This is neat. I'm trying to think of a way to amplify a gramophone horn using a normal vinyl needle. I think the best way would simply be to use a turntables normal preamp output, wire it to a transducer, and attach the transducer to the diaphragm of the horn. Now i just have to find a gramophone horn.
Im still waiting to see someone actually figuring out a way to sense the groove waveform with the NXT sensors, and having a program that can output it to a speaker.
Your cup is way too heavy ! It will surely shred your new Monkees album! I'm telling Davy Jones. He and Peter Tork are gonna come over and rough you up!
Well the cup should be sideways, the information is encoded in sideway movements of the groove. There should be only tiny amounts of force on the record. This construction places lots of force on the record.
What's noteworthy is that the song we hear is without vocals. This is because this machine here tracks the height of the track which actually encodes the difference between left and right channels. As the vocals typically are on both channels, the substraction removes it.
I used a paper cone and sewing needle, then I taped it to my dad's old turntable. Every time the bass drum played, the arm would skip all over the place! I tried a paper cup and it was much better.
it was a Berg Sans Nipple record that my brother didn't want, so we used it. It had a really loud bass and made the cone skip. But thanks for the advise. My dad hooked up the turntable to some speakers and put a record needle on it. Now I can listen to vinyl :)
I have uploaded many hi-quality vinyl recordings of popular rock and pop bands. Click my username to hear them . Make sure you watch them in 'hi-quality' so you can fully appreciate how great vinyl can sound!
The way you have the needle in the cup is not correct for playing that kind of record. The cup should be on its side and the needle should be stuck in the side of the cup at a 60 degree angle to the record. The way you have the cup and needle set up now is to play a record where the recording is in the bottom of the groves when the recording is in the side of the groves in this record. When the reording is in the bottom it is called a vertical and in the sides a horizontal cut.
The arm hold most of the cup weight but the disk will be damaged after 50 times of use. A cactus thorn will solve the problem but the thorn needs to be replaced often.
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This is extremely cool. Concerning needles, an old wind-up gramophone collector showed me needles made from briar. He said they used to use them for a mellower, softer tone than steel needles. These were for old 78s, of course.
Thats pretty interesting however i can see and hear 2 problems. First, i can hear that your timeing is a little of remember that type of record needs to spin 33.5 times a minute to have the right tone. second your using a nail as a needle, that plus the weight of the cup is going to murder you records so dont play anything valuable.
33.5?? it dosent have to be played at this speed thats not the correct seed its most likly going to to be 45 rpm as it is an old record and it could if its relly that old be played at 75rpm but 33.5 is not correct its normally just 33 or 33.2
I think the napkin probably helps soften the treble and equalize the sound. The RIAA equalization curve (which is used for all records) boosts treble by 20 db before recording to record then electronically reduces it on playback to reduce surface noise (sort of like Dolby for cassettes). It also reduces bass on recording and boosts it on playback.
I could kick myself. I had original Monkees also Beatles- the one with the bloody meat &dolls on it. The warped and my mom threw them out. Got lots of 78's, though.
There is one problem here. The pin will damage the record as it is not a legitimate stylus. Can you find an alternative material as a replacement for the pin?
I recognize the first song heard on that record, i dont know the composer but that song was heard in a video game and i think i heard it on tv, and the very last song heard i think was covered or done by the beatles and re-cover in the 90s by smash mouth, the song is "I'm A Believer" am i correct?
No, is not the original version. This is the "piano version" of the Monkees. If I get the original version of the 60's, I will not play it on my Lwgo Phonograph.
I liked your Idea so much that I tried it out for myself!, I used a pin, cup, and K'nex parts, but I used a hand crank. And it works reasonably well!.
Don't worry, I purchased those disks just for fun. I know the disk are destroyed by the pin. On my website I clearly indicate it. This is only as educational purposes only.
By the way, using the pin, the disk is destroyed if the record is played more than 100 times approximately.
