Mabinogi Enemy Strat: How to fight Ogre Warriors

[XxTheLalaAuburnxX]

Is the Mythril Mine ogre similar to this ogre? I heard they're different, but not HOW different.

[TommyBlade147]

wat lvl of total can u defeat it cause i died at like total lvl 88

[emovolumousy]

Good strat..but I'v only gotten there by my self once and defeated one by multiply using smash on him not giving them a chance to get up *lol'd evilly the hole time*....once. o.e

[KoronofHearts]

Thank you, so Fire-Counter is the trick, hm? All right. I guess I gotsta Lightning Counter...I never learned Firebolt D:

[ElreyLibra]

wow nice video just wish i saw this over a year ago would have been really helpful

[BattyAffie]

Thanks for posting this. I'm near the end of G2, and haven't been able to get past the Mythril Mine quest. Now that I know how to kill it, I might be able to finish the dungeon. ^.^

[xXBornToGameXx]

@BattyAffie god I hate Mythril mine, I'm stuck on the same part as you.

[magebro01]

@xXBornToGameXx

Thats how im watching this vid, cant beat mithril mine boss.

[MetalGearRaxis]

thanks so much for all this ^_^ I was worried about the Mythril Mine, but now I think perhaps I have a chance.

[vanchark]

tyvm for the tips it will really help alot :D

[DiLPickeLz]

...

Smashmill for the win.

Or FB and have a friend IS after the explosion =)

Both of those probably aren't the best ideas but they ARE fun.

[mega17]

@LipsOfVenomousPoison

1. Crit doesn't double damage until rank 7.

2. Not everyone can get Thunder right away.

3. Firebolt is much more handy

4. Thunder wastes a ton of MP, not good for Multiple Ogres...

Your comment doesn't help anyone watching this video.

[Patfatty4]

im doing ogre warrio myth mine... what level and total level should i be to go fight the ogre warior i try like 10000000 imes its too hard lol oh and can u use fh on it? please help its too ahrd lol D:

[miroku1902]

just use fire counter cause i used fh hit on it and it only took about 15% of it health then owned me

[wassup7210]

Can you use FH on an ogre Warrior?

[mushroomfart]

this video really helped. I am doing mythril mines for g2 and i tried to kill the ogre with my ego bow and i failed.

[robertflash007]

Wow your good xD

[Hotgreensolder]

yheah but if u have gladius and a high level he'll probably take like half ur hp if that happens.heavy stander almost never works on me exept that hardest dungeon one? with the gouls and whites

[Hotgreensolder]

not its when he starts usin pund hold shift to walk and release when he is done....

[Hotgreensolder]

thats why if hge gets close press esc and hit him with a combo

[breakmaster50]

wow great video im going to try this out and see if i can do this

[digimonlover6000]

or u can push mbackspace

[LevantineFox]

Hm.... Need help killin' Orge Warriors... :3

[randomsmallz]

lol thx for this, only problem is i spent my AP on wm right b4 i watched this vid XD lmao

[hyr0gl1ph]

You guys should be fine with a r-F firebolt with around 100 mana and 10 30MP refills... =/ Either way, I never really had much trouble with Ogre Warriors even at much lower levels.

[Hotgreensolder]

MESSAGE TO GOLEM AND OGRE WARRIOR SLAYERS

guys if u hold shift u will walk and when they pound the will not hit u unless ur very close to them or use meditation (makes u walk)def(makes u walk too)

i reccomend using shift the most since it doesnt do anything hope this helps oh ya how come u have rank F firebolt and u took half health from it in 4 bolts?

[KissChad]

just fight them... lol

[Ciaxs131]

does this work with ice?

[meirus]

Nope. Ogre warriors have Mana refractor, which reduces damage from magic attacks, and in the case of lightningbolt and Ice, shrugs them off entirely

[leeron111]

hmm...i like the way you fight but isnt it a little risky? i mean when you used fire you took steps foward ignoring that they might use pound. i mean the way i fight them is use firebolt take a couple steps back and counter. that way they couldnt hit me with pound and had no choice but to hit or smash me so the counter goes into play. fire,step back, counter,rinse, repeat. sounds effective no? :D

[kakash274]

does thunder work??

[MaUsAr17]

You need to have a bunch of mana though for 5 ogres. I would take a bunch of MP Pots and Stam Pots for counter.... Im doing mythril dungeon the second time and this will come in handy( the first time i spammed smash with my pets. took me 5mins to kill it with 5 pets and I had 6mins left at the end)

[HarpiiKlondic]

Too true, firebolt drains mana at any rank. At F, you're going to take awhile, which means more charges, and at my rank 4, I eat double the mana per charge, which comes out with a similar total mana use. Plus, I get lazy at rank 4... I just spam since I charge faster, which means even more mana needed.

