blackouts or any active duncans. Cheers man and keep it metal!
hey man ever think of getting a Line 6 pod, vypyrs are great amps from what i heard but say an X3 or XT Pod guitar processor and you can take over the world.
you really should get a new amp man, like roland cube or peavy vyper, your such a good player, but to be honest you could get a much better tone from one of those two.
anyways, the guitar LOOKS cool, and sounds pretty cool, but i'd never buy a guitar with a kahler or floyd without a locking nut.
ya but then your strings snap easier and anyways, i think that thicker strings give a meatier crunchier tone good point though and thnx for that idea.
see what i do is then i bought eerny ball skinny bottem heavy tops so when i play heavy stufff on top its super heavy and thick and when i solo on bottem the strings are skinny bendable and comfy so......try that out ?
I would love to see you review a Musicman Petrucci model to see what you think. It has a great tremolo without a locking nut and stays in tune wonderfully. I think you would like it.
I think gibson simply dont care about they're heavy metal guitars focusing on les pauls and SG models? because after all thats where they make 90% of there cash..
Given the fact that an expensive guitar shouldn't require a lot of work to correct problems like these, how difficult do you think it'd be to correct the problems? Say if you got a really good deal on one through an Ebay auction or the like? A Kahler locking nut wouldn't be hard to install, but the neck issue has me worried. Was the buzzing due to the neck's shape, or do the frets need work?
It must be a recent decline in quality control at the factory or something... I have two Gibsons, both 1970s era RD Artists (one bass, one guitar), and both are fantastic.
lol you're videos are so informative. I'm just gonna stay away from Gibson guitars now. lol. But i freakin love the x-plorer shape, so im just wondering if the ESP EX or FX are any good.
And what are your comments on Gibson's shody quality control? You have the first comment, you must have SOME insight right? Or is the only thing you can do is count to 1?
Well I was going to put this in but something got over me. Their quality control is terrible, because they didnt put a locking nut on a guitar with a Floyd Rose, plus the fact that you can see on other models that there are paint chips on the body, etc
Classic problem with Gibson trying to be innovative
Good idea, horrible execution
xRAKDOZx 3 days ago
imagine this guitar with an edge 3 tremolo....
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I have the "original" version of that guitar (1985 model) and yeah, with a Kahler or even a Floyd, you need a locking nut. Mine is surprisingly light compared to other Explorers and definately doesn't have the tuning problems you were having... It's a shame that some 'quality control' and design issues slip by on an otherwise great guitar.
sgmguitars 4 months ago
That's Something I Don't Get!!! If Gibson Make So Called "Great Guitars", Then Why Would They Put Kahler Tremolos On Their Guitars Without A Locking Nut??? Obviously They Have No Idea What They're Doing!!! XD
DylanBStringer91 9 months ago
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You can't judge a guitar by what's written on the headstock =)
EmperorMorbid 7 months ago
2:18 it sounds like "YOU BITCH! WHY DON'T YOU CUM???"
TractorTheBassist 10 months ago
Awesome Post , Fabulous sound & Great playing ty.
JACKSONAXER 10 months ago
Kahler Tremolo's are cool, but Floyd Rose Originals (Double-Locking; once at the nut & once at the Saddles) Float like 3 steps, so u can pull the Whammy-Bar UP & it goes higher pitch, but u gotta do it GENTLY or it'll break a string, & U CAN NEVER pull it up either while bending a string or pulling the whammy bar up then bending the string(s)...or strings will break REALLY EASY; that's what happens to Jack Butler (Steve Vai) at the end of the Head Cutting Guitar Duel from the movie Crossroads...
thedeem0N 10 months ago
i have this guitar and its totally fine without a locking nut
PuffSmelly 11 months ago
having no locking nut is what attracted me to the Shred-X. I have a strat with a floyd Rose, maybe I'm too aggressive with it, but I'm always tuning it. When I've bottomed out the micro turners, out comes the allen wrench. I hate that.
anewageman 11 months ago
Black Explorer + EMGs + TOM Bridge = Legend!!