OMG... You are using a METAL pin as a needle! Even though the tracking weight on your plastic cup is only a few grams, you will eventually distroy the vinyl as the pin will scrape away the grooves!!! You may play 78 with a metal pin as they are made from shellac but not vinyl. I suggest that you stop playing vinyls records with a metal pin immediately to spare the disk from further damage.
See my video about playing a record without electricity, I have given a clear warning about steel pins.
JosePino knows this will damage the record. And you CANNOT play 78s with a metal needle either. They are more durable than vinyl to groove wear but still are degraded by this type of playback.
@wemawa Even if they are played correctly whit the proper artifacts the record is always degrading, this form of reproduction only degrades it much more sooner and is propensity to scathing it accidentally is mayor and more critical.
Legos? That's epic
SnareForLife1995 1 month ago
This is neat. I'm trying to think of a way to amplify a gramophone horn using a normal vinyl needle. I think the best way would simply be to use a turntables normal preamp output, wire it to a transducer, and attach the transducer to the diaphragm of the horn. Now i just have to find a gramophone horn.
TheHexeract 1 month ago
I hope u that record wasn't valuable
rowen211 2 months ago
8-D~
superproxy75 5 months ago
the monkess<3 now im a believer
togrindforya 1 year ago
Im still waiting to see someone actually figuring out a way to sense the groove waveform with the NXT sensors, and having a program that can output it to a speaker.
ObiTrev 1 year ago
thats cool!!!
maxi9060 1 year ago
As a vinyl freak this hurts to see.
dusp2k 1 year ago
This is BAD for your LP's :P
bobbelman666 1 year ago
??? wow thts good for somin hm
1skin2skin 1 year ago
It's very practical, but I think the disc will be damaged if I use this system.
W2QYVkz789 1 year ago
Line the cup with some tin foil..it will sound louder
debiani3866 2 years ago
Wow nice. The speed is a tiny bit off though
jjrosaria2 2 years ago
Hey !!!! Does not work with CD's LMAO!!!!
robertaziemba 2 years ago 2
LOL amazing, I've tried this countless time and failed, maybe the rcx brick is what's missing, I only have a motor and gears to adjust the speed
jdgator95 2 years ago
hey dj, spin that wheel!!!
eldorado303 2 years ago
Your cup is way too heavy ! It will surely shred your new Monkees album! I'm telling Davy Jones. He and Peter Tork are gonna come over and rough you up!
Downward pressure should not exceed 2 grams.
Richardddoobies 2 years ago 11
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Richardddoobies 2 years ago
in conventional vinyl/record players, there is usually a belt to reduce vibration from the motor and thus reduce skipping. good luck!
strilight 2 years ago
HEY!! YOUR RUINING AN AWESOME MONKEES RECORD :( lol its cool tho
DrLsw 2 years ago
you should put a flat table on the bottom so it doesnt warp the record
DrLsw 2 years ago
sweet contraption, but dont use it on any good records.
vftdhys 2 years ago 2
Well the cup should be sideways, the information is encoded in sideway movements of the groove. There should be only tiny amounts of force on the record. This construction places lots of force on the record.
What's noteworthy is that the song we hear is without vocals. This is because this machine here tracks the height of the track which actually encodes the difference between left and right channels. As the vocals typically are on both channels, the substraction removes it.
wrtlpfmpf 2 years ago
I used a paper cone and sewing needle, then I taped it to my dad's old turntable. Every time the bass drum played, the arm would skip all over the place! I tried a paper cup and it was much better.
DinoDude65 2 years ago
dont use a pin needle it is bad for your record
rikuwillkillu 2 years ago 3
it was a Berg Sans Nipple record that my brother didn't want, so we used it. It had a really loud bass and made the cone skip. But thanks for the advise. My dad hooked up the turntable to some speakers and put a record needle on it. Now I can listen to vinyl :)
DinoDude65 2 years ago
oh ok then :)
rikuwillkillu 2 years ago
You should try to reduce the level of the engine noice.
