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  • Thanks for the information which is appreciated, hopefully more people like yourself will now come forward to reveal the way that Paypal operate.

  • Paypal is a corporation that has become to large and greedy to personnally deal with issues.I was a top rated seller for 4 years until one day i listed a item with ''no refunds unless item is broken'' so the guy faked it was broken so he could refund it and now i have to wait 3 months to recieve each payment!Its a crime!There stealing our money! There just as bad as the greedy basterds on wall street!

  • Paypal is a scam. I've been ripped off by Papal several times.Once i bought a book for $79. on Eba plus $35.shipping,but when i received the book,it was totally different book,then i filed a dispute through Paypal,but Papal made send the book back to the seller and paid another $45.shipping to Malaysia.However, the fucking seller refused that he got the book,so paypal closed the case the seller got the book and the money and i got screwed. Fuck Paypal.

  • Mind you, they're not FDIC approved; now how scary is that?

  • GO GRANDPA

  • boycott ebay!!

  • i had 20 charge backs lost them all, i had tracking number everthing they asked for lost,,i done a refund for 2000 pounds ,then pay pay took 2000 pound ? they said he never got the goods.. i know i done a refund because he used a stolen card before,you system did noy pick up the post code,,? why not we did, we phoned pay pay.they said its ok to send, joker,, we done refunfd, the asked if we could prove you done a refund ? yes we done it on you system fool..

  • Pay Pal should be reported to world commerce organization, for unfair abusive practices against its users

  • @josedro im doing something about their scams, might take some time but im gonna try to get the media to expose them

  • @PaypalIsFraud Sure!! I fully back you up. Whatever you need I'll help you to expose this scammers abusers who unfairly hold your money as they please. Should you need my testimonial signatures whatever I'll do it. Pay Pal ruined my business and my good name. Please let me know Regards

  • well i have no problem with paypal and ebay they have both been great with me ive had 2 problems one was i once baught a guitar that was fake and paypal got me my money back. and because the guitar was fake i didnt have to send the guitar back i got my refund and  kept the guitar. another problem was some one sold me a guitar that was faulty and i got a refund

  • @marycockburn1 Well your lucky.My account has been "under investigation" literally frozen by Paypal since 30/12/2008 as "punishment" for doing a "charge back" on an item I never received and never will

  • @marycockburn1 fuck paypal use nochex heres how youtube.com/watch?v=WEvMV_xKGl­0

  • @marycockburn1 YOU'RE ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE THAT SCAMS THE SELLER... I'VE HAD THIS HAPPEN TO ME A DOZEN TIMES.... FOR ITEMS THAT ARE IMPOSSIBLE TO EVEN COPY !!! BY ALL RIGHTS, IF YOU GOT YOUR MONEY BACK, YOU SHOULD HAVE SENT THE FAKE GUITARS BACK TO THE IDIOT... EVEN IF THEY'RE FAKE, THEY DON'T BELONG TO YOU BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T PAY FOR THEM.

  • paypalsucks(dot)com

    I will use Google Checkout in the future.

  • fuckoffpaypal dot com

  • JOIN US ON FACE BOOK ON

    Class Action Lawsuit against Paypal 2011

  • Rising fees might indicate dropping volume so maybe we see the signs of collapse. They seem to reject at least 50% of users, this can not continue that long...

  • 100% true. Got burned really bad!! They're mafia.

    Take the warnings seriously people!

  • Paypal is shit, its the only form of payment and they fuck up all the time, Constantly limiting accounts for no reason. Fuckwits

  • Join the club buddy! They are the biggest piece of shit company I have ever dealt with. Fuck them! Only we can shut them down and boycotting their asses is the only way to make them learn. If you own their stock, sell it now. Put these piles of dung out of business.

  • Paypal is the worst!!!

  • I'm honestly surprised that paypal has been able to go on for as long as they have. I have been a victim of their BS. When you mess with people's money they don't put up with that. I would love to know that amount that Paypal get's in interest from all of the accounts that they 'freeze' per year. Can't wait till a real competitor comes along to put those little fu^%ers out of business.