Black Explorer + EMGs + Khaler Bridge - Locking Nut = Pile Of Shit
The only guitars that Gibson does great are the Les Pauls.
Wanna buy an Explorer? Go for ESP
Wanna buy a Flying V? Go for Jackson
EldubeG25 1 year ago
@EldubeG25 why dont you come back when you actually know what you are talkinng about.
thatoneguy99100 1 year ago
why wouldnt you just fucking put locking tunes dumbass
martyfischetti 1 year ago
I was looking at one of these and it looks like you can just can take the Kahler off and put a Tone Pros on it.
Gonboo 1 year ago
i was thinking of getting the shred x should i?
vM3TALLICAx 1 year ago
@vM3TALLICAx wouldn't recommend it. The kahler has no lock nut and the locking tuners are terrible. Get ESP, cheaper and better.
sartaajhussain 1 year ago
@vM3TALLICAx Get it and google Sta-Tuned Locking Nut. You don't need to cut into the guitar or anything it just fixes around the strings behind the nut :) It is a great guitar...I have one ;P Imo ESP Explorers sound no where near as good as Gibson
DeathMagneticX3 1 year ago
@vM3TALLICAx i would recommend it. i have one and love it despite its imperfections
thatoneguy99100 1 year ago
man Gibson really has a thumb up their ass lately don't they? i mean seriously... no locking nut? how much does a locking nut raise the price by? 20 bucks? COME ON. ITS GIBSON. if you want a Gibson you're supposed to be prepared to spend shitloads of money, so why does Gibson skimp out to save money when they're gonna overprice it anyway? and they've been in the business for 50 years... why can't they make a neck that can have a proper shredding action?
AirgunAddict256 1 year ago
No clean ?
figger48 1 year ago
wtf no lockin gnut?? wat were they thinkinggg, and is there an epiphone alternitive to this/ i want an explorer with a trem
ravenshield56 1 year ago
@ravenshield56 Epiphone has a series called the Prophecy series that includes an older model of the Explorer body known as the Futura. It's similar but it has less fret-access because for some retarded reason, they put a neck heel on it which just blocks off the last 2 frets because you can't reach em.
but it has a Floyd Rose tremolo and an EMG 81/85 set. only problem is, the Floyd Rose is not in a recessed cavity, so you can't really pull up that well, and the Futura body limits fret access.
AirgunAddict256 1 year ago
@AirgunAddict256 thanks alot that was helpful :) I will try it out, is it available in shop or is it discontinued?
ravenshield56 1 year ago
@ravenshield56 it's not discontinued, i know that. it should be available online for a lot of stores, including Guitar Center. if you're lucky you should be able to find it at a local Guitar Center.
btw, if i were you, i think i'd rather consider ESP's option, the EX-401DX. it has a Floyd Rose with a proper recessed cavity, the real Explorer body (with sharper edges to avoid a copyright violation) and has EMG 81/60 pickups instead of the 81/85.
but it's all personal preference. both are great.
AirgunAddict256 1 year ago
@AirgunAddict256 thanks again :) im going with the ESP, im gonna see if there are any on Ebay :)
ravenshield56 1 year ago
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so fucking good.!
eunts 1 year ago
so fucking good.!
eunts 1 year ago
i have one of these and im only 14 :P there was only 40 of them made limited edition with emgs and a 2200 bridge
heavymetalforever996 1 year ago
@heavymetalforever996 Wow you must be a spoiled brat. When I was 14 I had a $200 guitar.
TheZombieRitual 1 year ago
I just love that music you use in the beggining.
nightwhatchman 1 year ago
quick question, what was your reverb setting/etc for your solo section at 1:15? i like the sound but i cant get it like that, i know you have some delay in there but how much?
