A smokebomb is to get someone out of posiiton, to put out pressure, and sometimes to go for kill. However, it is pretty easy to predict one. And nioce argument and sap and gouge DR, cause that wasnt obvious. "And SO WHAT if you have to glyph prep. You HAVE to glyph it"...What?
@loganf1lms yes i am aware that these changes are old sir. My point being its never worth it to bitch about balance in WoW. it shall never be perfectly balanced and if youre underpowered you most likely have big buffs coming your way to make your class fotm so you keep paying your 15 a month.
Okay shadow step ? feral kitty that slows a target
kidney shot? ohh yeh an ability called maim hmmmm what else, ohh blind ofc cyclone ftw no cd on dm,which blind has with fear and whats its cool down again? ohh yeh doesnt have cd im sure our blind for 2 extra seconds is waaaay better couse its 3 min cd, smokebomb? well u dont have a smoke bomb to protec from spell or to finish some1 up, ohh 10k bleed and 30k crits? bearform ftw ? lol ....
@SkynerGaming lol. Just compare. Rogues shadowstep has a longer range than skullbash and everything cost less energy than with kitty. bearform is USELESS in dealing damage. Bleeds do NOT tick that much unless we're talking about CD's. Also 30k crits are really hard to make and you have to be either cloth user or shit geared mail user. Oh, and forgot to mention, you can use sap easily after blind and you have fucking 2 smoke bombs and gouge which count as CC too. How can you possibly beat that?
@kakkashin Gouge and sap have DR. You must be stealthed to sap. Target must be out of combat. Smoke bombs are easily avoidable if your not retarded, and a good team will CC the rogue the last 4sec of his blind. And you have to glyph for a second smoke bomb.
@Artemis123jg Good rogue ALWAYS times smoke bomb when it is impossible to avoid. And if u manage to avoid it, u always manage to make him trinket or pop cd's which is good. So what if sap and gouge have a DR? It would be OP if they wouldn't. And SO WHAT if u have to glyph prepa. You HAVE to glyph it. What point did that argument serve. ALso sap is EASY to use even while doing dmg if you know how. Just make a friend fear / stun him and continue it with a sap. Easy
I just logged back into WoW after like 4 or 5 months break, I used my free welcome back trial thing. I got straight into a BG and was frost nova'd by a mage and I was trying to shift out of it. I couldn't so I was thinking wtf is going on. I checked the tooltip and noticed all the tooltips had changed.
I checked google and found they had changed shapeshifting so that it doesn't break snares. I still can't believe this shit. It's completely retarded. I wont pay to play this shit anymore.
Druids have been getting fucked since just prior to the release of Cata. Take a look at the Resto druids tree of life form. Since druids are known for shape shifting and then to make the tree of life form 40 seconds is complete and utter bullshit. As a matter of fact the only two classes that really haven't been nerfed are Rogues and Magi.
ooh man, the day I saw the patch notes, a while ago yes, I really raged.
I totally agree with everything you say, but thing is, now feral druid takes a lot more skill to master, by using roots and cyclone a lot more.. but yeah, fucking stupid nerf
yo zybak if u read this i play a 2300 feral atm were like 58-16 and im stuck at 2300 and this is my first season as a feral i was pumped that feral druids were fun to play well with this nerf it downed my dreams of getting glad on my feral, blizzard simply just made feral druids a non-gladiator class i mean yes people have gotten it but im guessing off the top of my head but i would say feral druids are the least gladiator played classes
Rogues with no cooldowns except Barkskin that can turn into a prot warrior at the press of a button and instant cast blind every few seconds with 5 combo points? Poor baby.
what kind of moron added the shift out ability to resto druid? they don't need it anyway.... btw. aren't feral druids masters of shapeshifting? this makes adding shift out ability to resto even more retarded. christ.... who the fk is the boss of dev team? a fkin 6 years retarded boy playing a frost mage?
Blizzard talks about removing Hard Counters, lmao, what a load of Bullshit. Pratically 70% of my guild has quit since patch 4.0.6 and were moving to Rift whens its released
Blizzard talks about removing Hard Counters, lmao, what a load of Bullshit. Pratically 70% of my guild has quit since patch 4.0.6 and were moving to Rift whens its released
Totally agree with this Vid, it is fucking stupid what they done to Ferals and Warriors too. I have several alts 80 Rogue, and 80 Warrior and Paladin, 83 mage, Druid being my main so i could just switch to one of these alts but out of Principal im quitin, this is a sign of a bad developing team and i seriuosly think the future of wow will deteriate. The balance in PVP atm its the worst ive ever seen, I can Facerole 85 pvp geared druids and warriors now on my 83 mage with CATA greens.
@masygunner Listen, better nerf damage than do this shit. They just changed class mechanics, that's why I even loved druid, the fact that it had so good mobility and that it couldn't really get kited like other classes. Changing this aspect, blizz made a huge mistake.. It forces most of the current druids to reroll.
As i said, nerf damage maybe but don't fuck up with things like these. If i want to be kited, i'll play a mutilate rogue. Honestly. I wouldn't stay feral druid.
@Rearbottoms "better nerf damage than do this shit." thats what i said when i heard about the warrior nerfs. but in my oppinion im having so much trouble in arena to peel the druid of my healer its just crazy he can get out of everything, seriously theres like 2 ways to efficiently cc a feral druid u cant even disarm it
@masygunner well if he had less damage, it wouldn't be such a problem for your healer, even if he's on him 24/7. Even until now, could a feral ever kill a holy paladin? No.. Listen, people who are druids, are playing that class for a reason. Doing such a stupid nerf is... well, as i said, makes me reroll just cause feral's mechanic/playstyle is being changed.