  • can anybody paypal me just $1 to punks111@internode.on.net thanks all

  • I think its time for us to really push to call out Pay Pal for what it is. This is happening to our company all the time. A Customer purchases Parts, receives the parts, then claims unauthorized use. The orders are brand New no complaints from the customer. They get to keep the order and the Money. This is happening all to often and its time to tell the world Pay Pal is not safe to deal with. This month alone we have lost over $7,000 US and its happening every month. Yes Pay Pal Sucks!

  • Use Ebid > Eliminate Paypal...

  • WARNING TO THOSE WHO USE PAYPAL, CLOSE YOUR ACCOUNTS, PAYPAL ARE PUTTING HOLDS ON USERS MONEY,WHEN YOU CONTACT THEM BY EMAIL THEY SEND ROBOTIC EMAILS BACK,INTERNET RESEARCH AS SHOWN USERS ARE BEEN RIPPED OFF WITH PAYPAL HOLDING THERE MONEY BACK FOR LONG PERIODS, SELLERS AND BUYERS HAVE HAD PAYMENTS STOPPED AND PLACED ON REVIEW, CHECK OUT ON YOU TUBE .

  • this is a no brainier, don't file chargebacks as fraud for non-receipt items

  • and the incredible currency convertion lie paypal does...they say they make the most actual convertion what is a complete lie.if you're a buyer and you will pay to a seller receives in different currencies,after you've paid just compare paypal convertion with the actual precise XE universal converter and you'll see the money difference they sucks.if you're a seller transfering money from paypal to your bank account in different currency after done use the XE and you'll see what they have sucked!

  • That really sucks, especially the customs and international delays. I am a seller on ebay, and though I feel sorry for your situation, I'm glad to see that they limit accounts. Until I saw this, I had no clue they did anything w/ chargebacks done by buyers. I can't beleive they limit an account on one instance and not on a pattern, they're being ridiculous in that respect.

  • @dmana3172 i managed to sam paypal out of money

    im on a negative balance on purpose and the seller got his money

    they, expect to get the money from me but i closed my bank account and relocated overseas nway lol

    haha got paypal

    beat them at their own game

  • I'm very upset with eBay/PayPal... I made a little video with the service rep on how they are upsetting me.

  • paypal took over 500 dollars from me

  • same hapened to me, i got an account in an online game, and i tried ti buy points, an error ocurred, it seems that it wasnt the games system that cras, but a problem with paypal, i went to my account and saw the transference pending, the money is on hold but i didnt get points, it said to try again, so i tried 2 more times,and the same error ocured,if they realese the money i could loose more points or wrost, they better be careful, this time their runing agains another coorporation, its turbine

  • Hmm... PayPal holds money for 21 days unless there is a dispute or until the seller ships the product right away to have it released early?????? I don't understand.

    The real dispute does not starts within 21 days while PayPal holds the money unless the seller ships the product. The real dispute starts within 45 days after the seller receives the payment and after the buyer receives the product. There's no excuse for PayPal to hold money for any reason. They do not have the right to do that.

  • Yeah and it gets worse, they dip the seller's account too. So whither it is a seller scam or buyer scam- paypal scams both sides. Paypal is Rotten, just rotten to the core!

  • Use GPal instead! it's much better than PayFail and it's cheaper. gpal . net

  • paypal have conned me so many times ive lost count now i open a new site called paypalsue com i will give them a good run twats they are

  • I Have a new site and intend to give paypal a run for the money and will be three times cheaper, my new payment system will be called AUCPAY ,keep your eyes peeled as aucpay will put paypal out of business because i am going to work very hard to do just that, remember AUCPAY in conjunction with BIDONLOTS AUCTION

  • After 2 years of business with paypal while running a business. Paypal is not safe. You don't need to worry about frauders as much as paypal themselves pulling fraud. They are ridiculous. Do not use paypal.

  • I wish I could hear you. My volume is at 100%, but the recording is too low.

  • I have a Pay Pal accot. and have always been current BUT I missed a payment by 2 day's and they hit me with a $39.00 charge for a $40.00 ,purchase, keep in mind I have spent over $2000.00 in two mounths and they didn't mind my payment for that!!!

  • The Better Business Bureau wants to here from anyone with problems with paypals or ebay

  • I have been on eaby and with paypal for 15 years and only have had 2 problems. I am now working more with Google Invoices then with paypal. May be Google will come up with a debit card or a way for sellers to accept CC.

    then it is good by to Paypal a fleebay company

  • They are good at protecting the Buyer if they start a claim before 45 days. However they will never protect the seller. You should always send the item insured. Then you can go after the shipper.

