I like Peter even if I do not agree with him on everything. I think the difference between him and his brother is that he, unlike C-Hitchens, does not spend his time debating simply to raise his own profile as an intellectual. I'm talking about how Christopher relentlessly attacks ALL religion, even Buddhism, as an evil well and above its true extent; e.g. C-Hitchens arguing that Hitler was a practising Christian with very spurious evidence indeed.
"its the English that subsidises thew rest of the political union."
Sorry to break this to you but the 'English' is not a monolithic whole. It is free born British individuals who subsidise the Union. Your remark is as fatuous as SNP drivel about 'Scotland’s Oil.'
Peter Hitchens is one of the few political commentators in Britain today with a backbone. Whether one agrees with his conclusions or not is a different matter however you have to admire his clearness of thinking. For what it is worth, he is absolutely correct here regarding the dulling conformity of modern day politics and society in general.
To use the cliche 'at the end of the day' perople vote with their feet. Where are all the white people that used to live in, now black, areas of London? We have the 'brain drain', 'green-shifting' etc. All should be seen as 'white flight' and that is what I'm about to do. I'm off to NZ for a culture that I am comfortable with. Why? 25 years of English fleeing to my area without fight. I have supported the BNP for 20 years but due to the dumbed-down masses I'm FORCED to flee. I've had enough.
Carry on waffling about politics as if you actually know something about it! Doesn't matter who's in power the NWO will cook billions of peoples backsides and those who are left over will be bar coded.
Actually it is the woman in the audience who doesnt understand the concept of sexism. She had mixed it up with discrimination AGAINST the opposite sex, when actually it just means discriminating between sexes.
Peter is one of the greatest independent thinkers in Britain today challenging us to to stop swallowing the rubbish of the liberal elite and exposes what has happened to Britain. We need more like him i am not a fan of his brother though he is still stuck in the leftist camp while peter saw the light and grew up.
He's never said anything good about the greatest PM in Britain's history. He always talks about democracy and individual liberty, yet Margaret Thatcher gave back our economic and social liberty, yet he criticises her because people chose to live their lives according to their own doctrine rather than those of the Church.
A contradictive political stance if ever there was one. Still, if he's never said anything good about Thatcher either then at least he's consistent! Personally I couldn't stand her despotic ways either.
No he criticises Thatcher because her Govrnment had no central ideology apart from the free market, which cannot,by itself, hold a society together. Thatcher allowed the education system to get worse, the welfare state to grow, and EU regulation to replace trade unions
The education system didn't get worse under Thatcher. It has been devalued under Labour.
Thatcher was a fierce opponent of EU regulation, and it was Howe, Lawson and Major who forced her to accept SEA and ERM.
There is no such thing as society. It is an invention of left wing Islington liberals and Guardianistas who seek intellectual justification for a big state that steals from its people and spends our money for us.
the education system did indeed get worse under Thatcher You know why? Because as Education Secretary, and then Prime Minister, she was collecctively responsible for CLOSING more grammar schools than Labour!
There is such a thing as society, but it doesnt mean what liberals want to make it mean. Society means a community with a common culture, exactly the thing multiculturalism and family breakdown, and globalisation and mass immigration(which Thatcher supported) have destroyed
I agree, Mrs Thatcher made a huge mistake in closing down so many grammar schools.
Multiculturalism has destroyed what is known as society. Globalisation of economies dosen't affect society at all. The Chinese have benefitted hugely from globalisation, and yet they still retain all of their traditions and their proud heritage. So do the British, in the form of Church and Monarchy.
Globalisation does affect society, because it submerges local culture beneath mass global brands, so everything becomes Americanised, and everything small and local and unique closes down, and globalisation brings mass movement of labour, which means mass immigration, another thing that destroys society, as it necessitates multiculturalism. Most of the things Thatcher did made this country worse.
Let's assume you are right (you are not). What is so bad about it? The whole point of a market economy is that the consumer chooses. If the consumer wishes to purchase Starbucks Coffee in perpetuity, who are you to stop him?
It is good to assume I am right, because I actually am, You have z\ero understanding of market economics if you think that is how it works. Major conglomerates use dirty tricks, notably PR and buying up small businesses to smother competition. They are frequently caught doing it. And the international trade rules on subsidies are tilted in favour of big investors, so the prices of certain products will always have a price advantage over local products
If people believe advertisements, so be it. Friedrich Hayek debunked the Galbraithian view of advertisements.
Also, monopolies are the product of government regulation. Not all, but most. Healthcare in America is a great example of government regulation having adverse effects.
Subsidies are completely inimical to free markets. Subsidies are the bastard children of corporatism, which is what the world has suffered for a century.
Well, I think we finally agree. Regulation does indeed produce monopolies,which is why big business loves the European Union,and the flood of maternity rights/minimum wage/limited working hours rights coming out of the EU,all these regulations cost so much that they close small businesses at birth, thus suffocating any potential competition the monopolies might have.
I wasnt talking about people believing adverts, rather how big corporations use PR to hide the source of information they release
He has wailed on Thatcher plenty of times. He is like, his brother, very contrarian and will put a negative spin on anything if necessary to get the point across.
