For the ones who want to educate those "prefect teens" we have in here(their parents should have done it better due to my opinion) don't waist your time...life will put them in their place. Diana Damrau is one of the bests. Respect and learn.
How can anyone on youtube be so critical of Diana (@idraote). She is a world re-known opera singer. And she is fabulous. This is one of my favorites but I also adore her Queen of the Night.
@the 14-15 year old opera singer - your voice may change over the next several years and the music that is easy to sing now may very well not be in your grasp. Hopefully Maturity will help you in the future to learn modesty. No one wants to work with a Diva in today's business. Great advice musicVocalism!
i'm 14 and my voice teacher really has encouraged me to sing this son for the spring concert. I just love it. Some may say it is too hard...but I have seen harder...this isnt that challenging to me. The challenging part is the italian. I am a high soprano. My voice has changed already and I can sing this.
@ilovekhr100 What do you mean by "high" soprano at 14 you really won't know what "fach" or simply voice type you are... I'm 18 now and I started as a lyric mezzo soprano studying when I was 14 ;) Now at Manhattan School of Music my teachers say my voice is that of a Full Lyric SOPRANO so don't "pigeon hole" what your voice type is b/c you might be totally wrong like me haha
@ilovekhr100 In other words let your voice develop for itself w/o venturing into intense repertoire referring to "high soprano" in other words Coloratura... Deh vieni is perfect for a voice student ;)
heeMCAthee - Der Holle Rache is not suppossed to be sung by a 14 OR an 18 year old! At that age you most deffinately don't have the technical knowledge needed to sing without hurting your voice....and this takes years to come by!
@myassdotcom that's the voices YOU'VE encountered ..I am training with a former opera singer. My voice, I'm now 15, is about as developed as a 23yr olds. My voice has been trained well, and NOT abused. Yes, my voice isn't FULLY developed yet, but it will be way sooner then other singers my age. It's not hurting my voice at all to sing Der Holle Rache, only because the vocal s a rare GIFT from God..end of story.. ALSO you've never heard me sing, so who are you to say anything about my voice
Sweet heart, i'm not insulting you - i'm sure you are a good singer, but 15 year olds should not be singing that song. I'm in my final year at university studying classical voice WITH AN OPERA SINGER and i'm 21 - and i'm not even able to sing that song yet.
Also, rare gift from God? It would really do you well to try and be a little more humble. People don't like diva's.
Would love to hear you sing de holle Rache - please upload a video of yourself so i can hear? :D
heeMCAthee - Der Holle Rache is not suppossed to be sung by a 14 OR an 18 year old! At that age you most deffinately don't have the technical knowledge needed to sing without hurting your voice....and this takes years to come by!
I really like this tempo. So many other versions just drag and drag and drag. It's not a sad song. It should be up tempo. I also really like her voice. It's a little on the light side, but she has a lot of personality to her voice.
@ anyone who read idraote 's comments. Never be afraid to use chest tones on low notes in Mozart, how else can a soprano sing the role of Fiordiligi in Cosi? The high notes in this aria are also perfectly sung by DD. They would sound thin to someone who does not know how this aria should be sung. I am a singer who has sung internationally as well as a university voice teacher an this is my opinion-while not the typical voice that usually gets cast as Susanna, Damrau sings it well.
@ anyone who read idraote 's comments. Never be afraid to use chest tones on low notes in Mozart, how else can a soprano sing the role of Fiordiligi in Cosi? The high notes in this aria are also perfectly sung by DD. They would sound thin to someone who does not know how this aria should be sung. I am a singer who has sung internationally as well as a university voice teacher an this is my opinion-while not the typical voice that usually gets cast as Susanna, Damrau sings it well.
@ anyone who read idraote 's comments. Never be afraid to use chest tones on low notes in Mozart, how else can a soprano sing the role of Fiordiligi in Cosi? The high notes in this aria are also perfectly sung by DD. They would sound thin to someone who does not know how this aria should be sung. I am a singer who has sung internationally as well as a university voice teacher an this is my opinion-while not the typical voice that usually gets cast as Susanna, Damrau sings it well.
@lorifredrics Well, we all argue, from our viewpoints, reading these comments,knowledgable or not. How much I agree with you. The chest notes are coloured beautifully so they are not out of the line, and the high mezza voce is not given more volume for the same reason.
DD is one of the most remarkable singers for a long time. She is different, and will sing for many years.
I love Diana! I found her version of Der Holle Rache this summer and since then I've been on freaking board with her. Her acting is SUPERB.
PS: To idraote: on the subject of those low notes, I have almost the exacat same range as Ms. Damrau and let me tell you, those notes are HARD and painful
@WarOnErrorism91 Thank you!! someone sees how her voice type is. :) I can sing Der Holle Rache, Ach Ich Fuhls, and this. And I'm only 14! (and NO I'm not hurting my voice..it's at the level of a 18 year olds..thank you!)
oh!..I love her so much! She really is wonderful at pulling off any age/character <3
This is beautifully sung... I really like the ease with which she sings this aria. I listened to her Manon on the radio last night and I think Damrau's voice has changed a lot over the last couple years. It is darker, richer sounding now...
To baird292, Damrau is getting a lot of play at the Met, and lots of hype in Opera News. As for this video, that costume is awful! But I noticed a slight chubbiness a couple of years ago, which has lessened recently. She's not as "buff" as Michelle Obama, but Michelle doesn't sing like Diana! Everyone -- go hear her live; or, if not live, the Met on HD. And next season she and Joyce DiDonato -- a fabulous coloratura mezzo -- will be in the same opera, Le Comte Ory, by Rossini.
I must say it's so rare to find such wonderful gleams of light. Damrau is one of the finest opera singers ever. However she never got the recognition she deserves.
Everytime I go on youtube and search through recitals I always notice how important the acting is. It always seems like everyone concentrates on the singing technique. Now, of COURSE this is very important but what brings a piece to life and makes it magical is the acting and I think Diana Damrau's acting in this is really something special.
