@TheEpicHill Sorry, I didn't know that, I tend to get aggravated over people who use stereotypes that aren't even true. Or even stereotypes in general.
@againstthenorm92 If my memory is correct I think James 5:15-16 says something about god healing the sick and it does not mention getting the intervention of a 3rd party to do the healing, but I don’t know of a verse which asks you to rely on only god, just one that states god will heal. Anyway I could be wrong check it out if you wish.
@againstthenorm92 This is the confidence we have in approaching God: that if we ask anything according to his will, he hears us. And if we know that he hears us - whatever we ask - we know that we have what we asked of him" (1 John 5:14-15).
It's not saying to only rely on it, but it's certainly telling us it's super effective. For a true believer, and i mean a hardcore one, it's more than enough to rely only on it.
Superb. To turn to prayer in a crisis is the mark of extreme stupidity. To pray seriously for anything is to deny the role of human actions and hard work in achieving things.
@gupsphoo how about since humans were able to fathom a idea of a god (more than 2000 yrs) if i were to make fun of atheist (im assuming you are) i would point out that the majority believe in something that is equally unlikely. Something Natural Came to life. wich makes no sense. how can something be naturally made that is ridiculously complex.(Speeking of the origin of life). DNA cannot come to exist on its own. Prove to me it can and i will hear you out...
For something so life threatening and possibly debilitating should he survive, they might actually have been praying for their god to make him die and then celebrating his soul's return to heaven.
Excellent piece anyway, very much hits to the core of the absurdities that result from the assumption that intercessory gods exist.
You left out the part where after they pray for god to heal the stroke and the guy dies anyways, they all praise the lord that the guy is now in heaven and give thanks to god for being good.
I just saw a news report today on ABC new where they did a story where this thing happened, except instead of a heart attack it was a drowning kid. Instead of everyone going out to help the kid the all prayed on the beach. When the rescue team finally got the kid they thought he was dead until he was revived at the hospital. The news story claimed prayer brought the kid back to life.
@TrulyEvilBob Wasn't the rescue team out there at the time they were praying? Perhaps they told everyone to stand back rather than trying to help. Just asking, I caught the tail-end of the story on the news.
@deek77 The news presented the story like this: All the people from the Christian group there immediately did the only thing they thought would help, and fell to their knees and prayed. By the time the rescue team got there (probably because so many people were praying instead of helping) they assumed the kid was dead. Now I don't know if that is exactly what happened or the news was doing "Good Storytelling" which is, unfortunately, common in TV news, but I can only go by what is presented.
I was thinking that maybe the group should all get up and cheer when he dies - since that would mean he was with god. We all know this life is just to be tolerated - celebrate when someone you know dies!
Think about it people, if you're a Christian, what would you do in this situation? would you sit there and pray? or would you seek some medical attention?... just think about it
@javonne Well, for one to say they are Christian, they imply that they wish to be like Christ and do what He would do. There several instances in the Bible where Jesus and others advocated action vs. doing nothing. Good Samaritan story is one example. Paul taught that of when you someone with an immediate need, don't just wish them well, help them out. Proverbs 3:27 says, "Withhold not good from them to whom it is due, when it is in the power of thine hand to do it."
@deek77 I have to agree with javonne here. Your comments on this seem to have an underlying assumption that prayer is nothing more than well wishing and does not actually constitute action.
Also, to say that one would like to do as Jesus would have done; would Jesus not have simply laid hands on the man and used his faith and power to heal him? As javonne also noted, the Bible quotes Jesus giving his followers the power to do nearly anything in his name.
@AndreisEntaro my point in that comment was, instead of actually using Science (something which actually works.) these people chose faith, so would YOU just sit and pray for your sick child to recover? or would you seek some actual medical help?
@javonne I think you mis-read my comment actually. I was calling deek on his latent assumption, perhaps that he has internally accepted that prayer is meaningless and yet he still overtly defends a religion that claims prominently that prayer does work and that miracles of healing are possible with enough faith.
For all his claims, he does not seem to have much faith in those things himself. My point to him is that if he truly thought prayer worked then that should be the greatest good to give.
@AndreisEntaro Perhaps I wasn't clear, I apologize. I believe in prayer when it is time to pray. I also believe in doing something when it's time to do something. Both things are taught in the Bible, as well as the principle of there being a time a place for everything. It also teaches that faith without works is dead, that we should show faith by living it out and acting on it when it's time to do so. I may not be able to heal like Jesus, but I can administer CPR if I learned how.
@deek77 I think you were clear enough. You seem to recognize that prayer does not actually do anything and instead rely on human inventions to get real, meaningful work done. It seems the 'time to pray' is any time when doing so would not prevent you from doing something to actually affect the situation. This is the essential point in the video. If you cannot heal people or do anything meaningful by praying about it (although Jesus says you can in the Bible) then why claim 'prayer works'?
@AndreisEntaro Because there are situations where just doing something isn't enough. There are situations where the doctors, EMT, everyone did all they could and science could not keep that person alive, but faith in God and prayer did. I know a person who was declared dead from a heart attack, their heart was out of their body from emergency surgery, and the family kept their faith. They told the doctors to put the heart back in, and the person lived another 8 years.
@deek77 For every anecdotal story you see as support for prayer, there is another which clearly shows the opposite. Add to that the study done by the Templeton foundation on prayer for open heart surgery patients, the fact that many pray every day for their child to have enough food to live and yet do not get it despite their people's best efforts and the fact that one can pray to a milk jug and achieve the exact same answer rate and the case for prayer's effectiveness looks very poor indeed.
@deek77 The simple fact is, your acquaintance lives because doctors saved their life and the family wanted them back enough to try. Had their faith been stronger they might have realized that 'death is not the end' and 'their loved one goes on to rejoice in heaven'. In all honesty, why would anyone who truly believes in heaven selfishly deprive a loved one of the opportunity to have it. Why would the faithful not rejoice in their return home? Why do they instead rejoice in their life here?
@AndreisEntaro You say it was the doctors who saved their life...it was the doctor's who gave up and declared him dead. It was the doctors who took his heart out, and upon looking at it, said there was no more they could do. And to answer your question, it was not his time to go that day. If it was, he would've stayed gone despite anything the doctors or the family could do. But he came back, and blesed more people in his life for 8 more years. He passed when it was time.
@deek77 I gathered that you were referring to a real event. This does not mean that what you are calling faith did anything at all. It is no surprise that people regularly come back from clinical death, by definition it is not only possible but expected. A doctor making an error is not god at work, it is an error. Check out the wiki article on death for some insight there.
@deek77 If you still assert that it was faith or prayer then you have a ton of work ahead to account for the rest of what I presented to you.
However, if this is just hard to accept for you, then simply say so and take your time thinking about it. I am happy to discuss with you since you seem to have the patience for it.
You say it was not his time to go, but you would not know that and I was addressing the motives of the ones praying. Your faith tells you rejoice in death yet you pray for life?
