I know. I even said it's awesome that they did a free gig. Just that the point of this vid was, while the heart of the facebook group may have been in the right place, choosing a song like Rage did more harm to their "real music vs. X-Factor" than good.
Which is why it wiped the floor with the 'Surfin Bird' campaign this year.
Your not missing any point your just an annoying piece of shit. Fuck did you got bullied a lot . Shame you didn't get your head kicked in probably would of doing you a world of good. Anyone can come up with a point. Anyone! So please go into a dark room, stay there, never come out and die. Please
tbc cont lol....... people voted and helped donate £70,000 to the homeless, yet you were here saying not to what kind of SELFISH person are you?! Grow a pair and try to help the fucking world! at the end of the day rage won and simon is giving up being a judge so i think something has actually been achieved already. sony may of got money but the puplic got a choice for who was number 1 rage or xfactor not JUST x factor and funnily enough they DIDNT choose factor FLASHY LIGHTS!!!!! Ollie n Nikki
I'm surprised you have "a pair" to have the audacity to mention events that occurred AFTER this video was made as if they are somehow relevant.
THE PUBLIC ALWAYS HAVE A CHOICE! that's what "buying records or not" is called. If the only thing that beat the X-Factor song is a massively organised campaign then I think that's an incredibly hollow victory.
if music was a level playing field and everyone got paid the same, were promoted the same and everything was created with equal talent and chances of success then children would have to find a personal taste in music, therefore the radio incident wouldnt happen. this was just a small step in bringing down autotuned shit and promoting talented artists and if people didnt rebel at anything the world would be alot worse. not everyone wants to settle for what ever is thrown at them, (tbc)
Pop music has existed as long as commercial music. People harp on about how better music was in the 60's/70's etc. But I don't think this is true, just that nostalgia has rose-tinted specs and a very powerful "bullshit" filter.
It's not like the 2000's are going to be remembered by any auto-tune acts in the next 20 years (and even if they are, it'll be on an ironic "cheesy disco" level of artistic admiration)
@Paranoidave the giving of money to the charity happened before your video was released. if a record company can afford to splash out money on whatever they want the public to buy, fill all media with their material while every band that are workng their balls off to get anywhere by talent, is that fair? besides the fact that they had to be so underhanded to try and beat rage because it wouldnt be their choice which proves my point. Britney will be remembered yet shes autotuned tbc
you will probably find i know alot more about the music industry and how it works so a patronising lecture from a misinformed dick is hardly in order. Being condascending doesnt make you smart.
No. That's why it's called the music INDUSTRY, not the music charity.
What you're saying is that it's somehow "unfair" that the record that sold the most copies is number 1, and that a small minority of self-appointed "people who know better" should have the only say. That's unbelievable arrogance right there, especially when we all know as soon as a legit band gets big, people start to turn on them and accuse them of "selling out" anyway....they can't win with you people.
Mr. Paranoidave... I do believe you were a legend when I first watched your beautiful paraphrasing of "Boat Rudder on the Strange Mountain" by Trivium... and once again ye have not failed us with your fabulously pessimistic outlook on RATM, and as a loyal Rage fan, raise a glas, take off my hat and calmly bow to you for pointing out the entirely paradoxical lyric which was the point in the first place. Well done. Asides, Wake Up would have been better, as it's a better song.
I actually read your DISCLAIMER first and then listened to your nonsense of a video
That's not exactly being opinionated on face value is it?
I can compare you the likes of the 'Leave Britney Alone" guy. Just out looking for attention.
Go ahead, type Shite to everyone who doesn't express the same opinions as you with sweary words in comments. At the end of the day....you're still going to be an idiot
Chammone futha fucka and a Merry Crimbo to you too
I just think it's a bit of fun. I didn't join the group, I didn't buy the single, but was still happy RATM won. It's pretty amazing how a facebook group can generate such publicity and overhaul the X-factor monopoly on the charts. Chuffed!
It seems like the so called enemies of RATM have only one argument and that is "Boo-hoo Sony owns the company boo-hoo" Nobody cares where the message is coming the important thing is that it is coming. RATM and defiance > Another plastic doll from Simon Cowells ass and conformity.
It seems the supporters only have one arguement also.
"Boo-hoo I've only just noticed the X-Factor is shit and sells a lot of copies".
Fairplay, a lot of good came out of it, but a lot of people got behind it for entirely selfish and wrong reasons.
Also "Guerrilla Radio" would've been far FAR more suitable considering the lyrics, but hey, fuck having a message, lets just scream "fuck you" and cause as much fuss as possible.
Mate shut the fuck up moaning, ur embarassing ur self man, and btw most ppl i know voted for rage against the machine n half of them dont even own computers so u are so wrong u fuck shit, so get ur facts right n get yo fat ass off the computer chair n do some ACTUAL research on what the public wants
To the dude who made the video. I read the side bar and have to say Killing in the Name is the best song to counter the shitness of the X-Factor. It says "Fuck you I won't do what you tell me" the only better song I could think of is Sex Pistol's Anarchy in the Uk. It's about saying "fuck you" to the establishment, which we have successfully done. Joe is gonna end up in Butlins anyway, the kid has no future..except getting rape from George Michael ;)
kind of, but the agressive nature of the song only adds to people going "holy shit...that's a bit hardcore for christmas" I mean sure clever lyrics make people think and go "nice one" but having something loud and in your face helps cause the anarchy y'know? I say Sex Pistol's Bodies for next year man ;)
It is and real music is to the majority of people, Punk, grunge, metal, alternative rock, rap, old school R and B. POP is not real music, it's generic brand shit.Swear words aren't juvenile my friend. It's not as if the swear words are in there just for the sake of swearing. FUCK and shit being played in a song is only emphasising emotion, something po0p lacks. Sometimes getting angry is the only option when clever things don't seem to get through. If angry anarchistic music does then so be it.
You seem incapable of putting yourself in the position of someone who enjoys X-Factor stuff.....
THEY don't know it's used to emphasize emotion and all that other stuff...they're just gonna take it face value.....and assume it's a load of juvenile swearing.
Thats why it would've been better to use something more accessible, but still "real" to beat X-Factor with. Bring more pop fans into rock music instead of just alienating them and making the divide bigger.
Look I see your point but the fact is no matter how intelligentlyput an anti-pop song is the dense masses of Britain wont accept it. Anything a bit different they'll shy away from. So you need to give them something that theycan't shy away from, a song that either makes them go "oh!" or "it's just noise!" because that seems to be the only way to get across to these people. Plus it also shows (since Rage won) that the majority of Britain has taste...this could bring altrock back into the charts.
The music industry has changed so much over the last 10 years (downloads, single sales becoming pretty much obsolete) and there's so much more music availble to people now with the internet and everything that a Traditional top 40 is kinda old fashioned......
Alt Rock was only out of the charts in the first place because it's a genre that relies more on Album sales than single sales.
I guess so, but maybe a new band can make altrock more popular again. Kinda like how Nirvana brough AltRock and Grunge into the charts for the first time since punk was dominant.