@Rearbottoms so ur point is that every talent tree of druid should be playable in pvp at all times even if some classes at times dont have any playable specs if the feral nerf is so bad go resto atleast its still good
@masygunner Excuse me, you're suggesting they should make the spec unplayable for pvp? Oh, then we've nothing more to discuss, you're just here to troll. Of course I want it to be viable to pvp, I don't give a rat's ass about pve, or pvp healing. And why make it unplayable in pvp? Just cause you want it that way? Ok, so then if druids can't get out of roots, maybe mages shouldn't be able to actually kite someone; I'm SURE no mage will mind.
@Rearbottoms well obiviously im mad because warr will now be the worst class in high rated arenas sry about ur lil nerfs but hey warrs will be pretty much unplayable too im just fucking annoyed.
@masygunner and because you're mad about warrs, you're hoping other people will be miserable too.. And regarding: I have resto, I don't care about resto or balance. And if i wanted range dps, i'd go.. dunno, warlock..
@Rearbottoms yes im getting mad when ur complaining about making u not op when i should be complaining about my class getting unplayable in high end arenas
@masygunner Have you seen me doing the same thing to you? -,- That's just childish. You know it's a bad change, even though you're not a feral, but you like the fact that there are other people getting mad.
@masygunner What happened to warriors is bull*$^% and blizz should rethink what they're doing. I agree wholeheartedly with you on that. But you didn't get a class defining feature taken away from you. In the next patch maybe they buff your damage or cds that help but those are easily fixable. This thing that has been taken away from druids is not... plus every druid realized they needed to be nerfed and I'm sure we would have gladly taken -10% to -20% across the board to keep our mobility.
@Roobyshoe actually i got class defining feature taken i was going to be happy if my dmg only got nerfed but now they took away intercept and its as class defining as getting out of roots by shapeshifting when warr is now the worst class in the names of mobility i would be very very happy if i get out of even slows with arms
@Rearbottoms and ur class will still have resto which is very good and i dont have shit ur the one mad when one of ur specs getting unplayble well my whole class will
@Rearbottoms Every class has his.. stuff. If i want to be a warrior imma be a warrior, not a druid. If i wanna be a rogue, i'll go rogue. Why make it a warrior-like..thing?
resto druid = dispel themselves ...boomkin = ez set up kill / easier to just los if rooted...
but ferals will be more like =" /lol cc or sit on healer while feral is rooted cuz this is just too ez". I HAVE NO FERAL ON MY ACCOUNT AND I'M STILL STRONGLY AGAINST THIS NERF. i garuntee the guy that suggested this nerf PLAYS A MAGE. nice vid keep up the feral pwnage. add a BREAK ROOTS effect to MASTER SHAPESHIFTER.
@stocton34 yes ferals will be same as other melees FINALy just sit in fucking roots / snares waiting for dispell thats what ive been experiencing my whole wow carreer with my warrior
ok just remember all feral has is shapeshift to touch any1 iff shapeshift is SOOOO op why hasnt druids been the best class in the fucking game since vanilla wow huh? why are we suddenly OP now in bgs its because of our bleeds and damage encrease.... atleast nerf our bleeds and damage not out shapeshift.... we dont have vansish we dont have cloak we dont have repetetive stuns our feral loap will be shit in the millions of frost novas mages put out we are a sitting duck and a joke now
i dont even have a druid but i support you. it really does suck when they change the only thing great about a class just to balance it with other class cuz so many people bitch about it. i rated your post thumbs up man keep fighting the good fight lol.
Day one vanilla feral... I quit the game.. pm me if you want to buy my 85 feral, 85 shaman, 83 mage... all one account. There is another nelf 73 ish druid on the account also.
Well, outside of vanish (if you cloak or vanish roots you're bad wait for a fukking dispel) you have about the same mobility as a rogue. Not denying the fact we will and can put out more pressure with a clutch smoke bomb. We can't just shadow step shit in a root. Saying you don't have cc such as blind is a bit silly, kidney shot- you do have pounce and maim (no DR), shadow step- you do have feral charge (15 second CD) . Oh and they are increasing the cool down on step to 24 seconds.
Bleed ticks 8-10k thats all that im mad about. I think you're correct that you should be able to shapeshift out of roots. THE ONLY thing I would say needs a nerf are the bleed ticks. They are a little extreme. Other than that, I liked your thread and video =)
dude. . . jus take your fuckin nerf and fuckin learn to play around it like every other class that gets NERFED to the ground. .(ret pally) stop cryin sissy . . UNSUBSCRIBE
WTF is bliz thinking?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! without shapeshifting out of roots WTF?!!!!!!!! we will be shit and our bleeds is nerfed? we need toget closer FFS get ur brain back blizz
@Uaedxb2 druids healing might not be the best but you still got a few different heals, yeah i could CoS it but thats still a big cooldown and if you knew a little aboy the rogue you should know that its too important to waste it on that since its your only spell to get dots of us and essential when you are trying to vansih. Smoke bomb have a 3 min cooldown and gives a opportunity to get further away from me and then cyclone me even more when i get in range
@urkhai666 I do know about it , been playing a rogue for 3 straight years . alright you wont save it for a cyclone what would you keep it for instead? what dots are you able to remove with cloak of shadow from a feral druid other than fearie fire?
Look at the highest rated comments. You are both fucking retards who need to die. Druids needed a nerf, YES. but this is a CLASS CHANGING BOMB. You are probably both fucking arms warriors or frost mages.
@Zemnexx your absolutely right casters are going to own this game and since i hate casters and only play melee classes looks like i finally have a good reason to quit wow :)
@Postaldewd I'm not a frost mage. Zybak seems to expect that druids should be just as good as a prot warrior in bear form, just as good as a rogue in cat, just as good as a mage (or whatever) in boomkin, and be able to switch between them all interchangeably. THIS is feral's drawbacks. You get, at least, 3 classes rolled into one. You can't possibly expect them all, or any of them for that matter, to be as good as the primary class.