@AndreisEntaro Our faith tells us to rejoice in the time we will be in heaven, but it also tells us to be thankful for the life we have now, while we still have opportunity to live a life that is pleasing to God. It is not my place to tell God when I am ready to go to heaven, because I did not give myself life. Until it's my time to leave, I must continue to live this life to fullest, for His sake, and for the sake of others I am destined to help in my life.
@deek77 I think you know that's a slim dodge of the question. The people wanted their loved one back. They weren't thanking the lord for the life they had with him, they weren't celebrating his return home. They were desperate to get him back. The question is why? If it is for their own sake, fine, that's a wonderful reason to try and save someone. It just means that their faith in god had no part in that desire.
@AndreisEntaro Not dodgin the question at all, you only say that because you have formed your own opinion about the situation. They celebrated his return home in 2005, when he passed on for good. They didn't fight against it, they didn't try to pray him back then. He accepted it, they accepted it, and they celebrated his life, because that was his time. But again, if you wish to believe they were just thinking of themselves, I can't stop you.
@AndreisEntaro Put it this way: as you've probably guessed, I'm a believer in Jesus and the Bible and what both teach. Yet I major in exercise science and recently CPR/AED certified. By your positiont, this would mean I don't believe in God enough in terms of getting people healthy and fit. On the contrary, I have a desire to please God by helping others in those field, and the education prepares me to better do those things. I simply use natural means to meet my spiritual & social goals.
@AndreisEntaro ...Now if people conclude or wishe to see that as impossible, that I can't engage in any scientific or educational arena and still call myself a man of faith, I can't really stop them from thinking that.
@deek77 As you say, you willingly choose to use natural means to meet spiritual goals. My question is why?
The man and book you claim tell you, in so many words, you can do so much more if you just have the faith to rely on god. For you, at best, scientific study can only try and tell you what you cannot do. Your faith tells you that mountains are movable with a word. Which do you actually rely on? Consistently you have said science.
@AndreisEntaro Why? Because the two are not always mutually exclusive, as some believe. And what I have consistently saying is that I seek to display my faith in God in all kinds of ways, by means of praying when necessary, by means of acting when necessary.
@deek77 You say they should at least call 911. But what if they had prayed and the man lived? Would you not, with good reason, say that their faith had healed him. That god saw fit to answer their prayers? What a testament to god's grace that would be.
If that sort of thing consistently occurred I might even be convinced that the Christians have something going there. But it does not occur and when the man predictably dies due to their inaction we blame them and not god.
@deek77 That is exactly why I quoted you. You say, 'the actions of humans did not solve the problem'. Not 'their faith motivated them to solve the problem'. Which problems? What actions were tried and failed? What did prayer do to solve the problem? If you have one, link to a report about it. Otherwise, this is just baseless assertion.
@AndreisEntaro I must leave, but it's been good talking to you, even though it's pretty clear we disagree on things. I do appreciate you challenging me on my faith, you brought up some good points. Take care.
@deek77 I wish you well, it has been a good talk. Productive even in our disagreement, I think. If you would like to talk more, send me a PM any time.
@deek77 So I contend, that in your heart, you know prayer fails you. You know that the deepest pleadings of people the world over fall on deaf or at least indifferent ears. You and I both know this in our core. You and I both rely on the tools and science of man when it comes to actually solving problems. The small difference is that you still claim it is this god that does the good in the world where I recognize that ever bit of good ever done in this world was worked by human beings.
@AndreisEntaro You can contend that if you wish, but don't presume to know what I know, sir. And you neglect the many instances where science positively did not solve the problem, where the action of humans did not solve the problem.
@deek77 "where the action of humans did not solve the problem" I would see your verifiable evidence there. What problems do you assert that prayer has provided an answer to when humans failed? As stated, that assertion is far too vague what might you be referring to? I would have expected this to be serious world news if, say, an angel had come as an answer to prayer and told us how to solve some big question.
@deek77 What you are perhaps confused about however, is caused by a rather loose definition of death as used in the medical field. To be 'declared medically dead' simply means that your heart has stopped beating on it's own and you will no longer survive without artificial life support. People return from this all the time. This differs from actual death and the legal definition, where the brain is so starved and damaged that even if reactivated the personality would not persist.
@AndreisEntaro Not confused on anything, actually. In this case it wasn't just that the heart that stopped beating and they revived him; they removed the heart after he died, at that point they concluded no chance of recovery. It was out of the body for at least 30 min because they were getting ready to bring in for pathology, and instead the family requested they put it back in.
@deek77 That's exactly where you are confused my friend. Please, please read up on death. There are articles on wiki, medical books about it and numerous articles you can find on google scholar. You will find, that death is a process with symptoms and that we now know it takes a variable and extensive amount of time (depending on circumstances) for sufficient cellular damage to occur such that the person is no longer there even if you restart the body.
@AndreisEntaro You keep thinking I'm confused on this issue of death. I have medical professionals in my family and circle of friends who know way more than you or I do on the subject, and even they would say there is no scientific explanation for what happened in that situation. I'm not confused, but if you wish to think I am, I can't stop you.
@deek77 I really hope you will read up on death. And really ask your medical friends what death is to medicine then. If they would say there is no scientific explanation for what happened they do so at the cost of their scientific inquiry and to the contrary of everything they have learned in medicine. What little I do know about science, medicine especially makes it clear that every single time we say "there can be no explanation", an explanation stubbornly arises to make us the fool.
@AndreisEntaro You make a lot of assumptions here. You assume I have not already read up on death. You assume my friends in the field are not clear on what death is in the medical sense. You assume the doctors who operated on him were not clear on the matter, even though they know more than anyone because they were the ones who declared him dead.
@deek77 I make no assumptions save the first. And that only because you have demonstrated twice now a narrow view on death.I do reserve my doubts about your claim to the doctor's position on this though.To say 'we just can't explain this' and leave it at that is an affront to the scientific mind. The unanswered question is, after all, what the scientist makes his living chasing after. We may not know for sure now, but people are working on an answer, it's not inexplicable doctors know this well.
@AndreisEntaro I'm sorry sir, but you have been making assumptions from the start. You assume Christianity preaches that praying is the only way to display faith in God, which is neither what Jesus nor the Bible teaches. You assume that if a Christian acts rather than prays, he is not displaying real faith in God, which also is not what the Bible teaches. You assume Christianity is about faith vs. action, when the Bible preaches faith through action.
@deek77 It's interesting that you would make those...assumptions about me. I have not claimed those things but used them to extract your true opinion on these matters. I know very well that the book teaches that faith without works is meaningless and works without faith is bankrupt. My point is, that it also teaches that prayer is a work that through faith as a mustard seed one can move mountains with a word. I take issue with "Christians" who claim this but do not act on it when the time comes.
@AndreisEntaro If we're talking Christians who do not not have enough faith to pray and believe God to come through when it is time to pray, then that clears up a few things. If that's your intended meaning, then I did assume otherwise, and I apologize. I would submit, however, that in the instance of this video, this was not one of those times. Just as every person in that room had ability to pray, they also had ability to at least call 911.
