In Graspop, you can't hear the guitar, nor the keyboard. The only thing i can hear is a bass and drums. The microphone is too high related to everything else. The setup of this live, was pretty much, pure shit.
lol he can't play the solo as Jani, it's not bad when you play something in your own way but when it is played badder than the original means just 2 things : you have no taste and rather respect to the composer or just you haven't the same skills to play the original!
Graspop does have a very shitty sound system. Like I saw Dragonforce with Sonata opening for them, and they sound amazing. I hope graspop won't ruin band's reputations, like how Dragonforce was looked down on for a while.
Graspop is sucks!! Sonata Arctica and DragonForce sound bad! Everybody know Sonata is awesome live, but sucks at graspop. Dragonforce is good live too, with Ultra Beatdown.
@mate0814 Your english is shit, i mean srsly. Graspop is sucks? Wouw. Anyways. The concert was way beter than how it sounds now. It's the recording that sucks not the festival it self.
Se escucha mucho la voz y la batería, pero el teclado, y el bajo no existen practicamente y la guitarra esta muy baja.. lástima porque por lo que se escucha estaban sonando re bien!
Well done just hear tony voice and everything is perfect^^ now serious yeah i think the keyboard is really silent but the guitar solo is well done and the end is hilarious tony is really funny^^
I agree that the mixing seems way off for this one. Back-up vocals sound like they are coming through a tin can; can only clearly hear the keyboard when the guitars stop...
oh man... it hurts to hear the other songs of this concert! The bass and the guitar are messing everything up. When I saw them live, and the other live videos... they were even better than the album versions... blah!
Well, as I said, I have seen them live, and have seen other videos. Yes, FTSOR is for DVD, but this one is well filmed, too.
I checked other versions of this same video, and either all of the audio quality is bad, or the guitar and bass are messing up the songs in the concerts (I checked other songs from this same concert, the bass and guitar are not that great).
And no, I'm not that big of a fan of the people but of their music. :)
I've seen SA 7 times in concert, one of which was when they had Jani in it back in Feb 06'.
There is no comparison of a band official DVD to a fan vid found on youtube. Your beating a dead horse as far as thats concerned.
I'm not saying this is the best SA vid ever, but its definitely well put to together for it just being a youtube vid.I agree that seeing them live is better (just like 99% of the bands I've seen) than hearing just an album. I still dont see you point being made.
Well, the quality of this one is indeed pretty bad, but watch watch?v=WU-ja3CxCeU and put it on HQ, and while the quality is much better (I mean the sound quality), it seems that for this concert the bass is too loud and the guitar has too much P.M. and the distortion doesn't have that "bright" sound to it as in the album version or as in other concerts (not only the DVD).
I'm just saying Jani's playing seems better to me.
Wasn't that CD the last one Jani recorded with them?
The guitar sound is horrible, nothing can replace Jani - he was the sound of Sonata Arctica, even though Elias is a good musician, Jani will always be the one
Weird... as a general rule i dislike metal but Sonata are my 2nd fave band of all time - unbelievable live and on CD. They can have a laugh too unlike alot of live bands who are stiff, rigid, sloppy and dont know how to have a good time.
well this is not camera mic sound for sure. They must've taken the audio from the mixer.. otherwise it would be really distorted and echo'y like a bootleg
Why in a world you're dissing Sonata Arctica, but still watching these videos?? fuck you all... Henkka is absolutely great KeyBoard player, but this video sucks 'cause the editor have disabled every instrument but drums '-.-
Eh, no he wouldn't... Elias is a far more talented guitarplayer than Jani ever will be. It's the sound of this video that is somewhat crap that makes the guitar sound bad...
Then you should consider to get some real prove or experience comparing guitarists, because it seems you don't know a fuck about guitar. We'll see whos the best when their new album comes out. At the moment you can't say a shit about fuckface who plays Janis guitar tracks.