Souldevistator666 1 year ago
So does kahler have a locking tremolo? Or are all of them just use tremolo with locking tuners
PrsFenderJackson1980 1 year ago
@PrsFenderJackson1980 Most guitars with floating bridges have locking nuts, it's very uncommon that they don't have one.
murmelswe 1 year ago
@murmelswe Gibson is evidently cutting corners in terms of productions, and as demonstrated here in all the wrong places. Kahlers per se are great. It's beyond me why Gibson can't be bothered to spend extra $ 20 - 40 to buy and install an afternut stringlock and even out the action, so there's no buzz. Considering the RRP on that thing, that is the least one can expect from a Gibson at no extra cost to the actual price tag, really.
BeardyAirways 1 year ago
I use to be a gibson guy. No longer.
shred3303 1 year ago
WTF?.. floating bridge without locking nut oO.. that is kinda insane
BloodyKing13 1 year ago
You mention that it is a heavy guitar -- which is something I like. Do you know exactly how much it weights?
Cheers,
Zazimuth 1 year ago
could u put a locking nut on it?
arehormeus 1 year ago
@arehormeus Yep, Kahler make locking nuts, always have, they are $ 10 - 12 - unlike Floyd Nuts they are not a nut replacement, but rather an "after the nut - lock" based locking nut, which means that it can be fitted on ANY guitar without doing any structural damage to the fretboard/neck. They've got two types of nuts - either the kind you would see on old Jackson/Charvels (a lá Model 6 (aka Jackson Soloist)), except with hex screws instead of straight edge, or a Finger-Tite (aka Bill Edwards).
BeardyAirways 1 year ago
@BeardyAirways but is it as effective as a floyd rose locking nut?
arehormeus 1 year ago
Now is it better to put replace one pickup with the new X series or just replace both?
PrsFenderJackson1980 2 years ago
@PrsFenderJackson1980 i think replace both
JohnGangster2009 1 year ago
@PrsFenderJackson1980
you dont need to do that
itll just be a waste of money and time cause you already got the pickup in there
there both the same thing except the x doesnt need soldering
butterknucklez 1 year ago
if you look at every gibson with a trem none of them have a locking nut and they never have had locking nuts
davhil2 2 years ago
Not quite right:
I own a 88' Flying-V90 that came stock with Steinberger trem / locking nut and a 84' Flying V with kahler and locking nut.
mlmvideosde 1 year ago
@davhil2 Well, they recently started making a Gibson Les Paul "Axcess" with a deeper cutaway, and a full floyd rose, completee with a locking nut. I'm happy for that.
riseagainstmeatloaf 1 year ago
Explorers are heavy, this is not a problem, it is a good thing.
bananarama666 2 years ago 2
how much did u pay for that thing?
its my dream guitar:P
igg73 2 years ago
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they sucked badly you're way better off with jackson kelly or esp ex or a agile ghost plus there like 550 bucks with emgs and a floyd rose plus there 25.5 scale so its definitely better than a explorer
cobraopts7 2 years ago
its all preferance... the shorter scales seem to have a more pure, and bigger sound
TodayAt420 2 years ago
your dream is for it to go out of tune?
rgjmce666 2 years ago
I was amazed of 3 things: 1) This guy is really good!!!
2)That amp sounds incredibly good.
3) That guitar is a piece of shit. One of the most poorly constructed guitars ever.
nothinghappens1 2 years ago 7
@nothinghappens1 ya this think can stay in tune worth of shit on E standard tuning. my friend owns one. but tuned down to like drop c or C standard around that area it stays in tune just fine , especialy with good locking tuners
CemetaryGatesML 1 year ago
@nothinghappens1 Why is it the most poorly constructed guitar? Im thinking of getting one. If you could tell me then I would probably change my mind. Im not being sarcastic. As in what are the problems that you think should be addressed. Thanks man.