@javonne ...Then of course there's the "Do unto others" mandate that Jesus gave. And there many instances where Jesus stopped what He was doing and helped people in need. So there's many instances where the Bible teaches to help someone when there's opportunity to do it. Problems is, lot of people say they're Christian but don't devote themselves to doing what Christ would do.
@deek77 then you tell me friend, what Shoud these people have done in that situation? should they pray to God to heal him? (thus showing their un-wavering faith in God and his might) Or should they have called the ambulance and medical team? (thus showing that instead of using faith to heal this man, they'd rather use secular means for healing the man)... Jesus said that these and greater shall you do in my name.. Yet most would choose science. Not faith.
@Strangerinasland lol good question, I'm not a christian by the way. I mean't that instead of most believers truly praying to God for healing. they'd rather make the more logical choice and choose science... I mean, we all know what happens when believers choose faith over science in this situation. They're usually locked up and thrown in a mental institute, or thrown in jail for life... I mean, no christian should ever go to the doctor, or need Advil, or Benidril.
@javonne There is more faith than just praying, just as there is more to love than just saying I love you. In both cases, the words mean nothing if no action takes place to demonstrate that faith and/or love. In the Good Samritan story, Jesus praised the one who stopped and helped the person in need of help. If there is an opportunity to help someone, the Christian should act upon it as best they can. If that's CPR, then do so, if it's calling 911 and/or helping someone do CPR, then do so.
Wow, all this video does is make atheists look like a bunch of arrogant, bitter and unfunny pricks. I'm an atheist and this is a fucking embarassment.
@FluffyPidgeon yo Jimbo, I think you missed the part where it said Satire. Also, I think you were on the wrong video as Christians were portrayed in this satire and not Atheists
@Colimarm Hmm, no; I think you've missed my point, 'Jimbo'. The 'satire' in this video is so shallow and so repulsively unfunny that it actually has the opposite of it's intended effect. It makes atheists look like a bunch of aggressive pseudo-intellectuals with little logic to back up what should be an enlightening school of thought.. Frankly, the whole mocking tone of this channel will probably do nothing but feed peoples perceptions of atheists being stuck up arseholes.
@sesshoin1 I don't want to sound condescending, but I think you should re-read my comment properly.
I myself am an atheist. My problem with this video is that it unwittingly portrays atheists as self-righteous douchebags, when in fact we should be trying to debate our non-belief with something more substantial. (We have a very good case!) Or at least a video that's actually fucking funny!
@FluffyPidgeon Oh....my bad. I truly did not read it right and that is my fault. all i really saw was "atheist with little logic" and i got a bit thoughtless. >.< I see your point now. I also think that the videos are not really meant to insult Christians but to give them an insight about how we view their religion since it seems that they are always asking the "why are you an atheist" question.
@sesshoin1 No worries. I can see where the need for these kind of 'defending your home turf' videos come from anyway. In America, Atheists are in a much smaller percentage and you probably need to argue your case more aggressively. Where I come from, pretty much everyone is an Atheist so we don't get asked these rigourous questions day after day! I just think a little more subtlety is in order.
@FluffyPidgeon Agreed 100%. Which is why I'm not going to stay in America long. I'm only 15 so I can't leave anytime soon. When I can I plan on going to Canada or Sweden. Any place with a smaller religious percentage that does not intrude on your lifestyle is find by me.
@FluffyPidgeon Actually, I agree. It seems to me that some Atheists these days resemble preachers from the 1960's. However this channel is more of a mix of differences, we have the far satire to the explanation of why we should not hate those we disagree with. I am indifferent to beliefs of others unless those are being thrown at me. This channel is actually more tame than others. But again, I agree with your point as it was laid out fully.
@FluffyPidgeon wooosh, right over your head, just apply some critical thought and a sense of humour. as for making us look arrogant!. come out man, who are you. are you a christian with no sense of humour?. thats what i smell. lifes to short man, chill out. peace and love to all..
@kram83au Hahahahaha, yeah sure. This BITING SATIRE was far too complex for me to understand I guess! Good one!
No, I am just concerned that these kind of videos look like they were made by psuedo-intellectual elitists, and subsequently make other atheists look the same. These videos should be here to convince religious groups to re-think their belief system, but instead they simply feed the ego of the type of atheists that give us a bad name. It's pure masturbation!
I think I'm going to make one of these, except there's going to be a part where Jesus tells parents to kill their kids, because that's what he says in the Bible. ^.^
@Tinark That's exactly what I thought was going to happen. I thought they were showing passiveness/indifference as he died because he was going to the super-wonderful heaven and leaving this world behind, and would jump up in praise once he let out his dying breath.
recently the catholic pope made an encyclical stating that science was not the, 'answer' for man but rather faith. he had a shot at anti-theist by also saying those who turn to science were turning away from God. My point?...you watch that old fuck get his arse to the best Doctors in Rome the moment he finds out he has cancer!! typical religious zealot..hypocritical in all that they do.
Christians are so ridiculous! In the real situation, they probably would call the ambulance, which means that they're not really depending on "God' to heal you, but on "man made" modern medicine. smh
Another very well done video. I would like to see a religious person use only prayer for themselves rather than use a hospital if they got sick. Of course I don't want to see anyone get sick but I would like to see how far their supposed "faith" would go. Like the old saying, put your money where your mouth is. LOL
I love how the statement "Atheists are normal people" is spammed. I guess doctors, scientists, atheists military personnel, etc. are not normal people... makes sense, they are extra special than theists, simply because atheists are smart enough to say that "This is ridiculous, cant believe this books are taken seriously".
Just shows how dumb people are, when they flag statements stating the obvious, but refuses to flag statements of extra-leap to fantasy land statements.
That, or they would lose their shit with glee celebrating that their dearest friend went to heaven to live in a world of boundless joy forever:
"Oh my god! Larry is being called by the Lord! What a lucky fella'! Fly Larry, fly to heaven to infinite bliss! You deserve it, old pal! Send my regards to my grandma!"
@kaminarigaston , yes, dead on. This is what I always thought how christians would behave if they really believed. Shouldn't news of a terminal illness be handled more like opening an early christmas present? Why are they so glum when they realize they are going to heaven? :)
I just noticed - and maybe this is intentional in some way - that the Atheist symbol at the end is shaped like the mirror image of the classic Star Trek star-fleet insignia.
The Lord shall not listen; the harlot wears lipstick, and we all know painting your lips is a sin.
Plus the men all shaved their sideburns; fer crying out loud, how do they even expect to get any answer to their prayers, when they so blatantly disregard God's law? I'll bet they plant wheat and barley in the same furrow, too...
oho look, another movie that tells us that god does not exist, orly? ur kinda late, I discoevered that when I was 9 years old, pretty much when I discovered that santa wasnt real aswell. so pathetic that hundreds of people keeps posting shit like this, we saw ZOMGcrits first, now everyone is following her.