[deathwalker8000]

ok ty for that im going to do mythril and theres only one and 2 imps so ok

[meirus]

It's just too bad it took such a nauseating time to finish.

[ChiisaiRamen]

The video is meant for newcomers, teaching em how to beat it not how to beat it fast, they dont have rank 5-1 windmill with a fully enchanted and proffed dual weild weapon to use so they can beat it in 30 seconds

[Flame123121]

of course that doesn't work if you're not an archer... but if you are its fun :D

[Flame123121]

i just no justice and spam them with arrows up close, it works with any transformation and is alot more effective

:3

[HarpiiKlondic]

It doesn't work with Falcon... I got one hit KO-ed by an ogre warrior at full hp and transformed.(Though I was at low ranks on all transformation skills.)

[robloxplox]

very nice

but my way its just to spam magmun shot cuz they dont got natural shield :D

BUT IF YOU MISS A SHOT U WILL DIE

[casechesse]

roblox magic nevr misses :P

[Klngd0mHearts]

can u also do this with rank f icebolt instead of fire?

[ChiisaiRamen]

no, ogres have mana refractor, your ice bolt will not stun them

[shyugotenshi]

okay you only used one charge though it would be possible to use the same strategy with 5 charges the first time right?

[ChiisaiRamen]

yes of course. But unless your firebolt is high ranked its reallyjust a waste of mana as it will most probably just do less than 10 damage

[shyugotenshi]

Mine is A soon to be 5 as rebirths became free!

[Darkboy132]

Erm when i tried using 1+Counter on the Ogre Warrior when it tried to use its "Stomp" on me, the Ogre killed me before my counter could completely load. Any idea where it went wrong now?

[ChiisaiRamen]

check your weapon, it has to be something that has good stun

[Darkboy132]

Erm it was a DW Hooked Cutlass. Another time was when i used a 2H Sword.

[fruitnogi]

slow latency?

i can (usually) do mine with slow or very slow weapons.

[Darkboy132]

Cutlass his Slow. 2h Is Slower. I did both but they couldnt manage to perform 1+Counter

[OwONarutoOwO]

i hav rank 1crit And Wm but im mostly archer rank 1 Ar and r1 range :o

[matrixpachi]

actually u dont really need to charge fire again cause when standing still or walking u dont get hit unless youre really close to it

[ChiisaiRamen]

Pound/Stomp is very unpredictable when it comes to range, my technique ensures that you are ready to stop pound or stomp the best way possible.

[littoSassa]

Hmm~ this gives me an idea how to attack them now hehe~ but i think i should practice more on normal ogres first.. they react like the same way as an ogre warriors right?

[ChiisaiRamen]

not exactly but yes its a good practice i suppose since its mostly similar

[littoSassa]

oh ok~ but my counter is rankC do you think it should do the thing?

[ChiisaiRamen]

even F works. It makes little difference

[tylerrox1011]

Rank 9 wm cant kill ogre in 2-3 shots unless there avg. damage is high and cri all 3 times

[ChiisaiRamen]

exactly. Hence why i said given you can kill em that way. Otherwise windmilling them is just lazy and gets you killed

[darkbladesx5]

dude what is your counter rank?

[ChiisaiRamen]

rank 9

[UekiTomohira]

This is very useful thx for the upload :D

[cometpikatoon]

are orge warriors stronger then giant orge?

[Darkboy132]

Isnt r9 Wm Spam also effective on Ogre Wars?

[ChiisaiRamen]

given you can kill em in 2-3 windmills. Otherwise the risk is too high

[Darkboy132]

I thought 2 or 3 hit kills on Ogres were impossible? Unless it was rank 1 or something...

[Jesses001]

I also recommend fully charging firebolt for the first shot when ussing this method. each charge after the first costs less mana per charge, and also increases the damage more each charge, so 5 charge firebolt does the damage of about 6.5 charges. The only exeption to this is if your enemy has the highest rank mana reflector, in which case only a high rank firebolt would cause any damage. I think ogre warriors have level 2 mana reflector. Thank you for the very good instrutinal video.

[msticstar123]

to those who have pets anthoer way is pet missle hard to learn turst me

[Darkboy132]

Umm what if your in a situation when your running and the Ogre Warrior is chasing you and you cant do anything exept run. What do you do?