They sound weird, actually every group that I've seen in Graspop sounds in the same weirdo way.....WTF???.......Caleb is a great soong, I like of this version that they sang the chorus, pretty well =)
Well i dont like it. Unia wasnt janis fault either it was that keyboard player. so shut it you punk. and it sounds like crap that albu, suck the only albums of sonata that work are ecliptica and silence. you emo
i gotto admit this was not their best concert, i was there and it was good but not very good. But this is one of my favorite songs from unia ~Great album~
dude, get the fuck over yourself! if you were a REAL fan of SA and their work, you would enjoy or at least at least respect ALL of their work, with or without the original lineup members (Mikko/Jani).
Come and tell it to my face you squad, can you people get a life thats my freaking opinion. Get a life or go to suck sonata´s D**L. Jeez you people fill my email acout saying the most stupid things. Thast whats music is about DIFFERENT TASTES i bet none of you can even play any other instrument but guitar. Come on get a girl and F**K her instead of just readind the S**H that people wrte here. GOD
it is about different tastes, but you are talking about something you don't have the knowledge to do so. it is a fact that henkka doesn't record much of the keyboards in the albums, tony does. against facts there are no arguments.
i f**k my girlfriend everyday - maybe you should apply your suggestion to yourself.
and i can't even play guitar =( but i'm starting. altough i'm the vocalist for two bands.
Um, where you have found this information? It's true (if my memory serves me right) that Tony played the keyboards on Ecliptica and on Winterheart Tales except for solos by Jens Johansson i.e before Harkin or Klingenberg joined.
Audio engeniers for this festival suck balls
TrapnestShinigami 3 weeks ago
sounds like crap
DANGILBERT03 6 months ago
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mkulbs you don't know about anything
jofrenegger 6 months ago
In Graspop, you can't hear the guitar, nor the keyboard. The only thing i can hear is a bass and drums. The microphone is too high related to everything else. The setup of this live, was pretty much, pure shit.
lzoakis97 9 months ago 2
Tony is just so fucking funny, and full of energy
ReikTerralt 10 months ago
Graspop... so baaaad ...
TheRadesapiens 1 year ago
lol he can't play the solo as Jani, it's not bad when you play something in your own way but when it is played badder than the original means just 2 things : you have no taste and rather respect to the composer or just you haven't the same skills to play the original!
DARKAGEKNIGHT 1 year ago
@DARKAGEKNIGHT Hah, Tony writes the songs not Jani. And jani was a drunk he got what he deserved ;]
And how does that make the guy have no taste? And Jani isn't better than this guy if he was he'd still be in sonata would he not?
Mkulbs 10 months ago
5:56 XD Someone's still eating too much sweets, i guess. *giggles*
SisterNajade 1 year ago
Wish I were like Tony...
HowlingToFullmoon 1 year ago
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HowlingToFullmoon 1 year ago
They forgot the amplifiers xD rofl
darkshadowITA 1 year ago
is the sound streamed of death metal :O?
Droebelma3 1 year ago
elias al minuto 1:29 è solo stonatoXD
magofelpanera 1 year ago
Graspop does have a very shitty sound system. Like I saw Dragonforce with Sonata opening for them, and they sound amazing. I hope graspop won't ruin band's reputations, like how Dragonforce was looked down on for a while.
Googs360 1 year ago
Yeah the video could've been sooooo awesome with a better sound (just a little would do!!)
waitforchance 1 year ago
haha they rule!
DjMagnificien 1 year ago
graspop fails imo
Magicquel567 1 year ago
5:43 wtf
sunasunacroc 2 years ago 7
@sunasunacroc Its Tony.
You come to expect these things from him after a while, he's creative and he's silly.
And did I mention his voice?
XaleManix 2 years ago 5
Jani TwT
DestructorOfMinds 2 years ago
this song sounds bad in this vid. the intro is not as epic as it should be when played live. must be graspop and they're mediocre setup....
garlictoothpaste 2 years ago
jajaja, el final esta gracioso, cuando baja su ramera, jajajaja. tony, XD
wisiano 2 years ago
Marko's years of neglection have been avenged.