@odikqah You're aware that the ideas of atheism have existed long before the internet, and certainly long before ZOMG, yes? The idea here that people who believe should only pray if they have such strong faith, is an old argumentl, and unfortunately one that has roots in reality. Why don't you take your head out of your ass long enough to grasp the some argument themes will be repeated because they are potent or effective and stop being a dick. Not everyone sees ZOMG, so he makes it a bigger net
If they had one grain of faith, they could heal the dude and for desert move a mountain. Some may try to say that the reciever or victim requires to have faith, when they do this say "away with thee satan" that is not what the bible says.
So why have they not cleaned out a major hospital in one day ... ever....
Haha I was thinking o making a multi-faith hospital..........a room for emergency, where doctor's use their million of years of studying to heal the patient and a room for "the faithful" where they can go and pray for cure. I think that is only fair, so religious people don't have to insult us health professionals when thanking someone else :)
This might seem as a joke to you but it has happened to someone i know who is a hard core pentecostal who was refused medical treatment by his congregation when he had an attack during Sunday service and all they did was pray . . . . . when my father came to know about this he rushed to church where the pastor insisted that no medical attention is required Since they prayed . . .my dad rushed him to a hospital due to which he survived.
Earlier in the year as my mother and grandmother were getting ready to leave for a weekend at a bed and breakfast, mom tripped on the edge of the rug and hit her head on the door post. I ran to get ice while my grandmother stood there proclaiming, "Satan, we come against this in the NAME OF JESUS!" Wait, what? So the devil tripped mom? Oh I know, maybe the growing knot on her forehead was actually a demon setting up residence! What's wrong with these people??
@bricookiefl6 So you inspire to be like a man that said if you do not believe me you shall burn in hell for eternity? The morals of christianity are not those to aspire too!
OMG, ITS KIRA, HE'S ALIVE AND IN OUR WORLD
483091 2 months ago
@483091 haha is this a death note reference?.....Hell yea!
rickross22 1 month ago
@483091 XDDDD Death Note
migueleato 1 month ago
@483091 Death Note FTW
StraightPunkEdge93 1 month ago
nah, they will call the ambulance, then pray and then say god saved him. thats why we call them DELUSIONAL
a10fjet 3 months ago
I wish more people saw things like this xD
turtlemcturtturt 3 months ago
Awesome
Thinkdeep420 3 months ago
Aouw cra - er, crud..... I looked at the title and thought I saw "Donner" party, not "Dinner" party.....
WWZenaDo 4 months ago
I love YouTube christian zealots
TheSmaych 4 months ago
LOL
ArtistryofDebauchery 5 months ago
Wow this was epic genius!
gravekeepersven 5 months ago in playlist More videos from TheThinkingAtheist
fucking brilliant!
StarCraftRaver 6 months ago
I thought they were all going to rejoice that he was on his way to the holy land!
sheri226 6 months ago
There's no top comment! How special...lets keep it this way.
AlexPiti5 6 months ago in playlist More videos from TheThinkingAtheist
@AlexPiti5 Thats only because you cant give a thumbs up or down to comments
littledeville83 5 months ago
@littledeville83 lol
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littledeville83 5 months ago
I LOVE THE OUTRO SONG!!
bozaki87 6 months ago
I really wish this can become real.
AtheistsAreSkeptics 6 months ago in playlist More videos from TheThinkingAtheist
Hahahahahahaha brilliant!
IcarusTouma 6 months ago
WHY ARE THEY ALL FAT
frunchzz 6 months ago
@frunchzz Americans :D
TheEpicHill 6 months ago
@TheEpicHill The classic stereotypical dumb ass who has no idea what he is talking about :D
PivotRedAce 6 months ago
@PivotRedAce I am an American, I was just kidding >.>
TheEpicHill 6 months ago
@TheEpicHill Sorry, I didn't know that, I tend to get aggravated over people who use stereotypes that aren't even true. Or even stereotypes in general.
PivotRedAce 6 months ago
@PivotRedAce Eh, it's cool
TheEpicHill 6 months ago
Wheezy Waiter!
notilhenger 6 months ago
Where in the bible does it say to only rely on prayer? I'm an agnostic that sides with atheists so I'm just wondering
againstthenorm92 6 months ago
@againstthenorm92 If my memory is correct I think James 5:15-16 says something about god healing the sick and it does not mention getting the intervention of a 3rd party to do the healing, but I don’t know of a verse which asks you to rely on only god, just one that states god will heal. Anyway I could be wrong check it out if you wish.
SolarFire45 6 months ago
@againstthenorm92 This is the confidence we have in approaching God: that if we ask anything according to his will, he hears us. And if we know that he hears us - whatever we ask - we know that we have what we asked of him" (1 John 5:14-15).
It's not saying to only rely on it, but it's certainly telling us it's super effective. For a true believer, and i mean a hardcore one, it's more than enough to rely only on it.
ThinkerResearcher 6 months ago
thinking is what comes before believing. you'll get the message if it was ment for you.
jhlovingiii 6 months ago
@jhlovingiii are you trolling?
mullacABC 6 months ago
I LOL´ed
ThePeruvianGuy 6 months ago
I'm an atheist but I don't think this channel is particularly big or clever.
mrjamthebam 6 months ago
@mrjamthebam I like it though....
trailerfitter2 6 months ago
@mrjamthebam It's mostly about the Podcasts, actually.
bangNL94 6 months ago
@mrjamthebam Than why are you watching it? Go complain somewhere else.
TheSarenarass 6 months ago
@mrjamthebam troll
iShoootz 6 months ago
Superb. To turn to prayer in a crisis is the mark of extreme stupidity. To pray seriously for anything is to deny the role of human actions and hard work in achieving things.
drdeveril 6 months ago
This Is Fucking Ridiculous come on huys you can come up with some better
djkujo007 6 months ago
@djkujo007 Yes you're correct. God believers had never come up with something better in the last 2000 years.
gupsphoo 6 months ago
@gupsphoo how about since humans were able to fathom a idea of a god (more than 2000 yrs) if i were to make fun of atheist (im assuming you are) i would point out that the majority believe in something that is equally unlikely. Something Natural Came to life. wich makes no sense. how can something be naturally made that is ridiculously complex.(Speeking of the origin of life). DNA cannot come to exist on its own. Prove to me it can and i will hear you out...
djkujo007 6 months ago
For something so life threatening and possibly debilitating should he survive, they might actually have been praying for their god to make him die and then celebrating his soul's return to heaven.
Excellent piece anyway, very much hits to the core of the absurdities that result from the assumption that intercessory gods exist.
AndreisEntaro 6 months ago
Nothing fails like prayer.
Sweence 6 months ago
That is one BADASS music at the end.
Metalgears1 6 months ago
You left out the part where after they pray for god to heal the stroke and the guy dies anyways, they all praise the lord that the guy is now in heaven and give thanks to god for being good.
rkyeun 6 months ago
I just saw a news report today on ABC new where they did a story where this thing happened, except instead of a heart attack it was a drowning kid. Instead of everyone going out to help the kid the all prayed on the beach. When the rescue team finally got the kid they thought he was dead until he was revived at the hospital. The news story claimed prayer brought the kid back to life.