Grunge is great, I don't know what you;re talkign about, if it wasn't for Nirvana a lot of altrock bands wouldn't have been made popular...grunge broke the mould..it;s better than that shitty emo music.
surely it becoming popular will only enrage those who enjoy its 'underground' image. labels of 'sellout' branded upon anyone who sells more than a few records as can be seen in dnb, (focusing on chase and status/pendulum etc and the predictable over-exposure of dubstep that will occur once the US get a proper grip on it). let the masses keep their charts, i can't say i would of known who the xmas number one would of been if the rage for number 1 group hadn't made the news
I wouldn't say that everybody has "just realised that the charts are taken up with terrible pop music". It's just that nothing like this ever existed for people to vent their frustration at how crap the charts are en masse.
Read Marx man, it's called Dialectical Materialism. Over time "quantitative development becomes qualitative change". It's the natural progression of a revolution.
Love the opinionated rant, but don't agree. The point is that the x-factor isn't number 1. Thats all that matters. It could have been Bob the builder for all I care as long as it's not predictable.
you bitch you honestly think tesco would stoop that low to become tescowell tesco's the most powerful thing since jesus christ himself don't you degrade it like that
I was working on the model of a hypothetical future where a war between ASDA and Tesco breaks out sometime between 2017-2021.
ASDA becomes victorious and Tesco shares plummet, but ever the opportunist, Cowell purchases Tesco (by 2014 he earns £200 mil. a year in royalties because a photo of his face now defines "Arsehole" in the Oxford English Dictionary) and builds it from the ground up as a relentless military power.
I'm all for breaking the x Factor record, I mean myself and other people believe that X Factor has always been perfectly timed to end at christmas time for xmas no.1 and is usually seems hyped up to buggery which seems to overshadow the other songs unfairly. So the fact that this one little internet group has sparked up so much interest it makes me wonder if xfactor for xmas no.1 is all that cracked up to be. I wish a proper xmas song could have been used though rather than RATM.
the money made from the single is going to be given to charity Sony are getting nothing. Also I like ur JedWard idea was good, but the old x-mas was fun/funny that's what people looked forward 2. Come just join the fun of being a dick-head - little late though. I think Queen - bohemian rhapsody should be next up due the the amount of queen songs they have fucked up and destroyed.
so, sony gets money? so what? in the LONG TERM, we are breaking the x factor no1 chain. THATS THE GOAL. and thus xfactor wont have a perfect record. its FUNNY.
I watch xfactor cause its funny i dont buy the tunes afterwards but the rage campaign is hilarious let people have their fun and calm the fuck down, Also i had the micro machines super van city and it was awesome.
And when did I say it was? You think it was when I said "most christmas number ones" the important word here being MOST. (as in The majority of, but NOT ALL of kinda "most")
It was a good song first time round, and I've got no issues with it when it was number 1 in '91 because Mercury hadn't long died so it was a good tribute.
I just dont understand your anger with this group, I personaly think its a brill idea,
just about everyoone at school watches xfactor and most of them are unaware of real music outside the programme,(they are also unaware of the orignal artist of what songs are covered.)
And yeah what an wierd christmas number one it would be, and it might be missing the point of the song but still, I couldn't pick a better song to shout at this new generation of manufactured bassline, xfactor loving numpties of todays music fans, which some of will never get the experience of a propper gig.
why are you deleting all the negative comments? cant you handle freedom of speech? why put your oppioion on here if you cant handle the responses. you missed the point. the profits are going to shelter you fool.
dude, i dont agree with what ur saying, this isnt about profit making for sony or simon, who gives a shit what they earn, simon is rich regardless, this is about ppl standing up for the bullshit that comes from xfactor and gets to number 1 year after fucking year. The song it self has a meaning to what is being done aswell so its the perfect song choice for the cause. But some ppl like their pop which is lame and got shit after the 90's. overplayed song? The shit that comes from the charts...
nowadays is overplayed and is crap imo. Its actually refreshing to have a different singer or band in this case in the charts with potential of being number 1. Its like a big fuck u to simon and xfactor, but to some ppl its stupid ppl from facebook who are supposedly jealous pricks?!? whatever dude, xfactor sucks, at least some original music is hitting the charts.
ps the song joe is singing was originally sung by miley cirus, whats the point if its already been done? talk about originality lol
I wish that was the case, and I wish the Journey Campaign was as big as the rage one.
As I've said before, as much as I like Rage, as much as I hate X-Factor and as much as I want to avoid sounding old fashioned, Killing in the name is just a terribly unsuitable choice of song for Christmas number one, at least "Don't Stop Believing" is something that everyone can enjoy, is a rather uplifting song and at least can be easily appreciated on an ironic level by snobby NME types.
how is that unsuitable? xfactor are basically "telling" the public to buy a single from them every year and it gets to number 1 becos of it. But the song is technically saying (not really, but u know what i mean), fuck that, im not doing what u tell me. So it brings something new this christmas rather than an xfactor song thats gonna get milked into number 1 in the charts.
You're just taking the most simplistic lyrics of the song and quoting them out of context though.....Ironically because a facebook group told you to do so.
Also how much has the music industry has changed in recent years. X-Factor only wins because Sales of singles on the whole has dramatically decreased and very few singles are even released on CD these days.
Only 10 years ago you'd have to sell 500,000+ for a guarenteed number 1. Now it's 1/10th of that.
"You're just taking the most simplistic lyrics of the song and quoting them out of context though.....Ironically because a facebook group told you to do so"
out of context? it makes perfect sense dude, but u dont understand so what ever. if someone told me to fund them to eliminating miley cirus from music i would do, so that point is irrelevant really, either way ur being told to do something, but for a better cause from one than it is the other.
When rage say "Fuck you I won't do what you tell me" they're talking about Corruption in Police Force and in The Government.
When you say "Fuck you I won't do what you tell me" you're talking about a TV programme you have no obligation to watch, and a Christmas single you have no obligation to buy.
And you say I'm the one having trouble understanding?
yeah, iam, becos i already knew that, but it also means having something different and not the same shit, in the video u talk about something else and put the spin on money and cowell, so ur a confused idiot who says two different things.
Erm, since when have X Factor created facebook groups and websites saying words to the effect of "Buy our song to knock the probably #1 off the top spot"? It's just a quite shit pop star releasing a dull cover of a very good pop song, famous because of a show that millions of people watch anyway. If you can find a comparison I'd like to hear it.
People forget it's just a TV programme and if people go out and buy it then it's ultimately their decision. It's not Derren Brown is a guest host and hypnotizes peoplke through the telly, or like Simon Cowell goes out of his way and buys hundreds and thousands of copies of the single himself.
Had facebook been around 10 years ago people would probably think the Spice Girls were "brainwashing" people because they had 3 xmas no1's in a row!!!
stop whining kid... chill out... its about getting a talented, original, unique band to number 1 instead of xfactor shyt... noone really cares about all the shit you go on about in this video corporations, simon cowell etc etc who the fuck cares? its about the music!
btw... comparing a facebook group to the KKK - thats some serious low IQ stuff haha
Ok, I can understand how you might not agree with the facebook group, but how fucking dare you compare us to the KKK. Get your 12 year old arse of youtube.
There's a difference between implying something and explicitly saying it. Just be careful about how you phrase things in the future and I will have no quarrel with thee.
Missing the humour in my remark here as well then.