Wow. I could swim in the tears from these comments. The entire intent for druids from the start is watered down versions of various classes. Bear is a watered down warrior. Cat is a watered down rogue. Now, you really are a watered down rogue. You get nothing in return? LOL. Can a rogue go bear form and be as indestructable as a tank, then go elf form and heal to full? Nope. Can a tank morph into a rogue and stealth? Nope. Welcome to the new druid: working as intended.
If this sh.t goes live i'll quit wow, playing feral since 2.4.3 and I put up with all the cr.p blizz did to us but this is just 2 much. We were better in 3.3.5 now we are just returning to the cheap rogue version that we were.
when blizz has a problem with the shapeshift then they should make a tradeoff...... they should make it like in bc: shapeshift costs more mana so people think about if they should use it.....still thats a big nerf but bether than this change
If you know how to play vs a feral druid, you find out it`s ok atm, do abit high damage, we have problems with good mages. Even if you just mess up abit vs a good mage, your tost, so i dont see the problemm sane goes for good warriors, we get raped by demon locks etc. This was not needed. The nerf of berserk, it`s also realy not needed, skilld warlocks, they dont have that much problems with doing good in duels vs ferals, deamon locks they lol at us. I agree we are a pain vs ele shamans.
for once i actually agree on u on a class mechanic change / choice, holy fuck, who was the retard who came up with this idea? if this actually goes thro ( wich i srsly dont think it will ) i want atleast 150% increased healing, cuz atm, healing seems like a waste of GCD's and doesnt do shit for ur team mates or urself... it can barely outheal warrior bleeds >.>
Not only will it destroy feral but druid as a whole in pvp, i can not count how many times i have poped travel form to los allowing my lifebloom to pop and save my ass or get off a heal on the fc who ran around the same corner....
this change will fuck over balance and resto bad real bad anyone that disagrees has never played 2600+ as balance or resto whenever i play as resto against warrs and dks im constantly going in and out of forms this change will be really sad i really hope it dosent go through
Well I do agree with what you say, but i was reading about it and right now Ferel Druids shapeshifting out of snares is "too uncontrollable" so basically they mean they either have to nerf damage or the shapeshifting effects, and since they are just moving damage around, i guess they chose to nerf the shapeshifting.. but if they do that i think the berserk is too far.
I feel the same way about warriors losing intercept, although i see the point in nerfing warrior mobility, i just dont think its the right way to do it
no other class has a constant, no cooldown way to get out of CC, so druids should be no different. classes like warriors, dk's and pallys cannot kite a druid, whilst a druid can easily kite either of them, and than beat them in damage too.
@barrage4u With out that we have nothing. Mobility is our best asset. With a dot nerf and us being tied down what are we suppose to do? Pallies have their bubble, so do dks, warrior have defensive stance, spell reflect etc, rogue can vanish and blind. Druids have none of that. It a major part of playing a feral druid.
Warriors have always had 2 charges but now we're only going to have one. The game is changing, get used to it. You had your time as top class in S9, Blizz isnt going to change it, they know they fucked up on feral druids and now they're compensating for every other class worse than them.
@baseball1441 Cyclone isn't the best cc in the game because your target because immune to ANY and EVERY attack. Also cyclone is crap if used more then once, it will last like 3 seconds. Also if you don't have predators swiftness its a 1.6 second cast...I don't know what game you're playing but in World of Warcraft cyclone is not the best cc.
@ItsNotColdEnough ok you are just retarded, if your feral cyclone is basically instant cast, second of all, its the best cc because the only way to get out of it is fucking trink, plus, who damages a cc'd target? btw if a target is a 20% and you cyclone him, he can't get heals then you swap to the healer, HUR DUR PRESSURE you are just a bad 1400 scrub its nature swiftness btw dr doesn't matter, you are supposed to cyclone one target then do it to the other target, herp
Tbh I'm likin what they're doin to my class immune to snares when UR are on cd and a good mastery but yeah this nerf is bad just do something else blizz because I like seein the cute kittys and chickens are the worst thing to ever happen to wow ever...
If anything, just make it so that the shifting out of snares is something that ONLY feral druids get. Resto druids do not need the ability to get out of every slow and snare put up on them. Feral druids are insanely mobile right now and just about impossible to kite. I agree that this is a little too much of a nerf, but something needs to be done so that they are completely unkitable besides a few seconds of breathing room for the person being pursued.
i dont think they need to take away your ability to shapeshift out of controled roots, but i don't think your interupt needs a 13 yard range, fine with ferals having an interupt but a 13 yard range + instant cyclone is alittle redickuless, BTW ive been a druid for 4+ years
Zybak I completely agree about the Druid Nerfs... I dont understand how they could take away a mechanic like shapeshifting outta snares after 6 years of being in game.... Its bullshit... and I LOVE how there is NO Frost Mage Nerfs!... Fuck Blizzard and there dumb ass ideas... O BTW 2050 in 2v2 as Feral Rogue :) Its a Fun combo. O also If the nerf does go live you gonna reroll? I might...
A class getting nerfed is fine. But the ONE thing that makes shapeshifting worthy is its breaking of roots. Otherwise why ever go into travel form once you pass lvl 20.
Its okay to nerf a class but blizzard doesn't understand how. They nerf and nerf and nerf until feral cats are the lowest dps and lowest ranked in pvp. Then they say "DEY NUT OP ANYMOAR"
this is fucking retarded now im probly gonna quit my druid because the only way we can kill a frost mage is because we can shapeshift out of there freezzes like wtf is this BS
Lol arms warriors are gonna get nerfed by taking away our double charge (charge and then intercept) they're putting em on the same cooldown soo Feral druids can actually QQ in my opinion too cuz im QQing about the double charge bullshit...Arms has always been about MS and Charges (recently rend/overpower)
we need to buff resto and nerf boomkins more!
MEHEH IM GHOSTCRAWLER >:)
Weeklycap 1 month ago
A smokebomb is to get someone out of posiiton, to put out pressure, and sometimes to go for kill. However, it is pretty easy to predict one. And nioce argument and sap and gouge DR, cause that wasnt obvious. "And SO WHAT if you have to glyph prep. You HAVE to glyph it"...What?
