One needs only read the original writings of Marx himself to see that death on a genocidal scale is an intrinsic part of Marxist "thought." In fact, in the original writings of Marx he talks extensively of the need to exterminate whole classes & even entire nations b/c they will be congenitally "reactionary." As Russians were mostly peasants, they would mostly simply need to die. The contempt Lenin & Stalin & the whole lot of them had for peasants is clear. They were just faithful disciples.
Lenins response to the help America delivered was a "lack of transportation." He sure could move men and weapons around when needed though. In fact the US fed 15 million people and innoculated 8 million. So much for the workers paradise; it was in every negative sense of the phrase a "dictatorship OVER the proletariat." Bolsheviks cared for the working class to the degree that they could plunder them.
Yes, Lenin was a great killer too. Little wonder Stalin employed the same tactics some decade later what with the desired results Lenin rendered. Deniers of this famine and the Holodomor are akin to Holocaust deniers, sad examples of communist goodwill?
:( russia was in control of a communist government, and it wasn't because they all wanted communism it was because life in the tsarist regime was worse than a "workers paradise",
And yet you can still visit Lenin's tomb in Moscow. Though in the most recent Victory Day Parade in Red Square the Russians blocked the view of Lenin's tomb so camera's couldn't see it in the background. My understanding was the U.S. offered aid but Lenin wouldn't agree to the demands placed by the USA.
The starving and hunger would not happen if the bolsjevik jews not have stealed gold from tibetans and bought all the food and only shared with jews.Often in europe before as in USA today groups of jews cooperate to take all the money in countries over to jews only and nearly no money to others that not are jews.Nearly all starving and hunger in the world would never happen if groups of jews had not think only about themselves. Groups of jews are the only that cooperate to be richer than others
The three sides of the russian civil war would often steel home-grown crops and livestock from the citezens, so naturally they tried to grow their food seecretly. vladamir lenin, the dictator who had just made a communist society out of Russia refered to this as "sabotoge. He ordered that all food and resources be seized from civilians and so began the famine of 1921.
The US sent aid. But these people didn't die because of a lack of aid. They died because of the communist government's economic policies and because of the civil war.
You need to study European history more, and should not rely on Wikipedia too much.
Yes, US sent aid immediately, but not as much as one in Berlin Blockade which had huge strategical importance. US stopped aid and lifted economic closure after Russia asked LN aid. With out Fridtjof Nansen's work and Canadian mercy, the things might go worse.
Actually it is the work of the evil mass murderers who wants to decrease the population of Ukraine so that no future rebellion will emerge again and that their race will be more than Ukrainians. Why is that only Ukraine had the famine that is so deadly during that time that 7 millions died and it happens only when the soviets control their country and also it happens during peace time and not in world war 1 or any other war?
That would have depleted the food supply of other areas. After years of climatic problems and frequent bombardment, the land could no longer sustain its population. Forced collectivization and side effects from the rapid industrialization exacerbated the situation. Old grudges between Ukraine and Russia plays a part in how things are interpreted. Sure there was a major blunder, but most governments usually fail miserably when faced with a catastrophy of unimaginable dimensions. No genocide.
And if the US was starving, if allowing a free market and the 'expropriation of the proletariat' (or whatever) had caused a great famine (for the profit of the mythical expropriators in VOLUNTARY exchange, no doubt) then I somehow doubt that the USSR would have sent a mite of aid unless they planned to conquer the USA and coerce it into Communism and Marxism and 'public' ownership of the means of production
The starving and hunger would not happen if the bolsjevik jews not have stealed gold from tibetans and bought all the food and only shared with jews.Often in europe before as in USA today groups of jews cooperate to take all the money in countries over to jews only and nearly no money to others that not are jews.Nearly all starving and hunger in the world would never happen if groups of jews had not think only about themselves. Groups of jews are the only that cooperate to be richer than others
The starving and hunger would not happen if the bolsjevik jews not have stealed gold from tibetans and bought all the food and only shared with jews.Often in europe before as in USA today groups of jews cooperate to take all the money in countries over to jews only and nearly no money to others that not are jews.Nearly all starving and hunger in the world would never happen if groups of jews had not think only about themselves. Groups of jews are the only that cooperate to be richer than others
One needs only read the original writings of Marx himself to see that death on a genocidal scale is an intrinsic part of Marxist "thought." In fact, in the original writings of Marx he talks extensively of the need to exterminate whole classes & even entire nations b/c they will be congenitally "reactionary." As Russians were mostly peasants, they would mostly simply need to die. The contempt Lenin & Stalin & the whole lot of them had for peasants is clear. They were just faithful disciples.
