How To Grow Mushrooms At Home: Pasteurizing Coir

[nickalope24]

iv never done this b4. after i follow the steps 2 this video, do they jst start to grow in the bucket or wat else do i need to do 2 make them grow? please be as specific as possible

[xfireball929x]

What are spores im new to this

[RevisionGraphics]

nice name lol

[SlipAllCityToy]

Is there a good way to grow without a pressure cooker?

[UpcomingJedi]

@SlipAllCityToy Yes, some people find that they can steam the jars without one. It just takes about 90 minutes or so. A good pressure cooker starts at around $29 for a small one at kmart. Unless you steam manure in there, its still good for cooking in and meats come out great!

[the86thcreator]

walmart pressure cooker, hellz yeah

[TheDontshootimwhite]

its called bulk substrate because it is very difficult to become contaminated. You don't put the mushroom spores in the bulk substrate because it dosn't have enough energy to get the spores going. Instead you inoculate mushroom spores in rye grain and later on layer the bulk substrate over the rye grain for that extra kick the mycelium needs to get larger yeild

[the86thcreator]

@TheDontshootimwhite Actually, it's called bulk substrate because it's a bulk amount of substrate. Also casing layers aren't meant to provided a kick of nutrients, but rather a supply of moisture for mushroom growth as mushrooms are 90% water. It also simulates natural conditions when peaking through the casing and all of a sudden getting light and airlfow which stimulates pinning.

[uhltron]

When will people learn to stop pumping crappy techno music in a tutorial. When has a teacher in your life ever pulled out a boom box and set it to full blast while showing you how to do something. Kinda makes it difficult to learn.

[archangel1092]

Okay so once you have this mixture, all you have to do is spread it even in a empty bin, inoculate the mixture with spores, cover it with plastic for humidity, then just wait?

[adiller666]

with the coir mixture, can you use a pf tek type of already colonized jar for pasterizing the substrate? or will it contaminate it?

[MMMBucc]

Where do you get allt hose shroomy songs?

[4jane2man0]

yeah... but how do u make the mushrooms off poop? <serious question

[joslinnick]

Haha, we have the same pressure cooker. Nice!!! Mycelian, I have been using this method with gypsum for years now, but I have noticed that the recipe preforms best without the addition of the coffee grounds. I have noticed that without the coffee, contaminants seem to be fairly rare. Have you noticed this as well?

[agrippaviar]

Nice video!, would this work for Portobello?

[TCHOTBOY813]

name of song??

[AccountabilityBurns]

mute

[oogilygumballs]

What did u inoculate in? What method was used to produce myc cakes and then did u break them up over the coir mix? Can't figure how to pm on iPhone...

[zackery5o5]

teach me your ways mycelian! i have tried growing mushrooms three times before and failed, i think its due to weak spores, in the past i have always ordered spore syringes from spore store and this last time i tried them there wasnt evan any fucking spores in them, 15 days after inoculation and i havent gotten shit, so this time i ordered a spore print and using popcorn as substrate i inoculated it with the spores from the print and im already seeing the white stuff! any tips on casing popcorn?



[tmatherne9]

i dont want to use masons jars will it work if i just put the spores directly to the top of your mixture and take the same steps as you would with the jars

[parsleysprigs]

Your should have posted some results, and like jasen said there are a few things you left out like water to coir to vermiculite to coffee grounds ratio. I have popcorn, verm and brown rice flour can I do the same thing. And what do you do just spawn straight into the bucket or make bags or what, not only that but I figure the density of the coir and grounds would lead to slow colonization and possibly unseen contams. This tutorial left me more confused then before I watched it.

[foxyboi27]

hi mycelian, i've got my jars almost ready and with no contams.. to be transferred out into storage containers. How important is it to keep it at 27-28 degrees at all times? is this essential? and how often do you spray the cakes with water? thankyou! :-)

[iloveweeed100]

This is so confusing!! Do the shrooms just pop out of no were? Or do u need seeds or spores

[TheParker1976]

This looks good but....wouldent their still be contamination from putting it in the pail?

can you email me the answer? phil76parker at gmail

Thanks dude

[walliwalibus]

Hello

Is there something else besides used coffee grounds in which one could use? When you don't drink coffee lol that could be a problem.