joshua9312 7 months ago
@joshua9312 Well man, is obvious that a major flaw is that this guitar does not have nut locking, and you know that a guitar with kahler or floyd rose must have locking nut. Another thing is that gibson started, for some reason, to be sloppy on their quality control and you can see cracks and poor finish on their guitars. But, if you want a cool explorer you should stick with the classic explorer, and if you want a modern explorer you should try the vampire blood moon explorer. Cheers man!!!
nothinghappens1 6 months ago
@nothinghappens1 Thanks man! Yea, that IS true about the guitar not having a locking nut. Thats pretty stupid of them hahha. And it its true about their quality control. I have a Gibson SG GT and the quality is pretty bad. I paid 4k for that and its not what I expected to get from. Anyway, what guitar would you suggest that has a floyd rose/ kahler for metal? Thanks.
joshua9312 6 months ago
@joshua9312 Well man, i truly recommend ibanez guitars, specially with zero resistance tremolo (which allows you to keep playing even after you broke the E, B or G high strings); after that, i´m very impressed with DEAN guitars thta sports an original floyd rose. I can tell you that my top 3 of guitar makers are:
1- ibanez 2-Dean 3- LTD (esp) . Try to avoid EMG pickups, they sound awful; but if you want active pups, seymour duncan blackouts or any active duncans. Cheers man and keep it metal!
nothinghappens1 6 months ago
i guitar with a kahler of floyd with no locking nut is absolute @$5#%
clearstorm52 2 years ago 3
you really hate gibson metal guitars don't you.......lol same here I prefer Ibanez and Jackson.
metalmillita666 2 years ago 2
how about the gibson m3? I had one, sold it and regret it.
zyxwfish 2 years ago
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Do you do anything except make noise? You're a terrible musician.
philbertfwog 2 years ago
you're an idiot, he is doing a demo of the sound and tone with the gibson. He isn't trying to create a song or masterpiece here.
devax1986 2 years ago 16
@devax1986 regardless, it does sound fantastic. :)
OMMIAMSalvation 11 months ago
Are you fucking stupid. talk about the biggest hater ever. Watch his other videos, he's amazing.
RootOfChaos 2 years ago
thick strings?
BunnyOfElvnteenlives 2 years ago
hey man ever think of getting a Line 6 pod, vypyrs are great amps from what i heard but say an X3 or XT Pod guitar processor and you can take over the world.
hopefully you had a great weekend you rock!
JYZProductions 2 years ago
you really should get a new amp man, like roland cube or peavy vyper, your such a good player, but to be honest you could get a much better tone from one of those two.
anyways, the guitar LOOKS cool, and sounds pretty cool, but i'd never buy a guitar with a kahler or floyd without a locking nut.
tango616 2 years ago
why did u buy it ?
pablitoTV 2 years ago
i would never get a guitar that includes a tremelo without a locking nut
crazay99 2 years ago 7
just but a locking nut then or get really REALLY light gauge strings and it wont go out of tune
militaryplice 2 years ago
ya but then your strings snap easier and anyways, i think that thicker strings give a meatier crunchier tone good point though and thnx for that idea.
crazylocoguitar 2 years ago
see what i do is then i bought eerny ball skinny bottem heavy tops so when i play heavy stufff on top its super heavy and thick and when i solo on bottem the strings are skinny bendable and comfy so......try that out ?
militaryplice 2 years ago
sounds beautiful despite the aforementioned problems lol
Greenburg 2 years ago
gibson guitars really arent that great for metal are they?
crazylocoguitar 2 years ago
Ever listned to metallica lol
Caboose9987202 2 years ago
metallicas my fave band- they didnt just use gibson
crazylocoguitar 2 years ago
yeah metallica is my favourite band by far! Kirk and James tend to use ESP's now.
metalmillita666 2 years ago
they didn't?
zyxwfish 2 years ago
Jesus christ i was looking at comments-kirk and james used flying vs and james used explores by gibson. IM SUCH AN ITIOT!
crazylocoguitar 2 years ago
Listen to that tone. You tell me. :D
Botdra 2 years ago
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your joking right?
crazay99 2 years ago
yeah but not technically designed for it, jackson is a better bet
englundisgod 2 years ago 2
I would love to see you review a Musicman Petrucci model to see what you think. It has a great tremolo without a locking nut and stays in tune wonderfully. I think you would like it.
monta72 2 years ago
glad to see youre making some more videos, theyre very informative
BillRad127 2 years ago
how is this guitar for rhythm playing?
guitarvibe75 2 years ago
Funney that one of the "best" guitar manufacturers makes such terrible mistakes.
vFluX 2 years ago
no locking nut? wow.