Generally speaking I like Diana Damrau a lot but this is just not for her. As Mozart wrote it himself 'I have thought of two completely different voices for Suzanna and for Queen of the Night. It can never be that a same singer can take both roles'. Well this is extremely true and here is one proof; this role is just not for her!!
I'd have to respectfully disagree with you, and I guess Mozart, too. She sings the crap out of Queen of the Night, but she sings this beautifully, too, so I don't know! The master wrote it himself, I guess, but Diana can sing either role, and I, at least, won't tell her no!
Inspiring dramatic interpretation. Exactly what I was looking for. I think the choices she makes in sacrificing diction for beauty in tone are just fine.
As to the discussion of diction a number of comments back, I think her diction isn't bad at all. I think there are many sopranos on the world's major opera stages that have a diction that isn't even half as decent as Diana's.
And we also have to remember that diction isn't everything there is to singing. Compare for instance Pavarotti's rendition of 'pour mon âme' with Alagna's. Alagna has undoubtedly the better diction, but that doesn't make him a better singer.
she's a fine actress and a pretty woman. she knows the meaning of the words she sings and has a good pronunciation.
unfortunately those chest notes where the music gets low are as far from the right xviii century style to be quite vulgar. those pianissimos are sung at the right moment in the aria but with a wrong breath support that makes them thin.
both problems could be amended but problem is she chooses to sing so to be more intense.
I am of the understanding that no chest notes are a modedrn thing....one only has to listen to old recordings to witness the presence of them in the lyric soprano rep.
Hello, I am very interested in what you are writing about. Could you give an example of a recording of this where there are more chesty notes? Would you care to elaborate?
How she can sing this aria so tenderly and then howl out the sheer ferocity in "Der Hoelle Rache" is testament to Diana's genius at varied expressiveness.
tiene toda la razón, pero como siempre, tendemos a comparar y, no hay nada peor, por que las comparaciones además de ser una ordinariez, denotan un desconocimiento absoluto del ARTE. El arte, además de técnica, calidad vocal e interpretación, es sentimiento sublime que fluye del artista al público y cada artista, (buen artista, claro), nos hace llegar ese sentimiento sublime por caminos distintos o de forma distinta.
Es tedioso comparar las cualidades de una soprano con otra. Cada una es diferente a otra en tecnica, timbre y versatilidad. Unido a esto ninguna soprano ha sido perfecta, todas hen tenido y tienen defectos y cualidades. Es ahí donde cada uno opta por preferir a una sobre otra, pero es solo eso, preferir, porque como se juzga a quién prefiero lo obscuro sobre lo claro, o viceversa. Es cuestión de gustos.
Es importante que cada uno aprenda a amar el arte y a respetar las preferencias de los demás. Todas estas mujeres son y han sido grandes artistas y esa es la razón por la que podemos apreciarlas aquí, Porqué alguién (que evidentemente sabe mas que todos los que opinamos aquí) las dió la oportunidad de demostrar su extraordinario potencial, porqué vió en ellas algo que un infimo porcentaje de gente posee, Grandeza!
Given that her technique, performance and the sound of her voice are flawless, I think Ms Damrau can be forgiven for slipping up on a little consonant:)
This is one of the most idiotic and uneducated comments I have ever read in my life. Diana Damrau is a splendid artist and a wonderful actress. Don't tell me her diction is terrible in this recording, when the words are right below her. Her diction is quite good and if you don't think so, you don't know a great deal about Italian Diction as applied and used by opera singers.
Unfortunately for you I am italian. Once you'll have completed 15 years of education + 5 of Conservatory in Rome like me then you can start an argument about MY language and the lyric heritage of MY country.
How can you think you know about italian diction more than me? maybe because I wrote my comment in english. guess what, people in Europe get serious education!
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Unfortunately for you I am italian. Once you'll have completed 15 years of education + 5 of Conservatory in Rome like me then you can start an argument about MY language and the lyric heritage of MY country.
How can you think you know about italian diction more than me? maybe because I wrote my comment in english. guess what, people in Europe get serious education!
That's not my point. Are you a singer??? If you are just an instrumentalist, that tells me NOTHING. Singers use a standard diction for singing, which IS DIFFERENT from Spoken Diction. I have taken Italian, French, and am partially fluent in German. However, when I sing, there are various aspects of diction which have to be altered for the sake of tone production and projection into a big hall.
So unless you sing, don't tell me about how you speak Italian. Its irrelevent. The worse singers I have ever heard haven't had singer diction coachings and they sing arias and art songs like they would speak them in their national language.
Oh, and for the record, it's the American singers that get the best diction coachings in the world because we don't speak any of the three languages that Operas are mostly written in. American Singers are the MOST versatile when it comes to having a standard diction that will work well in Opera houses in every country. That's pretty common knowledge. So...people in America "get serious education" too!
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According to our records non-italian singers have a hard time establishing their presence on the Italian stage. The reason is simple. 80% of Opera is written in OUR language. Italian audiences will never just sit and listen to any sloppy singer that comes by. Maybe Americans and others think that Italian isn't really a language, that we all secretly speak english in private, because english is this world's only language...
Lizt 80 you are at it again .We have all seen your comments on this young woman before ...find another axe to grind this one is getting blunt.She is brilliant and has a presence that will defy time long after your little snippy comments have mouldered to dust...
Nice try. A completely non-italian commenting on the correctness of another non-italian! Are you taught to be so presumptuous in school or is it just your personal effort?
That's not my point. Are you a singer??? If you are just an instrumentalist, that tells me NOTHING. Singers use a standard diction for singing, which IS DIFFERENT from Spoken Diction. I have taken Italian, French, and am partially fluent in German. However, when I sing, there are various aspects of diction which have to be altered for the sake of tone production and projection into a big hall.
Ah ah! "the Americans get the best diction coaching!" ...aaahhhh
pity you. You'll always remain in your arrogant ignorance.