Im not even arguing with you anymore.
Artemis123jg 3 months ago
@pvpgaming85 locks? huh
gimlion 3 months ago
Swear Swear Swear. QQ QQ QQ.
YOU MAD BRO!?!?!?!
MyEurasia 4 months ago
Next they'll take away the Polymorph immunity
slaw1990 4 months ago
yeah back then they werent. im sure he's calmed down now.
thedashhmaster 5 months ago
look at fucking feral now. its pretty solid. calm down nerd
papajbird613 5 months ago
@papajbird613 Date pl0x
loganf1lms 5 months ago
@loganf1lms yes i am aware that these changes are old sir. My point being its never worth it to bitch about balance in WoW. it shall never be perfectly balanced and if youre underpowered you most likely have big buffs coming your way to make your class fotm so you keep paying your 15 a month.
papajbird613 5 months ago
@papajbird613 That makes sense, but some people are really into this type of shit and care. (No lifes)
loganf1lms 5 months ago
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@papajbird613 That makes sense, but some people are really into this type of shit and care. (No lifes)
loganf1lms 5 months ago
A fatty QQing about 1 nerf, LOL
RealSICKLegends 5 months ago
lol i scare tigers and lions away with my bare face >:^D
im sure glad that blizzard have some common sense
tERtasdf 6 months ago
1:10-1:24
Okay shadow step ? feral kitty that slows a target
kidney shot? ohh yeh an ability called maim hmmmm what else, ohh blind ofc cyclone ftw no cd on dm,which blind has with fear and whats its cool down again? ohh yeh doesnt have cd im sure our blind for 2 extra seconds is waaaay better couse its 3 min cd, smokebomb? well u dont have a smoke bomb to protec from spell or to finish some1 up, ohh 10k bleed and 30k crits? bearform ftw ? lol ....
SkynerGaming 6 months ago
@SkynerGaming lol. Just compare. Rogues shadowstep has a longer range than skullbash and everything cost less energy than with kitty. bearform is USELESS in dealing damage. Bleeds do NOT tick that much unless we're talking about CD's. Also 30k crits are really hard to make and you have to be either cloth user or shit geared mail user. Oh, and forgot to mention, you can use sap easily after blind and you have fucking 2 smoke bombs and gouge which count as CC too. How can you possibly beat that?
kakkashin 3 months ago
@kakkashin Gouge and sap have DR. You must be stealthed to sap. Target must be out of combat. Smoke bombs are easily avoidable if your not retarded, and a good team will CC the rogue the last 4sec of his blind. And you have to glyph for a second smoke bomb.
Artemis123jg 3 months ago
@Artemis123jg Good rogue ALWAYS times smoke bomb when it is impossible to avoid. And if u manage to avoid it, u always manage to make him trinket or pop cd's which is good. So what if sap and gouge have a DR? It would be OP if they wouldn't. And SO WHAT if u have to glyph prepa. You HAVE to glyph it. What point did that argument serve. ALso sap is EASY to use even while doing dmg if you know how. Just make a friend fear / stun him and continue it with a sap. Easy
kakkashin 3 months ago
This is stupid haha yea cause getting out roots isnt over powered
Exarkun0406 6 months ago
F your tags.
Mic1337Panther 7 months ago
Yo, did you quit? I tried to armory you.
CollectiveExperience 7 months ago
I fucking hate the letter y. It pisses me off, Just look at the title, "My" ITS FUCKING CURVE IS ANNOYING THE SHIT OUT OF ME.
HuzzWoW 8 months ago
its so confusing having no idea what any of that means
kingraider7 8 months ago
i demand a buff for frost dks ;D
rostofroflmao 8 months ago
I just logged back into WoW after like 4 or 5 months break, I used my free welcome back trial thing. I got straight into a BG and was frost nova'd by a mage and I was trying to shift out of it. I couldn't so I was thinking wtf is going on. I checked the tooltip and noticed all the tooltips had changed.
I checked google and found they had changed shapeshifting so that it doesn't break snares. I still can't believe this shit. It's completely retarded. I wont pay to play this shit anymore.
unrealeck 9 months ago
Druids have been getting fucked since just prior to the release of Cata. Take a look at the Resto druids tree of life form. Since druids are known for shape shifting and then to make the tree of life form 40 seconds is complete and utter bullshit. As a matter of fact the only two classes that really haven't been nerfed are Rogues and Magi.
StiffyMC 9 months ago
RAZER
KagnosThePvp 9 months ago
i need buffs, like a naga?
TheSmith1125 9 months ago
ooh man, the day I saw the patch notes, a while ago yes, I really raged.
I totally agree with everything you say, but thing is, now feral druid takes a lot more skill to master, by using roots and cyclone a lot more.. but yeah, fucking stupid nerf
Ridderrustdk 9 months ago
razer naga epic please!!!!!
frequentdevastator 9 months ago
Feral is still good
andss5 10 months ago
Win/Win!
DarienaPriest 10 months ago
Boom, Boom, Boomkin!
jacoooI14 10 months ago
naga
Vehnum 10 months ago
least your only heal in pvp isnt getting a 20 second cd T_T...
kharawn242 10 months ago
Razor Nage Contest you rock always been a fan since day one
KagnosThePvp 10 months ago
no chance.
jacooI14 10 months ago
sorry you're not as op as you want to be and show no skill.
deal with it.
ImHiDef 10 months ago
almost 90+ times!
Nathaniel0912 10 months ago
I rerolled rogue, and i don't regret it.
XxXxTormentxXxX 10 months ago
thats really gay :/
Ulikepwnd 10 months ago
Druids have the same damage as warriors, if not more, and if a warrior gets either slowed or rooted, we cant do shit...
Silashn2610 10 months ago
@Silashn2610 Thing is, feral druids get killed 10 times as quickly.