Peter Hitchens is no supporter of Thatcher. He laments the Tory party of that era for its obsession with free-market liberalism and its parallel failure to espouse a real conservative philosophy.
Gloat if you want but I never said he liked or supported Thatcher, just that he might have said the odd good thing about her - in between saying bad things of course: "Her Bruges speech and her famous "No! No! No!" outburst against European Union rule are greatly to her credit...She also deserves credit for standing up to the Warsaw Pact and for breaking the power of the unions..." Hitchens wrote this in his blog and by his standards it is almost canonisation, albeit accompanied by demonisation.
bettertobealive, yes that is indeed the case. Women have completely different bodies, and mental make-ups to men, whereas people of different races do not. Its such an obvious point I cant believe you cant see it! Can men get pregnant? Are women as physically strong, or tall, as most average men? Are women as interested inc ompetitve sports as men, or as agressive? But there are no such differences between people of different races. Try thinking for yourself, instead of hurling mindless abuse
This is the man that writes regulary for the daily mail.. Enough said there.
What Chris Hitchens is SO much better!
whiskasalpha 2 months ago
I like Peter even if I do not agree with him on everything. I think the difference between him and his brother is that he, unlike C-Hitchens, does not spend his time debating simply to raise his own profile as an intellectual. I'm talking about how Christopher relentlessly attacks ALL religion, even Buddhism, as an evil well and above its true extent; e.g. C-Hitchens arguing that Hitler was a practising Christian with very spurious evidence indeed.
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donhonki1 7 months ago
"its the English that subsidises thew rest of the political union."
Sorry to break this to you but the 'English' is not a monolithic whole. It is free born British individuals who subsidise the Union. Your remark is as fatuous as SNP drivel about 'Scotland’s Oil.'
CosmosLoyal 1 year ago
Peter Hitchens is one of the few political commentators in Britain today with a backbone. Whether one agrees with his conclusions or not is a different matter however you have to admire his clearness of thinking. For what it is worth, he is absolutely correct here regarding the dulling conformity of modern day politics and society in general.
CosmosLoyal 1 year ago
Christopher Hitchens is a New World Order/Neo Con shill
optionsupdate 1 year ago
Britain today: Labour's lax morality has helped standards crash through the floor. Just look around you.
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TheDustpile 1 year ago
i think brown suits the british perfectly.
saltnvinegar77 1 year ago
And what is that supposed to mean?
ExtremeBogom 1 year ago
@saltnvinegar77 lol kindof agree with you
khazal12 1 year ago
Hey Salt.., what makes you think Brown suits the British?
He may suit the Scots, Irish and Welsh, but he doesn't suit the English, and its the English that subsidises thew rest of the political union.
PteropusDasymallus 1 year ago
To use the cliche 'at the end of the day' perople vote with their feet. Where are all the white people that used to live in, now black, areas of London? We have the 'brain drain', 'green-shifting' etc. All should be seen as 'white flight' and that is what I'm about to do. I'm off to NZ for a culture that I am comfortable with. Why? 25 years of English fleeing to my area without fight. I have supported the BNP for 20 years but due to the dumbed-down masses I'm FORCED to flee. I've had enough.
BewareTheBeast 1 year ago
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We'd love to see the back of you.
Pepotamo1985 1 year ago
Lefty singers are very adept at using music to overwhelm the ideas of young people to the extent of brainwashing.
(Did you know, that in so-called 'hymn practice' at school, we kids were made to sing Bob Dylan and Ralph McTell songs in the 80s?!)
Is this why Labour MPs are so keen to fund special recording studios with public money?
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TheDustpile 2 years ago 2
Carry on waffling about politics as if you actually know something about it! Doesn't matter who's in power the NWO will cook billions of peoples backsides and those who are left over will be bar coded.
chastuk 2 years ago
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DERBYCFC 2 years ago
I'm not sure Peter Hitchens understands the concept of sexism...
guitarmilesrob 2 years ago
What's your definition?
JohnAdamCulligan 2 years ago
Actually it is the woman in the audience who doesnt understand the concept of sexism. She had mixed it up with discrimination AGAINST the opposite sex, when actually it just means discriminating between sexes.
relarerfhjk 2 years ago
Peter is one of the greatest independent thinkers in Britain today challenging us to to stop swallowing the rubbish of the liberal elite and exposes what has happened to Britain. We need more like him i am not a fan of his brother though he is still stuck in the leftist camp while peter saw the light and grew up.
mrmw761 2 years ago 4
Apparently, he used to be a Trotskyist. I've never heard him say anything good about anyone - except maybe Margaret Thatcher.
ciaran3707 2 years ago
He's never said anything good about the greatest PM in Britain's history. He always talks about democracy and individual liberty, yet Margaret Thatcher gave back our economic and social liberty, yet he criticises her because people chose to live their lives according to their own doctrine rather than those of the Church.