There is no "diction for singing". Lyric singing is a "parlato sostenuto". concept that you'll never know because you'll never attend classes in an italian conservatory with the greatest singers of the past (i.e. Stella, Serra, Alva, Cerquetti, ecc) like me.
You can keep your little Italian Conservatory Education... While you keep doing your little "parlato sostenuto", I will learn how to actually sing, as opposed to sustaining my speaking voice on pitch. In America, we have another word for that. Its called Musical Theater...
Maybe you mean to write "It's" when using the verb to be...
anyway... if by "little" you mean singing the roles created by Puccini, Mascagni, Verdi, Rossini, Leoncavallo, Bellini and so on, yes, I'll keep performing them.
This is just stupid. You have no right to sit and bash an opera singer who is currently singing at virtually every major opera house. When you get to her status, then you can actually post obsurdly rude comments about her diction. You need to also understand that Italians DO NOT run the musical world and you all DO NOT know everything there is to know about singing, just because you are Italian. Swallow your pride and show some respect!
Eh eh, I suppose you do know all there is to know... come on, deal with your envy... What I do is my pride and I have all the rights to express my opinion about anyone who "makes fun" of my lyric heritage, like this singer who, by the way, I had to work with and witnessing her incompetence was a sad thing go through.
Sorry, you're just not as deep into the Opera circuit as me to try to argue. give it up. Ciao ciao
Your referencing Luciana Serra?! Her diction is TERRIBLE. She is sloppy as fuck when she sings. She can't even pull of an impressive Queen of the Night. Damrau can. And another thing. The most memorable of composers are generally german anyway. And for me, I prefer Mozart's Operas to ANY Italian composers. You simply have no understanding of true emotion. It's all flowery romance for you Italians. No true fire, simply smoke.
Yes as a matter of fact I've heard a few things by both. One that stands in my mind was Verdi's Othello. Terribly written, I felt like falling asleep.
Mysterious, lasciali perdere va'... non capiscono 'na mazza di cosa dice il libretto e vengono qui a dire "perfect diction"... Oddio, la Damrau non è malissimo, diciamocelo (anche se quel "giunZe alfin il momento" è davvero terribile e a dir poco imperdonabile!) ma la dizione è importantissima, la esigeva Mozart e tutt'oggi non si transige sulla pronuncia. A differenza di questa, Renée Fleming è ottima per quanto riguarda l'italiano. Lo parla pure...
Per sentire che dice Giunze e non giunse bisogna avere proprio un orecchio raffinato ed ipercritico! Ma allora cosa dovremmo dire dei soprani italiani che cantano in tedesco??? Il fatto è che è inevitabile che la nazionalità incida sul modo pronunciare le parole! Per il resto Diana è assolutamente perfetta! Come sempre!
Tralasciamo l'errore di pronuncia, perché è davvero minimo rispetto alla sua solita precisione. Ma Diana Damrau, essendo sicuramente consapevole della sua dote vocale, deve in qualche modo enfatizzare eccessivamente tutto ciò che fa, mille boccacce, mille gesti enfatici, tutto esagerato, quello che potrebbe essere lineare e tranquillo, per lei diventa fin troppo spettacolare, a volte perfino patetico.
Secondo me è una pessima attrice. Hai presente gli attori italiani delle varie "fiction", che recitano in un modo così plateale ed evidente che sembrano tutto meno che naturali. Questa è l'impressione che mi dà Diana. E anche quando canta accade che enfatizza troppo il tutto, risultando finta e innaturale.
Non condivido affatto! Per me è assolutamente perfetta anche come attrice! Guardala come Costanza nel ratto o nel flauto magico come regina! E anche in figaro negli altri video. Se lei non sa recitare le altre cantanti cosa devono fare?
Nel "Flauto" è davvero isterica, nel "Flauto" idem, occhi spalancati, boccacce in continuazione, movimenti assolutamente inutili di tutto il corpo. Eccessiva, è come se avesse la sensazione di non essere abbastanza espressiva e dovesse per forza accentuare tutto ciò che fa.
Be, quando la vedrò le dirò che è meglio che stia ferma come una scopa! Comunque nel flauto mi pare che esprima perfettamente con la gestualità la personalità isterica della Regina della Notte! Specie quando canta la prima parte di "o zittre nicht"! Gli occhi non son spalancati è un effetto del trucco! E' la regina della notte che è un personaggio isterico! Per quanto riguarda il ratto a mio giudizio è assolutamente perfetta!
Leggi qua la critica sull'"isterica" Diana! Diana Damrau smiled, giggled and pranced around the stage as her brilliant coloratura filled the Metropolitan Opera House. She needed only a few notes to show she has a big future. The 34-year-old German soprano made her Met debut Saturday as saucy Zerbinetta in the first performance this season of Strauss's Ariadne auf Naxos, and when she finished her big second-act aria, "Grossmächtige Prinzessin," she was rewarded with a 70-second cheering ovation.
E' ottima nel ruolo del fauno di "Ascanio in Alba" di Mozart, spiritosa e simpatica. Ma lì ci sta bene... quando invece una scena diventa "amorosa" o "furiosa" lei continua a fare l'eccessivamente simpatica o l'eccessivamente drammatica, o l'eccessivamente espressiva, sempre eccessivamente. Infatti non c'è una scena in cui lei non abbia gli occhi "da pazza".
Her sound is big, comes off as effortless and makes sparks in a role that requires considerable vocal agility. She has an expressive face and acts with nuance while making big motions visible to the entire auditorium. In a house where Natalie Dessay's Zerbinetta set a high standard in 1997 and 2003, Damrau carved her own impression into the role of the commedia dell'arte troupe leader moved by the plight of the Composer. Hai visto la Dessay quando canta la regina, se diana è isterica lei cos'è?
