Pat Buchanan on AntiwarRadio with Charles Goyette

[thomasg74]

I like Pat,but he is dead wrong on Hitler.Mein Kampf was written in 1925/26,Hitler laid it all out in Those Two Volumes that culminated in the finished article "Mein Kampf","Lebensraum "grabbed from the Slavs,His Plans for the destruction of European Jewry,Hitler also stated that the only Reason for standing armies is for the Ruthless exertion in War,He Was Rearming at a Mega Rate,Why?For Peace?,No Way Pat.

[Boldenberg]

@thomasg74 So that's why he made the Haavara agreement with zionists in 1933 to transfer jews to Palestine ?

[thomasg74]

@Boldenberg Hitler also signed a non aggression pact with the Soviets ,but that wasn't worth the paper it was written on,also the Munich agreement,all Bluffs to Win time for his armaments production,any "agreement" Hitler made with the Zionists would be only temporary and certainly the Zionists could not have envisaged the scale of the assault that would befall European Jewry in 1933,though it was obvious that Hitler had dire plans for both the Jewish people and the conquered slavs.

[chewbaca1989]

Pat Buchanan is a great American. WTF?

[procommenter]

[There is enough material in the world to clothe every man like a king and every woman like a queen. Moreover, nature is lavish, extravagant, bountiful, and wasteful. Look at the untold treasures in the bowels of the Earth, in the sea, and in the air that have not yet been tapped. From page 23 of "Psychic Perception: The Magic of Extrasensory Power" by Joseph Murphy (1971)]

[wonOnbi]

Excellent!

[profnasty]

The upshot is 'how much control does the Crown of England have over the government of the United States?' I'd say quite a bit. It IS the Fed Reserve you know. The so-called Rescue Package is just tribute to King Fed. More money for hook-nosed fatcat WallStreet Neocon Whores.

[yahwehdirtydog]

The American boobs have not only dug their own graves; they have dug a grave for all our race. But, to be sure, Jesus will give their ghosts an extra lollipop while their bodies rot in mass graves, so why should they worry

[CaptainObvious420]

Pat has a great way of taking a broader perspective on history. I highly reccomend his books.

[Mavrilon]

Okay. I will be more careful the next time. I wouldn't want to have Pat on my case.

[Mavrilon]

83WSS, I apolgise for clicking on a "negative" responce. I agree with what you said and I thank you for saying there things.

[partymariner]

That was a typo you nazi, anti-semite asshole...the fact that you "worked" for his campaign says a lot about Pat's following...Hiel Hitler...or Heil Buchanan!I suppose you want to gas the Mexicans now!

[tonylee1973]

No one wants to gas mexicans. Some of us believe that too many mexicans are entering the country illigal.(so corporations can pay them below minimium wage, which is exploitive of mexicans and americans. This is due to the cokehead in chief.)

[profnasty]

I work shoulder to shoulder with Mexicans. I can tell you, many of them have gas problems. Es verdad gringo.

[yahwehdirtydog]

Jewish life in Germany, prior to 1933, was an orgy of parasitic feastings upon the host nation. The plunder was checked with labor camps, which after the war were renamed 'death camps'. Which begs the question: would jews rather be caught dead than working? Ironically, the inscription over the gate to Camp Auschwitz "ARBEIT MACHT FREI" means "work will set us free

[HiGuy505]

@yahwehdirtydog how can you be an apologist for genocide?

[partymariner]

Sorry Pat, but Hitler was not about to "negotiate" with anybody...especially Poland...nor stop there! Hence the gargatuan military and its debut in Spain!The Germs clearly felt they were racially superior and entitled to liquidate slavs and who knows else to steal their land(living space) and resources(Baku oilfields)!He's right about the US empire however!

[chewbaca1989]

Your right Hitler was set upon expanding Germany power. He had no choice.

[partymariner]

Had no choice?! Are you one of those teen age douchebags that try to get a rise out of people by typing moronic comments!Pat is a known anti-semite who has degenerated into to being a Hitler appologist! Disgustingly false historical revisionism!