PurpleDragon009 10 months ago
warriors are nerf central for blizz. seems they hate us most
gimlion 11 months ago
warriors are nerf central for blizz. seems they hate us most
gimlion 11 months ago 23
@gimlion
seriously i cant even play my warr anymore because i get shit on its bullshit.
And mages only get stronger FUCK
MrDecapitatorz 4 months ago
@gimlion but they are always the most op...
guitara7x6661 1 month ago
yo zybak if u read this i play a 2300 feral atm were like 58-16 and im stuck at 2300 and this is my first season as a feral i was pumped that feral druids were fun to play well with this nerf it downed my dreams of getting glad on my feral, blizzard simply just made feral druids a non-gladiator class i mean yes people have gotten it but im guessing off the top of my head but i would say feral druids are the least gladiator played classes
SuperRedtaco 11 months ago
Rogues with no cooldowns except Barkskin that can turn into a prot warrior at the press of a button and instant cast blind every few seconds with 5 combo points? Poor baby.
fubugotthatfira 11 months ago
@fubugotthatfira a frost mage would say something...
jetme92 10 months ago
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MasterGamer53 1 year ago
I know that every mage had a trollface when he rad about this nerf.
pokinba 1 year ago
man so sorry, wait didn't warriors get a super nerf to everything last patch, man sorry to say i don't feel bad for druids AT ALL!
Cha0spaladin 1 year ago
what kind of moron added the shift out ability to resto druid? they don't need it anyway.... btw. aren't feral druids masters of shapeshifting? this makes adding shift out ability to resto even more retarded. christ.... who the fk is the boss of dev team? a fkin 6 years retarded boy playing a frost mage?
wyderski7 1 year ago 20
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You mean ghostcrawler?
GuitarGuruCorey 6 months ago
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wyderski7 1 year ago
i cant like on your thread damn that only-one-region policy
eldorranger 1 year ago
This is exactly right, we cant move anywhere, we don't have a vanish smokebomb etc . Either fucking give us a vanish etc or remove this shit debuff
sockpuppet1231 1 year ago
Yah and warrior used to be a moblie class too. Now we are just paladins that cant cast heals or Bubble or blessing of Freedom
ChristophJames89 1 year ago
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Blizzard talks about removing Hard Counters, lmao, what a load of Bullshit. Pratically 70% of my guild has quit since patch 4.0.6 and were moving to Rift whens its released
njs72 1 year ago
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Blizzard talks about removing Hard Counters, lmao, what a load of Bullshit. Pratically 70% of my guild has quit since patch 4.0.6 and were moving to Rift whens its released
njs72 1 year ago
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njs72 1 year ago
Totally agree with this Vid, it is fucking stupid what they done to Ferals and Warriors too. I have several alts 80 Rogue, and 80 Warrior and Paladin, 83 mage, Druid being my main so i could just switch to one of these alts but out of Principal im quitin, this is a sign of a bad developing team and i seriuosly think the future of wow will deteriate. The balance in PVP atm its the worst ive ever seen, I can Facerole 85 pvp geared druids and warriors now on my 83 mage with CATA greens.
njs72 1 year ago
lol you mad l l v
snitzcore 1 year ago
man this nerf is rly good theres so little u can do to a feral druid to stop his dmg
masygunner 1 year ago
@masygunner Listen, better nerf damage than do this shit. They just changed class mechanics, that's why I even loved druid, the fact that it had so good mobility and that it couldn't really get kited like other classes. Changing this aspect, blizz made a huge mistake.. It forces most of the current druids to reroll.
As i said, nerf damage maybe but don't fuck up with things like these. If i want to be kited, i'll play a mutilate rogue. Honestly. I wouldn't stay feral druid.
Rearbottoms 1 year ago
@Rearbottoms "better nerf damage than do this shit." thats what i said when i heard about the warrior nerfs. but in my oppinion im having so much trouble in arena to peel the druid of my healer its just crazy he can get out of everything, seriously theres like 2 ways to efficiently cc a feral druid u cant even disarm it
masygunner 1 year ago
@masygunner well if he had less damage, it wouldn't be such a problem for your healer, even if he's on him 24/7. Even until now, could a feral ever kill a holy paladin? No.. Listen, people who are druids, are playing that class for a reason. Doing such a stupid nerf is... well, as i said, makes me reroll just cause feral's mechanic/playstyle is being changed.
Rearbottoms 1 year ago
@Rearbottoms so ur point is that every talent tree of druid should be playable in pvp at all times even if some classes at times dont have any playable specs if the feral nerf is so bad go resto atleast its still good
masygunner 1 year ago
@masygunner Excuse me, you're suggesting they should make the spec unplayable for pvp? Oh, then we've nothing more to discuss, you're just here to troll. Of course I want it to be viable to pvp, I don't give a rat's ass about pve, or pvp healing. And why make it unplayable in pvp? Just cause you want it that way? Ok, so then if druids can't get out of roots, maybe mages shouldn't be able to actually kite someone; I'm SURE no mage will mind.
Rearbottoms 1 year ago
@Rearbottoms well obiviously im mad because warr will now be the worst class in high rated arenas sry about ur lil nerfs but hey warrs will be pretty much unplayable too im just fucking annoyed.
masygunner 1 year ago
@masygunner and because you're mad about warrs, you're hoping other people will be miserable too.. And regarding: I have resto, I don't care about resto or balance. And if i wanted range dps, i'd go.. dunno, warlock..
Rearbottoms 1 year ago
@Rearbottoms yes im getting mad when ur complaining about making u not op when i should be complaining about my class getting unplayable in high end arenas
masygunner 1 year ago
@masygunner Have you seen me doing the same thing to you? -,- That's just childish. You know it's a bad change, even though you're not a feral, but you like the fact that there are other people getting mad.