TrulyEvilBob 6 months ago
@TrulyEvilBob Wasn't the rescue team out there at the time they were praying? Perhaps they told everyone to stand back rather than trying to help. Just asking, I caught the tail-end of the story on the news.
deek77 6 months ago
@deek77 The news presented the story like this: All the people from the Christian group there immediately did the only thing they thought would help, and fell to their knees and prayed. By the time the rescue team got there (probably because so many people were praying instead of helping) they assumed the kid was dead. Now I don't know if that is exactly what happened or the news was doing "Good Storytelling" which is, unfortunately, common in TV news, but I can only go by what is presented.
TrulyEvilBob 6 months ago
@TrulyEvilBob Ah I see, thanks.
deek77 6 months ago
50 people don't think heart attacks are funny
tttbasura 6 months ago
I was thinking that maybe the group should all get up and cheer when he dies - since that would mean he was with god. We all know this life is just to be tolerated - celebrate when someone you know dies!
Justavian 6 months ago
Think about it people, if you're a Christian, what would you do in this situation? would you sit there and pray? or would you seek some medical attention?... just think about it
javonne 6 months ago
@javonne Well, for one to say they are Christian, they imply that they wish to be like Christ and do what He would do. There several instances in the Bible where Jesus and others advocated action vs. doing nothing. Good Samaritan story is one example. Paul taught that of when you someone with an immediate need, don't just wish them well, help them out. Proverbs 3:27 says, "Withhold not good from them to whom it is due, when it is in the power of thine hand to do it."
deek77 6 months ago
@deek77 I have to agree with javonne here. Your comments on this seem to have an underlying assumption that prayer is nothing more than well wishing and does not actually constitute action.
Also, to say that one would like to do as Jesus would have done; would Jesus not have simply laid hands on the man and used his faith and power to heal him? As javonne also noted, the Bible quotes Jesus giving his followers the power to do nearly anything in his name.
AndreisEntaro 6 months ago
@AndreisEntaro my point in that comment was, instead of actually using Science (something which actually works.) these people chose faith, so would YOU just sit and pray for your sick child to recover? or would you seek some actual medical help?
javonne 6 months ago
@javonne I think you mis-read my comment actually. I was calling deek on his latent assumption, perhaps that he has internally accepted that prayer is meaningless and yet he still overtly defends a religion that claims prominently that prayer does work and that miracles of healing are possible with enough faith.
For all his claims, he does not seem to have much faith in those things himself. My point to him is that if he truly thought prayer worked then that should be the greatest good to give.
AndreisEntaro 6 months ago
@AndreisEntaro Perhaps I wasn't clear, I apologize. I believe in prayer when it is time to pray. I also believe in doing something when it's time to do something. Both things are taught in the Bible, as well as the principle of there being a time a place for everything. It also teaches that faith without works is dead, that we should show faith by living it out and acting on it when it's time to do so. I may not be able to heal like Jesus, but I can administer CPR if I learned how.
deek77 6 months ago
@deek77 I think you were clear enough. You seem to recognize that prayer does not actually do anything and instead rely on human inventions to get real, meaningful work done. It seems the 'time to pray' is any time when doing so would not prevent you from doing something to actually affect the situation. This is the essential point in the video. If you cannot heal people or do anything meaningful by praying about it (although Jesus says you can in the Bible) then why claim 'prayer works'?
AndreisEntaro 6 months ago
@AndreisEntaro Because there are situations where just doing something isn't enough. There are situations where the doctors, EMT, everyone did all they could and science could not keep that person alive, but faith in God and prayer did. I know a person who was declared dead from a heart attack, their heart was out of their body from emergency surgery, and the family kept their faith. They told the doctors to put the heart back in, and the person lived another 8 years.
deek77 6 months ago
@deek77 For every anecdotal story you see as support for prayer, there is another which clearly shows the opposite. Add to that the study done by the Templeton foundation on prayer for open heart surgery patients, the fact that many pray every day for their child to have enough food to live and yet do not get it despite their people's best efforts and the fact that one can pray to a milk jug and achieve the exact same answer rate and the case for prayer's effectiveness looks very poor indeed.
AndreisEntaro 6 months ago
@AndreisEntaro Well it's not a story, it actually happened in 1997. The effectiveness of prayer and faith in that case was strong.
deek77 6 months ago
@deek77 The simple fact is, your acquaintance lives because doctors saved their life and the family wanted them back enough to try. Had their faith been stronger they might have realized that 'death is not the end' and 'their loved one goes on to rejoice in heaven'. In all honesty, why would anyone who truly believes in heaven selfishly deprive a loved one of the opportunity to have it. Why would the faithful not rejoice in their return home? Why do they instead rejoice in their life here?
AndreisEntaro 6 months ago
@AndreisEntaro You say it was the doctors who saved their life...it was the doctor's who gave up and declared him dead. It was the doctors who took his heart out, and upon looking at it, said there was no more they could do. And to answer your question, it was not his time to go that day. If it was, he would've stayed gone despite anything the doctors or the family could do. But he came back, and blesed more people in his life for 8 more years. He passed when it was time.
deek77 6 months ago
@deek77 I gathered that you were referring to a real event. This does not mean that what you are calling faith did anything at all. It is no surprise that people regularly come back from clinical death, by definition it is not only possible but expected. A doctor making an error is not god at work, it is an error. Check out the wiki article on death for some insight there.
AndreisEntaro 6 months ago
@deek77 If you still assert that it was faith or prayer then you have a ton of work ahead to account for the rest of what I presented to you.
However, if this is just hard to accept for you, then simply say so and take your time thinking about it. I am happy to discuss with you since you seem to have the patience for it.
You say it was not his time to go, but you would not know that and I was addressing the motives of the ones praying. Your faith tells you rejoice in death yet you pray for life?
AndreisEntaro 6 months ago
@AndreisEntaro Our faith tells us to rejoice in the time we will be in heaven, but it also tells us to be thankful for the life we have now, while we still have opportunity to live a life that is pleasing to God. It is not my place to tell God when I am ready to go to heaven, because I did not give myself life. Until it's my time to leave, I must continue to live this life to fullest, for His sake, and for the sake of others I am destined to help in my life.
deek77 6 months ago
@deek77 I think you know that's a slim dodge of the question. The people wanted their loved one back. They weren't thanking the lord for the life they had with him, they weren't celebrating his return home. They were desperate to get him back. The question is why? If it is for their own sake, fine, that's a wonderful reason to try and save someone. It just means that their faith in god had no part in that desire.
AndreisEntaro 6 months ago
@AndreisEntaro Not dodgin the question at all, you only say that because you have formed your own opinion about the situation. They celebrated his return home in 2005, when he passed on for good. They didn't fight against it, they didn't try to pray him back then. He accepted it, they accepted it, and they celebrated his life, because that was his time. But again, if you wish to believe they were just thinking of themselves, I can't stop you.
deek77 6 months ago
@AndreisEntaro Put it this way: as you've probably guessed, I'm a believer in Jesus and the Bible and what both teach. Yet I major in exercise science and recently CPR/AED certified. By your positiont, this would mean I don't believe in God enough in terms of getting people healthy and fit. On the contrary, I have a desire to please God by helping others in those field, and the education prepares me to better do those things. I simply use natural means to meet my spiritual & social goals.
deek77 6 months ago
@AndreisEntaro ...Now if people conclude or wishe to see that as impossible, that I can't engage in any scientific or educational arena and still call myself a man of faith, I can't really stop them from thinking that.
deek77 6 months ago
@deek77 As you say, you willingly choose to use natural means to meet spiritual goals. My question is why?