Mate if you're gonna look up my name on my profile at least do me the courtesy of spelling it right when you type it here. There's a great little copy+paste function we have on computers, considering your MARVELLOUS editing skills I'd have thought you knew it.
Actually yeah it was a great icebreaker when meeting new people and making friends. Worked a charm.
Actually I'm from London, I just go to university in Southampton.
Unfortunately no. Maybe I was lacking the specifics.
What it DOES mean however is that you're far more likely to be a wannabe-muso, indie loving, smug, pretentious, trendy, iPod weilding, Camden bumming, unimaginably boring drone of a human being.
And what are you studying at "Southampton University" anyway, my money's on Art (because obviously you're such a multi-layered multi-talented individual snowflake) or "Media Studies" am I right?
But hey, what do I know, I'm just a "country bumpkin"
Yeah I play music and I've made enough in pug gigs to buy myself a self-tuning Gibson :\ not sure how you're defining "wannabe" but there you go.
I also hate iPods because they're frankly awful at the whole sound quality thing and recognised more as a fashion accessory than an mp3 player.
I'm studying English and Philosophy.
And I'm sorry if I hit a nerve with the whole "wurzel" comment. I went to school in Somerset before here, most of my friends have a West Country accent I love it really.
No nerves hit my friend, I'm a proud west-countryman and if anything it's re-assuring that bits of the accent are still slipping through as I was afraid my "reading off a bit of paper" voice sounded toffish compared to my speaking voice.
If I took stuff I got in youtube comments even remotely seriously, I'd have offed myself long ago.
You should approve of the idea. If only because it might wake 1% the zombified youth of the UK to the fact that they're getting brain washed into believing that the X-Factor represents talent and art.
As for "just realised". There comes a time when people decide that they've sat on the fence for too long. Bravo RITM. And YOU need to take a step back and look at what a pathetic argument you have attemped to make here. You just don't get the point.
The most annoying thing about your videos more than your half arsed opinions is that you think you are Charlie Brooker.
You are an unfunny, uninformed, Westcountry accented cringe-merchant. Internet video blogging is great but maybe choose a different style rather than one that is ripped directly from Charlie Brooker.
Funnily enough YOU'VE missed the point Melvin Moron (nice choice of name by the way, very apt). Considering this whole video is NOT MEANT TO BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY and is just treating the rage campaign with the same disdain they treat the X-Factor for shits and giggles and to piss off pseuds like yourself.
Been writing stuff in this style for the best part of 3-4 years now, so please have the decency to not compare me a columnist you probably only found about last week.
"In 2006 Brooker began writing and presenting his signature TV series Charlie Brooker's Screenwipe on BBC Four, a TV review programme in a similar style to his Screen Burn columns in The Guardian."
Well if you're going to be vague about your numbers ("Been writing in this style for the best part of 3-4 years)... Then consider how long Brooker must have been writing this stuff before it hit TV (add several years for the column in the Guardian) then I think you'll find my point still holds true.
And yes, last time I checked the University of Southampton was a university... So I'm not entirely sure what you're trying to infer with your quotation marks.
well of course your point is true, the man has a good 10 years on me, and I'm pretty sure I don't have my own TV programme.
I was simply saying I'm not directly imitating him, and as I'm not a guardian reader or frequent BBC 4 viewer I wasn't really familiar with his work untill early last year.
I think it doesn't really matter what the song is, and who's making money out of it. The point is to focus on an alternative song, ANY song, to say that the public is sick of the music charts being gamed by the X-Factor every year.
Also, record companies are passing over more talented musicians (i.e. not just singers) because all these X-Factor people are coming to them with ready made audiences. Not good is it.
I know i'd rather have rage at number 1 because people will listen to it long after christmas where as the x-factor guy is never going to be heard of againt. Good Video anyway.
I do however think we should let the bloody kids hear a bit of rage. like ive said before somewhere ' had someone introduced me to rage when i was 6 i would congratulate them now and not have to wonder how much of a retard I was back then.
I do agree with you here. Killing in the name is a good song, but its terribly bad compared to many of Zack's other songs where we can see his poetic ability such as 'maria' and 'people of the sun'. On top of that , like you said, stupid people will use it anyways for completely unrelated stuff.
I haven't actually replied to you yet so please be patient, I'll get to you now.
"then it is a good thing. Surely?"
That has yet to be seen, personally I don't think the end justifies the means as the militaristic "join us or you're a twat who likes the X-Factor" vibe I'm getting off this campaign could be said to be WORSE than Cowells manipulation of the docile masses.
But fuck it, everyone has the wrong impression that this is a serious journalistic video anyway so lets see how this goes.
Thanks for the reply Dave. You're getting a grilling here over what is actually an entertaining and provocative video (enjoy the unexpected responses - it's always good to do something that gets people reacting!) We can be a passionate bunch and personally, I enjoy a damn good debate.
You have a point - these sorts of protest groups often become too much like that which they protest against, and I reel in horror from any form of coercion towards buying into any kind of organised anarchism (deliberately incongruent).
However, it can be equally easy to fall into cynicism. Most people I know are simply buying it because they have loved the song for years, and would like to have a song they love at number 1!
Sometimes it's good not to be cynical about something as pure as that.
That's a fair point and I can't say I have any quarrels about the ideals of the group and the concept of it. Truth be told if it was a track I felt was more suitable to convey the message people were trying to get accross I'd probably join in.
I just feel a song like "Killing in the name" will alienate more people rather than the desired effect of converting them to more artistically motivated music.
And for your information, I am certainly not angry. In fact I'm enjoying the afternoon, sitting here in my slippers, sipping on a lovely cup of green tea and enjoying a festive mince pie.
I have also just asked one of my eldest friends (in case I was so self absorbed I hadn't realised) if I do actually drag my knuckles? They assure me that in the many years they have known me, that I most certainly do not.
Paranoidave, there's are many logical fallacies in your argument but I focus on one point you made in the comments: "...if only one person finds it funny then my job is done."
You admit that RATM are a great band. Surely then if this whole campaign and discussion in the media encourages new people to get into bands like Rage and discover that there is more to music than X-Factor, then it is a good thing. Surely?
I'm actually staggered that this is going over everyones heads.....and they're the ones calling the X-Factor fans mindless masses!!!??
It's obviously exxaggurated, one sided and deliberately inflammatory because thats what I've done in the past.
I just made the mistake of assuming only my subscribers (who are familiar enough with my stuff to know when I'm not being serious) would watch this, not almost 3000 knuckledragging angry twats.
so because all the number 1s in the past have been shit we should carry on letting shit be number 1 or maybe we could try and get an anthem voted in by fans who care about decent music
Real Talk right there !
thrashing666mainiac 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
5:22 is that u?
natheyboi13 8 months ago
End of the day, i went to a free gig and saw RATM. <3
IsaacIsMopped 1 year ago
@IsaacIsMopped
Lovely. Not really relevant, but lovely nonetheless.
Paranoidave 1 year ago
@Paranoidave Well it sort of is, cause of getting it to number 1 caused they did a free gig. That wasn't meant to sound argumentative.