La Dessay, vocalmente e fisicamente non è adatta alla Regina della notte, sembra una zanzarina. Se vogliamo proprio essere perfetti, allora Cristina Deutekom! una regina cattiva e isterica, ma senza fare scenate inutili. Ascolta qui su youtube quest'Aria cantata da Toti Dal Monte: altra scuola, una finezza ed espressività malinconica superiore a tutte queste Dive supertecniche di oggi.
Comunque tu pensala come vuoi, non ti voglio mica convincere del contrario. Ciao Mr. Damrau
Cristina Deutekom canta la regina della notte stando ferma immobile come una guardia svizzera! A sto punto non serve a niente guardare le opere basta comprarsi il cd!!!!
La Dessay è considerata come una delle migliori regine della notte (ovviamente dopo Diana)! P.s. Grazie per il mr. Damrau... mi piacerebbe un sacco esserlo!!!
Visto che mi sono letto tutti i commenti che hai fatto su Diana e visto che io la considero una grande cantante e che non sento affatto i drammatici difetti nella sua pronuncia, mi puoi spiegare perchè ti fa così schifo?
Come on guys, this is comparing apples with pears. Both Verdi and Mozart have written fantastic operas; it's purely a matter of taste, and nationality is of little relevance to musical genius. I prefer Mozart, Weber and Wagner, but on the other hand my favourite opera (as you can tell from my nickname) is Les Danaides by Salieri, an Italian composer.
Great! She has absolute command over the large vocal range, the Mozartean style, the subtle modulation of the musical lines. Damrau never ceases to amaze us! Her acting is also so charming and heartfelt. The ease with which she reaches the lowest notes, as well as the musical intelligence of hers, make me feel swhe1ll be remembered as one of the very greats of our times.
For the ones who want to educate those "prefect teens" we have in here(their parents should have done it better due to my opinion) don't waist your time...life will put them in their place. Diana Damrau is one of the bests. Respect and learn.
SylviaLois 3 months ago
giunze?:)
maxtanz 4 months ago
@ the 15 year old singer... yes, a 5 year old can sing this song. now to sing it properly and well... that's a whole different story.
and i can't decide whose i like better... lucia popp, barbara bonney, or diana damrau!! aaaah so beautiful.
kylgirl93 4 months ago
When I come home after a hard day I destress by listening to Diana. :) Ahhhhhhhh! Thats the stuff!
sweetpepper36 4 months ago
How can anyone on youtube be so critical of Diana (@idraote). She is a world re-known opera singer. And she is fabulous. This is one of my favorites but I also adore her Queen of the Night.
@the 14-15 year old opera singer - your voice may change over the next several years and the music that is easy to sing now may very well not be in your grasp. Hopefully Maturity will help you in the future to learn modesty. No one wants to work with a Diva in today's business. Great advice musicVocalism!
HersheyD55 4 months ago in playlist HersheyD55's Favorited Videos
Maybe the best mozartian singer, GORGEOUS DIANA!
diesis23 8 months ago
I love Diana Damrau :)
maiaprimadonnavegar 8 months ago
i'm 14 and my voice teacher really has encouraged me to sing this son for the spring concert. I just love it. Some may say it is too hard...but I have seen harder...this isnt that challenging to me. The challenging part is the italian. I am a high soprano. My voice has changed already and I can sing this.
ilovekhr100 9 months ago
@ilovekhr100 What do you mean by "high" soprano at 14 you really won't know what "fach" or simply voice type you are... I'm 18 now and I started as a lyric mezzo soprano studying when I was 14 ;) Now at Manhattan School of Music my teachers say my voice is that of a Full Lyric SOPRANO so don't "pigeon hole" what your voice type is b/c you might be totally wrong like me haha
MusicVocalism 7 months ago
@ilovekhr100 In other words let your voice develop for itself w/o venturing into intense repertoire referring to "high soprano" in other words Coloratura... Deh vieni is perfect for a voice student ;)
MusicVocalism 7 months ago
she perfect
etoiledelkirov 9 months ago
heeMCAthee - Der Holle Rache is not suppossed to be sung by a 14 OR an 18 year old! At that age you most deffinately don't have the technical knowledge needed to sing without hurting your voice....and this takes years to come by!
myassdotcom 10 months ago
@myassdotcom that's the voices YOU'VE encountered ..I am training with a former opera singer. My voice, I'm now 15, is about as developed as a 23yr olds. My voice has been trained well, and NOT abused. Yes, my voice isn't FULLY developed yet, but it will be way sooner then other singers my age. It's not hurting my voice at all to sing Der Holle Rache, only because the vocal s a rare GIFT from God..end of story.. ALSO you've never heard me sing, so who are you to say anything about my voice
heeMCAThee 10 months ago
@heeMCAThee
Sweet heart, i'm not insulting you - i'm sure you are a good singer, but 15 year olds should not be singing that song. I'm in my final year at university studying classical voice WITH AN OPERA SINGER and i'm 21 - and i'm not even able to sing that song yet.
Also, rare gift from God? It would really do you well to try and be a little more humble. People don't like diva's.
Would love to hear you sing de holle Rache - please upload a video of yourself so i can hear? :D
myassdotcom 10 months ago
heeMCAthee - Der Holle Rache is not suppossed to be sung by a 14 OR an 18 year old! At that age you most deffinately don't have the technical knowledge needed to sing without hurting your voice....and this takes years to come by!
myassdotcom 10 months ago
mi piace..... moltoooo
carlaisabelc 1 year ago
good god this is waaaaaaaaaaaaaay slower then my teachers been teaching me x.x
midnightflowerbabe 1 year ago
I really like this tempo. So many other versions just drag and drag and drag. It's not a sad song. It should be up tempo. I also really like her voice. It's a little on the light side, but she has a lot of personality to her voice.