VictorLepanto 1 month ago
Lenins response to the help America delivered was a "lack of transportation." He sure could move men and weapons around when needed though. In fact the US fed 15 million people and innoculated 8 million. So much for the workers paradise; it was in every negative sense of the phrase a "dictatorship OVER the proletariat." Bolsheviks cared for the working class to the degree that they could plunder them.
chickenwretch 1 month ago
Yes, Lenin was a great killer too. Little wonder Stalin employed the same tactics some decade later what with the desired results Lenin rendered. Deniers of this famine and the Holodomor are akin to Holocaust deniers, sad examples of communist goodwill?
chickenwretch 1 month ago
:( russia was in control of a communist government, and it wasn't because they all wanted communism it was because life in the tsarist regime was worse than a "workers paradise",
alessan789 2 months ago
Slava Rusiji !
banostor 8 months ago
Aw, the poor shits, why they go so hungry, there's plenty of food to go around, but not for them REDS! :(
genxxxersize 9 months ago
This was the result of the banskters...no one else
northwestblazinfire 11 months ago
And yet you can still visit Lenin's tomb in Moscow. Though in the most recent Victory Day Parade in Red Square the Russians blocked the view of Lenin's tomb so camera's couldn't see it in the background. My understanding was the U.S. offered aid but Lenin wouldn't agree to the demands placed by the USA.
notausertoday 1 year ago
The starving and hunger would not happen if the bolsjevik jews not have stealed gold from tibetans and bought all the food and only shared with jews.Often in europe before as in USA today groups of jews cooperate to take all the money in countries over to jews only and nearly no money to others that not are jews.Nearly all starving and hunger in the world would never happen if groups of jews had not think only about themselves. Groups of jews are the only that cooperate to be richer than others
honnnesty 1 year ago
wow! fuck you Lenin
lovatolover8201992 1 year ago
The three sides of the russian civil war would often steel home-grown crops and livestock from the citezens, so naturally they tried to grow their food seecretly. vladamir lenin, the dictator who had just made a communist society out of Russia refered to this as "sabotoge. He ordered that all food and resources be seized from civilians and so began the famine of 1921.
ledzeplin101 1 year ago
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astreza 2 years ago
Then then had to resort to eating eachother. Gosh, Socialism/Communism is so smart...
mustardchimney 3 years ago
The US sent aid. But these people didn't die because of a lack of aid. They died because of the communist government's economic policies and because of the civil war.
nospam3001 4 years ago 2
You need to study European history more, and should not rely on Wikipedia too much.
Yes, US sent aid immediately, but not as much as one in Berlin Blockade which had huge strategical importance. US stopped aid and lifted economic closure after Russia asked LN aid. With out Fridtjof Nansen's work and Canadian mercy, the things might go worse.
booboowambotube 4 years ago
Actually it is the work of the evil mass murderers who wants to decrease the population of Ukraine so that no future rebellion will emerge again and that their race will be more than Ukrainians. Why is that only Ukraine had the famine that is so deadly during that time that 7 millions died and it happens only when the soviets control their country and also it happens during peace time and not in world war 1 or any other war?
jemjemzms1 3 years ago
That would have depleted the food supply of other areas. After years of climatic problems and frequent bombardment, the land could no longer sustain its population. Forced collectivization and side effects from the rapid industrialization exacerbated the situation. Old grudges between Ukraine and Russia plays a part in how things are interpreted. Sure there was a major blunder, but most governments usually fail miserably when faced with a catastrophy of unimaginable dimensions. No genocide.
lektrum 3 years ago
Well how do you explain the report that during that time grain exports from Ukraine during that time was so high.
jemjemzms1 3 years ago 2
What report? Who wrote it?
lektrum 3 years ago
So what exactly was incorrect in what he said?
And if the US was starving, if allowing a free market and the 'expropriation of the proletariat' (or whatever) had caused a great famine (for the profit of the mythical expropriators in VOLUNTARY exchange, no doubt) then I somehow doubt that the USSR would have sent a mite of aid unless they planned to conquer the USA and coerce it into Communism and Marxism and 'public' ownership of the means of production
Go Comintern, down with evil Capitalists!
Nintendomanwill 1 year ago
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There has never been a famine in an industrialist capitalist country.
simontimon2 1 year ago
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The starving and hunger would not happen if the bolsjevik jews not have stealed gold from tibetans and bought all the food and only shared with jews.Often in europe before as in USA today groups of jews cooperate to take all the money in countries over to jews only and nearly no money to others that not are jews.Nearly all starving and hunger in the world would never happen if groups of jews had not think only about themselves. Groups of jews are the only that cooperate to be richer than others
honnnesty 1 year ago
@booboowambotube
And americans should have sent help to a bunch of brainless murderous russian communists because.
BENNYSIEGEL90 5 months ago
The starving and hunger would not happen if the bolsjevik jews not have stealed gold from tibetans and bought all the food and only shared with jews.Often in europe before as in USA today groups of jews cooperate to take all the money in countries over to jews only and nearly no money to others that not are jews.Nearly all starving and hunger in the world would never happen if groups of jews had not think only about themselves. Groups of jews are the only that cooperate to be richer than others
honnnesty 1 year ago
yuck
SheltonBenjaminrules 4 years ago