W2QYVkz789 2 years ago
thats awesome , cool ingenuity on that right there.
norcal707gt 2 years ago
Impressive!
RandomPieGuy 2 years ago
The sound it's so bad for the ear.
W2QYVkz789 2 years ago
Amaizing job :O
FALKSTAR04 3 years ago
I have uploaded many hi-quality vinyl recordings of popular rock and pop bands. Click my username to hear them . Make sure you watch them in 'hi-quality' so you can fully appreciate how great vinyl can sound!
vinylanaloglp 3 years ago
NicE! CHALLENGE: Now add an automatic pick-up system so that it picks up the cup and needle when the records over and shuts off...
jrcstudios 3 years ago
how did u make that???
its s cool i bugh a record playr thou it plays cds,recorsand casettapes :)
but its awsome can u tell me how to make one lol
pinkfishass 3 years ago
The way you have the needle in the cup is not correct for playing that kind of record. The cup should be on its side and the needle should be stuck in the side of the cup at a 60 degree angle to the record. The way you have the cup and needle set up now is to play a record where the recording is in the bottom of the groves when the recording is in the side of the groves in this record. When the reording is in the bottom it is called a vertical and in the sides a horizontal cut.
edisonphonographs 3 years ago 2
so is it the record making the noise or is the the mindstorms
chich311 3 years ago
Most of the noise comes from the Mindstorms Gears.
JosePino 3 years ago
@chich311 so its like thingimadoodle? right? lol!!!
superproxy75 5 months ago
Woudnt the weight groove the record?
masterd151 3 years ago
it wouldnt groove but the pin hes using will scratch it.
MockStoneLLC 3 years ago 3
I see
masterd151 3 years ago
The arm hold most of the cup weight but the disk will be damaged after 50 times of use. A cactus thorn will solve the problem but the thorn needs to be replaced often.
JosePino 3 years ago
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phattrent 3 years ago
You should try and play daft punk on that.
olanzip 3 years ago
ROFL. Homeverk!
Sandcat87 3 years ago
Whell....that's a doomsday scenario,
we'll always have music [®/]
PAULLONDEN 3 years ago
This is extremely cool. Concerning needles, an old wind-up gramophone collector showed me needles made from briar. He said they used to use them for a mellower, softer tone than steel needles. These were for old 78s, of course.
smurfswacker 3 years ago
If he cared about sound quality or practicality, he wouldn't build a record player.
This is pretty cool.
McVonstein 3 years ago 2
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u no they hav these things called ipods that r little and can do the same thing and still fit in ur pocket
hubermsj 3 years ago
vinyl has better sound quality
bleach2470 3 years ago 6
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not if you got a .wav on jour ipod
djnorush 3 years ago
oh shut up both of ya, this is homemade and more cheap than ipod
ahc25wn6 3 years ago 3
one of the ways to ruin a vinyl
hefic 3 years ago 5
bingo. That's why they made DIAMOND tips with a very specific weight.
RET80 3 years ago
Excellent start but I reckon you could significantly improve both the soundbox and the stylus.
Then have a microphone attached to one of those science stands poised over the sound box
Hexachloraphine 3 years ago
WOW!
superenalotto27 3 years ago
buen trabajo
danielfx870 3 years ago
You're ruining perfectly good records mate! Get a decent stylus instead of a steel pin with a pound of pressure.
Otherwise brilliant work!