[partymariner]

apologist

[428cjet]

Don't be an ass, Buchanan is not a anti-semite unless you just believe the MSM NWO propaganda. Buchanan is an expert on historical facts, but lets talk about Prescott Bush and his financing Hitler - something that has been proven

[partymariner]

Your right about Prescot Bush and his Nazi ties, but this has nothing to do with the discussion!My argument is that Hitler had every intension of invading his neighbors and did so without provocation to carry out their evil agenda.The evil empire of the Soviet Union, which I do not defend, were the ones who "had no choice" in WWII.Had Hitler not invaded the USSR Stalin would have stayed within his borders to quell internal dissent!

[OfficialDarkKnight]

P. Bush had no "Nazi" ties. George W. Bush additionally, has his administration saturated with Israeli partisans. Real hardcore "Nazi" stuff right there. As per your argument, I would agree to an extent (Hitler did not keep his Eastern expansionist agenda a secret; it can be read in Mein Kampf). Hitler, however, would have been driven to war either way, due to pressure from England and the united forces of Western Capitalism -which Stalin was at the time eagerly exploiting to his own advantage.

[OfficialDarkKnight]

I'm sick of hearing about Prescott Bush. Large numbers of American financiers also financed the Bolshevik Revolution, as well as the subsequent Soviet Union. Does that all of a sudden make them Marxists? It's called opportunism. If there was any Western capitalist interest in fulfilling the goal of National Socialism our countries would not have united -with the Soviet Union, mind you- to wipe it -along with Fascism- off the face of the earth. Use your brain a little more, Alex Jones.

[chewbaca1989]

It's not revisionism. Germany under the Kaiser became a industrial powerhouse over night. By adopting the American economic model. You sir are ruled by the British Empire, the Anglo Dutch banking interests via the Federal Reserve, it is hellbent on Empire expansion through war. They don't give a fuck about you. They don't give a fuck about you. Neocons are a majority of Zionist maniacs. That anti-semite slur has gotten old.My brother is a Marine and he doesn't want to fight or worse for Israel.

[OfficialDarkKnight]

Germany did not adopt the American model. There were far stronger parallels between the Four Year Plan and Lenin's NEP, as well as certain aspects of the economy under Stalin. Germany had a regulated economy that was transitioning towards complete nationalization in the areas of large industry/big business (this being a set ideological principle). America, on the other hand, only implemented [somewhat] serious economic regulation for several years under the NRA, until it was disbanded.

[bamadawgsc]

My God, we have crossed the rubicon when a liberal like myself agrees with a right-wing nationalist like Pat Buchanan!!!

Get out of debt, invest in European, Asian Rim and Indian Stocks, keep 10% of your portfolio in gold, 10% in Euros, max out those IRA's, 401K's/403B's and hold on like a MF......we are headed for 3rd world status.

[428cjet]

Well if you follow Buchanan he has always been against War - Gulf, Iraq, Balkans etc. - lets not forget Pat ran against the sitting President (Bush 1) in his own party and nearly won in 92. He marched in Seattle against the WTO, he is against NAFTA, MFN for China etc, he is against the FED, would abolish the IRS - Pat is a true Maverick and 100% American.

[KaesoBrutus]

I love his work, but he didn't really come close in 92...he did well against a sitting President though.

[renaldo999]

Buchanan for president!

[wilburhog]

Why would a rich country like the U.S want to go in business with any poor country unless to rape their resources or acquire cheap labor and bring down our middle class and standard of living here. Bottom line: simply to serve rich and tear down the rest of what was American by blending us all into a third world nation. What better way to do that than flooding us with illegal immigrants from poor countries. Wake up America before its too late !

[highonhayek]

Buchanan is great on foreign affairs but that's about it. A protectionist conservative is a contradiction in terms.

[RohanRugby]

He's not a conservative.

[highonhayek]

And why's that?

[peace0ff]

because he left the pub party and has different views now.

[highonhayek]

You're pretty misinformed if you think that the Republican Party has a righteous monopoly on conservative ideology.

For example the Constitution and Libertarian Parties could be considered part of the "right".

[peace0ff]

um stupid, did I say that? yes there are still elements in the pub party that are conservative. but of course the neocons(jews) hijacked the party. neocons being ex trotskyites/communists. i.e. false opposition. the cultural marxists control both major parties now.

i voted for the cong. party actually.