Rearbottoms 1 year ago
@masygunner What happened to warriors is bull*$^% and blizz should rethink what they're doing. I agree wholeheartedly with you on that. But you didn't get a class defining feature taken away from you. In the next patch maybe they buff your damage or cds that help but those are easily fixable. This thing that has been taken away from druids is not... plus every druid realized they needed to be nerfed and I'm sure we would have gladly taken -10% to -20% across the board to keep our mobility.
Roobyshoe 1 year ago
@Roobyshoe actually i got class defining feature taken i was going to be happy if my dmg only got nerfed but now they took away intercept and its as class defining as getting out of roots by shapeshifting when warr is now the worst class in the names of mobility i would be very very happy if i get out of even slows with arms
masygunner 1 year ago
@Rearbottoms and ur class will still have resto which is very good and i dont have shit ur the one mad when one of ur specs getting unplayble well my whole class will
masygunner 1 year ago
@Rearbottoms theres no point in character who can be healer melee dps or caster dps and not one of the specs are not unplayable its just stupid rly
masygunner 1 year ago
@Rearbottoms Every class has his.. stuff. If i want to be a warrior imma be a warrior, not a druid. If i wanna be a rogue, i'll go rogue. Why make it a warrior-like..thing?
Rearbottoms 1 year ago
Blizzard totally cares about your opinion, Maddy.
OEDANTE 1 year ago
Best fckn thing to happen in the game, now if they remove resto dispell and and get out of jail free we will be in business.
CommiloverLOL 1 year ago
resto druid = dispel themselves ...boomkin = ez set up kill / easier to just los if rooted...
but ferals will be more like =" /lol cc or sit on healer while feral is rooted cuz this is just too ez". I HAVE NO FERAL ON MY ACCOUNT AND I'M STILL STRONGLY AGAINST THIS NERF. i garuntee the guy that suggested this nerf PLAYS A MAGE. nice vid keep up the feral pwnage. add a BREAK ROOTS effect to MASTER SHAPESHIFTER.
stocton34 1 year ago
@stocton34 yes ferals will be same as other melees FINALy just sit in fucking roots / snares waiting for dispell thats what ive been experiencing my whole wow carreer with my warrior
masygunner 1 year ago
ok just remember all feral has is shapeshift to touch any1 iff shapeshift is SOOOO op why hasnt druids been the best class in the fucking game since vanilla wow huh? why are we suddenly OP now in bgs its because of our bleeds and damage encrease.... atleast nerf our bleeds and damage not out shapeshift.... we dont have vansish we dont have cloak we dont have repetetive stuns our feral loap will be shit in the millions of frost novas mages put out we are a sitting duck and a joke now
turningundead 1 year ago
i dont even have a druid but i support you. it really does suck when they change the only thing great about a class just to balance it with other class cuz so many people bitch about it. i rated your post thumbs up man keep fighting the good fight lol.
th3olZy 1 year ago
Jenny123 do you have 0 resilience and still in greens? Rip and rakes tick for 5k against 3k resilience.
Lodoz 1 year ago
Day one vanilla feral... I quit the game.. pm me if you want to buy my 85 feral, 85 shaman, 83 mage... all one account. There is another nelf 73 ish druid on the account also.
Lodoz 1 year ago
Lolololololol "we're pretty much rogues"
Yeah bro because you still have less mobility than rogues, I mean, rogues are just immune to snares.
You have blind on no CD, get over it.
SirNoddy1 1 year ago
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wtf this just destroys feral druids
mrjarhead3010 1 year ago
Well, outside of vanish (if you cloak or vanish roots you're bad wait for a fukking dispel) you have about the same mobility as a rogue. Not denying the fact we will and can put out more pressure with a clutch smoke bomb. We can't just shadow step shit in a root. Saying you don't have cc such as blind is a bit silly, kidney shot- you do have pounce and maim (no DR), shadow step- you do have feral charge (15 second CD) . Oh and they are increasing the cool down on step to 24 seconds.
Necropvproductions 1 year ago
Quit your bitching please, i've never seen you bitch so much, i love you but its getting annoying........
Magmoso 1 year ago
@Magmoso Dude STFU, He is the only who is actually doing something about it !!!
SkateFreakxdo 1 year ago
Bleed ticks 8-10k thats all that im mad about. I think you're correct that you should be able to shapeshift out of roots. THE ONLY thing I would say needs a nerf are the bleed ticks. They are a little extreme. Other than that, I liked your thread and video =)
SeaTownIsBad 1 year ago
Cough with bleeds that tick 100-20% HP. Wait wuuuuut?
Jenny123xD 1 year ago
dude. . . jus take your fuckin nerf and fuckin learn to play around it like every other class that gets NERFED to the ground. .(ret pally) stop cryin sissy . . UNSUBSCRIBE
RowMoney868 1 year ago
@RowMoney868 fuk off shit cunt go eat a dick retard
kilp500 1 year ago
This change is actually pretty decent. Feral druids shouldn't have an "unlimited" pvp trinket. Because that's basically what it is.
blancher69 1 year ago
Muahahahaha! you all deserve it!!
Kl3tAS 1 year ago
WTF is bliz thinking?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! without shapeshifting out of roots WTF?!!!!!!!! we will be shit and our bleeds is nerfed? we need toget closer FFS get ur brain back blizz
ogihcy 1 year ago
@Uaedxb2 you got a point, i guess i was talking more in general against most classes.
urkhai666 1 year ago
@Uaedxb2 druids healing might not be the best but you still got a few different heals, yeah i could CoS it but thats still a big cooldown and if you knew a little aboy the rogue you should know that its too important to waste it on that since its your only spell to get dots of us and essential when you are trying to vansih. Smoke bomb have a 3 min cooldown and gives a opportunity to get further away from me and then cyclone me even more when i get in range
urkhai666 1 year ago
@urkhai666 I do know about it , been playing a rogue for 3 straight years . alright you wont save it for a cyclone what would you keep it for instead? what dots are you able to remove with cloak of shadow from a feral druid other than fearie fire?