NingenSucka 2 years ago 8
ROFL!
jackwaites123 2 years ago 2
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Sonata is AWESOME (sake of revenge) but at graspop........... shit
mate0814 2 years ago
Graspop is sucks!! Sonata Arctica and DragonForce sound bad! Everybody know Sonata is awesome live, but sucks at graspop. Dragonforce is good live too, with Ultra Beatdown.
Graspop is a SHIT :D
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Dragonforce sounds bad without Graspop.
GodOfGamblers81690 2 years ago
No they sound good, you can see @ Dragonforcehdtv YouTube channel
Teddy944 2 years ago 4
@mate0814 Hope you're right. I'll see them in this summer and I hope that they'll sound better :D.
BlizzardArthas 11 months ago
@mate0814 Your english is shit, i mean srsly. Graspop is sucks? Wouw. Anyways. The concert was way beter than how it sounds now. It's the recording that sucks not the festival it self.
Mkulbs 10 months ago
if tony did the intro story, that would be awesome
amangonecrazy 2 years ago 4
tony you're not fat xD
losodioatodos360 2 years ago 4
is that elias singing so badly? at 1:29 ? thats the worst ive ever heard :P still like this song though :D
chatcat666 2 years ago 21
That's the whole bband singing (except for Tony)...
Yo9Rock7Roll 2 years ago
@chatcat666
not really,.. He's singing well, it's because the sound of the bass.. I think..
MetalMiklos 2 years ago
@MetalMiklos yah i think is the bass too
DestructorOfMinds 2 years ago
@chatcat666 There are marko and elias singing, but the strange voice is markos voice
XXXWiziManXXX 1 year ago
@chatcat666 i think that was Markko ... not sure .. :D elias can sing ..
Bakeerful 10 months ago
@chatcat666 Lol no, it's Marko. XD
Christabel44 3 weeks ago
tony is singing as he never did live, he sound really great
takeshiguadua 2 years ago
HE must compensate the shitty sound ;p
But very great
Droebelma3 2 years ago
Holy shit their Sound Manager sucks ass
stryfe41 2 years ago 3
Se escucha mucho la voz y la batería, pero el teclado, y el bajo no existen practicamente y la guitarra esta muy baja.. lástima porque por lo que se escucha estaban sonando re bien!
RiverwindHM 2 years ago
First time I've heard Elias play, he makes the solo sound like john petrucci.
EOGS4492 2 years ago 3
Piano playback at the beginning! Shame, bloody shame!
smiljanicn 2 years ago
wow graspop even makes sonata sound bad live.
ImADrummerEh 2 years ago
Is it me, or is Tony singing spectacular live?
Then at 1:29, he's like "I'll let the boys sing!"
They sound like they're drunk, and Tony's like,
"...whoops."
NingenSucka 2 years ago
He's has improved a lot the last few years... :)
RiverwindHM 2 years ago
3:03 :D
ann9marylou 2 years ago 2
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FUCK YOU ELIAS
runescapeman0070 2 years ago
yeah... tony is more, like... doing exercise at the end... ^_^
sunasunacroc 2 years ago
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Anyway, the girl in 1:28 is hot and beauty
calipustalisnopuguin 2 years ago
Well done just hear tony voice and everything is perfect^^ now serious yeah i think the keyboard is really silent but the guitar solo is well done and the end is hilarious tony is really funny^^
yamiimax 2 years ago 3
I agree that the mixing seems way off for this one. Back-up vocals sound like they are coming through a tin can; can only clearly hear the keyboard when the guitars stop...
x999y999 2 years ago
it would great to see how jani should play this!
hologrofting 2 years ago
Didn't sound anything like the song I have. The vocals were good, but everything else was just.... ugh..
MarthXero 3 years ago
Its the vid quality you noob
Metalcarus 2 years ago 2
no it's not... the guitarist it's making it not sound good at all.... Janni was better!