[unclemeatster]

@walliwalibus you can actually go to any starbucks (probably other coffee places too) and simply ask at the till for their spent coffee grounds. when i did this the guy assumed it was for gardening, so i don't think it's a particularly uncommon thing to ask them.

alternately you can use worm castings, which have less contamination risk, to supplement the nutrients. if you add too much your substrate it can turn muddy. a bit of both can produce some nice tubs, too.

[walliwalibus]

@unclemeatster Thanks Unclemeatster. Never really thought about doing that. We have all sorts of coffee shops around here lol. That's a "duh" on my part. Thanks again.

[nickdivita]

i worked it out_ to my previous question, and yes you can.... but ! then you will get degradation, in that batch so not the best way....

[11aamiller]

hey is there any information you can give me in were to get spores? or what climate these mushrooms grow at? if you can your alot better then these other people on here. thank you so much!

[nickdivita]

Mycelian its seems your hard work has paid off. Nice......Nice

really like how you have made hole in the storage box, and stuffed it with cotten wool,

good air flow and air filter.

I have one question: can you, once the mycelin colonizes the Coir mix, cut some out and then use that to colonize a new coir mix?

[jo2424]

Quick question, how long does this last or expire? I made some and just used it and still have plenty more but i have to wait for my rye to spawn, which could take a couple of weeks.

by the way, are you baker from the shroomery?

[ZiggZagger420]

this is a commercial

[jo2424]

Hey mycelian,

Would you consider this method a better choice than using the one in the "Lets Grow Mushrooms-Casing" tutorial, using the peat moss method with vermiculite, gypsum and calcium carbonate?

[mycelian]

@jo2424 The only difference with peat moss vs coir is that peat moss needs to be pH balanced so you start putting in things like lime or the calcium carbonate. I have found coir to be super easy to find, cheap to buy, EXTREMELY contam resistant, and the less ingredients in a pie the better, according to me ;) I'm sure they all work about the same, it's how you treat them during fruiting that matters most. (mist fan mist fan mist fan fan fan!)

[12OunceProphet]

@mycelian you are awesome...

[jayanth1255]

@mycelian coffee grounds is coffee powder which we make filter coffee..

[mistermajestyck]

hey does making up this bulk substrate stink up the house?

[mycelian]

@mistermajestyck not at all. it's a soil smell, like earth, not anything like anything stinky :)

[apasowiczable]

so can you use this as a sustrate in the jars,or is a topper that you add on top of already established mycelium,also what do you cover the tops of your inoculation jars with after inoculating,the problem i ran into was i inoculated 24 jars using the PF TEK method, 3 weeks later one jar was contaminated and the other 23 did absolutely nothing.

[mycelian]

@apasowiczable Hmm sounds like you might have had bum spores. I know the first time I tried the PF tek method I was so clumsy with the spore syringe that the jars all colonized at completely different rates, one had one innoc point only and took 6wks to colonize the jar... try again! practice makes perfect. Start with 6-8 jars, repeat process in a week after the first show some growth :)

[aaaaaaaaa000]

so after all this theyll start growing right

[mycelian]

@aaaaaaaaa000 there's a bit of a preparation process involved in growing mushrooms. After combining the colonized mushroom spawn from the glasses in the kitty litter bin coca coir stuff, the bin gets covered and put away in a closet for 10-15 days until it's completely colonized. Then once that's done it's put into fruiting mode and 10-14 days later the mushrooms are generally ready to be picked :) Takes a bit of time but worth it!!

[undeadpresident]

@mycelian What is the purpose of the coffee grounds? I've read pftek and it uses only vermiculite and brown rice.

[MiG2880]

@mycelian

Hi Mycelian. Could you elaborate on your bulk colonisation method, please?

I assume you syringe the spores into the glasses, wait for them to colonise, then add them to the 5gal bucket. What exactly does this involve?

Do you just throw the colonised substrate out of the glasses into the bucket? If so, do you break it up and mix it in or just throw it in whole?

Also, when you cover your bucket for colonisation do you leave any air holes? And finally, is there much chance of mould?

[busbaker]

and these r the magic shrooms that make u hallucinate right?

[sonnyboy209]

I think i'll try this out as soon as i find a place to get the coco coir peat from.

[mycelian]

@sonnyboy209 I picked mine up at the local gardening center, near the soil products :)

[mabus3]

@sonnyboy209 coco coir and peat moss are 2 difrent things