Uaedxb2 1 year ago
Mobility for every damn class is getting pooped on. /facepalm
xMAGICxPRODUCTIONSx 1 year ago
Look at the highest rated comments. You are both fucking retards who need to die. Druids needed a nerf, YES. but this is a CLASS CHANGING BOMB. You are probably both fucking arms warriors or frost mages.
needstuflol 1 year ago
42 frost mages disliked this video
vendettaa77 1 year ago
HOLY FUCK Stop playing if its so bad STOP bitching about it....... all classes gets nerfed
Allelundh 1 year ago
@Allelundh Die
needstuflol 1 year ago
@needstuflol love
Allelundh 1 year ago
@Allelundh <3
needstuflol 1 year ago
There were 2 classes I really liked playing in pvp. Arms Warrior and Boomkin. And both just got kicked in the dick this patch for mobility. GG 2 me
Karnalsyn 1 year ago
Why are they coming down so hard on mobility for melee classes, soon it will be the World of Castercraft. (Warrior here)
Zemnexx 1 year ago
@Zemnexx your absolutely right casters are going to own this game and since i hate casters and only play melee classes looks like i finally have a good reason to quit wow :)
vendettaa77 1 year ago
42 dislikes = frost mages
Postaldewd 1 year ago
@Postaldewd I'm not a frost mage. Zybak seems to expect that druids should be just as good as a prot warrior in bear form, just as good as a rogue in cat, just as good as a mage (or whatever) in boomkin, and be able to switch between them all interchangeably. THIS is feral's drawbacks. You get, at least, 3 classes rolled into one. You can't possibly expect them all, or any of them for that matter, to be as good as the primary class.
Goins2754 1 year ago
@Goins2754 ....lol
ZybakTV 1 year ago
Wow. I could swim in the tears from these comments. The entire intent for druids from the start is watered down versions of various classes. Bear is a watered down warrior. Cat is a watered down rogue. Now, you really are a watered down rogue. You get nothing in return? LOL. Can a rogue go bear form and be as indestructable as a tank, then go elf form and heal to full? Nope. Can a tank morph into a rogue and stealth? Nope. Welcome to the new druid: working as intended.
Goins2754 1 year ago
If this sh.t goes live i'll quit wow, playing feral since 2.4.3 and I put up with all the cr.p blizz did to us but this is just 2 much. We were better in 3.3.5 now we are just returning to the cheap rogue version that we were.
craezee247 1 year ago
@craezee247 See ya.
Goins2754 1 year ago
Yey, FUCK DRUIDS!
axelandro93 1 year ago
@axelandro93 Fuck you retard, i'd own your ass with the nerf in place
006Anakin006 1 year ago
While your at it why dont you make a thread to fix all the other bullshit things with other class's
westyrulez 1 year ago
@ZybakTV
when blizz has a problem with the shapeshift then they should make a tradeoff...... they should make it like in bc: shapeshift costs more mana so people think about if they should use it.....still thats a big nerf but bether than this change
repptorr 1 year ago
Use a trinket like the rest of us....stop QQ ing
Zazgar 1 year ago
If you know how to play vs a feral druid, you find out it`s ok atm, do abit high damage, we have problems with good mages. Even if you just mess up abit vs a good mage, your tost, so i dont see the problemm sane goes for good warriors, we get raped by demon locks etc. This was not needed. The nerf of berserk, it`s also realy not needed, skilld warlocks, they dont have that much problems with doing good in duels vs ferals, deamon locks they lol at us. I agree we are a pain vs ele shamans.
fiwarelli 1 year ago
@polymorph420 no u dont need to jump in and out of ur forms to get off roots, every healer got dispell now. and don't talk like your some bigshot
warsicklol 1 year ago
QQ moar
HurricaneOsha 1 year ago
rage
JoaquinGaming 1 year ago
Warriors got there charge and intercept on the same CD this isent that bad
Thelittlesthoboson 1 year ago
are you aly ?
BlazzerdLove 1 year ago
Sorry your hybrid class doesn't fill every role it performs better than a pure class anymore.
oUNIV3RS4Lo 1 year ago
This is complete bullshit fuck blizzard they have some dum ass Changes lately
96cwc 1 year ago
for once i actually agree on u on a class mechanic change / choice, holy fuck, who was the retard who came up with this idea? if this actually goes thro ( wich i srsly dont think it will ) i want atleast 150% increased healing, cuz atm, healing seems like a waste of GCD's and doesnt do shit for ur team mates or urself... it can barely outheal warrior bleeds >.>
Jediskum 1 year ago
Not only will it destroy feral but druid as a whole in pvp, i can not count how many times i have poped travel form to los allowing my lifebloom to pop and save my ass or get off a heal on the fc who ran around the same corner....
MrBradwcarlson 1 year ago
this change will fuck over balance and resto bad real bad anyone that disagrees has never played 2600+ as balance or resto whenever i play as resto against warrs and dks im constantly going in and out of forms this change will be really sad i really hope it dosent go through
polymorph420 1 year ago
Well I do agree with what you say, but i was reading about it and right now Ferel Druids shapeshifting out of snares is "too uncontrollable" so basically they mean they either have to nerf damage or the shapeshifting effects, and since they are just moving damage around, i guess they chose to nerf the shapeshifting.. but if they do that i think the berserk is too far.
999rawr 1 year ago
hey zybak you see the new flight forms for worgens and trolls what you think of them ?
nyphix4321 1 year ago
I feel the same way about warriors losing intercept, although i see the point in nerfing warrior mobility, i just dont think its the right way to do it
CristianHenri 1 year ago
no other class has a constant, no cooldown way to get out of CC, so druids should be no different. classes like warriors, dk's and pallys cannot kite a druid, whilst a druid can easily kite either of them, and than beat them in damage too.
barrage4u 1 year ago
@barrage4u With out that we have nothing. Mobility is our best asset. With a dot nerf and us being tied down what are we suppose to do? Pallies have their bubble, so do dks, warrior have defensive stance, spell reflect etc, rogue can vanish and blind. Druids have none of that. It a major part of playing a feral druid.