IsaacIsMopped 1 year ago
@IsaacIsMopped
I know. I even said it's awesome that they did a free gig. Just that the point of this vid was, while the heart of the facebook group may have been in the right place, choosing a song like Rage did more harm to their "real music vs. X-Factor" than good.
Which is why it wiped the floor with the 'Surfin Bird' campaign this year.
Paranoidave 1 year ago
Go figure It was Bird is the word this year.....and they failed B-D
amevilee 1 year ago
@amevilee
Figures it would be a song that was played to death in Family Guy for most of 2010. Still, a miles better choice though.
Paranoidave 1 year ago
SUPER VAN CITY FUCK YEAH!
macr0machine 1 year ago
trololo... but really its a great song and thus why eveyone wanted a change from everything
BenThomasFoster 1 year ago
hahaha, very well played
biggles711 1 year ago
This was very funny. Sorry I'm late.
HorridFroth 1 year ago
FUCKING GENIUS! That Was really really good! Keep making videos like this, the pictures and your little comments about everything are funny! 5 stars
zoltan201 1 year ago
I got to see 'em for free, so not complaining now!
AntiJonasZone 1 year ago
I loved the Skins picture you used for 'obnoxious bloody students'. XD
darkbatMori 1 year ago
looks like that facebook group got zulu'd
AeacusCanti 1 year ago
Your not missing any point your just an annoying piece of shit. Fuck did you got bullied a lot . Shame you didn't get your head kicked in probably would of doing you a world of good. Anyone can come up with a point. Anyone! So please go into a dark room, stay there, never come out and die. Please
Lesbotraitor 1 year ago
Excellent video (although your Disclaimer was better left out, stick to your guns!).
xeractus 1 year ago
@xeractus
I totally agree about the disclaimer. Unfortunately a lot of so called "open-minded" music fans find it very hard to make fun of themselves.
Paranoidave 1 year ago
Dude, you crack me up. I haven't laughed so hard in my life. Spot on. I am looking for more of your stuff.
RobertPaschallJr 1 year ago
OVER 9000 :P
Gogetano1 1 year ago
fkin hate rage against the machine!
PizzaVids 1 year ago
I bought several songs by the band Rage. I think I did it wrong. Oh wait, I didn't.
meepage332 1 year ago
RATM PWNED the x factor :D
zeppelinrulez22 2 years ago
I helped Rage get the Xmas No.1 simply because I thought it would be a laugh.
soulofshiver 2 years ago
tbc cont lol....... people voted and helped donate £70,000 to the homeless, yet you were here saying not to what kind of SELFISH person are you?! Grow a pair and try to help the fucking world! at the end of the day rage won and simon is giving up being a judge so i think something has actually been achieved already. sony may of got money but the puplic got a choice for who was number 1 rage or xfactor not JUST x factor and funnily enough they DIDNT choose factor FLASHY LIGHTS!!!!! Ollie n Nikki
gismodumdum 2 years ago
I'm surprised you have "a pair" to have the audacity to mention events that occurred AFTER this video was made as if they are somehow relevant.
THE PUBLIC ALWAYS HAVE A CHOICE! that's what "buying records or not" is called. If the only thing that beat the X-Factor song is a massively organised campaign then I think that's an incredibly hollow victory.
(tbc)
Paranoidave 2 years ago
if music was a level playing field and everyone got paid the same, were promoted the same and everything was created with equal talent and chances of success then children would have to find a personal taste in music, therefore the radio incident wouldnt happen. this was just a small step in bringing down autotuned shit and promoting talented artists and if people didnt rebel at anything the world would be alot worse. not everyone wants to settle for what ever is thrown at them, (tbc)
gismodumdum 2 years ago
also....
Pop music has existed as long as commercial music. People harp on about how better music was in the 60's/70's etc. But I don't think this is true, just that nostalgia has rose-tinted specs and a very powerful "bullshit" filter.
It's not like the 2000's are going to be remembered by any auto-tune acts in the next 20 years (and even if they are, it'll be on an ironic "cheesy disco" level of artistic admiration)
Paranoidave 2 years ago
@Paranoidave the giving of money to the charity happened before your video was released. if a record company can afford to splash out money on whatever they want the public to buy, fill all media with their material while every band that are workng their balls off to get anywhere by talent, is that fair? besides the fact that they had to be so underhanded to try and beat rage because it wouldnt be their choice which proves my point. Britney will be remembered yet shes autotuned tbc
gismodumdum 2 years ago
you will probably find i know alot more about the music industry and how it works so a patronising lecture from a misinformed dick is hardly in order. Being condascending doesnt make you smart.
gismodumdum 2 years ago
"you will probably find i know a lot more about the music industry"
But I thought being condescending DIDN'T make you smart......?
Paranoidave 2 years ago
"is that fair?"
No. That's why it's called the music INDUSTRY, not the music charity.
What you're saying is that it's somehow "unfair" that the record that sold the most copies is number 1, and that a small minority of self-appointed "people who know better" should have the only say. That's unbelievable arrogance right there, especially when we all know as soon as a legit band gets big, people start to turn on them and accuse them of "selling out" anyway....they can't win with you people.
Paranoidave 2 years ago
I love your jab at Robbie Williams,sadly I enjoy him
Nick1Only 1 year ago
Mr. Paranoidave... I do believe you were a legend when I first watched your beautiful paraphrasing of "Boat Rudder on the Strange Mountain" by Trivium... and once again ye have not failed us with your fabulously pessimistic outlook on RATM, and as a loyal Rage fan, raise a glas, take off my hat and calmly bow to you for pointing out the entirely paradoxical lyric which was the point in the first place. Well done. Asides, Wake Up would have been better, as it's a better song.
theayatollahddogg 2 years ago
lol nice video, I had a similar point of view before it actually happened :P
Roodypoo999 2 years ago
Although I'm a bit late on watching this video this pretty much highlights how I felt about the whole ordeal, so well done!
artinyyk 2 years ago
I backed RATM. Just because it's rather funny. And now we get a free gig as well. Lovely.
TheKraig 2 years ago
dickhead
redhotsuperskunk 2 years ago
1:20 trippy as fucking balls holy shit it made me nauseous.
GodinSDXTguitars 2 years ago
sorry, ignore 'jumped up cocky', i'll just go with 'student'.
semieden 2 years ago
btw, the guy below the facebook logo (the middle one) looks like chauncey billups. O_o
youngbloodmafia02 2 years ago
LoL this has some point.. SOME...
youngbloodmafia02 2 years ago
What an over opinionated TWAT you really are Paranoidave
You're ramblings, utterly, and truly make you sound stupid.
This video response was just a terrible idea and your snobbery is rather childish.
Go You!! ha
pod3249 2 years ago
wow someone with a "Bo' Selecta" Icon calling anything else stupid and childish?.......
You might as well have just said
"Wah Wah Wah I couldn't be arsed to look beyond face value and throw all my toys out the pram"
Have a "Proper Chrimbo" on me you daft pillock.
Paranoidave 2 years ago
I actually read your DISCLAIMER first and then listened to your nonsense of a video
That's not exactly being opinionated on face value is it?
I can compare you the likes of the 'Leave Britney Alone" guy. Just out looking for attention.