[rollingRDC]

very smart interview i was laughing really hard when pat was saying how iran had no navy, a bad air force, no missiles, etch.... - "and they are going to destroy the US?"

[poopster111]

Pat is genius, I will buy the book and learn about the truth of wwII.

Go Pat Go!

Down with globalism!

Long live the Republic!

[Hesam0000]

Pat Buchanan is 60% right and 40% ignorant.

[bammbamm12]

That makes you 40% WRONG.

[Hesam0000]

Makes me 100% right because I've heard him mention wrong informations regarding Middle-East because he hasn't been there.His information is based on neo-conservative views!He calls America an Empire which is not,he ridicules Iran's power & laughs at the thought of "Iran crushing America" while his dollar value drops!He's ignorant about the fact that crushing doesn't only come in the form of bombing.Talks as if he's seen Iran's military &he's sad that Hitler & his "great industry" were stopped!

[bammbamm12]

Oink oink, Woof woof, meow. speak English if you know it.

[Hesam0000]

I'm speaking a second language lot better than you speak your first language. You can try human-language now.

[bighitter42]

First of all, Buchanan is not a neocon. He isn't the most free trade either though, some of his policies are pretty protectionary. Iran won't come close to being able to crush America in your lifetime. America may fall, but it will be of her own doing. He points out that the dollar is falling, he's totally right about history, and fairly right about what our future policy should be. No need for all the exclamation points bro. Your english is good, your perception of Buchanan is wrong.

[Hesam0000]

I didn't say he's a Neo-con,I said "His INFORMATION is based on neo-con views" meaning he gets his info from neo-con-controlled sources not personally from the neutral,international sources.Iran is not fighting America but you should know why you're paying $5/gal for gas,300% more for food & dollar is half in value.I watched Buchanan from the time years ago when he regularly made racial,anti-immigrant comments,now he's changed and he's joined the liberals but I still remember the real Pat.

[avdabr]

His "anti immigration" comments are always concerning ILLEGAL immigration, so that makes most Americans "anti immigration" I suppose. And he hasn't joined the liberals either. His stance opposing these interventionist wars are the epitome of conservatism.

[Hesam0000]

He works for extra-Liberal MSNBC.If you'd ever been an immigrant trying to move to United States yourself then you'll know why many just run across the border!

Legal visas are not given to many & for others it takes over 12-13 years waiting in long lines plus thousands of dollars of costs.The immigration system is BROKEN. US gov. intentionally lets illegals walk in to keep US lowpay farm/labor jobs filled.

His current stance is why I called him a reformed(60%) but ignorant(40%) conservative.

[avdabr]

I can sympathize with those who wish to come here, but that does obligate the US to welcome all comers. A sovereign nation should have the right to determine who can and cannot become a legal citizen, and moreover the will to implement it. We cannot be the boarding house for all who come here. And the only people who should be welcome as citizens are those who want to be Americans, not those whose loyalties lie elsewhere.

[avdabr]

ERROR ALERT: The above post should read "does not obligate" in the second half of the first sentence.

[Hesam0000]

Let me make it clearer. I wanted to come here, I was educated, single,a model citizen,ready to contribute to the society. I had just received my Accounting degree. It took me 24 years to become a permanent resident "Legally" ! meanwhile I lost the chance to become a CPA, to get married, to build my life doing an honest work. America is the land of immigrants, the only none-immigrants are "Indians"! the rest are 1st, 2nd or 3rd generation immigrants. Who's to say when they should stop coming in?!

[bighitter42]

Don't think I said they should stop coming in. They should do like you did and do it legally. I'm not even against letting more people in than we do already. We absolutely cannot waive the laws broken by illegal immigrants and say it's ok. I've been an American for eight generations....I think I can stop considering myself an immigrant. Moreover, my family did it legally. You don't think immigration laws were unfair for Italians and Irish? Wanna guess how many people got turned around?

[Hesam0000]

Yes,maybe immigration laws were unfair for the Italians & Irish but that was over 300 years ago.Now we're supposed to be a civilized country where everybody is given equal chance & opportunity.