The man and book you claim tell you, in so many words, you can do so much more if you just have the faith to rely on god. For you, at best, scientific study can only try and tell you what you cannot do. Your faith tells you that mountains are movable with a word. Which do you actually rely on? Consistently you have said science.
AndreisEntaro 6 months ago
@AndreisEntaro Why? Because the two are not always mutually exclusive, as some believe. And what I have consistently saying is that I seek to display my faith in God in all kinds of ways, by means of praying when necessary, by means of acting when necessary.
deek77 6 months ago
@deek77 You say they should at least call 911. But what if they had prayed and the man lived? Would you not, with good reason, say that their faith had healed him. That god saw fit to answer their prayers? What a testament to god's grace that would be.
If that sort of thing consistently occurred I might even be convinced that the Christians have something going there. But it does not occur and when the man predictably dies due to their inaction we blame them and not god.
AndreisEntaro 6 months ago
@AndreisEntaro As I've been saying, prayer is not the only work or display of one's faith, there are several.
deek77 6 months ago
@deek77 That is exactly why I quoted you. You say, 'the actions of humans did not solve the problem'. Not 'their faith motivated them to solve the problem'. Which problems? What actions were tried and failed? What did prayer do to solve the problem? If you have one, link to a report about it. Otherwise, this is just baseless assertion.
AndreisEntaro 6 months ago
@AndreisEntaro I must leave, but it's been good talking to you, even though it's pretty clear we disagree on things. I do appreciate you challenging me on my faith, you brought up some good points. Take care.
deek77 6 months ago
@deek77 I wish you well, it has been a good talk. Productive even in our disagreement, I think. If you would like to talk more, send me a PM any time.
AndreisEntaro 6 months ago
@deek77 So I contend, that in your heart, you know prayer fails you. You know that the deepest pleadings of people the world over fall on deaf or at least indifferent ears. You and I both know this in our core. You and I both rely on the tools and science of man when it comes to actually solving problems. The small difference is that you still claim it is this god that does the good in the world where I recognize that ever bit of good ever done in this world was worked by human beings.
AndreisEntaro 6 months ago
@AndreisEntaro You can contend that if you wish, but don't presume to know what I know, sir. And you neglect the many instances where science positively did not solve the problem, where the action of humans did not solve the problem.
deek77 6 months ago
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@deek77 "where the action of humans did not solve the problem" I would see your verifiable evidence there. What problems do you assert that prayer has provided an answer to when humans failed? As stated, that assertion is far too vague what might you be referring to? I would have expected this to be serious world news if, say, an angel had come as an answer to prayer and told us how to solve some big question.
AndreisEntaro 6 months ago
@deek77 What you are perhaps confused about however, is caused by a rather loose definition of death as used in the medical field. To be 'declared medically dead' simply means that your heart has stopped beating on it's own and you will no longer survive without artificial life support. People return from this all the time. This differs from actual death and the legal definition, where the brain is so starved and damaged that even if reactivated the personality would not persist.
AndreisEntaro 6 months ago
@AndreisEntaro Not confused on anything, actually. In this case it wasn't just that the heart that stopped beating and they revived him; they removed the heart after he died, at that point they concluded no chance of recovery. It was out of the body for at least 30 min because they were getting ready to bring in for pathology, and instead the family requested they put it back in.
deek77 6 months ago
@deek77 That's exactly where you are confused my friend. Please, please read up on death. There are articles on wiki, medical books about it and numerous articles you can find on google scholar. You will find, that death is a process with symptoms and that we now know it takes a variable and extensive amount of time (depending on circumstances) for sufficient cellular damage to occur such that the person is no longer there even if you restart the body.
AndreisEntaro 6 months ago
@AndreisEntaro You keep thinking I'm confused on this issue of death. I have medical professionals in my family and circle of friends who know way more than you or I do on the subject, and even they would say there is no scientific explanation for what happened in that situation. I'm not confused, but if you wish to think I am, I can't stop you.
deek77 6 months ago
@deek77 I really hope you will read up on death. And really ask your medical friends what death is to medicine then. If they would say there is no scientific explanation for what happened they do so at the cost of their scientific inquiry and to the contrary of everything they have learned in medicine. What little I do know about science, medicine especially makes it clear that every single time we say "there can be no explanation", an explanation stubbornly arises to make us the fool.
AndreisEntaro 6 months ago
@AndreisEntaro You make a lot of assumptions here. You assume I have not already read up on death. You assume my friends in the field are not clear on what death is in the medical sense. You assume the doctors who operated on him were not clear on the matter, even though they know more than anyone because they were the ones who declared him dead.
deek77 6 months ago
@deek77 I make no assumptions save the first. And that only because you have demonstrated twice now a narrow view on death.I do reserve my doubts about your claim to the doctor's position on this though.To say 'we just can't explain this' and leave it at that is an affront to the scientific mind. The unanswered question is, after all, what the scientist makes his living chasing after. We may not know for sure now, but people are working on an answer, it's not inexplicable doctors know this well.
AndreisEntaro 6 months ago
@AndreisEntaro I'm sorry sir, but you have been making assumptions from the start. You assume Christianity preaches that praying is the only way to display faith in God, which is neither what Jesus nor the Bible teaches. You assume that if a Christian acts rather than prays, he is not displaying real faith in God, which also is not what the Bible teaches. You assume Christianity is about faith vs. action, when the Bible preaches faith through action.
deek77 6 months ago
@deek77 It's interesting that you would make those...assumptions about me. I have not claimed those things but used them to extract your true opinion on these matters. I know very well that the book teaches that faith without works is meaningless and works without faith is bankrupt. My point is, that it also teaches that prayer is a work that through faith as a mustard seed one can move mountains with a word. I take issue with "Christians" who claim this but do not act on it when the time comes.
AndreisEntaro 6 months ago
@AndreisEntaro If we're talking Christians who do not not have enough faith to pray and believe God to come through when it is time to pray, then that clears up a few things. If that's your intended meaning, then I did assume otherwise, and I apologize. I would submit, however, that in the instance of this video, this was not one of those times. Just as every person in that room had ability to pray, they also had ability to at least call 911.
deek77 6 months ago
@javonne ...Then of course there's the "Do unto others" mandate that Jesus gave. And there many instances where Jesus stopped what He was doing and helped people in need. So there's many instances where the Bible teaches to help someone when there's opportunity to do it. Problems is, lot of people say they're Christian but don't devote themselves to doing what Christ would do.
deek77 6 months ago
@deek77 then you tell me friend, what Shoud these people have done in that situation? should they pray to God to heal him? (thus showing their un-wavering faith in God and his might) Or should they have called the ambulance and medical team? (thus showing that instead of using faith to heal this man, they'd rather use secular means for healing the man)... Jesus said that these and greater shall you do in my name.. Yet most would choose science. Not faith.
javonne 6 months ago
@javonne "un-wavering faith in God and his might"
Why his? Does your imaginary fiend have a penis?