Go ahead, type Shite to everyone who doesn't express the same opinions as you with sweary words in comments. At the end of the day....you're still going to be an idiot
Chammone futha fucka and a Merry Crimbo to you too
pod3249 2 years ago
well I don't think that's true......because then you're calling me "An opinionated twat" for the ever-so-attention-seeking contraversial opinion of..
"Its funny but they should've used a better song"
Oh my, what an opinionated cynical bastard I am huh?
Paranoidave 2 years ago
I <3 your British accent.
Regdot 2 years ago 2
lol
natheyboi13 2 years ago
I just think it's a bit of fun. I didn't join the group, I didn't buy the single, but was still happy RATM won. It's pretty amazing how a facebook group can generate such publicity and overhaul the X-factor monopoly on the charts. Chuffed!
lucazade666 2 years ago
i am so glad ratm got christmas no.1
glint20 2 years ago
YOU SUFFER by napalm death for xmas number 1 2010, only joking and I agree with everything in this video
redburp 2 years ago
It seems like the so called enemies of RATM have only one argument and that is "Boo-hoo Sony owns the company boo-hoo" Nobody cares where the message is coming the important thing is that it is coming. RATM and defiance > Another plastic doll from Simon Cowells ass and conformity.
Manofactor 2 years ago
Hell yes!
=-)
JPBStory 2 years ago
It seems the supporters only have one arguement also.
"Boo-hoo I've only just noticed the X-Factor is shit and sells a lot of copies".
Fairplay, a lot of good came out of it, but a lot of people got behind it for entirely selfish and wrong reasons.
Also "Guerrilla Radio" would've been far FAR more suitable considering the lyrics, but hey, fuck having a message, lets just scream "fuck you" and cause as much fuss as possible.
Paranoidave 2 years ago
Mate shut the fuck up moaning, ur embarassing ur self man, and btw most ppl i know voted for rage against the machine n half of them dont even own computers so u are so wrong u fuck shit, so get ur facts right n get yo fat ass off the computer chair n do some ACTUAL research on what the public wants
BeautifulDisasterist 2 years ago 2
......how the fuck did people who don't own computer buy a download only single you fucking shithead?
Also, I'm pretty sure whenever X-Factor got to number 1 in the past, it's because THE PUBLIC watched the show and THE PUBLIC bought the records.
"Oh wait, that's the public that doesn't agree with our juvenile cause, they're the wrong sort of public....."
Paranoidave 2 years ago
Fuck me your cynicism is really annoying.
semieden 2 years ago
fuck me, your inability to read is annoying.
Paranoidave 2 years ago
@Paranoidave
You sound like a jumped up cocky student trying way too hard to be like Charlie Brooker. :)) Sorry mate.
semieden 2 years ago
@semieden I like him, i think hes hawt
zoe409 2 years ago
paranoidave... ur a cunt but a funny one at that. pissed myself at the tescowell bit. Rock on rage! merry xmas
technotrig89 2 years ago
This guy is an over-intellectualising tool.
njsargent 2 years ago
To the dude who made the video. I read the side bar and have to say Killing in the Name is the best song to counter the shitness of the X-Factor. It says "Fuck you I won't do what you tell me" the only better song I could think of is Sex Pistol's Anarchy in the Uk. It's about saying "fuck you" to the establishment, which we have successfully done. Joe is gonna end up in Butlins anyway, the kid has no future..except getting rape from George Michael ;)
piemakesmelol 2 years ago
@piemakesmelol
but in my opinion the most effective "fuck yous" are tasteful and subtle and more humorous than just angry...
see where I'm coming from?
Paranoidave 2 years ago
kind of, but the agressive nature of the song only adds to people going "holy shit...that's a bit hardcore for christmas" I mean sure clever lyrics make people think and go "nice one" but having something loud and in your face helps cause the anarchy y'know? I say Sex Pistol's Bodies for next year man ;)
piemakesmelol 2 years ago
But I thought the idea of the campaign was to "Bring real music back to the charts" or some such statement....
....not "make real music look like a bunch of juvenile swear words".
That just makes more people side with X-Factor because it's innoffensive and accessible, the cause needs a soft touch, not sonic "Shock and Awe"
Paranoidave 2 years ago
It is and real music is to the majority of people, Punk, grunge, metal, alternative rock, rap, old school R and B. POP is not real music, it's generic brand shit.Swear words aren't juvenile my friend. It's not as if the swear words are in there just for the sake of swearing. FUCK and shit being played in a song is only emphasising emotion, something po0p lacks. Sometimes getting angry is the only option when clever things don't seem to get through. If angry anarchistic music does then so be it.
piemakesmelol 2 years ago
You seem incapable of putting yourself in the position of someone who enjoys X-Factor stuff.....
THEY don't know it's used to emphasize emotion and all that other stuff...they're just gonna take it face value.....and assume it's a load of juvenile swearing.
Thats why it would've been better to use something more accessible, but still "real" to beat X-Factor with. Bring more pop fans into rock music instead of just alienating them and making the divide bigger.
Paranoidave 2 years ago
Look I see your point but the fact is no matter how intelligentlyput an anti-pop song is the dense masses of Britain wont accept it. Anything a bit different they'll shy away from. So you need to give them something that theycan't shy away from, a song that either makes them go "oh!" or "it's just noise!" because that seems to be the only way to get across to these people. Plus it also shows (since Rage won) that the majority of Britain has taste...this could bring altrock back into the charts.
piemakesmelol 2 years ago
I don't think that'll ever happen.
The music industry has changed so much over the last 10 years (downloads, single sales becoming pretty much obsolete) and there's so much more music availble to people now with the internet and everything that a Traditional top 40 is kinda old fashioned......
Alt Rock was only out of the charts in the first place because it's a genre that relies more on Album sales than single sales.
Paranoidave 2 years ago
I guess so, but maybe a new band can make altrock more popular again. Kinda like how Nirvana brough AltRock and Grunge into the charts for the first time since punk was dominant.
Essentially, we need a new Nirvana :(
Heres hoping we'll get one.
piemakesmelol 2 years ago
@piemakesmelol We dont need a new Nirvana. One was bad enough. Grunge is a shit stain on rock music.
ironbawsmcginty 2 years ago
Grunge is great, I don't know what you;re talkign about, if it wasn't for Nirvana a lot of altrock bands wouldn't have been made popular...grunge broke the mould..it;s better than that shitty emo music.
piemakesmelol 2 years ago
surely it becoming popular will only enrage those who enjoy its 'underground' image. labels of 'sellout' branded upon anyone who sells more than a few records as can be seen in dnb, (focusing on chase and status/pendulum etc and the predictable over-exposure of dubstep that will occur once the US get a proper grip on it). let the masses keep their charts, i can't say i would of known who the xmas number one would of been if the rage for number 1 group hadn't made the news
wakeyskate 2 years ago
I wouldn't say that everybody has "just realised that the charts are taken up with terrible pop music". It's just that nothing like this ever existed for people to vent their frustration at how crap the charts are en masse.
Read Marx man, it's called Dialectical Materialism. Over time "quantitative development becomes qualitative change". It's the natural progression of a revolution.
That's what happened here today.
Merry Ragemas.
DiRoXmas 2 years ago
Its all about Stopping X factor being Number 1 AGAIN! Ha ha ha we stuffed them F U JOE!