[ChiisaiRamen]

you use a bomb

[Darkboy132]

Y dont you normal attack it? I mean that Blunt is considered a "Very Slow" weapon right?

[ChiisaiRamen]

because that's not guaranteed

[Darkboy132]

But thats pretty much your only option if you dont have any bombs.

[ChiisaiRamen]

run away till it unaggros

[Darkboy132]

I think thats pretty much impossible because its speed is quite faster than yours.

Getting trapped just makes it much much worse.

[ChiisaiRamen]

Ive outran them before.

I dont give advice I never tried myself before =/

[Darkboy132]

Oh i see. Hahaha.

Human Outruns Giant. :D

Btw, since its G3S4, are you aiming for Dark Knight?

[ChiisaiRamen]

Giants are faster than humans but since ogre wars walk zigzaggidy it gives you a chance to outrun

also Im already a chaos knight

[Darkboy132]

Hahahaha.

Gratz. Are you gonna try to be InfraBlack? (R1 Chaos of Order)

[ChiisaiRamen]

no. I will stop at r2

[Darkboy132]

Why dont you just smash it in defense? I heard alot of people tell me to do that.

And isnt it a risk waiting for it to pound on defense? I mean like what if it just normal attacks?

[ChiisaiRamen]

because smash loads slow and ogres can cancel anytime they want.

They usually pound after defense, its very rare they just normal.

The thing is, its a situation that shouldnt really happen if youre doing the tactic perfectly. I only deliberately did it in the video for instructional purposes.

If you really wanna smash it, just firebolt it instead, much much safer

[Darkboy132]

Thats a nasty trick.

You just want people to get better at fighting the Ogre Warriors huh? They are a pain.

I dont plan on smashing it cause that'll be a pain. Other people are telling me to though

[iMentoz]

Whoa!! Very nicely done. Man I should have seen this video long time ago >_>( died like 8 times in from Ogre Warriors >.>) Anyway um what kind of weapon are you using and what Rank is your counter? Would it be possible for me to do this with rank F counter and rank F Fireball?

[ChiisaiRamen]

my counter is 9 and im using a Fox Deadly Fully Upgraded 2 handed sword.

Its possible to do this with rnak F counter, rank F fire, and any weapon with a decent stun

[Darkboy132]

I feel like an idiot asking so much questions...

My apologies ChiisaiRamen, but i'm just a noob at this game...

[ChiisaiRamen]

I dont mind answering questions no need to apologize

[Darkboy132]

Mabinogi really has nice community. Thank you.

[Darkboy132]

I have another problem. Whenever i try to "Seperate the Distance", i take a few steps forward, put up counter, then walk back a bit.

What did i do wrong?

[ChiisaiRamen]

dont walk back. walk forward and counter. Period

[Darkboy132]

I'm not trying to. When i walk forward, i put up counter then the AI walks back.

[ChiisaiRamen]

thats lag, you need to walk forward a little bit more

[Darkboy132]

Ya know, Cyclops and Ogres dont have the same AI. Thier "Pound" hits even at a farther range.

Today i tried to do Rundal and i got to the boss. I tried to the the "Fire Loop Counter" thing and it didnt work cause the Cyclops killed me.

Do you know what went wrong?

[ChiisaiRamen]

hrmm well to clear it up first what do you mean by fire loop counter?

[Darkboy132]

To me, thats what you did in the video. Or whatever.

[Darkboy132]

Ya know, hit it with firebolt until it normal attacks. Kinda like looping over again.

[ChiisaiRamen]

cyclops has further reach and youll need r9 firebolt if you want to use this against him

cyclops can be ice countered, just use that.

[Darkboy132]

Isnt that evil?

Doesnt the cyclops have Mana Refractor?

[Darkboy132]

Hmm is it the more powerful your weapon is, the more longer the stunning?

[lytrigian]

I usually like to pull them into the room before the boss room, just to be absolutely sure I won't multi-aggro, but that doesn't leave enough room to use this approach. Clearly better than mine, since to avoid the pound I need to cancel my counter and step out of range, and that almost never works. On the other hand, I can easily see myself losing track of how close the other OWs are during a fight and getting mobbed.

[lytrigian]

Why I don't interrupt the pound with a slash as you recommend here I put down to idiocy on my part.

[ChiisaiRamen]

heh its not idiocy, its just instinct.

Its very much possible to try to run out of its range, but you have to stop moving when its about to bring its hammer down.