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@ anyone who read idraote 's comments. Never be afraid to use chest tones on low notes in Mozart, how else can a soprano sing the role of Fiordiligi in Cosi? The high notes in this aria are also perfectly sung by DD. They would sound thin to someone who does not know how this aria should be sung. I am a singer who has sung internationally as well as a university voice teacher an this is my opinion-while not the typical voice that usually gets cast as Susanna, Damrau sings it well.
lorifredrics 1 year ago
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@ anyone who read idraote 's comments. Never be afraid to use chest tones on low notes in Mozart, how else can a soprano sing the role of Fiordiligi in Cosi? The high notes in this aria are also perfectly sung by DD. They would sound thin to someone who does not know how this aria should be sung. I am a singer who has sung internationally as well as a university voice teacher an this is my opinion-while not the typical voice that usually gets cast as Susanna, Damrau sings it well.
lorifredrics 1 year ago
@ anyone who read idraote 's comments. Never be afraid to use chest tones on low notes in Mozart, how else can a soprano sing the role of Fiordiligi in Cosi? The high notes in this aria are also perfectly sung by DD. They would sound thin to someone who does not know how this aria should be sung. I am a singer who has sung internationally as well as a university voice teacher an this is my opinion-while not the typical voice that usually gets cast as Susanna, Damrau sings it well.
lorifredrics 1 year ago 3
@lorifredrics Well, we all argue, from our viewpoints, reading these comments,knowledgable or not. How much I agree with you. The chest notes are coloured beautifully so they are not out of the line, and the high mezza voce is not given more volume for the same reason.
DD is one of the most remarkable singers for a long time. She is different, and will sing for many years.
hedgechair 1 year ago 3
Compare to another similar aria writen by JOSEPH MARTIN KRAUS (1756-1792):
Concert aria - " Innocente donzelletta "
igorvragovic 1 year ago
The best version ever!!! Diana rocks!!!! I totally love her! =D
LorraineCash 1 year ago
I love Diana! I found her version of Der Holle Rache this summer and since then I've been on freaking board with her. Her acting is SUPERB.
PS: To idraote: on the subject of those low notes, I have almost the exacat same range as Ms. Damrau and let me tell you, those notes are HARD and painful
WarOnErrorism91 1 year ago
@WarOnErrorism91 Thank you!! someone sees how her voice type is. :) I can sing Der Holle Rache, Ach Ich Fuhls, and this. And I'm only 14! (and NO I'm not hurting my voice..it's at the level of a 18 year olds..thank you!)
oh!..I love her so much! She really is wonderful at pulling off any age/character <3
heeMCAThee 1 year ago
This is beautifully sung... I really like the ease with which she sings this aria. I listened to her Manon on the radio last night and I think Damrau's voice has changed a lot over the last couple years. It is darker, richer sounding now...
0001cida 1 year ago
To baird292, Damrau is getting a lot of play at the Met, and lots of hype in Opera News. As for this video, that costume is awful! But I noticed a slight chubbiness a couple of years ago, which has lessened recently. She's not as "buff" as Michelle Obama, but Michelle doesn't sing like Diana! Everyone -- go hear her live; or, if not live, the Met on HD. And next season she and Joyce DiDonato -- a fabulous coloratura mezzo -- will be in the same opera, Le Comte Ory, by Rossini.
voiceanddiction 1 year ago
I must say it's so rare to find such wonderful gleams of light. Damrau is one of the finest opera singers ever. However she never got the recognition she deserves.
baird292 2 years ago
Just tell me if I'm wrong but Lucia's interpretation seems much more adequate concerning Mozart's style than Diana's interpretation.
What do you think of it ?
dacor31 2 years ago
Well I think her voice is absolutely spectacular. Really really love it. She has such a free sound, its lovely!
nachtmusik55 2 years ago
Everytime I go on youtube and search through recitals I always notice how important the acting is. It always seems like everyone concentrates on the singing technique. Now, of COURSE this is very important but what brings a piece to life and makes it magical is the acting and I think Diana Damrau's acting in this is really something special.
neoclassicalsop 2 years ago 2
Generally speaking I like Diana Damrau a lot but this is just not for her. As Mozart wrote it himself 'I have thought of two completely different voices for Suzanna and for Queen of the Night. It can never be that a same singer can take both roles'. Well this is extremely true and here is one proof; this role is just not for her!!
vctvi 2 years ago
I'd have to respectfully disagree with you, and I guess Mozart, too. She sings the crap out of Queen of the Night, but she sings this beautifully, too, so I don't know! The master wrote it himself, I guess, but Diana can sing either role, and I, at least, won't tell her no!
AmazingAce87 1 year ago
Voilà enfin une chanteuse qui respecte ce que Herr Mozart a écrit. Merveilleux!!!!
sweetvlc 2 years ago 5
Her diction is actually not bad at all... I'm Italian so I know what I'm talking about in this case! ;)
I love this performance, I'm studying this aria myself and I think her performance is the best I heard so far!
SinsOfThyBeloved 2 years ago 3
Inspiring dramatic interpretation. Exactly what I was looking for. I think the choices she makes in sacrificing diction for beauty in tone are just fine.
RaVenSymphoNie 2 years ago 6
Ogni volta che ascolto la Damrau ho l'impressione che sarebbe piaciuta molto anche allo stesso Mozart.
robertanico 3 years ago 3
Ah! Sai che non ci avevo pensato? Hai proprio ragione!
SteJup87 2 years ago
As to the discussion of diction a number of comments back, I think her diction isn't bad at all. I think there are many sopranos on the world's major opera stages that have a diction that isn't even half as decent as Diana's.
And we also have to remember that diction isn't everything there is to singing. Compare for instance Pavarotti's rendition of 'pour mon âme' with Alagna's. Alagna has undoubtedly the better diction, but that doesn't make him a better singer.
murderouskeeshondje 3 years ago 5
que sencillez y cuanta belleza!
andrebua 3 years ago
Woderfu Diana Damrau and excellent italian BRAVA!
exodus9000 3 years ago 4
This is beautiful!
OperaLover84 3 years ago 7
finalmente i sottotitoli!!! e meno male che è la mia stessa lingua!! XD
Shamigoo1809 3 years ago
I like this tempo. Some may say it is fast, but I think it is much easier to listen to than ones that drag on forever.
