I am pretty sure that the Wario video was made just for fun. But seriously, Pictochat shouldn't be neutral. The missles popping out of nowhere or how about the spikes on the sides of the stage. No one wants to think "Have the missles appeared yet... no... how much time has it been since the last change... don't know... should I go to where the missle could pop up at... heck if I know".
No, you're the noob here, you don't know shit. Overswarm is part of the SBR, which is a collective of experienced and high-skilled smashers who know a lot about the game.
Yes, however I'd love to see you adapt to a missile appearing on top of you in the middle of an offensive drive. If you can react to something that appears on you and would kill you instantly, please share because no one else has been able to. It's why items are banned. No one wants a star to randomly drop on the opponent or a bob-omb randomly drop on you.
Okay so it should be banned because the Metaknight player was a moron, and sucked? From watching the video without sound that is the impression I got. I mean MK was getting his ass handed to him. I really see this more of the player not knowing the stage and not playing well, nothing more. Or are you saying any stage that changes shouldn't be playable?
Hey look the metaknight chose to be exactly where the missile could spawn at the time when the next drawing was coming out, in a match where the missile formation hadn't yet come out. Yes, that metaknight should ban Pictochat since he has no idea how to play there. Same goes for the Wario follow-up video, which poor gameplay aside, is still hilarious.
But showing this vid is like showing someone who kills themself because of the platform on Smashville. They had to be impressively bad to die that way.
I dont get it. How can you look at the flames, spikes, glitches, and other bs on pictochat and say "Oh thats the same thing as a single moving platform."
...pictochat should not be a neutral because it can seriously alter the course of a match. It is as ridiculous as warios stage or pokemon stadium v2
Because the timings of the transformations are entirely regimented, and while the order of the transformation may be random, they still follow a set of rules as well.
No drawing hurts you untill its fully there.Fire also does minimal damage, and you can air dodge it, spikes you can air dodge too.
And I can't even think of any game-breaking glitches I've seen on this stage. And this is nowhere near as game altering as Wario's.
My point is/was the video didn't prove the stage isn't neutral.
There's no reason why that should be an issue, other than your own preference. PS1 constantly interrupted fights, and a lot of people thought it was the most neutral in the game.
Also DoH I think Brinstar should be neutral in Brawl as well.
i have found a cool trick with olimar
up throw right beneath the piranha plant ( 1:42 )
i will cost you a pikmin but does alot damage
dutchy253Q 9 months ago
I am pretty sure that the Wario video was made just for fun. But seriously, Pictochat shouldn't be neutral. The missles popping out of nowhere or how about the spikes on the sides of the stage. No one wants to think "Have the missles appeared yet... no... how much time has it been since the last change... don't know... should I go to where the missle could pop up at... heck if I know".
superrpgplayer 2 years ago
your just a noob
Juntahh 2 years ago
No, you're the noob here, you don't know shit. Overswarm is part of the SBR, which is a collective of experienced and high-skilled smashers who know a lot about the game.
xAfterDawnx 2 years ago
Isn't the ability to adapt to and manipulate your environment part of the game?
ColBarnaby 3 years ago
yes but if people were able to do that then what would everyone bitch about?
spinseffing 2 years ago
Yes, however I'd love to see you adapt to a missile appearing on top of you in the middle of an offensive drive. If you can react to something that appears on you and would kill you instantly, please share because no one else has been able to. It's why items are banned. No one wants a star to randomly drop on the opponent or a bob-omb randomly drop on you.
Tommy090888 2 years ago
The missile always appears at the same time in a predictable fashion.
ColBarnaby 2 years ago
If you can react and avoid a missile that appears and kills you in less than a second, then you should be the best smasher in the world.
Tommy090888 2 years ago
watch?v=Xcojcb7ZMxc&feature=related
Please tell me how something like that can be predictable.
Tommy090888 2 years ago
Er... he couldh ave air dodged it. Or not Smash DI'd to the left and killed himself, since it has set knockback.
Overswarm 2 years ago
Okay so it should be banned because the Metaknight player was a moron, and sucked? From watching the video without sound that is the impression I got. I mean MK was getting his ass handed to him. I really see this more of the player not knowing the stage and not playing well, nothing more. Or are you saying any stage that changes shouldn't be playable?
woot21 3 years ago
Hey look the metaknight chose to be exactly where the missile could spawn at the time when the next drawing was coming out, in a match where the missile formation hadn't yet come out. Yes, that metaknight should ban Pictochat since he has no idea how to play there. Same goes for the Wario follow-up video, which poor gameplay aside, is still hilarious.
dphanna 3 years ago
He could have jumped again and avoided it, just looks like he was bad at reacting to me
Ignatius256 3 years ago
People don't watch Melee friendlies, why in GOD's name would they watch Brawl ones?
Sliq111 3 years ago
What? Then I must be like really weird. Because that's what I spend most of my free time doing. <<
A2ZOMG 3 years ago 2
Yes.
Sliq111 3 years ago
a 3 minute match with overswarm?
well SOMETHING must have happened o.O
*watches*
Gimpyfish62 3 years ago
I'm dumb, can you explain why that somehow is non-neutral?
A2ZOMG 3 years ago
neutrals are supposed to be fair and not have random shit happen.
pictochat obviously is not neutral.
InfiniteGXT 3 years ago 3
But showing this vid is like showing someone who kills themself because of the platform on Smashville. They had to be impressively bad to die that way.
Ignatius256 3 years ago
wow. You just compared pictochat to smashville...
InfiniteGXT 3 years ago
Right, that's how silly your argument sounds to me.
Ignatius256 3 years ago
I dont get it. How can you look at the flames, spikes, glitches, and other bs on pictochat and say "Oh thats the same thing as a single moving platform."
...pictochat should not be a neutral because it can seriously alter the course of a match. It is as ridiculous as warios stage or pokemon stadium v2
InfiniteGXT 3 years ago
Because the timings of the transformations are entirely regimented, and while the order of the transformation may be random, they still follow a set of rules as well.
No drawing hurts you untill its fully there.Fire also does minimal damage, and you can air dodge it, spikes you can air dodge too.
And I can't even think of any game-breaking glitches I've seen on this stage. And this is nowhere near as game altering as Wario's.
My point is/was the video didn't prove the stage isn't neutral.
Ignatius256 3 years ago
fair enough, but it certainly is bordering it
InfiniteGXT 3 years ago
If pictochat is neutral, then Brinstar better be as well.
DeeOhAytch 3 years ago
it doesn't matter if it can be avoided, if it interrupts then its bad.
end, stupid argument
zech48 3 years ago
There's no reason why that should be an issue, other than your own preference. PS1 constantly interrupted fights, and a lot of people thought it was the most neutral in the game.
Also DoH I think Brinstar should be neutral in Brawl as well.
Ignatius256 3 years ago
I thought this was dicussion on whether it should be banned or cp. Clearly not a nuetral along with Brinstar, wtf??
Rurounikeitaro 3 years ago
I'm sorry that this is old but I just want to say that PS1's changes are not hazardous, unlike Pictochat's.
RavenXGhost 3 years ago
You can fall through PS floor, that's pretty hazardous.
Ignatius256 3 years ago
That's a glitch that happens to very rarely happen though. Pictochat's hazards are deliberate.
RavenXGhost 3 years ago
You're right, Pictochat is a better stage, less random deaths than PS.
Ignatius256 3 years ago
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Tommy090888 2 years ago