Mickmars90 2 years ago
A contradictive political stance if ever there was one. Still, if he's never said anything good about Thatcher either then at least he's consistent! Personally I couldn't stand her despotic ways either.
ciaran3707 2 years ago
No he criticises Thatcher because her Govrnment had no central ideology apart from the free market, which cannot,by itself, hold a society together. Thatcher allowed the education system to get worse, the welfare state to grow, and EU regulation to replace trade unions
relarerfhjk 2 years ago 2
The education system didn't get worse under Thatcher. It has been devalued under Labour.
Thatcher was a fierce opponent of EU regulation, and it was Howe, Lawson and Major who forced her to accept SEA and ERM.
There is no such thing as society. It is an invention of left wing Islington liberals and Guardianistas who seek intellectual justification for a big state that steals from its people and spends our money for us.
Mickmars90 2 years ago
the education system did indeed get worse under Thatcher You know why? Because as Education Secretary, and then Prime Minister, she was collecctively responsible for CLOSING more grammar schools than Labour!
There is such a thing as society, but it doesnt mean what liberals want to make it mean. Society means a community with a common culture, exactly the thing multiculturalism and family breakdown, and globalisation and mass immigration(which Thatcher supported) have destroyed
relarerfhjk 2 years ago
I agree, Mrs Thatcher made a huge mistake in closing down so many grammar schools.
Multiculturalism has destroyed what is known as society. Globalisation of economies dosen't affect society at all. The Chinese have benefitted hugely from globalisation, and yet they still retain all of their traditions and their proud heritage. So do the British, in the form of Church and Monarchy.
Mickmars90 2 years ago
Globalisation does affect society, because it submerges local culture beneath mass global brands, so everything becomes Americanised, and everything small and local and unique closes down, and globalisation brings mass movement of labour, which means mass immigration, another thing that destroys society, as it necessitates multiculturalism. Most of the things Thatcher did made this country worse.
relarerfhjk 2 years ago
Let's assume you are right (you are not). What is so bad about it? The whole point of a market economy is that the consumer chooses. If the consumer wishes to purchase Starbucks Coffee in perpetuity, who are you to stop him?
Mickmars90 2 years ago
It is good to assume I am right, because I actually am, You have z\ero understanding of market economics if you think that is how it works. Major conglomerates use dirty tricks, notably PR and buying up small businesses to smother competition. They are frequently caught doing it. And the international trade rules on subsidies are tilted in favour of big investors, so the prices of certain products will always have a price advantage over local products
relarerfhjk 2 years ago
If people believe advertisements, so be it. Friedrich Hayek debunked the Galbraithian view of advertisements.
Also, monopolies are the product of government regulation. Not all, but most. Healthcare in America is a great example of government regulation having adverse effects.
Subsidies are completely inimical to free markets. Subsidies are the bastard children of corporatism, which is what the world has suffered for a century.
Mickmars90 2 years ago
Well, I think we finally agree. Regulation does indeed produce monopolies,which is why big business loves the European Union,and the flood of maternity rights/minimum wage/limited working hours rights coming out of the EU,all these regulations cost so much that they close small businesses at birth, thus suffocating any potential competition the monopolies might have.
I wasnt talking about people believing adverts, rather how big corporations use PR to hide the source of information they release
relarerfhjk 2 years ago
Which is why I oppose regulation. The true enemy of capitalism is the capitalist.
Mickmars90 2 years ago
He has wailed on Thatcher plenty of times. He is like, his brother, very contrarian and will put a negative spin on anything if necessary to get the point across.
masturbationation 2 years ago
Oh your ignorance makes me laugh ciaran.
Peter Hitchens is no supporter of Thatcher. He laments the Tory party of that era for its obsession with free-market liberalism and its parallel failure to espouse a real conservative philosophy.
kzearo 2 years ago 3
Gloat if you want but I never said he liked or supported Thatcher, just that he might have said the odd good thing about her - in between saying bad things of course: "Her Bruges speech and her famous "No! No! No!" outburst against European Union rule are greatly to her credit...She also deserves credit for standing up to the Warsaw Pact and for breaking the power of the unions..." Hitchens wrote this in his blog and by his standards it is almost canonisation, albeit accompanied by demonisation.
ciaran3707 2 years ago
So a man and a woman are biologically different, yet different races are not?
What a load of utter bullshit.
bettertobealive 2 years ago
bettertobealive, yes that is indeed the case. Women have completely different bodies, and mental make-ups to men, whereas people of different races do not. Its such an obvious point I cant believe you cant see it! Can men get pregnant? Are women as physically strong, or tall, as most average men? Are women as interested inc ompetitve sports as men, or as agressive? But there are no such differences between people of different races. Try thinking for yourself, instead of hurling mindless abuse
relarerfhjk 2 years ago
I prefer Peter. Great conservative.
EmperorConstantineXI 2 years ago 24
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peter is the evil, stupid brother. you know this if you have ever had the misfortune to read his excuse for a column in the daily fail.
bobzilla211 2 years ago
P-Hitch, like his brother, is always interesting
fingersjones 2 years ago 20
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Peter Hitchens - the intelligent one of the two Hitchens brothers. The other is a whisky-sodden neocon cunt.
ProzrachnyTeatr 2 years ago
True story.
Belegaer 2 years ago