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2piddyy 3 years ago
beautiful!
divafisch 3 years ago 3
she's a fine actress and a pretty woman. she knows the meaning of the words she sings and has a good pronunciation.
unfortunately those chest notes where the music gets low are as far from the right xviii century style to be quite vulgar. those pianissimos are sung at the right moment in the aria but with a wrong breath support that makes them thin.
both problems could be amended but problem is she chooses to sing so to be more intense.
idraote 3 years ago 11
I am of the understanding that no chest notes are a modedrn thing....one only has to listen to old recordings to witness the presence of them in the lyric soprano rep.
Tristiano 2 years ago
Hello, I am very interested in what you are writing about. Could you give an example of a recording of this where there are more chesty notes? Would you care to elaborate?
Kind regards,
M.
Songstermom 2 years ago
How she can sing this aria so tenderly and then howl out the sheer ferocity in "Der Hoelle Rache" is testament to Diana's genius at varied expressiveness.
dougbalt 3 years ago 2
This is too fast. I know she's good, but the feeling of this is incorrect because it's too fast.
omtara 3 years ago
todos ustedes son unos inmaduros e ignorantes para comparar una con otra soprano, por favor cada una es incomparable en lo suyo y punto!!!
acitipo 3 years ago
tiene toda la razón, pero como siempre, tendemos a comparar y, no hay nada peor, por que las comparaciones además de ser una ordinariez, denotan un desconocimiento absoluto del ARTE. El arte, además de técnica, calidad vocal e interpretación, es sentimiento sublime que fluye del artista al público y cada artista, (buen artista, claro), nos hace llegar ese sentimiento sublime por caminos distintos o de forma distinta.
harzroller 3 years ago
Es tedioso comparar las cualidades de una soprano con otra. Cada una es diferente a otra en tecnica, timbre y versatilidad. Unido a esto ninguna soprano ha sido perfecta, todas hen tenido y tienen defectos y cualidades. Es ahí donde cada uno opta por preferir a una sobre otra, pero es solo eso, preferir, porque como se juzga a quién prefiero lo obscuro sobre lo claro, o viceversa. Es cuestión de gustos.
yodavidnavarro 3 years ago
Es importante que cada uno aprenda a amar el arte y a respetar las preferencias de los demás. Todas estas mujeres son y han sido grandes artistas y esa es la razón por la que podemos apreciarlas aquí, Porqué alguién (que evidentemente sabe mas que todos los que opinamos aquí) las dió la oportunidad de demostrar su extraordinario potencial, porqué vió en ellas algo que un infimo porcentaje de gente posee, Grandeza!
yodavidnavarro 3 years ago
I loved it - and I'm quite sure Lucia Popp would have loved it too.
Glenmed 3 years ago 4
I simply adore Diana Damrau. She's fantastic.
MissyIssie 3 years ago 7
agreed! I Looooooooooooovvvvvvvvveeeeeee her voice.
loveismydestruction 3 years ago 3
Brava is all I can say no words to describe, just listen and see by yourself
SirEdgardo 3 years ago
who are the other of the cast?
hillevifan 3 years ago
BRAVISSIMA!!!! Where did you get this video?? I want it! Diana Damrau THE BEST
carlossp3 4 years ago 4
Fleming's "perfect italian"... Loooool!!!!!
Gracious me...
Madame Damrau is A PRIMA DONNA. And you're just an anonymous commentator. Bravissima, splendidly sung!
FABRIZIO82 4 years ago 5
Ah certo, perché tu invece sei un grandissimo critico musicale, no?
Ma non senti, scusa? "giunZe alfin il momento"? Ma sei sordo? Ascoltati Alcina con la Fleming.
liszt80 4 years ago
"GiunZe alfin il momento"??? Diction, diction! Great voice!
liszt80 4 years ago
Given that her technique, performance and the sound of her voice are flawless, I think Ms Damrau can be forgiven for slipping up on a little consonant:)
Hypermnestre 3 years ago
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the acuti are not even fully produced!... WHAT A FAKE SHE IS.
all the lame mistakes of pronunciation that i heard from her when she sang Rosina are present here too. Obviously no training has ever occured!
MysteriousSymphony 4 years ago
This is one of the most idiotic and uneducated comments I have ever read in my life. Diana Damrau is a splendid artist and a wonderful actress. Don't tell me her diction is terrible in this recording, when the words are right below her. Her diction is quite good and if you don't think so, you don't know a great deal about Italian Diction as applied and used by opera singers.
signatureotello 4 years ago
Unfortunately for you I am italian. Once you'll have completed 15 years of education + 5 of Conservatory in Rome like me then you can start an argument about MY language and the lyric heritage of MY country.
How can you think you know about italian diction more than me? maybe because I wrote my comment in english. guess what, people in Europe get serious education!
MysteriousSymphony 4 years ago
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Unfortunately for you I am italian. Once you'll have completed 15 years of education + 5 of Conservatory in Rome like me then you can start an argument about MY language and the lyric heritage of MY country.
How can you think you know about italian diction more than me? maybe because I wrote my comment in english. guess what, people in Europe get serious education!
MysteriousSymphony 4 years ago
That's not my point. Are you a singer??? If you are just an instrumentalist, that tells me NOTHING. Singers use a standard diction for singing, which IS DIFFERENT from Spoken Diction. I have taken Italian, French, and am partially fluent in German. However, when I sing, there are various aspects of diction which have to be altered for the sake of tone production and projection into a big hall.
signatureotello 4 years ago
So unless you sing, don't tell me about how you speak Italian. Its irrelevent. The worse singers I have ever heard haven't had singer diction coachings and they sing arias and art songs like they would speak them in their national language.
signatureotello 4 years ago
Considering that Diana Damrau is German, I feel that her Italian is pretty darn good from a Singer's point of view.
signatureotello 4 years ago 2
Oh, and for the record, it's the American singers that get the best diction coachings in the world because we don't speak any of the three languages that Operas are mostly written in. American Singers are the MOST versatile when it comes to having a standard diction that will work well in Opera houses in every country. That's pretty common knowledge. So...people in America "get serious education" too!
signatureotello 4 years ago
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According to our records non-italian singers have a hard time establishing their presence on the Italian stage. The reason is simple. 80% of Opera is written in OUR language. Italian audiences will never just sit and listen to any sloppy singer that comes by. Maybe Americans and others think that Italian isn't really a language, that we all secretly speak english in private, because english is this world's only language...
