Niki Raapana - Communitarianism

[radajan]

This ideological "big C" Communitarianism sounds like some sort of bizarre cult. The philosophy of communitarianism is far different, and simply describes individuals as existing within a community rather than a vacuum. This philosophy can be tied with libertarian values, since the majority of people will on their own accord form and participate in communities OF INDIVIDUALS (as they have done throughout history).

[aaaaaaaars]

' Communitarianism' the way I see it is nothing but another term for the kind of ruthless hypocricy that is end result if you will, as a lot of people seem to be able to see the bottom individual level but won't look at the bigger picture, of evil.

Plain and simple.

Good people are killed and prevented from action.

Everything that was initially created by them gets taken over by the horde of scumsuckers that stalk the earth nowadays.

Eventually everything will just rot away.

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@aaaaaaaars Coin a term for good, they infiltrate, take over and use the term to mean evil.

Again and again.

Might as well shut up almost.

And then when people see the bottom level, what do they do when they voice their opinion?

They talk about the big picture.

I thought I just pointed out in my previous comment they didn't see this?

Maybe they see it but don't want to deal with it?

It's around the corner, in the street of course.

The man at house no. 7, the woman at 13 and her oldest son etc.

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@aaaaaaaars Your nephew and your sister's yougest.

No, it's those folks far away and the ' criminals' , the scum!

They say they want justice, peace, love and healthcare for everyone to the face.

Then they rape, kill, torture and steal behind the back.

Good and dignity becomes extinct, as the environment, to put it a bit too softly doesn't support it.

A real human being is nowhere to be found anymore almost.

Instead there's servants and masters in different shades.

[aaaaaaaars]

@aaaaaaaars When someone uses the term ' we' , you know he's a moron at best and an evil bastard that must die at worst.

'Finally man has gained some reason and realises that without arms it is difficult to kill one another!' a politician cries out after the new gun ban has come into effect.

' I believe the dark ages may well finally be over!'

A loudly cheering crowd.

Ignorance is not an excuse.

Collateral damage not an issue.

Something must be done.

[TheGardenofRoses]

I consider communitarianism more as a return to a more let´s say tribal community in which the members care for each other while the privatsphere is respected. I think the function of a communitarian community should be that the members take more responsibilities for their own duties so that a superordinated construct like a communitarian police is not necessary. But surely a communitarian community would not be something for everyone. So to become a member should be by choice.

[TheOringinalBRad]

This is satanism and it controls many big so called Christian churches the ones with global reach.

[CanadianFolkBlues]

this is all sorts of fucked up!

[SocialDemocrats]

"Niki" is a crackpot, but theres nothing illegal about being a paranoid fringe conspiracy nut. Hopefully shes just another harmless crank on the net. 

[Alaskatentlady]

@SocialDemocrats , name calling is the best you can do to refute all the evidence I produce from the agencies pushing the platform for tyranny that you support? hahahhahahah!

[bigcree]

She`s pointing out the Agenda, here. Anyone who has gained even a small amount of knowledge on it, listening to this assessment should be alarmed and motivated into a position of becoming pro active in keeping this from manifesting.

[RogerHoare]

What sources does One read to get informed about the banking elite's financing of communitarianism?

[Alaskatentlady]

@RogerHoare

Search online Democratic Leadership Council records. The DLC openly promoted communitarianism and the "ultimate" Third Way and were funded in part by the Rothschild Bank of England. Lynn Forrester was a DLC leader who married Sir Evelyn de Rothschild after DLC candidate Bill Clinton was elected. Several online reports tell us of the recent investments made by World Bank, AID and the US government in Colombian Communitarian Reintegration programs sponsored by the United Nations.

[RogerHoare]

@Alaskatentlady Thanks, Niki.

[Bassdaddy404]

FUCK YOU! I was born free, I will DIE free. That's not a threat, that is a PROMISE!

[ukpropaganda]

We are having 'The Big Society' idea rammed down our throats here in the UK.