J1Militans 2 years ago
oh man... it hurts to hear the other songs of this concert! The bass and the guitar are messing everything up. When I saw them live, and the other live videos... they were even better than the album versions... blah!
J1Militans 2 years ago
I take it you don't know anything whatsoever about music.
How is "Jani" better than Elias?
You can't even spell the mans name correctly; shows how big of a fan you are I guess.
Metalcarus 2 years ago 2
Well, as I said, I have seen them live, and have seen other videos. Yes, FTSOR is for DVD, but this one is well filmed, too.
I checked other versions of this same video, and either all of the audio quality is bad, or the guitar and bass are messing up the songs in the concerts (I checked other songs from this same concert, the bass and guitar are not that great).
And no, I'm not that big of a fan of the people but of their music. :)
PaX.
J1Militans 2 years ago
I've seen SA 7 times in concert, one of which was when they had Jani in it back in Feb 06'.
There is no comparison of a band official DVD to a fan vid found on youtube. Your beating a dead horse as far as thats concerned.
I'm not saying this is the best SA vid ever, but its definitely well put to together for it just being a youtube vid.I agree that seeing them live is better (just like 99% of the bands I've seen) than hearing just an album. I still dont see you point being made.
Metalcarus 2 years ago
Well, the quality of this one is indeed pretty bad, but watch watch?v=WU-ja3CxCeU and put it on HQ, and while the quality is much better (I mean the sound quality), it seems that for this concert the bass is too loud and the guitar has too much P.M. and the distortion doesn't have that "bright" sound to it as in the album version or as in other concerts (not only the DVD).
I'm just saying Jani's playing seems better to me.
Wasn't that CD the last one Jani recorded with them?
PaX
J1Militans 2 years ago
Unia was the last one yes.
Metalcarus 2 years ago
check out older videos, they do sound like the album, or even better.. try searching for "For the Sake of Revenge" concert songs
J1Militans 2 years ago
No, it really is the vid quality.
It wouldn't take half a brain to figure that one out.
Yea, I'm gonna check out FTSOR .... a concert that was meant to be a DVD in the first place.
Like I said before.... your a noob
Metalcarus 2 years ago
The bass is too loud. The rest is too quiet. It's an issue of the mixing, not the guitarist.
Lenyberry 2 years ago 4
does tony speak latin? He pronounces is 'v's like 'w's
justaskin1 3 years ago
3:31 on is epic.
flamingstick 3 years ago 2
Graspop alwaays have this shitty sound!!!
Isn't a problem of the band, see all the presentations in this festival and you'll see what I'm tellin' you
pablonata 3 years ago
This is... crap... :(
The guitar sound is horrible, nothing can replace Jani - he was the sound of Sonata Arctica, even though Elias is a good musician, Jani will always be the one
FantaFreakftw 3 years ago
Even if he doesnt play the original solos i think hes doing a much better job in the Rhytm section,
Hes got a more define palmmute and tightness which Jani had LACK of .
Seems like a much better guy for Sonata Arctica, the new sonata is more about the emotionell keys and heavy guitars!
I think we will see some greatly arranged solos by Elias on the fortcoming album, hes got a hell of a economy picking !
//a true fan of the music they create!
Forensic666 3 years ago 3
finally, something positive about Elias.
but about the solos, Jani and Henkka always improvie most solos they play live, so Elias's improvisation is in the true spirit of the band
BoundWithDuctTape 2 years ago 2
miss old Sonata Miko/Jani, pleasure for ears and eyes!
smiljanicn 3 years ago 2
muy buena cancion si señores increible Arriba Sonata Arctica!!!!!
Jaimeguadapero 3 years ago
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nice way to butcher a solo elias...
deathbymetal89 3 years ago
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Very bad performance for SA ... The guitar sounds suck. Too bad this is good song.
hiiopy2 3 years ago
Putain c est quoi ce tee shirt rayé assez pourri Tony mdr, sinon excellent la song en live, j'adore
Withinscars 3 years ago
they look really sad and serious - probly the song.
shame about the Jani - Elias thing but lets give him a chance...if he really was crap they wouldnt have let him in the band would they???
sa94721 3 years ago 4
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i do not hear guitar? because elias sucks
janiliimatainenftw 3 years ago
Nothing to do with the mix or something...?