MysteriousSymphony 4 years ago
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Really, just listen to Renée Fleming PERFECT italian! And Susan Graham too!
liszt80 4 years ago
Lizt 80 you are at it again .We have all seen your comments on this young woman before ...find another axe to grind this one is getting blunt.She is brilliant and has a presence that will defy time long after your little snippy comments have mouldered to dust...
mummacole 4 years ago 2
Nice try. A completely non-italian commenting on the correctness of another non-italian! Are you taught to be so presumptuous in school or is it just your personal effort?
MysteriousSymphony 4 years ago
That's not my point. Are you a singer??? If you are just an instrumentalist, that tells me NOTHING. Singers use a standard diction for singing, which IS DIFFERENT from Spoken Diction. I have taken Italian, French, and am partially fluent in German. However, when I sing, there are various aspects of diction which have to be altered for the sake of tone production and projection into a big hall.
signatureotello 4 years ago
Ah ah! "the Americans get the best diction coaching!" ...aaahhhh
pity you. You'll always remain in your arrogant ignorance.
There is no "diction for singing". Lyric singing is a "parlato sostenuto". concept that you'll never know because you'll never attend classes in an italian conservatory with the greatest singers of the past (i.e. Stella, Serra, Alva, Cerquetti, ecc) like me.
MysteriousSymphony 4 years ago
You can keep your little Italian Conservatory Education... While you keep doing your little "parlato sostenuto", I will learn how to actually sing, as opposed to sustaining my speaking voice on pitch. In America, we have another word for that. Its called Musical Theater...
signatureotello 4 years ago
Maybe you mean to write "It's" when using the verb to be...
anyway... if by "little" you mean singing the roles created by Puccini, Mascagni, Verdi, Rossini, Leoncavallo, Bellini and so on, yes, I'll keep performing them.
Enjoy your Mamma Mia and such.
MysteriousSymphony 4 years ago
This is just stupid. You have no right to sit and bash an opera singer who is currently singing at virtually every major opera house. When you get to her status, then you can actually post obsurdly rude comments about her diction. You need to also understand that Italians DO NOT run the musical world and you all DO NOT know everything there is to know about singing, just because you are Italian. Swallow your pride and show some respect!
signatureotello 4 years ago 5
Eh eh, I suppose you do know all there is to know... come on, deal with your envy... What I do is my pride and I have all the rights to express my opinion about anyone who "makes fun" of my lyric heritage, like this singer who, by the way, I had to work with and witnessing her incompetence was a sad thing go through.
Sorry, you're just not as deep into the Opera circuit as me to try to argue. give it up. Ciao ciao
MysteriousSymphony 4 years ago
Really you have work with her? Where, in which opera?
maggeo78 3 years ago
I guess she felt more or less the same about your arrogance and your stupidity.
Lilith89ibz 3 years ago
Your referencing Luciana Serra?! Her diction is TERRIBLE. She is sloppy as fuck when she sings. She can't even pull of an impressive Queen of the Night. Damrau can. And another thing. The most memorable of composers are generally german anyway. And for me, I prefer Mozart's Operas to ANY Italian composers. You simply have no understanding of true emotion. It's all flowery romance for you Italians. No true fire, simply smoke.
Silversorcerer 4 years ago
Ah ah! (...have you ever heard anything by Puccini or Verdi?)
Are you aware that many Mozart's opere are in Italian? You should read his memorable biography by A. Einstein, you could learn many things.
MysteriousSymphony 4 years ago
Yes as a matter of fact I've heard a few things by both. One that stands in my mind was Verdi's Othello. Terribly written, I felt like falling asleep.
Silversorcerer 4 years ago
eh eh, poor. it's sad to be an ignorant made of stone...
it's ok. Luckily, we are here to appreciate the wonders of this world.
MysteriousSymphony 4 years ago
Mysterious, lasciali perdere va'... non capiscono 'na mazza di cosa dice il libretto e vengono qui a dire "perfect diction"... Oddio, la Damrau non è malissimo, diciamocelo (anche se quel "giunZe alfin il momento" è davvero terribile e a dir poco imperdonabile!) ma la dizione è importantissima, la esigeva Mozart e tutt'oggi non si transige sulla pronuncia. A differenza di questa, Renée Fleming è ottima per quanto riguarda l'italiano. Lo parla pure...
liszt80 3 years ago
Per sentire che dice Giunze e non giunse bisogna avere proprio un orecchio raffinato ed ipercritico! Ma allora cosa dovremmo dire dei soprani italiani che cantano in tedesco??? Il fatto è che è inevitabile che la nazionalità incida sul modo pronunciare le parole! Per il resto Diana è assolutamente perfetta! Come sempre!
maggeo78 3 years ago
Tralasciamo l'errore di pronuncia, perché è davvero minimo rispetto alla sua solita precisione. Ma Diana Damrau, essendo sicuramente consapevole della sua dote vocale, deve in qualche modo enfatizzare eccessivamente tutto ciò che fa, mille boccacce, mille gesti enfatici, tutto esagerato, quello che potrebbe essere lineare e tranquillo, per lei diventa fin troppo spettacolare, a volte perfino patetico.
liszt80 3 years ago
Dai non fa boccacce... Comunque se ti danno fastidio tu ascoltale e guarda il decoltè!
maggeo78 3 years ago
Secondo me è una pessima attrice. Hai presente gli attori italiani delle varie "fiction", che recitano in un modo così plateale ed evidente che sembrano tutto meno che naturali. Questa è l'impressione che mi dà Diana. E anche quando canta accade che enfatizza troppo il tutto, risultando finta e innaturale.