  • @JONSEREDdotWS I agree with you that the 45 days of dispute is good for the buyer. However, the 21 days of holding money is not where the dispute begins. It begins after the seller receives the payment into his bank and after the buyer receives the product. Then if something goes wrong, the buyer file a dispute not to get money back as the first option, but to give time for buyer and sellers to solve the problem. If they fail, then either the seller or PayPal refund the money.

  • Good advise what you say is all true! I have been selling on Ebay for almost 5 years and since they started the policy of holding the money they almost put me out of business in November... what is the government doing about Ebay and Paypal?? How come they are allowed to rip people off like this with their 4% fees each?? ALSO AMAZON IS DOING THE SAME THING SELLERS BE AWARE!!!

  • thnx for the tips i was about to get a pay pall acount.

  • good good tips

  • i hate them p*ss ants at paypal.... ripped me off for $2,500 in january 2010.... said they won't release my money for 6 months, for "security" concerns.... 100% feedback on ebay, and more than half my customer's on ebay have even called paypal to tell them they are wrong with what they are doing and they are happy with their purchases.. F paypal... fraud, criminal, embezzling weazles...

    my own bank said paypal is high risk, and if i had asked, they would of said withdraw out quick...

  • EBAY owns PAYPAL: I have sold on ebay for over 10 yrs, i have watched & read several of the comments here on youtube about ebay & paypal. Alot of you may not know, that ebay owns paypal; always have.

  • I hate ebay! Dont use ever!

  • Unfortunately I had to learn the hard way that Paypal are crooks. I was keeping 35 bucks in the account after I sold some stuff because I was going to turn around and spend it sometime that week on something. Too late, Paypal fucking froze it and kept the money. I've been filing all kinds of disputes for Internet fraud on Paypal's behalf yet nothing gets done. If anybody has any recommendations message me. Oh well, only 35 bucks

  • Good Luck! you wont win until we all boycott Paypal and Ebay! I will never use either ever agian... I had my accounts open for over 10 years with 100% rating.

  • How much money have you lost total? Luckily I figured out they are shitbags while I only had 35 bucks in the account. I heard some people have lost thousands of dollars. I really don't understand how they get away with it.

  • They say I owe them money and call day and night... They sent me to collections.

  • we need all to take the complain to trading standard and court,the only way to fight them back is the law as they hide in some countries that covers for them,so 1-do not use them,there r ebid,amazon,and much more,if all of use uses court then something had to be done even if we will pay more

  • paypal always uses morons who have no idea about anything more than keep your expensive call longer and they have no idea nor any authority to do anything,once you got in trouble and your money out thee is nothing you can do unless lots of proof and take them to court.the best do not use ebay or paypal they are own by the same crap both are thieves,they acting only to ripp u off.tell everone

  • Paypal should be careful, their whole business is run by a computer system...just think of the problems that can arise for them if they piss off a few hackers and computer program designers...

    ...and people thought the "666" virus was bad.

  • alternatives to ebay

  • Paypal unexpectedly charged 100 dollars to my bank account by accident ( I think ). And I only had 50 dollars in at the time. I had to pay 150 In charges. And Paypal only gave me 100 dollars back... Douche bags.

  • freedom to choose, and I choose not to sell anymore on ebay, because, I'm being forced to use electronic payment (evil paypal). The new rules suck, and ebay doesn't care about long term small sellers even with 100% positive feedback. EBAY DOESN'T CARE portugesepuppy

    The reality is coming

  • Ebay doesn't care whether your items sale or not. All they want is your money for listing and other fees plus paypal fees.

  • papal user agreement clearly states you need to file within 45 days so its your fault . just open up a new bank account and use it only for paypal. dont keep any funds in it. also always pay with a credit card so you always have a option to do a chargeback.

  • Original claim was filed within 45 day limit.Paypal chose to ignore the result leading to the credit card charge back.

    Paypal will not allow a new account on an IP address that has an outstanding claim.Alberta law clearly states ANY internet company that does financial transactions MUST close an account when asked to do so and MUST remove all personal information within 7 days of the request.Paypal states 180 days open to "investigate" which is clearly against Alberta law.