At that level it's not about that are you good instrumentist or not. It's just the way you play, your way to play the instrument.
Sampsazlak 3 years ago 2
Weird... as a general rule i dislike metal but Sonata are my 2nd fave band of all time - unbelievable live and on CD. They can have a laugh too unlike alot of live bands who are stiff, rigid, sloppy and dont know how to have a good time.
Elias is good but... Jani... :(
5* easily
Anonymousmuffin 3 years ago
Cool that finally someone posted some new live material from Sonata Arctica, to bad about the sound though ;(
Christianholt911 3 years ago
Elias is amazing
TsUkiaKu 3 years ago
the sound quality wasn't that good on graspop but tony's voice still sounds great =D
Weerwolfboy 3 years ago 4
LOl Unia was Realy great Of sonata Caleb Is MY favo: Its just difrent!! from other albums!!! I lOve it <3... Sonata Best band efver /m/
rodeodeodeo 3 years ago 4
I completely agree. Been listening to Sonata for a while and this is by far there most complex album to date. at least imho.
GeneralArrow 3 years ago 3
i been there i'm in the crowed!!!!!!!
n1ghtwish1 3 years ago
same here xD
in the frond, soooow coowl
Kyuuketsuki8Neko 3 years ago
awfulully mixed, cant hear "piano"
Tu0mazz 3 years ago 4
right....
aidyCze 3 years ago 3
this is terribly mixed.. that is not sonata's fault though.. it's the dude in the back at the mixer
DGMRuadeil 3 years ago
sure! they in PERU sounded really awesome!
sitojo 3 years ago
it probably sounded better there its partially the cameras fault
cheesebaker1818 3 years ago
well this is not camera mic sound for sure. They must've taken the audio from the mixer.. otherwise it would be really distorted and echo'y like a bootleg
DGMRuadeil 3 years ago 3
omg x'D
i'm on 5.06 , so not coel x'D
emothingarso 3 years ago
it IS cool :D
Alana1710 3 years ago
Good Video!!! Caled i like me and More in "live"
"For The Sake Of Revenge"
SilenceArctica 3 years ago
it's awful until about 2:33
fucking bad sound quality
can't even hear the keyboards
RevolutionDsquad 3 years ago
Why in a world you're dissing Sonata Arctica, but still watching these videos?? fuck you all... Henkka is absolutely great KeyBoard player, but this video sucks 'cause the editor have disabled every instrument but drums '-.-
Terpetius 3 years ago 2
jani would play that beter.
hologrofting 3 years ago
Eh, no he wouldn't... Elias is a far more talented guitarplayer than Jani ever will be. It's the sound of this video that is somewhat crap that makes the guitar sound bad...
Sirencia 3 years ago
Then you should consider to get some real prove or experience comparing guitarists, because it seems you don't know a fuck about guitar. We'll see whos the best when their new album comes out. At the moment you can't say a shit about fuckface who plays Janis guitar tracks.
guitargod7890 3 years ago 2
They sound weird, actually every group that I've seen in Graspop sounds in the same weirdo way.....WTF???.......Caleb is a great soong, I like of this version that they sang the chorus, pretty well =)
pablonata 3 years ago
what the hell is tony doint at 5:45? a stretching exercise?
SirK1K1 3 years ago
Really isn't that energetic... :(
Great song, just not the best live...
also what is with Tony waving his arms like that haha.
RZephyr07 3 years ago
Lawl, well.. its your style.
I like Unia as well, because it is different, but still sonata.
I love silence and ecliptica to and al the others, but unia isnt the black sheep of the albums.
elshof93 3 years ago
the sound isn't good-the drums are too loud and sound strange and the keys are to quiet
lulalely 3 years ago
I dont like this new sonata sound is too much, HIM and that kind of stuff is not POWER METAL anymore, also, BRING BACK JANI THIS DUDE SUCKS
marianoarnaiz 3 years ago
Marianoarnaiz:
Elias is an great guitarist and the sound of unia is not his fault, when unia was made jani was still in the band..