liszt80 3 years ago
Non condivido affatto! Per me è assolutamente perfetta anche come attrice! Guardala come Costanza nel ratto o nel flauto magico come regina! E anche in figaro negli altri video. Se lei non sa recitare le altre cantanti cosa devono fare?
maggeo78 3 years ago
Nel "Flauto" è davvero isterica, nel "Flauto" idem, occhi spalancati, boccacce in continuazione, movimenti assolutamente inutili di tutto il corpo. Eccessiva, è come se avesse la sensazione di non essere abbastanza espressiva e dovesse per forza accentuare tutto ciò che fa.
liszt80 3 years ago
Be, quando la vedrò le dirò che è meglio che stia ferma come una scopa! Comunque nel flauto mi pare che esprima perfettamente con la gestualità la personalità isterica della Regina della Notte! Specie quando canta la prima parte di "o zittre nicht"! Gli occhi non son spalancati è un effetto del trucco! E' la regina della notte che è un personaggio isterico! Per quanto riguarda il ratto a mio giudizio è assolutamente perfetta!
maggeo78 3 years ago
Leggi qua la critica sull'"isterica" Diana! Diana Damrau smiled, giggled and pranced around the stage as her brilliant coloratura filled the Metropolitan Opera House. She needed only a few notes to show she has a big future. The 34-year-old German soprano made her Met debut Saturday as saucy Zerbinetta in the first performance this season of Strauss's Ariadne auf Naxos, and when she finished her big second-act aria, "Grossmächtige Prinzessin," she was rewarded with a 70-second cheering ovation.
maggeo78 3 years ago 2
P.S.
E' ottima nel ruolo del fauno di "Ascanio in Alba" di Mozart, spiritosa e simpatica. Ma lì ci sta bene... quando invece una scena diventa "amorosa" o "furiosa" lei continua a fare l'eccessivamente simpatica o l'eccessivamente drammatica, o l'eccessivamente espressiva, sempre eccessivamente. Infatti non c'è una scena in cui lei non abbia gli occhi "da pazza".
liszt80 3 years ago
Her sound is big, comes off as effortless and makes sparks in a role that requires considerable vocal agility. She has an expressive face and acts with nuance while making big motions visible to the entire auditorium. In a house where Natalie Dessay's Zerbinetta set a high standard in 1997 and 2003, Damrau carved her own impression into the role of the commedia dell'arte troupe leader moved by the plight of the Composer. Hai visto la Dessay quando canta la regina, se diana è isterica lei cos'è?
maggeo78 3 years ago
La Dessay, vocalmente e fisicamente non è adatta alla Regina della notte, sembra una zanzarina. Se vogliamo proprio essere perfetti, allora Cristina Deutekom! una regina cattiva e isterica, ma senza fare scenate inutili. Ascolta qui su youtube quest'Aria cantata da Toti Dal Monte: altra scuola, una finezza ed espressività malinconica superiore a tutte queste Dive supertecniche di oggi.
Comunque tu pensala come vuoi, non ti voglio mica convincere del contrario. Ciao Mr. Damrau
liszt80 3 years ago
Cristina Deutekom canta la regina della notte stando ferma immobile come una guardia svizzera! A sto punto non serve a niente guardare le opere basta comprarsi il cd!!!!
La Dessay è considerata come una delle migliori regine della notte (ovviamente dopo Diana)! P.s. Grazie per il mr. Damrau... mi piacerebbe un sacco esserlo!!!
maggeo78 3 years ago
Tú eres gilipollas, chaval.
Lilith89ibz 3 years ago
Il tuo Tedesco è meraviglioso, sicuro...
Lilith89ibz 3 years ago
Visto che mi sono letto tutti i commenti che hai fatto su Diana e visto che io la considero una grande cantante e che non sento affatto i drammatici difetti nella sua pronuncia, mi puoi spiegare perchè ti fa così schifo?
maggeo78 3 years ago
fell asleep during otello??????????????
I am so sorry...you may have missed some of the most beautiful moments in opera.
gclef2288 3 years ago
i completely agree
gclef2288 3 years ago
Come on guys, this is comparing apples with pears. Both Verdi and Mozart have written fantastic operas; it's purely a matter of taste, and nationality is of little relevance to musical genius. I prefer Mozart, Weber and Wagner, but on the other hand my favourite opera (as you can tell from my nickname) is Les Danaides by Salieri, an Italian composer.
Hypermnestre 3 years ago
Les Danaïdes, yes.
liszt80 3 years ago
No no, the other, less known one without the diaeresis, in which everyone lives happily ever after...
Hypermnestre 3 years ago
Bravo bravissimo!!!! You are completely right!!! And I'm Italian!
maggeo78 3 years ago
the more I watch her the more I admire her!!!!
paminaase 4 years ago
Great! She has absolute command over the large vocal range, the Mozartean style, the subtle modulation of the musical lines. Damrau never ceases to amaze us! Her acting is also so charming and heartfelt. The ease with which she reaches the lowest notes, as well as the musical intelligence of hers, make me feel swhe1ll be remembered as one of the very greats of our times.
Homoclassicus 4 years ago
many thanks. i would love to know how to get my hands on the entire performance
byertalley 4 years ago
that's great
other amazing perfomance by Diana, this woman never stops in amaze me
gracias por el video
fabidivinecomedy 4 years ago
that is an artist sschimel
oboistCONDUCTOR 4 years ago
This season at the Met, she's alternating Pamina and Queen of the Night. And getting equally fine reviews on both roles.
sschimel 4 years ago
Oh, my. Thaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaanks!!!!! ^^
Lilith89ibz 4 years ago
Queen of the Night or Susanna Ms. Damrau is fabulous. wonderful range of skill
operadm 4 years ago
BRAVISSIMA !!!
primobaritono 4 years ago