The range of pound that hits moving targets is amost size of half the boss room while its regular range isnt that big.

[Darkboy132]

Question: What should you do if the Ogre stops a couple feet infront of you instead of right infront of your face?

[ChiisaiRamen]

Do the same thing.

Its not fool proof if they stop a couple of feet in front of you, you arent distancing yourself with them properly.

So first and foremost try to avoid making it do that.

[iDrawdE]

Have you disabled the nagle algorithm to do this?

[ChiisaiRamen]

yes i have

[Darkboy132]

Does this also work with the regular ogres?

[ChiisaiRamen]

I havent tried but it probably whould

[Darkboy132]

Yeah it works. I tried it in my own video with the regular ogre :P

[Darkboy132]

Oh and what if they use heavy stander when they stop infront of you? Thats a problem because they will probably attack you right after.

[ChiisaiRamen]

It happens rarely that I never even encounter this situation. My guess is that if its using pound or stomp if you want to call it that, they cannot use heavy stander.

even then this is an emergency tactic. You arent supposed to let them stomp in front of you, thats the reason why you run forward before countering.

[Darkboy132]

Right. Excellent work slaughtering the fattys.

[Darkboy132]

I have a question: I hit it with my Fluted Short Sword (I know the thing is weak but it has very good balance) when it was using that pound thing and on my 3rd hit, it's Heavy Stander activated. Do you think anything went wrong?

[ChiisaiRamen]

only hit it once when it pounds then activate counter.

The more hits you do the more you risk yourself engaging its PD.

Also fluted short doesnt have enough stun to make that work so find a bastard sword if you want a balance sword or an upgraded mace

[Darkboy132]

Right. I see. Thank you.

I dont like using Basterd. It has a swearing name and it bugs me. Should i use a Broad?

[ChiisaiRamen]

Broad is very good but it has very low balance and high min max range. WHich means you better have really high dex (150+) to make it do some decent damage

[Darkboy132]

Well i have a hatchet as a backup weapon. Do you think that would be better?

[ChiisaiRamen]

its not a very good choice of a weapon but i think it will have enough stun to perform a 1+counter.

[Darkboy132]

What weapon should i use? Sorry if its too much to ask...

[ChiisaiRamen]

Buy a Stiff Fierce Mace from people it should only cost 10k if you want a 1 handed weapon

[Darkboy132]

Thanks but i preferr using Swords rather than Maces. How about a Gladius?

[ChiisaiRamen]

Gladius' best upgrade sequence needs pretty high dex too.

[Darkboy132]

Why do i need more dex?

[ChiisaiRamen]

because those weapons have low balance along with high min-max range.

Without high dex it doesnt matter if the max damage is 71 fore example in a broad sword. With the low balance you have you will most likely will be hitting for the lower end of it 10-20 damage

[Darkboy132]

Doesnt the Gladius have like 60% Balance with a high min-max range? Why do i still need dex for higher balance?

[ChiisaiRamen]

you have to look at upgrade options.

its best damaging upgrade option requires balance.

If you want to upgrade it with balance then youll lose out on damage

[Darkboy132]

You messed up in your detailing a bit. The skill that they use when they smash the floor with their hammer is called Stomp not Pound. Also i heard it can hit you out of range while your moving. Perferically you just need to stand still when their doing stomp unless their infront of your face.

[ChiisaiRamen]

doesnt matter what the kill is called, I call it stomp if its a golem cuz it stomp and i call it pound for ogres cuz they pounds.

Yes it hits outside its range but that is only if you are running. So that isn't a concern. Even if you slow yourself to a walk you wont get hit unless you are in its real range.

[crazypete3]

i have to do barri 2 times under 2 hours =( hope i make it

[ChiisaiRamen]

should be easy.

skip as much as you can, if you dont have to fight to be able to go to the next room, dont.

If there are mimics load your windmill, hover your mouse over mimics. The one that is a real treasure box that has a key, the cursor should become X.

Good luck

[crazypete3]

i got all the way to the end at the boss u have 1 ogre warrior and 2 imps instead of 6 ogre warrioirs, but i got the warrior down halfway health and the time ran out =/

[skyjlv]

Some of these were able to be hooked up because you got a rank 9 or 5 (?) Firebolt ?... Not to mention most people usually just have rank F...

[ChiisaiRamen]

no its not rank 9. My firebolt is rank F. Despite being a mage imho firebolt is fine at rank F.

Ill up it to 9 for speed much later on.

[skyjlv]

What. Boo no musics

[skyjlv]

booo no musics T~T