SpaceDude3600 2 years ago
I think gibson simply dont care about they're heavy metal guitars focusing on les pauls and SG models? because after all thats where they make 90% of there cash..
Nickpatient 2 years ago
you really should use a tube amp for good reviews. . but this was really good anyway, i was thinking about getting one of these
mosherhamish 2 years ago
What is going on with gibson ?!
remotecontrol1324 2 years ago 3
0.58 was beautifull,you should use that on a song.
FabioDaButterMan 2 years ago
someone has a signiture guitar without a locking nut , ypur only ment to use it for lighr vibrato
darrenguitar 2 years ago
yeah this is rediculously stupid on gibson's part
it doesnt even have a locking nut
oh gibson :3
jian2069 2 years ago
I like your boxers.
BMXcomedy 2 years ago
pretty sure those are shorts...? Anyways, awesome explorer. Id much rather prefer a floyd for my trem though.
blackoceanqueen 2 years ago
Given the fact that an expensive guitar shouldn't require a lot of work to correct problems like these, how difficult do you think it'd be to correct the problems? Say if you got a really good deal on one through an Ebay auction or the like? A Kahler locking nut wouldn't be hard to install, but the neck issue has me worried. Was the buzzing due to the neck's shape, or do the frets need work?
roentgen571 2 years ago
roentgen its simply a problem with most gibsons that they have buzz like that.
really if you want a guitar in a similar shape get a jackson kelly, besides its a guitar actually made for heavier metal
doctorchalupa 2 years ago
or you can get and ESP ex
Theereus 2 years ago
It must be a recent decline in quality control at the factory or something... I have two Gibsons, both 1970s era RD Artists (one bass, one guitar), and both are fantastic.
roentgen571 2 years ago
That's too bad about Gibson....Up until now, I've been after a Gibson, but now this video changes my opinion....
Thanks for the demo, DMO :)
DeniStoneX 2 years ago
lol you're videos are so informative. I'm just gonna stay away from Gibson guitars now. lol. But i freakin love the x-plorer shape, so im just wondering if the ESP EX or FX are any good.
RootOfChaos 2 years ago 2
i dont understand why you would keep buying kahlers?
englundisgod 2 years ago 4
This is a video I had made last year. I reuploaded as I have been updating my channel again. It's the same guitar I had last year.
dmometalguitar 2 years ago 2
okay sorry i just meant why ever buy them when dont you mbend on a guitar i bend as much as i tune
englundisgod 2 years ago
I thought you sold this guitar due to it not having a proper locking nut?
FilthyInsomniac 2 years ago 10
He returned it. (as said in the side bar)
JerkyChid 2 years ago
Ahh i misread that thanks for the correction
FilthyInsomniac 2 years ago
no prob
JerkyChid 2 years ago
dude it doesnt even have a lockin nut, just a regular nut that u would have on a guitar with a tun-o-matic bridge
fatboyphl 2 years ago
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First Comment! Woot!
XxiMattxX 2 years ago
And what are your comments on Gibson's shody quality control? You have the first comment, you must have SOME insight right? Or is the only thing you can do is count to 1?
JerkyChid 2 years ago 5
Well I was going to put this in but something got over me. Their quality control is terrible, because they didnt put a locking nut on a guitar with a Floyd Rose, plus the fact that you can see on other models that there are paint chips on the body, etc
XxiMattxX 2 years ago