Hixxy22 2 years ago
Love the opinionated rant, but don't agree. The point is that the x-factor isn't number 1. Thats all that matters. It could have been Bob the builder for all I care as long as it's not predictable.
Keep ranting
TheRealFrankTate 2 years ago
hell yea! rage done it!!
TheEvilPrincess1 2 years ago
Rage did it...gutted
Just goes to show that the 'people' don't actually want this sterile pop music that the big 'pop' artists are chucking out.
stevey2020 2 years ago
fuck you hater
FutureOwnage 2 years ago
you bitch you honestly think tesco would stoop that low to become tescowell tesco's the most powerful thing since jesus christ himself don't you degrade it like that
bobzulu 2 years ago
@bobzulu
I was working on the model of a hypothetical future where a war between ASDA and Tesco breaks out sometime between 2017-2021.
ASDA becomes victorious and Tesco shares plummet, but ever the opportunist, Cowell purchases Tesco (by 2014 he earns £200 mil. a year in royalties because a photo of his face now defines "Arsehole" in the Oxford English Dictionary) and builds it from the ground up as a relentless military power.
Paranoidave 2 years ago
Gutted...
SuperhelterYNWA 2 years ago
RAGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
robkay9 2 years ago
I'm all for breaking the x Factor record, I mean myself and other people believe that X Factor has always been perfectly timed to end at christmas time for xmas no.1 and is usually seems hyped up to buggery which seems to overshadow the other songs unfairly. So the fact that this one little internet group has sparked up so much interest it makes me wonder if xfactor for xmas no.1 is all that cracked up to be. I wish a proper xmas song could have been used though rather than RATM.
Parasite1101 2 years ago
the money made from the single is going to be given to charity Sony are getting nothing. Also I like ur JedWard idea was good, but the old x-mas was fun/funny that's what people looked forward 2. Come just join the fun of being a dick-head - little late though. I think Queen - bohemian rhapsody should be next up due the the amount of queen songs they have fucked up and destroyed.
1La50 2 years ago
@1La50 Might not be all the money is going to charity but some is not to sure how much
1La50 2 years ago
COME ON RAGE
Mazorma 2 years ago
so, sony gets money? so what? in the LONG TERM, we are breaking the x factor no1 chain. THATS THE GOAL. and thus xfactor wont have a perfect record. its FUNNY.
RachyRooM 2 years ago 4
You're aware what long term and short term mean right?
Paranoidave 2 years ago
Ku, not Klu.
Aggiechilds 2 years ago
Its a bit of fun chill the fuck out,
I watch xfactor cause its funny i dont buy the tunes afterwards but the rage campaign is hilarious let people have their fun and calm the fuck down, Also i had the micro machines super van city and it was awesome.
Peace out
ampswt 2 years ago
your an idiot.
theres no way you can say that bohiemium rhapsody was a crap christmas number 1
mortcm 2 years ago
*bohemian
And when did I say it was? You think it was when I said "most christmas number ones" the important word here being MOST. (as in The majority of, but NOT ALL of kinda "most")
It was a good song first time round, and I've got no issues with it when it was number 1 in '91 because Mercury hadn't long died so it was a good tribute.
Paranoidave 2 years ago
I thought you say that.
fair point. Sorry for jumping to conclusions
oh and thanks for thhe spell check :L
I just dont understand your anger with this group, I personaly think its a brill idea,
just about everyoone at school watches xfactor and most of them are unaware of real music outside the programme,(they are also unaware of the orignal artist of what songs are covered.)
mortcm 2 years ago
And yeah what an wierd christmas number one it would be, and it might be missing the point of the song but still, I couldn't pick a better song to shout at this new generation of manufactured bassline, xfactor loving numpties of todays music fans, which some of will never get the experience of a propper gig.
mortcm 2 years ago
why are you deleting all the negative comments? cant you handle freedom of speech? why put your oppioion on here if you cant handle the responses. you missed the point. the profits are going to shelter you fool.
binsybobs666 2 years ago
I'm not deleting ANY comments you mong.
Just because they get pushed off the front page by other people and me responding to them doesn't mean they're being deleted.....
If I was bothered by negative comments I would've just made it so no-one could comment or that every comment would be "pending approval"
It would've taken you less time to just go on "show all comments" you know that right?
Paranoidave 2 years ago
@ Paranoidave
'sup? Fancy meeting you here.
ramma77 2 years ago
oh hi! :D
Paranoidave 2 years ago
OH HAI ! XD
Pa55morE 2 years ago
dude, i dont agree with what ur saying, this isnt about profit making for sony or simon, who gives a shit what they earn, simon is rich regardless, this is about ppl standing up for the bullshit that comes from xfactor and gets to number 1 year after fucking year. The song it self has a meaning to what is being done aswell so its the perfect song choice for the cause. But some ppl like their pop which is lame and got shit after the 90's. overplayed song? The shit that comes from the charts...
Draken4426 2 years ago
nowadays is overplayed and is crap imo. Its actually refreshing to have a different singer or band in this case in the charts with potential of being number 1. Its like a big fuck u to simon and xfactor, but to some ppl its stupid ppl from facebook who are supposedly jealous pricks?!? whatever dude, xfactor sucks, at least some original music is hitting the charts.
ps the song joe is singing was originally sung by miley cirus, whats the point if its already been done? talk about originality lol
Draken4426 2 years ago
my money's on don't stop believing winning
Silverw1ng 2 years ago
I wish that was the case, and I wish the Journey Campaign was as big as the rage one.
As I've said before, as much as I like Rage, as much as I hate X-Factor and as much as I want to avoid sounding old fashioned, Killing in the name is just a terribly unsuitable choice of song for Christmas number one, at least "Don't Stop Believing" is something that everyone can enjoy, is a rather uplifting song and at least can be easily appreciated on an ironic level by snobby NME types.
Paranoidave 2 years ago
@Paranoidave
"now they do what they tell you"
how is that unsuitable? xfactor are basically "telling" the public to buy a single from them every year and it gets to number 1 becos of it. But the song is technically saying (not really, but u know what i mean), fuck that, im not doing what u tell me. So it brings something new this christmas rather than an xfactor song thats gonna get milked into number 1 in the charts.
Draken4426 2 years ago
You're just taking the most simplistic lyrics of the song and quoting them out of context though.....Ironically because a facebook group told you to do so.
Also how much has the music industry has changed in recent years. X-Factor only wins because Sales of singles on the whole has dramatically decreased and very few singles are even released on CD these days.
Only 10 years ago you'd have to sell 500,000+ for a guarenteed number 1. Now it's 1/10th of that.
Paranoidave 2 years ago
@Paranoidave
"You're just taking the most simplistic lyrics of the song and quoting them out of context though.....Ironically because a facebook group told you to do so"
out of context? it makes perfect sense dude, but u dont understand so what ever. if someone told me to fund them to eliminating miley cirus from music i would do, so that point is irrelevant really, either way ur being told to do something, but for a better cause from one than it is the other.
Draken4426 2 years ago
When rage say "Fuck you I won't do what you tell me" they're talking about Corruption in Police Force and in The Government.