Legal immigration?Do you think one can afford 24 years of life waiting to enter? & live but not work or be considered a full humanbeing until his retirement age?

I did it but missed everything else.If I could bring the years back I would fly back home the first year & live under our crappy government.

[bighitter42]

It was not 300 years ago. Late 19th century and early 20th century saw most of that immigration. I know how long it takes to enter legally, and that's all the more reason to dislike those who do it illegally, and screw the system. The legal route is terribly complicated and backlogged, and should be improved, no argument from me.

[Hesam0000]

If you ask me, they have to shoot anyone who crosses any country's border illegally. Because that's no better than spying or stealing, but when the US government allows people to pass the borders and simply drives them back to the border after they get arrested (as if it's a joke) then government should also give them the right to drive, work and be considered a resident.

To summarize my point:

Either shoot anyone illegally crossing the border, or,if you won't,give them rights when they cross.

[bighitter42]

They have rights, they just don't have the right to stay here or steal my benefits. Just because our government can't or won't secure the borders I'm to pay for them? I don't think so.

[Hesam0000]

If I was the chief, I would either shoot anyone crossing the border or eliminate all borders for good. In today's America, since Mexico's economy is still too weak to totally open all borders I would just shoot all border-crossers and arrest all others who got away and put in prison for 6 months. I'm a legal immigrant and I have no sympathy for cheaters specially when Immigrations laws to give legal visas are so screwed up and the process is so life-draining.

[bighitter42]

Ok, so it sounds like you agree with Pat at least a little. I wouldn't go so far as to say they should be shot, I don't want to live in East Berlin. Enforcement could/should be tripled/quadrupled though. If they would let the states do it, I'm sure the Texas Guard and California Guard if there is one, could and would help a lot.

[Hesam0000]

Like I said "He's 60% intelligent" so I agree with 60% of what he says :)

The difference between shooting border-crossers in Berlin and here is that in Berlin they also wouldn't allow legal immigration but I'm for fast, easy-process, lowcost legal immigration with strict pre-qualification based on skill, language, background-check, something like Canada. And shoot or imprison the border thieves/drug dealers. After 10 days illegal crossing drops by 95%.

[bighitter42]

I know, but without a fence or apparent boundary it becomes murky. There are state parks along the border, people get pretty close...you'd have to use imminent domain and confiscate a lot of land.

[bighitter42]

Can we agree that Pat is right about WW2?

[Hesam0000]

2 simple 8' fences within 100 yards of eachother with a sign on the first fence that says "You'll get shot beyond this fence unless you're an American border patrol"(in English and Spanish) will definitly be sufficient.

[bighitter42]

Perhaps that would work, I don't think it would fix the root of the problem which is services for illegals. I guess you agree with Pat on policy, just not his reasoning?

[Hesam0000]

Not really. If the US government is not willing to treat them as criminals which they are, then it has to treat them as regular citizens which they aren't.

At the least they should have permission to get drivers license, insurance and a way to earn a living so they don't have to steal or sell drugs. And their kids need school, but no government benefits.

But gov. says: "Do our dirty jobs and get out" till tomorrow!

[bighitter42]

I completely understand why I'm paying 4 dollars a gallon. You're already paying 5?

I agree with him on illegal immigration and on our empire. His reasons for stopping illegal imigration are a little racist. I think you and I agree on most things, I just misread your initial post.

[Hesam0000]

Diesel is already $5 in California and other states are getting there. By the time Bush leaves office the oil will be around $165/barrel and regular unleaded gas at $5 nationally. That's assuming he doesn't drop any bombs over Iran!if he does the price of gas wouldn't matter as much anymore.

What empire?The Persian Empire? :)

Empire:"a major political unit having a territory of great extent or a number of territories or peoples under a single sovereign authority"

With Puerto Rico US has 2.

[bighitter42]

Ah...the peoples republic of california. Modern empires aren't run like the Roman Empire. You don't think all of our puppet governments count? You don't think the billions of dollars we send overseas count? You don't think the fact that we have military obligations for about half of the world counts? We're five percent of the world and yet we're responsible for the defense of Europe, much of South America, South Korea, I can go on and on. You really think these countries can do whatever?