  • paypal pays you now douche bag, but you just wait. keep that account empty or they will empty it for you.

    read the THOUSANDS of tesimonials from paypalsucks and nopaypal COMS.

    paypal is thief, ebay is a snob unless youre Bill Gates or Buy-Com, etc

    Smoochy PayPal-Bay's behind, till they fart in your general direction.

  • Thanks for posting.

    Paypal is clearly not equipped to handle the sheer volume of complaints and inquiries they receive.

    People need to know that a machine or computer prgram likely decides their money's fate, likely a real human will never even see their emails.

    PP customer service reps are often rude & insulting by numerous reports & vids, also said to be hired through unscrupulous employment services clear across the world from you.

  • dont forget that all our jobs are FARMED out to INDIA, so there is NO shortage of listeners to complaints that PAYPAL creates and businesses they DESTROY.

  • Paypal has a bunch of little snot-nosed wet behind the ears people working for them, and they fancy themselves to be ganksters.

    (picture is in a video here on YT somewhere, also in ebay's very own documents)

    Pure ripoff artists IMO.

    You have to wonder how many hacked accounts phishing emails and chargebacks are inside jobs.

    ebay- Paypal is aware of that too, and they have mentioned the possibility of that in financial statements. But hey, why should they care? They make money on every scam!

  • Exactly right on.When I deal with a Bank or other financial institution it is Mr John Doe or Mrs Jane Doe.With Paypal it is Deborah or Johnathan no last name hiding behind a computer screen feeling really smug that we managed one more rip off.

  • upgrading to a premier account allows paypal absolute access to your bank account with full power to do as they please.READ your agreement it says exactly that.

    They are an unregulated financial institution that believes itself above the law.

    They are breaking both our consumer protection rules and our privacy laws in Alberta Canada with no impunity.This is a fact.

  • paypal sucks

    they are taking over the world

  • Paypal does suck but they aren't taking over shit.  In 5 years things will be very very different for paypal. I can't wait.

  • Toute fois paypal a débiter mon compte de l'équivalent de ce que

    vous m'avez verser je ne comprend donc pas pourquoi vous n'avez pas été

    remboursé.

    Le vais appel paypal lundi matin pour avoir des explications. Et je vous

    transférerai directement le montant de la vente lundi si vous avez pas reçu

    votre paiement.

    Je suis désolé de cette situation. Lundi soir tous sera réglé.

    Encore une fois, désolé et merci de votre compréhension.

    Salutations,

    Yvan

  • From the seller:

    paypal has withdrawn my account of equivalent of what you have paid I do not include/understand why you n' were not refunded. I called paypal Monday morning to have explanations. And Iwill directly transfer the amount from the sale Monday if you did not receive your payment. I am sorry of this situation. Monday evening all will be regulated. Once again, afflicted and thank you for your comprehension. Greetings, Yvan

  • Dear Rejean Thank you for contacting PayPal. We regret the delay in responding to your service request. We are disputing this chargeback as of 3/19/09 and must allow 75 days for your bank to respond. Please contact your bank for any questions or concerns as they are the ones that initiated the chargeback. I understand your frustration regarding this matter and regret any inconvenience it might have caused you. Sincerely, Deborah PayPal Chargeback Division
  • So my account remains frozen for a minimum of 75 days while they "investigate"

  • sorry thats a typo. there bad

  • i never thaught credit peaple were bad

  • Interesting stuff. I've only used PayPal a few times to send extremely modest donations to other YouTubers from time to time, using a credit card as payment, and haven't had any problems with them.

    Thanks for opening my eyes with your experiences, and I'll be very cautious in the future, if indeed I do deal with them.

  • If you use a check or money order you have no protection.Credit cards offer that protection.PayPal is fully owned and operated by Ebay and is heavily promoted as the ONLY way to purchase on e bay only allowing credit card purchases by going through them.

  • As far as I know you don't need to register a paypal account to buy something.

    As for the limits I never had that because I went right from personal account to business account.

    They would not stay the only option if more people would use some of the other processors.

    Also you can often send a check or money order to many ebay sellers.

    Good luck, your account should be unfrozen when they are done 'investigating'.

    - Heidi

  • It's now been ten months and the account is still "under investigation" and the E bay account is still "pending" paypal's investigation.

  • Terrible situation.

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