Strangerinasland 6 months ago
@Strangerinasland lol good question, I'm not a christian by the way. I mean't that instead of most believers truly praying to God for healing. they'd rather make the more logical choice and choose science... I mean, we all know what happens when believers choose faith over science in this situation. They're usually locked up and thrown in a mental institute, or thrown in jail for life... I mean, no christian should ever go to the doctor, or need Advil, or Benidril.
javonne 6 months ago
@javonne There is more faith than just praying, just as there is more to love than just saying I love you. In both cases, the words mean nothing if no action takes place to demonstrate that faith and/or love. In the Good Samritan story, Jesus praised the one who stopped and helped the person in need of help. If there is an opportunity to help someone, the Christian should act upon it as best they can. If that's CPR, then do so, if it's calling 911 and/or helping someone do CPR, then do so.
deek77 6 months ago
Hey! The Lord heard their prayers! Jk lol
ImAnotherZang 7 months ago
muslims do that too :P
BAZOOKA4444 7 months ago
Another theist bites the dust
ItsNotEvenSunny 7 months ago
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"personal relationship with reality"
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DarkArcticSun 7 months ago
Wow, all this video does is make atheists look like a bunch of arrogant, bitter and unfunny pricks. I'm an atheist and this is a fucking embarassment.
FluffyPidgeon 7 months ago
@FluffyPidgeon yo Jimbo, I think you missed the part where it said Satire. Also, I think you were on the wrong video as Christians were portrayed in this satire and not Atheists
Colimarm 7 months ago
@Colimarm Hmm, no; I think you've missed my point, 'Jimbo'. The 'satire' in this video is so shallow and so repulsively unfunny that it actually has the opposite of it's intended effect. It makes atheists look like a bunch of aggressive pseudo-intellectuals with little logic to back up what should be an enlightening school of thought.. Frankly, the whole mocking tone of this channel will probably do nothing but feed peoples perceptions of atheists being stuck up arseholes.
FluffyPidgeon 7 months ago
@FluffyPidgeon Atheist have little logic to back up what they say?????? What?! wow........It's the other way around my friend.
sesshoin1 7 months ago
@sesshoin1 I don't want to sound condescending, but I think you should re-read my comment properly.
I myself am an atheist. My problem with this video is that it unwittingly portrays atheists as self-righteous douchebags, when in fact we should be trying to debate our non-belief with something more substantial. (We have a very good case!) Or at least a video that's actually fucking funny!
FluffyPidgeon 7 months ago
@FluffyPidgeon Oh....my bad. I truly did not read it right and that is my fault. all i really saw was "atheist with little logic" and i got a bit thoughtless. >.< I see your point now. I also think that the videos are not really meant to insult Christians but to give them an insight about how we view their religion since it seems that they are always asking the "why are you an atheist" question.
sesshoin1 7 months ago
@sesshoin1 No worries. I can see where the need for these kind of 'defending your home turf' videos come from anyway. In America, Atheists are in a much smaller percentage and you probably need to argue your case more aggressively. Where I come from, pretty much everyone is an Atheist so we don't get asked these rigourous questions day after day! I just think a little more subtlety is in order.
FluffyPidgeon 7 months ago
@FluffyPidgeon Agreed 100%. Which is why I'm not going to stay in America long. I'm only 15 so I can't leave anytime soon. When I can I plan on going to Canada or Sweden. Any place with a smaller religious percentage that does not intrude on your lifestyle is find by me.
sesshoin1 7 months ago
@FluffyPidgeon Actually, I agree. It seems to me that some Atheists these days resemble preachers from the 1960's. However this channel is more of a mix of differences, we have the far satire to the explanation of why we should not hate those we disagree with. I am indifferent to beliefs of others unless those are being thrown at me. This channel is actually more tame than others. But again, I agree with your point as it was laid out fully.
Colimarm 7 months ago
@FluffyPidgeon wooosh, right over your head, just apply some critical thought and a sense of humour. as for making us look arrogant!. come out man, who are you. are you a christian with no sense of humour?. thats what i smell. lifes to short man, chill out. peace and love to all..
kram83au 7 months ago
@kram83au Hahahahaha, yeah sure. This BITING SATIRE was far too complex for me to understand I guess! Good one!
No, I am just concerned that these kind of videos look like they were made by psuedo-intellectual elitists, and subsequently make other atheists look the same. These videos should be here to convince religious groups to re-think their belief system, but instead they simply feed the ego of the type of atheists that give us a bad name. It's pure masturbation!
FluffyPidgeon 7 months ago
I think I'm going to make one of these, except there's going to be a part where Jesus tells parents to kill their kids, because that's what he says in the Bible. ^.^
adrianaesque 7 months ago
great choice of music
xyoop 7 months ago
Ehhh. It's a good idea, but you could have done so much more with it. As it is, it looks more like an early draft than a regular TTA video.
TheQuinch 7 months ago
Classic, if the patient survive "thak good" but if patient died "doctor get all wrong" or better, doctors kill him... muchismia hipocresia
interceo 7 months ago
Shouldn't they be giving thanks to God for sending him to heaven, where he can now enjoy bliss?
Tinark 7 months ago
@Tinark That's exactly what I thought was going to happen. I thought they were showing passiveness/indifference as he died because he was going to the super-wonderful heaven and leaving this world behind, and would jump up in praise once he let out his dying breath.
Still loved it though!
TimmyCrackCorn 7 months ago
Shouldn't they be giving thanks to God for sending him to heaven, where he can now enjoy bliss?
Tinark 7 months ago
recently the catholic pope made an encyclical stating that science was not the, 'answer' for man but rather faith. he had a shot at anti-theist by also saying those who turn to science were turning away from God. My point?...you watch that old fuck get his arse to the best Doctors in Rome the moment he finds out he has cancer!! typical religious zealot..hypocritical in all that they do.
psycho3968 7 months ago
Personal relationship with reality, that needs to be a tee shirt.
Lynpgz 7 months ago
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@Lynpgz I think it already is on his site :)
CingerNebojsa 7 months ago
@Lynpgz It is
Unh0lySpectre 7 months ago
Brilliant!
Christians are so ridiculous! In the real situation, they probably would call the ambulance, which means that they're not really depending on "God' to heal you, but on "man made" modern medicine. smh
cyberbar20 7 months ago
Reminds me of the christian scientist parents who let their kids die from perfectly treatable/preventable illnesses
blue4arekkusu 7 months ago
Hey you should do a Part 2 and it would be the same, except for the end:
"What should we do call an ambulance?"
"NO! He's going to meet god now, let's rejoice!"
"YEY!!"