When you say "Fuck you I won't do what you tell me" you're talking about a TV programme you have no obligation to watch, and a Christmas single you have no obligation to buy.
And you say I'm the one having trouble understanding?
Paranoidave 2 years ago
@Paranoidave
yeah, iam, becos i already knew that, but it also means having something different and not the same shit, in the video u talk about something else and put the spin on money and cowell, so ur a confused idiot who says two different things.
Draken4426 2 years ago
"but it also means having something different and not the same shit"
*sigh*
Which is why I said I agree with the IDEA of the group...are you not listening to a word I'm saying?
Now ignoring the X-factor, ignoring the "rebellion" of it, just taking it as a song in it's own right.....
How can you possibly think a song that deals with the issues "Killing in the Name" deals with is appropriate for Christmas?
Paranoidave 2 years ago
Erm, since when have X Factor created facebook groups and websites saying words to the effect of "Buy our song to knock the probably #1 off the top spot"? It's just a quite shit pop star releasing a dull cover of a very good pop song, famous because of a show that millions of people watch anyway. If you can find a comparison I'd like to hear it.
PaulyPlz 2 years ago
Thank god, finally a voice of reason!!
People forget it's just a TV programme and if people go out and buy it then it's ultimately their decision. It's not Derren Brown is a guest host and hypnotizes peoplke through the telly, or like Simon Cowell goes out of his way and buys hundreds and thousands of copies of the single himself.
Had facebook been around 10 years ago people would probably think the Spice Girls were "brainwashing" people because they had 3 xmas no1's in a row!!!
Paranoidave 2 years ago
pretentious twaddle. you got far too much time on your hands mate. dont over analyze things, it tends to spoil them.
izigga 2 years ago
stop whining kid... chill out... its about getting a talented, original, unique band to number 1 instead of xfactor shyt... noone really cares about all the shit you go on about in this video corporations, simon cowell etc etc who the fuck cares? its about the music!
btw... comparing a facebook group to the KKK - thats some serious low IQ stuff haha
GARYTHENOTRASHC0UGAR 2 years ago 2
What a C**t !!!!
firecom1245 2 years ago
holy shit you're annoying!
comfortablynumb4 2 years ago
my god... slap this spotty cunt
justabloke1 2 years ago
Horrid self indulgent pretensive intellectual. Spoty little virgin who still lives at home with his mum.
Ignore the cunt
justabloke1 2 years ago
Ok, I can understand how you might not agree with the facebook group, but how fucking dare you compare us to the KKK. Get your 12 year old arse of youtube.
Scuzzy89 2 years ago 2
.....I never did that, some daft twat just misunderstood what I said.
All I said is that the song "Killing in the name" was written against the KKK.....thats as far as it went.
If you're going to dislike me fine...but don't do so for a reason you made up.
Paranoidave 2 years ago
There's a difference between implying something and explicitly saying it. Just be careful about how you phrase things in the future and I will have no quarrel with thee.
Scuzzy89 2 years ago
Raaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaggggggggggggge.
usernameofnobody 2 years ago
Missing the point somewhat here.
Ah well, wouldn't expect better from a wurzel.
vaugjo 2 years ago 4
I'd be pissed off if I was called "Johnny Vaughn" as well.
School must've been fun right? Everyone asking how your "Big Breakfast" was?
I'd oblige your compliment and compare you to a famous band from Southampton.....but...you know.....slim pickings.
Paranoidave 2 years ago
Missing the humour in my remark here as well then.
Mate if you're gonna look up my name on my profile at least do me the courtesy of spelling it right when you type it here. There's a great little copy+paste function we have on computers, considering your MARVELLOUS editing skills I'd have thought you knew it.
Actually yeah it was a great icebreaker when meeting new people and making friends. Worked a charm.
Actually I'm from London, I just go to university in Southampton.
So take your pick.
vaugjo 2 years ago
"Actually I'm from London"
oooohhhh riiight.
That explains everything. ;)
Paranoidave 2 years ago
What that I'm just that little bit wittier than you?
No that's got nothing to do with my being from London I'm afraid.
Good first guess though, feel free to play again :)
vaugjo 2 years ago
Unfortunately no. Maybe I was lacking the specifics.
What it DOES mean however is that you're far more likely to be a wannabe-muso, indie loving, smug, pretentious, trendy, iPod weilding, Camden bumming, unimaginably boring drone of a human being.
And what are you studying at "Southampton University" anyway, my money's on Art (because obviously you're such a multi-layered multi-talented individual snowflake) or "Media Studies" am I right?
But hey, what do I know, I'm just a "country bumpkin"
Paranoidave 2 years ago
Yeah I play music and I've made enough in pug gigs to buy myself a self-tuning Gibson :\ not sure how you're defining "wannabe" but there you go.
I also hate iPods because they're frankly awful at the whole sound quality thing and recognised more as a fashion accessory than an mp3 player.
I'm studying English and Philosophy.
And I'm sorry if I hit a nerve with the whole "wurzel" comment. I went to school in Somerset before here, most of my friends have a West Country accent I love it really.
vaugjo 2 years ago
And of course by pug, I naturally mean pub.
Arsing laptop keyboard.
vaugjo 2 years ago
No nerves hit my friend, I'm a proud west-countryman and if anything it's re-assuring that bits of the accent are still slipping through as I was afraid my "reading off a bit of paper" voice sounded toffish compared to my speaking voice.
If I took stuff I got in youtube comments even remotely seriously, I'd have offed myself long ago.
Apology accepted though. *internet handshake*
Paranoidave 2 years ago
You should approve of the idea. If only because it might wake 1% the zombified youth of the UK to the fact that they're getting brain washed into believing that the X-Factor represents talent and art.
As for "just realised". There comes a time when people decide that they've sat on the fence for too long. Bravo RITM. And YOU need to take a step back and look at what a pathetic argument you have attemped to make here. You just don't get the point.
Roystonc123 2 years ago 2
Actually Dave is trying to mimick the superb video game pundit Ben "Yahtzee" Croshaw .
The glaring difference is Yahtzee is funny, Dave is just fucking dogshit.
lofepramine 2 years ago
You've utterly missed the point here, Dave.
You are not Charlie Brooker.
The most annoying thing about your videos more than your half arsed opinions is that you think you are Charlie Brooker.
You are an unfunny, uninformed, Westcountry accented cringe-merchant. Internet video blogging is great but maybe choose a different style rather than one that is ripped directly from Charlie Brooker.
melvinmoron 2 years ago 6
@melvinmoron he hasnt got a west country accent hes got a posh retard accent
7obscenity7 2 years ago 2
@7obscenity7 It's the former with an attempt to disguise it with the latter :]
vaugjo 2 years ago
Funnily enough YOU'VE missed the point Melvin Moron (nice choice of name by the way, very apt). Considering this whole video is NOT MEANT TO BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY and is just treating the rage campaign with the same disdain they treat the X-Factor for shits and giggles and to piss off pseuds like yourself.
Been writing stuff in this style for the best part of 3-4 years now, so please have the decency to not compare me a columnist you probably only found about last week.
Paranoidave 2 years ago
"In 2006 Brooker began writing and presenting his signature TV series Charlie Brooker's Screenwipe on BBC Four, a TV review programme in a similar style to his Screen Burn columns in The Guardian."