[lowmank79]

December, 1901 edition of National Geographic in an report titled Western Progress in China: Chinese author then begins with The first thing necessary is to manifest resolution like an upright pillar. This is reminiscent of the steps taken to redefine American culture at the time. The Chinese old customs were good, but having been in operation for a long time, a great many abuses and obstruction have grown up.

[fede2]

neither societies or communities are conscious entities. they have no inherent value outside of their component members. their formations are natural occurences based on individuals working for voluntary mutual benifit.

that individuals ought to sacrifice their liberties for the sake of the collective means:

a) everyone ought to compromise for the sake of everyone else (compromise for it's own sake) or

b) some ought to compromise for the sake of others who don't (simply non-sensical).

[St37One]

Compromise and sacrifice for its own sake. I think that that is pretty much the core idea here, and when you extract it and examine it, it sure looks ugly.

[globalman]

They only do to us, that, which we allow them to do. Just say no!

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[IAmBlankReg]

She seems very critical of communitarianism, not supportive. I don;t think some of the commenters here realize that.

[dozerking]

Without Community,We all die. People can't live on their own.Without each INDIVIDUAL contributing to society (Trashmen,Food Makers,Highway Builders, Truckers.etc..the list goes on) We simply cannot survive. Individuals should have absolute rights and also contribute to help their fellow man.I see nothing wrong with that principle of Community,and also preserving Individual freedoms. it's a balancing act IMO. We just need to stay engaged. The powers don't want us in Unions,it's harder to control.

[jeremystalked]

This type of program is where a lot of organized stalking comes from. You might not take the claims of us targeted individuals seriously... I hope for your sake nobody in your neighborhood with a grudge identifies you as a "problem".

[sheema56]

Im hoping they will die or be incapacitated when they line up like good sheep for their flu shots.

[monicamir]

This is so horrible!

Individual rights have broked down the moral fibers of society?

Coming from a president that practiced oral sex with an intern in the white house?

Forcing moms and dads all over the country to explain to their 7 year olds what oral sex is.

I tell what governments all over the world are completely immoral and corrupting people in every way possible.

Don't blame the regular hard working people for the corruption, it comes from the top not from the bottom.

[andthenitsgone]

This IS the replacement for a society who's turned it's back on God.

[hatchbx]

This is completely silly. The questionnaire from NWU is part of WHO'S database? Who are "they"? How you're haphazardly stinging together community policing, of all things, with the Rio declaration on the Environment, etc. is baseless on its face and smacks of conspiratorial pseudo-theory, complete w/ ominous piano music. As far as one can glean from it, this vid demonstrates nothing other than an implicit "Objectivist" agenda of "virtuous" selfishness.

[darlingelf]

"-- demonstrates nothing other than an implicit "Objectivist" agenda of "virtuous" selfishness."

I believe that every individual has rights as a human being, as opposed to having rights only as a cog in some social machine euphemistically and misleadingly called "community." This view does not negate the idea of community as such, it merely defends the intrinsic value of human life against the belief that the worth of human life can be quantified according to its usefulness to the community.

[descanter]

I can understand how communitarianism creates insiders/outsiders, etc. - which is oxymoronic to liberalism where everyone is free and equal. Given the paradoxical nature of liberal nationalism where borders, citizenship, nation-states, etc. have been constructed in much the same way as communitarianism, does anti-communitarian analysis propose a borderless world?

[CrakerJak123]

lmao...So only liberals deserve free speech and self determination. Thats cute, good luck with that :P

[GoofyTheKiller]

Fuck communitarianism and everyone who practices it. And don't even think about forcing that shitty ideology on me.

[hatchbx]

Then go live in the mountains like Ted Kazinski or John Gault. Otherwise, your pretense about being an individual actor is completely delusional.

[bigcree]

@GoofyTheKiller Yes. Agreed. It is Orwellian BS. They can keep it.