AtheismTV 7 months ago
Another very well done video. I would like to see a religious person use only prayer for themselves rather than use a hospital if they got sick. Of course I don't want to see anyone get sick but I would like to see how far their supposed "faith" would go. Like the old saying, put your money where your mouth is. LOL
agpjh 7 months ago
greatest video ever :)
takingflight81 7 months ago
This isn't a forum for you to argue.... The video was put here to explain the truth. No one cares what you believe.
lrebsaxet 7 months ago
I love how the statement "Atheists are normal people" is spammed. I guess doctors, scientists, atheists military personnel, etc. are not normal people... makes sense, they are extra special than theists, simply because atheists are smart enough to say that "This is ridiculous, cant believe this books are taken seriously".
Just shows how dumb people are, when they flag statements stating the obvious, but refuses to flag statements of extra-leap to fantasy land statements.
Crazy people
MaxBlight 7 months ago
That, or they would lose their shit with glee celebrating that their dearest friend went to heaven to live in a world of boundless joy forever:
"Oh my god! Larry is being called by the Lord! What a lucky fella'! Fly Larry, fly to heaven to infinite bliss! You deserve it, old pal! Send my regards to my grandma!"
kaminarigaston 7 months ago
@kaminarigaston , yes, dead on. This is what I always thought how christians would behave if they really believed. Shouldn't news of a terminal illness be handled more like opening an early christmas present? Why are they so glum when they realize they are going to heaven? :)
comeade 7 months ago
It strikes me as disrespectful to god to end sentences with "Eh, man"
n3rdm4n 7 months ago
I just noticed - and maybe this is intentional in some way - that the Atheist symbol at the end is shaped like the mirror image of the classic Star Trek star-fleet insignia.
mnkittel 7 months ago
Ci Amerykance i ich poczucie humoru...
Bascior10 7 months ago
Where does he get the sound tracks and that creepy intro sound effects???
Amazing.
napornik 7 months ago
God must be a total incompetent, he has to be told what to do by his worshipers.
EvenGodsSuffer 7 months ago
Classy!! Very nice.
Triangulations 7 months ago
The Lord shall not listen; the harlot wears lipstick, and we all know painting your lips is a sin.
Plus the men all shaved their sideburns; fer crying out loud, how do they even expect to get any answer to their prayers, when they so blatantly disregard God's law? I'll bet they plant wheat and barley in the same furrow, too...
StrikaAmaru 7 months ago
well. . . when u put it that way. . .
FuckJeffG0ldblum 7 months ago
oho look, another movie that tells us that god does not exist, orly? ur kinda late, I discoevered that when I was 9 years old, pretty much when I discovered that santa wasnt real aswell. so pathetic that hundreds of people keeps posting shit like this, we saw ZOMGcrits first, now everyone is following her.
odikqah 7 months ago
@odikqah stop watching them then? I'm thoroughly confused by you.
lilwestkid 7 months ago
@lilwestkid like you stopped involing yourself with hating on curch and christianity?
odikqah 7 months ago
@odikqah You are aware that YOU ARE NOT THE ONLY PERSON IN THIS WORLD RIGHT?
because this is the summary of your statement "Me, Me, Me, Me, Atheists at 9 yrs old, Me, Me, Me".
MaxBlight 7 months ago
@odikqah You're aware that the ideas of atheism have existed long before the internet, and certainly long before ZOMG, yes? The idea here that people who believe should only pray if they have such strong faith, is an old argumentl, and unfortunately one that has roots in reality. Why don't you take your head out of your ass long enough to grasp the some argument themes will be repeated because they are potent or effective and stop being a dick. Not everyone sees ZOMG, so he makes it a bigger net
dragonmatt5 7 months ago
According to the Bible,
If they had one grain of faith, they could heal the dude and for desert move a mountain. Some may try to say that the reciever or victim requires to have faith, when they do this say "away with thee satan" that is not what the bible says.
So why have they not cleaned out a major hospital in one day ... ever....
VideoAudioDisco09 7 months ago
The music at the end made the video totally bad ass.
MissDriz 7 months ago
wtfbbq
erlcly02 7 months ago
Haha I was thinking o making a multi-faith hospital..........a room for emergency, where doctor's use their million of years of studying to heal the patient and a room for "the faithful" where they can go and pray for cure. I think that is only fair, so religious people don't have to insult us health professionals when thanking someone else :)
ChicaLondres 7 months ago
This might seem as a joke to you but it has happened to someone i know who is a hard core pentecostal who was refused medical treatment by his congregation when he had an attack during Sunday service and all they did was pray . . . . . when my father came to know about this he rushed to church where the pastor insisted that no medical attention is required Since they prayed . . .my dad rushed him to a hospital due to which he survived.
Badjump101 7 months ago
@Badjump101
And i bet they claim it was the prayer that did it....yes..!!
VideoAudioDisco09 7 months ago
@Badjump101
Wow. Its amazing how far the crazies will go. This is why the rapture should happen.
drche420 7 months ago
POR FAVOR, ASSISTAM A ESTE VIDEO = cristiano em video ,É APAVORANTE!!
tr0llano 7 months ago
Loved it.
pdblouin33 7 months ago
ahahah
C0mm0nS3ns3 7 months ago
"Hey guys, want to sit here and watch this guy die?"
"Sure" "Yea" "Ok"
"Wait! This will get us nowhere... Let us pray."
AtheistHowie 7 months ago
the prayer worked, he was okay!!!!!!!
wwickeddogg 7 months ago
Well done. Good concept. Make more!
chiropra1 7 months ago
Alternately, you could have shown them rejoicing that their pal is on his way to the pearly gates.
bowlsallbroken 7 months ago
Earlier in the year as my mother and grandmother were getting ready to leave for a weekend at a bed and breakfast, mom tripped on the edge of the rug and hit her head on the door post. I ran to get ice while my grandmother stood there proclaiming, "Satan, we come against this in the NAME OF JESUS!" Wait, what? So the devil tripped mom? Oh I know, maybe the growing knot on her forehead was actually a demon setting up residence! What's wrong with these people??
kuaru 7 months ago
This video is deceiving. I see no dinner.
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Moreba 7 months ago
If you haven't already done so, could you please put "I have a personal relationship with reality" on a t-shirt.
philmajor08 7 months ago
Dinner party? Where was the dinner?
conundrum111 7 months ago
Sorry that us Atheist make fun of Christians (the gnostic ones, atleast), it's just, gnostic christians are such easy targets!
MarkJohansen123 7 months ago
Bravo to all those who called me ignorant and stupid. I'm glad you're so accepting of people. Continue to spew your hate, and I'll continue in my journey to be like Jesus, a man worth aspiring to be like. @verzen @delkar41 @cessnaaviator317 @diamondhide1994 @oliethefolie @tokenbabe @cakesnakefilms
bricookiefl6 7 months ago
@bricookiefl6 So you inspire to be like a man that said if you do not believe me you shall burn in hell for eternity? The morals of christianity are not those to aspire too!
stagehandbob 7 months ago
@bricookiefl6 - What? You fail to follow THE ONE TRUE PROPHET MUHAMMAD!? Away, SINNER, and BURN IN HELL!
LeksServices 7 months ago