Think he beat you to the post buddy.
vaugjo 2 years ago
well considering you're in "University" I'm guessing you have at least a Year 8 grasp of basic maths no?
2009 - 4 = 2005
Paranoidave 2 years ago
Well if you're going to be vague about your numbers ("Been writing in this style for the best part of 3-4 years)... Then consider how long Brooker must have been writing this stuff before it hit TV (add several years for the column in the Guardian) then I think you'll find my point still holds true.
And yes, last time I checked the University of Southampton was a university... So I'm not entirely sure what you're trying to infer with your quotation marks.
vaugjo 2 years ago
well of course your point is true, the man has a good 10 years on me, and I'm pretty sure I don't have my own TV programme.
I was simply saying I'm not directly imitating him, and as I'm not a guardian reader or frequent BBC 4 viewer I wasn't really familiar with his work untill early last year.
Paranoidave 2 years ago
Hmm well in that case fair dos.
But to be honest you can't blame people for assuming otherwise, it seems pretty derivative even if it's not. Peace.
vaugjo 2 years ago
I'm not gonna say there wasn't a slight non-intentional influence.
But it's not like the man owns the monopoly for angry/wordy ranting, that trophy belongs to Jeremy Clarkson (in his own mind at least)
Paranoidave 2 years ago
the ironicly sad thing is... southampton isn't really a real university... it was a polytechnic untill fairly recently.
ryangaston88 2 years ago
I think you're thinking of Southampton Solent actually.
They're a different institution in the same town.
vaugjo 2 years ago
You've been 'writing' in the style of a shit Charlie Brooker for 3-4 years? Wow, since you were ten years old.
When you see this many comments telling you what an irritating wanker you are don't you ever feel like topping yourself?
melvinmoron 2 years ago
I see what you did there, a clever little maths joke! :D have yourself a gold star and a biscuit I'm sure your teacher would be so proud!
Not really, because winding up smarmy twats like yourself is good for some seasonal chuckles.
Paranoidave 2 years ago
I think it doesn't really matter what the song is, and who's making money out of it. The point is to focus on an alternative song, ANY song, to say that the public is sick of the music charts being gamed by the X-Factor every year.
Also, record companies are passing over more talented musicians (i.e. not just singers) because all these X-Factor people are coming to them with ready made audiences. Not good is it.
DavidRGilson 2 years ago 2
^
I totally agree,
I just happen to think rage (as much as I love them) was a kinda distasteful and inappropriate choice.
Paranoidave 2 years ago
I know i'd rather have rage at number 1 because people will listen to it long after christmas where as the x-factor guy is never going to be heard of againt. Good Video anyway.
assassinscreed112 2 years ago 2
Now there's a knuckle-dragger! (Wildchild)
pariahreturns 2 years ago
haha. Yopu gotta love it though.
Paranoidave 2 years ago
FUCK OFF U CUNT
Wildchild880 2 years ago 3
I do however think we should let the bloody kids hear a bit of rage. like ive said before somewhere ' had someone introduced me to rage when i was 6 i would congratulate them now and not have to wonder how much of a retard I was back then.
radicalhit 2 years ago
I do agree with you here. Killing in the name is a good song, but its terribly bad compared to many of Zack's other songs where we can see his poetic ability such as 'maria' and 'people of the sun'. On top of that , like you said, stupid people will use it anyways for completely unrelated stuff.
radicalhit 2 years ago
P.S. I can send you a photograph of my aforementioned never-been-dragged and scuff/scar free knuckles as a form of proof if necessary.
Festive wishes x
pariahreturns 2 years ago
I haven't actually replied to you yet so please be patient, I'll get to you now.
"then it is a good thing. Surely?"
That has yet to be seen, personally I don't think the end justifies the means as the militaristic "join us or you're a twat who likes the X-Factor" vibe I'm getting off this campaign could be said to be WORSE than Cowells manipulation of the docile masses.
But fuck it, everyone has the wrong impression that this is a serious journalistic video anyway so lets see how this goes.
Paranoidave 2 years ago
Thanks for the reply Dave. You're getting a grilling here over what is actually an entertaining and provocative video (enjoy the unexpected responses - it's always good to do something that gets people reacting!) We can be a passionate bunch and personally, I enjoy a damn good debate.
pariahreturns 2 years ago
You have a point - these sorts of protest groups often become too much like that which they protest against, and I reel in horror from any form of coercion towards buying into any kind of organised anarchism (deliberately incongruent).
However, it can be equally easy to fall into cynicism. Most people I know are simply buying it because they have loved the song for years, and would like to have a song they love at number 1!
Sometimes it's good not to be cynical about something as pure as that.
pariahreturns 2 years ago
That's a fair point and I can't say I have any quarrels about the ideals of the group and the concept of it. Truth be told if it was a track I felt was more suitable to convey the message people were trying to get accross I'd probably join in.
I just feel a song like "Killing in the name" will alienate more people rather than the desired effect of converting them to more artistically motivated music.
Paranoidave 2 years ago
And for your information, I am certainly not angry. In fact I'm enjoying the afternoon, sitting here in my slippers, sipping on a lovely cup of green tea and enjoying a festive mince pie.
I have also just asked one of my eldest friends (in case I was so self absorbed I hadn't realised) if I do actually drag my knuckles? They assure me that in the many years they have known me, that I most certainly do not.
pariahreturns 2 years ago
Good points, well made.
JRHartly1984 2 years ago
Paranoidave, there's are many logical fallacies in your argument but I focus on one point you made in the comments: "...if only one person finds it funny then my job is done."
You admit that RATM are a great band. Surely then if this whole campaign and discussion in the media encourages new people to get into bands like Rage and discover that there is more to music than X-Factor, then it is a good thing. Surely?
pariahreturns 2 years ago
Stop trying to be Yahtzee you're just not. I'll say this once and once only ITS A BIT OF FUN LIGHTEN UP!!!
bealec 2 years ago
Somebodys been reading NME, no points here that havent already been stated severel times.
rossbain123 2 years ago
wow your gay
geniusgza7 2 years ago
I love reading these comments.Just shows how narrow minded and petty people are.
xImarjanIx 2 years ago
I'm actually staggered that this is going over everyones heads.....and they're the ones calling the X-Factor fans mindless masses!!!??
It's obviously exxaggurated, one sided and deliberately inflammatory because thats what I've done in the past.
I just made the mistake of assuming only my subscribers (who are familiar enough with my stuff to know when I'm not being serious) would watch this, not almost 3000 knuckledragging angry twats.
Paranoidave 2 years ago
yeah its just 2 sides of the same coin.Either that or micromachines van city brings back repressed memories your viewers.
xImarjanIx 2 years ago
so because all the number 1s in the past have been shit we should carry on letting shit be number 1 or maybe we could try and get an anthem voted in by fans who care about decent music
zeratul1987 2 years ago
what a tosser
GrannysNicks 2 years ago
'Acedemy'.
Pretty much sums up your effort, Paranoidave. Leave it to professionals, eh?
bigbadvincentvega 2 years ago
Paranoidave you are completely missing the point of this campaign, everybody just thinks you're a massive cock
palarce 2 years ago