Allan Bloom on Nietzsche 1983 (1 of 5)

[1theforest]

Tha, tha, tha, thats right!!

[jessyjessy4]

some great inforamtion here thanks

[gmayer66]

This is Allan Bloom?? There was barely a coherent sentence in the whole recording! He is jumping from one thought to the next, not completing most of his sentences, ungrammatically ramming them into the following sentences.

[ieatwiteoutforfun]

I love Boston College

[Division1985]

I didn't know much about Nietzsche until I read books Robert Greene book (he quoted Nietzsche quite a few times). I read Bloom's Closing of the American Mind last year. So that being said...Thanks for the reference, fellas.

[TheDavid2222]

Damn I like you! LOL I very rarely converse with like minded people on Youtube.

[TheDavid2222]

@bxjam85 to change their minds. Even if they understand a person of faith usually clings to juxtaposing ideas in order to secure their own emotional well being. I have found this to be true. I get very close to pitying them for their self imposed ignorance.

[TheDavid2222]

I've tried explaining Nietzsche philosophy to a Christian and I found it to be impossible. It's a frustrating experience. Anybody else ever run into that situation?

[Urdoxa]

criminally stupid self righteous piss poor interpretation

[Cassyan]

The pictures of him are a little bit misleading but hearing him speak it seems to me he is a cool guy.

[f1ghtclub2k3]

I wrote a paper on this a brilliant paper and the director came down and crushed me because of it and her own ideologies that were being challenged...it sucks when you you actually get Nietzsche because from that moment on life becomes more and more lonely...anyone feel the same way? The universities have absolutely lost their soul and fire...

[tommybrown187]

@f1ghtclub2k3 i do know. The more you know the lonlier life becomes. I guess thats why they say "ignorance is bliss"

[TheDavid2222]

@tommybrown187 you could also argue that ignorance is only a cause of suffering like the Buddhists do.

[ruckenfigur]

@f1ghtclub2k3 I have a contention against saying getting Nietzsche makes life seem lonely. His Zarathustra character occasionally battles loneliness and searches for higher men. I don't think Nietzsche encourages loneliness but instead addresses the loneliness a higher man would experience. I would say to get Nietzsche means to overcome loneliness. Nietzsche provides lonely higher men a means to commune with nature and with the future.

[msg06769]

who the fuck is this guy. nietzsche hated americans.

[NORMANGODS]

that picture of nietzsche at 3:20 is a freemasonic gesture,anybody know anything about nietzsche and freemasonry?

[MrPontiusPilate]

@NORMANGODS

That's not a gesture of the freemasons though some freemasons may have used it. It was very widespread among the general population.

[bahramf]

The most important author in the last 200 years Bloom.

[DAVID3766]

Bloom is? of course he is not, his thought is all derivitive of others: Strauss and Strauss's thought highly derivitive of heidegger (that greater columbus). But the good news is the rest of this recording is now available on the "internet archieve", google that

[GolumTR]

But that would include many of his subjects: Hegel, Heidegger and even today's subject Nietzche!

I don't think you've considered what a long time 200 years is...

[GolumTR]

Not that I consider them to be the most important authors of the past 200 years, just that you seem to be claiming that he is more important than the people he interprets which seems to me a contradiction.

[SpazzzDog]

I love Nietzsche

[guitaoist]

Wow he makes me have hope for Nietzsche Scholars like myself! :)

My channel as hugely devoted to the writings of the self-proclaimed Antichrist, Nietzsche.... and the Astrological prophecy he fulfilled.

[fomastephanovitch]

Out of interest, what kind of people are Nietzsche scholars typically?

Are they likewise Mencken admirers or are they like the character of The Marquis de Saint-Loup who was a Nietzschean socialist?

From what I've heard there appears to be a schism - kind of like left and right Hegelians I suppose...

I live in New Zealand where Nietzsche's not discussed.

[GWARLOVER69]

really Nietzche isn't discussed in New Zealand? whats the culture like there?

u have struck my curiosity

[fomastephanovitch]

A bit like Nietzsche's contemporary Germany: there are a lot of truisms that people subscribe to, although people here are generally well educated.

Painting a picture of us: we have an MMP political system which seems to entrench centre left ideas, when many unpopular policies get questioned there is a groundwell of support dismissed as right-wing radicalism (90% of the country are right wing radicals!?), and people are guilt tripped into supporting the status quo with platitudinous phrases.

[leiyang89]

Very interesting! on another note, am I the only one finding his voice (at least here) VERY similar to ledger's joker?

[DanRYoung]

Holy crap. Good catch!

[EclecticUB2]

Yes, eerily like.

[scotty123123]

Oh excellent!

[ronnias27]

Thank you for the upload.

[MrAllanBloom]

In the age of Bush and Obama perhaps the most essential discussion in these lectures is that on the Last Man. One must really read this section from Zarathustra to experience its full relevance and for it to have its proper impact. The Last Man is us. We no longer need to say "give us the Last Man!". We are the society of Last Men - oops, I'm sorry! - I meant to say, "Last Persons".

[barrywinehousexp]

:)

Hence the necessity of these bridge builders and abyss fillers for Over-MEN.

I can't state how grateful I'd be for any and all Bloom and Strauss material you can dump here on youtube. Thank you MMarcellus.

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*Crush the Infamy!*

[accountbypass1]

Have you questioned the VALUE of the overman? The perceived worthlessness of the last man? That is the assumption Nietzche makes; it is one of the things we does not deliberate one. He attempts to illustrate, but tis not convincing and one should not be convinced by his poor illustrations.

[kronoscorvinus]

@MrAllanBloom Then indeed we are the Hollow Men, and we shall wimper our way to a meaningless end. The live men who had no bones.

[JonWRowe]

I'd like to see some live video of Bloom uploaded.

[MarcusCMarcellus]

So would I. Such videos exist at my esteemed alma mater, Chicago, but the hacks sitting on the archives have not released them. I know there's a video of the infamous "Western Civ" lecture at Harvard but they claim to have lost it.

[staffogame0]

génial ! merci !

[Marsiliusofpadua]

merci beaucoup

[NStaha]

Can you get more? Is there a way to get more? Is Chicago hording some archive of wisdom from Bloom or Strauss that its refusing to share with the rest us? Those of us who were soul-less BBAs and now lawyers need these lectures for the health of souls, so please post more if you possible can.

[AestheticizeAnalog]

Thank you so much for posting this.