[rightwinglefty1]

I hope everyone who thinks like communitarians dies, seriously! GROUPS DON'T HAVE RIGHTS! Just individuals! Individuals are the only sovereign entities that exist, not the group, not the community, not the nation, not the state. Any so-called "group rights" are inherently coercive and therefore an injustice. Society is a false construct and it's pressures should be ignored by all sensible people. No one has any entitlement to anyone else, other than to not infringe on their personal sovereignty.

[kev1776]

@rightwinglefty1,

Amazing,

My Napa County General Plan states the need to "balance the rights of the individual with those of the community and the needs of the environment."

[asyabasya]

@rightwinglefty1 how come is a society a false construct if it is constructed only on a voluntary basis and every member has the right to leave it?

[CrakerJak123]

lmao i love how clueless this lady is about what communitarianism actually is... to understand 'rights' in its proper context it must be understood as a componenet of a higher order, ie the community. otherwise, as thomas hobbes said man's life remains 'solitary, poor, nasty, brutish, and short!' Eg, your right to life amounts to peanuts if it is not reciprocated by others...Argue all you want, but thats just reality... :D

[darlingelf]

In other words, you are reciting the belief that human life has no intrinsic value, that it is worthless, except in the context of a community. If you refuse to be one of us, to live with us, to be exactly like us, you are nothing, you have no rights, no right to live, even. That is totalitarianism defined.

[AestheticizeAnalog]

Nice attempt at obfuscation, but you fail.....

Communitarianism does not suggest that the individual has no value, it suggests that the individual can only make sense of himself through his membership in different groups. Think about ways we describe individuals, they involve group membership. You cannot understand yourself just as an individual you understand yourself as belonging to particular groups (occupational etc). Thus groups can make claims, not just individuals......

[darlingelf]

(A) "You cannot understand yourself just as an individual you understand yourself as belonging to particular groups (occupational etc)." (B) "Thus groups can make claims, not just individuals......"

I completely agree with A, but how exactly does B follow from A? If I were a member of the homosexual community (which I am not, although I consider myself homosexual), can I make claims on the grounds of my membership in that community?

[AestheticizeAnalog]

The idea is that if you accept that groups have ontological meaning, that they are not just reducible to their mere parts, than there is something that is added, so that some sort of claims can be made. Most often this revolves around a consideration of the ends of a group being more than the aggregation of the ends of the individuals who make up that group.

[darlingelf]

Well, that certainly clarifies your point. In spite of what I have written earlier, my idea of a good society is actually quite old-fashioned. I understand and value the role of other people in a person's life and feel that this is something that is missing from our lives in modern societies. But I also feel that what is referred to as "community" by some followers of communitarianism may be a Troyan horse, a pretty package which conceals an unpleasant surprise.

[friedenmeister]

nope. your wrong. go fuck yourself you communist collectivist motherfucker.

I am me, an individual. I was not born as a community and then somebody shaved off a little sliver of individual.

I am John Galt. You are a piece of shit.

[dinkolino2]

read the paper, man

[phillipzernst]

communitarianism is NOT nationalism, it's nationalistic take is only a sucker jab for the globalist final goal.

[dellsprospects22]

sounds like continuity of government where it just goes down the line to me

[dellsprospects22]

databases, infraguard, churches promoting politicians, bell south tapping phones, etc..feels pretty FUCKED UP..why not just replace us with fucking ROBOTS, WTF

[descanter]

Interesting.

But...Is Communitarianism the same as Nationalism? and Internationalism?

If one is anti-communitarian, then is one also anti-nationalist?

I like this. Definitely makes me think. And, it's true, community development is the buzzword. Although, so is nationalism...Hmmm.

[T850CSM101a1676]

This could work...if we were bees!

[SomeGuyNamedI]

I plan on eventually making a video on this, but for now: How would one justify rights and liberties as standard in a communitarian community? What justifies a community to have any bearing on the moral obligations of its members? I have serious problems with this unless EVERY member of this community was voluntarily so. For instance, rules at colleges can be justified by voluntary participation, as well as religious moral influence. What about this?