DeutscheGrammophon 3 years ago
WOW Brillient. My friend made a Gramophone out of his old TV.
andreibf 3 years ago
pretty sweet, but it's going too fast.
soaper4 3 years ago
pretty kewl mate.
hey i just sent you a video response of one of my gramophones if you want to use it.
steve
steviebboy69 3 years ago
YEEEEEEEEEEAH!
finalholocaust 3 years ago
whut the fisrt song
seanhewitt1 3 years ago
Thats pretty interesting however i can see and hear 2 problems. First, i can hear that your timeing is a little of remember that type of record needs to spin 33.5 times a minute to have the right tone. second your using a nail as a needle, that plus the weight of the cup is going to murder you records so dont play anything valuable.
strongguard70 4 years ago
33.5?? it dosent have to be played at this speed thats not the correct seed its most likly going to to be 45 rpm as it is an old record and it could if its relly that old be played at 75rpm but 33.5 is not correct its normally just 33 or 33.2
a2dds 3 years ago
HA HA HA You people must be really young.
The speeds of record players were 78 rpm, 33.3 rpm & 45 rpm
78s were the standered size and the first disc type then came the larger 33.3s long play
then the small large hole 45s mostly rock and roll at first.
RHEAD100 3 years ago
Correct.
HumaniGeneris 3 years ago
33.333 is the correct speed actually.
HumaniGeneris 3 years ago
the second record is the monkeys, Im' a believer. That is the coolest thing i have ever seen.
martiabr 4 years ago
Cool thing there, but how hard is it on records?
wilkes85 4 years ago
Definitely cool but that nail is destroying the records for sure.
Bootbox77 4 years ago 2
Great work^^. Which record is it?? Sounds actually quite cool.
samara966 4 years ago
nee, oder
die arme Schallplatte
Akalina58 4 years ago
and by the way, good work!
SolomonRacer 4 years ago
what is it in the glass?
battarii 4 years ago
its looks like cotton
TurkDogduTurkOlecek 4 years ago
it's not a glass, look in the about this video, it's a paper cap and it has a napkin in it.
SolomonRacer 4 years ago
Inside the plastic cup there is a napkin. It improves the sound.
JosePino 4 years ago
I think the napkin probably helps soften the treble and equalize the sound. The RIAA equalization curve (which is used for all records) boosts treble by 20 db before recording to record then electronically reduces it on playback to reduce surface noise (sort of like Dolby for cassettes). It also reduces bass on recording and boosts it on playback.
wemawa 3 years ago
i wanna se him scrach on it! lol
that thig is amazing. 5 stars
Evanmileus 4 years ago
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What a fool!!! They STILL sell record players doofus
dtcheatham 4 years ago
You idiot, he was simply making something creative.
Altanore 4 years ago 4
Great!
So Funny, when i was younger i also build a recorder player with Lego.
I have a tip put the needle a little bit more slant, otherwise it will damage your records!
Good Luck!
JohnMoorlag 4 years ago
I love it !!!
psykobeat2012 4 years ago
that needle is destroying the record, it the speed sounds a bit off, but nice work.
gotta love that old rcx though! lol
DeLoreanGuy 4 years ago
nice rcx were using them at school for the lego robotics club
BenDempster 4 years ago
I could kick myself. I had original Monkees also Beatles- the one with the bloody meat &dolls on it. The warped and my mom threw them out. Got lots of 78's, though.
shortyblackwell 4 years ago
I could help you to kick yourself.
That music is treasure!
JosePino 4 years ago
TAHT IS TOO COOL!
CassetteMaster 4 years ago
Man that is so sweet.
I have a few LPs i don't give a shit about
I must try this one day.
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wellerc 4 years ago
cool1111
Ratboy8888 4 years ago
There is one problem here. The pin will damage the record as it is not a legitimate stylus. Can you find an alternative material as a replacement for the pin?
bpabustan 4 years ago
a thorn from a cactus.
The pin that I used doesn't scratch as a "made in china" pin
JosePino 4 years ago
Notice the way the record tips over at 1:30. Classic. This is the kind of stuff I'd like to build!
mostlyrecords 4 years ago
OMG cool! Was it actually playing kinda fast? Is there a way to actually make it louder?