So know what you are talking about or just be quiet please.
And this sound nice, it isnt the dubbel kick straight bass drumms anymore.. but a lill bit prog. And I like it.
elshof93 3 years ago
Well i dont like it. Unia wasnt janis fault either it was that keyboard player. so shut it you punk. and it sounds like crap that albu, suck the only albums of sonata that work are ecliptica and silence. you emo
marianoarnaiz 3 years ago
i gotto admit this was not their best concert, i was there and it was good but not very good. But this is one of my favorite songs from unia ~Great album~
folkmetalhead 3 years ago
dude, get the fuck over yourself! if you were a REAL fan of SA and their work, you would enjoy or at least at least respect ALL of their work, with or without the original lineup members (Mikko/Jani).
BoundWithDuctTape 3 years ago
Acctually im not a fan of the band i like a couple of their albums, but the new material si not that good enought. Geez get a live you people
marianoarnaiz 3 years ago
hah, I love and respect everything from them, but that doesent mean that Unia was a good album XD
Nichlas93 3 years ago
but if you love everything (which includes Unia), then how can you think it's bad?
BoundWithDuctTape 3 years ago
I meant EXCEPT unia...
Nichlas93 3 years ago
alrighty then
BoundWithDuctTape 3 years ago
i love sonata but i must agree unia wasnt their best.. there's a few songs i like on there.. not all
DGMRuadeil 3 years ago
henkka doesn't record the keyboards for the albums. he only plays like 10% of it...
in other words. you're ignorant :D
papitothepumper 3 years ago
Come and tell it to my face you squad, can you people get a life thats my freaking opinion. Get a life or go to suck sonata´s D**L. Jeez you people fill my email acout saying the most stupid things. Thast whats music is about DIFFERENT TASTES i bet none of you can even play any other instrument but guitar. Come on get a girl and F**K her instead of just readind the S**H that people wrte here. GOD
marianoarnaiz 3 years ago
it's not my fault you're talking shit dude.
it is about different tastes, but you are talking about something you don't have the knowledge to do so. it is a fact that henkka doesn't record much of the keyboards in the albums, tony does. against facts there are no arguments.
i f**k my girlfriend everyday - maybe you should apply your suggestion to yourself.
and i can't even play guitar =( but i'm starting. altough i'm the vocalist for two bands.
lol. dude, you really, really need to get laid.
papitothepumper 3 years ago
Um, where you have found this information? It's true (if my memory serves me right) that Tony played the keyboards on Ecliptica and on Winterheart Tales except for solos by Jens Johansson i.e before Harkin or Klingenberg joined.
konked 3 years ago
this song is great! The audio quality of this vid is not, however...
julenissen91 3 years ago
First ecliptica with silence, then winterhearts and reckoning, and now Unia? 5 masterpieces! love them all!
pgahvo 3 years ago
Love this song! - bought the unia album =D
folkmetalhead 3 years ago
in black and white, paid in full and caleb are good songs from unia. i've got problems with the other ones.
i think my very fav sonata song is black sheep
lulalely 3 years ago
what about for the sake of revenge, that is one of my favorites as well but other than that you are right
christhegrvm 3 years ago
ehh no.... definitly not..
i don't know where you were standing but in front the bass was waay to loud.. couldn't hear a thing
besides that sabaton was better.
(and i'm saying this as sonata arctica fan)
Tenrash 3 years ago
i know what you mean. it was almost for every band on main stage... there was always one problem *sniff*
S2DVitez 3 years ago
BEst performance on Graspop this year!
PyroGhost27 3 years ago
I agree! Sonata is the best band ever!
Lihgtsabre 3 years ago
There not only one of the best bands studio wise there also a great band live to.
BlazeKnight33 3 years ago