ItsNotColdEnough 1 year ago
Warriors have always had 2 charges but now we're only going to have one. The game is changing, get used to it. You had your time as top class in S9, Blizz isnt going to change it, they know they fucked up on feral druids and now they're compensating for every other class worse than them.
poptartprice 1 year ago
@TheJackyjack you dont know what your talking about.
GotMilkQuestionMark 1 year ago
@silentblood21 yes but do you think a fair nerf is breaking the class? and making there be no counter to a frost mage?
GotMilkQuestionMark 1 year ago
No more feral yay! FUCK NO FFS.
droodletyo 1 year ago
its ok, fucking cyclone bro remember? shadowstep = pounce blind =cyclone jesus christ kindney,= maim. herp.
FUCKIN CYCLONE MANNN BEST CC IN GAME
baseball1441 1 year ago
@baseball1441 Fear
tunawrangler1 1 year ago
@baseball1441 Cyclone isn't the best cc in the game because your target because immune to ANY and EVERY attack. Also cyclone is crap if used more then once, it will last like 3 seconds. Also if you don't have predators swiftness its a 1.6 second cast...I don't know what game you're playing but in World of Warcraft cyclone is not the best cc.
ItsNotColdEnough 1 year ago
@ItsNotColdEnough ok you are just retarded, if your feral cyclone is basically instant cast, second of all, its the best cc because the only way to get out of it is fucking trink, plus, who damages a cc'd target? btw if a target is a 20% and you cyclone him, he can't get heals then you swap to the healer, HUR DUR PRESSURE you are just a bad 1400 scrub its nature swiftness btw dr doesn't matter, you are supposed to cyclone one target then do it to the other target, herp
baseball1441 1 year ago
Don't nerf me bro, godmode is finally turned off and all QQ.
vaju79 1 year ago
Lol and to top this all off glyph of entangling roots is gone as well T_T was pretty cool while it lasted.
Ilostmysock38 1 year ago
Tbh I'm likin what they're doin to my class immune to snares when UR are on cd and a good mastery but yeah this nerf is bad just do something else blizz because I like seein the cute kittys and chickens are the worst thing to ever happen to wow ever...
Jctrynr 1 year ago
If anything, just make it so that the shifting out of snares is something that ONLY feral druids get. Resto druids do not need the ability to get out of every slow and snare put up on them. Feral druids are insanely mobile right now and just about impossible to kite. I agree that this is a little too much of a nerf, but something needs to be done so that they are completely unkitable besides a few seconds of breathing room for the person being pursued.
MASTURpronzz 1 year ago
i dont think they need to take away your ability to shapeshift out of controled roots, but i don't think your interupt needs a 13 yard range, fine with ferals having an interupt but a 13 yard range + instant cyclone is alittle redickuless, BTW ive been a druid for 4+ years
degunshow 1 year ago
Zybak I completely agree about the Druid Nerfs... I dont understand how they could take away a mechanic like shapeshifting outta snares after 6 years of being in game.... Its bullshit... and I LOVE how there is NO Frost Mage Nerfs!... Fuck Blizzard and there dumb ass ideas... O BTW 2050 in 2v2 as Feral Rogue :) Its a Fun combo. O also If the nerf does go live you gonna reroll? I might...
Ravedge11 1 year ago
Zybak is a female NE now . . . o.O
TAAsun101 1 year ago
@zybaktv HAHAHAHAHA I LOVE YOUR TEARS ZYBAK.. :P waaaahhhhh my op class is getting a nerf qqqqqq. lol :P
bogairian 1 year ago
@bogairian
HERP DERP
A class getting nerfed is fine. But the ONE thing that makes shapeshifting worthy is its breaking of roots. Otherwise why ever go into travel form once you pass lvl 20.
Its okay to nerf a class but blizzard doesn't understand how. They nerf and nerf and nerf until feral cats are the lowest dps and lowest ranked in pvp. Then they say "DEY NUT OP ANYMOAR"
assassin4than 1 year ago
You race changed to ally? :O
ReligionIsFunny 1 year ago
Good, it needed to be done...
Liquidflame123 1 year ago
This is exactly what Druids need. This will hopefully let me get to 2600 rated now instead of 1.2k. Druids is underpowered Atm they need buff.
AldoStan93 1 year ago
this is fucking retarded now im probly gonna quit my druid because the only way we can kill a frost mage is because we can shapeshift out of there freezzes like wtf is this BS
omgitspoisonous 1 year ago
qq moar
karvakorvakoira 1 year ago
Lol arms warriors are gonna get nerfed by taking away our double charge (charge and then intercept) they're putting em on the same cooldown soo Feral druids can actually QQ in my opinion too cuz im QQing about the double charge bullshit...Arms has always been about MS and Charges (recently rend/overpower)
werebaine48 1 year ago
@werebaine48 well the charge nerf was needed honestly, warriors are impossible to kite now
cakiftw 1 year ago
@cakiftw Lol so were druids....Get out of all roots but a fear and then they can just pop berserk and they're like un kiteable
werebaine48 1 year ago
uhm honestly you now feel every other melee class's pain
i1HITurMom 1 year ago
they should be nerfing mages and warlocks not druids......
5Metalgod5 1 year ago
@5Metalgod5 Damn man Warlocks don't need a nerf go l2p!
chesney2 1 year ago
this is bullshit. i didnt believe the post at first.
Warcakes66 1 year ago
this shud happen... feral is fucking rediculous, thumbs up
THEWARCRAFTKID 1 year ago
@THEWARCRAFTKID your ill logical
GotMilkQuestionMark 1 year ago
@silentblood21
Look at the ladder again retard, there's about 3 ferals in the top 50 on bg9
NoFrag0 1 year ago