PS: I heard the Can-Can...
nissin917 4 years ago
It was rotatin 33 to 35 rpm. If you use a bigger cup or a big cone, it will be louder.
Yes, That is CAN CAN, "Orpheus in the Underworld."
JosePino 4 years ago
lol I love the Cancan. Its been used in so many cartoons... lol.
nissin917 4 years ago
Awesome invention. Try out some Megadeth next.
Culex316 4 years ago
awesome bro!
jakebarnes97 4 years ago
pitch is way off isn't it?
thepaashaas 4 years ago
well .. that's ONE way to destroy a vinyl :)
xXxCrAdxXx 4 years ago
In 1970 I've made a similar player as a school work. It didn't have a motor. I had to turn it with my fingers.LOL. Great work.
MRKWTZ 4 years ago
The first one that I made, didn't had a motor and the sound was horrible. I had to spin the disk using a crank.
JosePino 4 years ago
This setup is for a vertically modulated record like the old Edison discs. Most later records were horizontally modulated.
brian2889 4 years ago
OMG !!
montinhoman 4 years ago
I recognize the first song heard on that record, i dont know the composer but that song was heard in a video game and i think i heard it on tv, and the very last song heard i think was covered or done by the beatles and re-cover in the 90s by smash mouth, the song is "I'm A Believer" am i correct?
coondogtheman1234 5 years ago
Right. "The Monkies - I'm A believer", Good music from the 60's
JosePino 5 years ago
I think it is, but the original version by the Monkees. 60's, I think?
nissin917 4 years ago
No, is not the original version. This is the "piano version" of the Monkees. If I get the original version of the 60's, I will not play it on my Lwgo Phonograph.
JosePino 4 years ago
YAY!!
nissin917 4 years ago
So, say if i where to design a phonograph with an arm that has a counterweight. 1-2 grams of force is basically the limit right? for a vinyl
Rikitheshadow 5 years ago
My hifi turntable tracks with about 5 grams as normal.
CrockettDave 5 years ago
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wemawa 3 years ago
mine is 5 grams of force, but i am a dj so i need to, or else the needle skips
daanisik 4 years ago
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wemawa 3 years ago
WOW!...COOL!...WELL DONE!
videogameknowitall 5 years ago
I liked your Idea so much that I tried it out for myself!, I used a pin, cup, and K'nex parts, but I used a hand crank. And it works reasonably well!.
Thanks!
videogameknowitall 5 years ago
Don't worry I did not use any good record! ;-)
videogameknowitall 5 years ago
Don't worry, I purchased those disks just for fun. I know the disk are destroyed by the pin. On my website I clearly indicate it. This is only as educational purposes only.
By the way, using the pin, the disk is destroyed if the record is played more than 100 times approximately.
JosePino 5 years ago
I see, just remember not to play a valuable record on this. Play valuables on a proper record player.
AppleOranges12 5 years ago
Using the pin to play the disc you will degrade the sound quality even with 1 play.
wemawa 2 years ago 16
OMG... You are using a METAL pin as a needle! Even though the tracking weight on your plastic cup is only a few grams, you will eventually distroy the vinyl as the pin will scrape away the grooves!!! You may play 78 with a metal pin as they are made from shellac but not vinyl. I suggest that you stop playing vinyls records with a metal pin immediately to spare the disk from further damage.
See my video about playing a record without electricity, I have given a clear warning about steel pins.
AppleOranges12 5 years ago
JosePino knows this will damage the record. And you CANNOT play 78s with a metal needle either. They are more durable than vinyl to groove wear but still are degraded by this type of playback.
wemawa 3 years ago 5
I know, Thanks. Good advise.
JosePino 2 years ago
@wemawa Even if they are played correctly whit the proper artifacts the record is always degrading, this form of reproduction only degrades it much more sooner and is propensity to scathing it accidentally is mayor and more critical.
porkyminch01 1 year ago
wow amazing do you have an enginering degree or something
philly452 5 years ago