Love Carl Lewis, Living proof of what can be achieved on a No meat, No dairy diet. I would love to see those so called professional athletes with so called good " genetics" scoff down a combo from golden archers during there event. In my world of endurance sports, Ironman, I would welcome the thought of some genetic freak competing at any ironman distance event while eating burgers, fried chips, ice cream sundays, Vs water, fruit, options at the aid stations before 17 HOURS.
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I wouldn't say genetics 100% because that undermines the countless hours they've put over the years to perfect their craft. My only point was that record holders in the events Carl Lewis did individually (100, 200, long jump) each ate meat and outperformed him, that being said, Im not gonna start eating chicken nuggets just because Usain Bolt did when he ran his sub 9.7.
@CerebralPrince10 i get your point, but you would still be shocked when we are talking pro athletes and genetics. Ill give you five years of eating your perfect diet and training. And then go up against pros in the nfl who smoke weed and eat fast food, they will break you in half. Bone size, fast twitch muscle, natural builds... I get that they would not be there if they did not train, but genetics play a huge role when your looking at pro athletes and their diet
The pros in the NFL, in spite of the weed they smoke and the fast food they eat, still train for hours a day in the weight room and on the playing field. Take a professional athlete and have them not lift or train for five years and see if their genetics keeps them strong vs a perfect diet+training.Like diet, genetics are overplayed. Id personally be pissed if I put 25 hours a week into my sport and people downplayed my effort saying I was good just cause of genetics.
Point is Usain Bolt has spent years competitive sprinting, Herschel Walker knocked out hundreds of pushups+situps every day. There isn't a bodybuilder that never lifted, there isn't a dunker that has never done ploys, there isn't a marathon runner that hasn't logged in the miles. Nobody pops out of the womb a world class athlete and I have 100$ for you if you can show me an example of a world class athlete that never trained but made it pro by just having the right DNA
@CerebralPrince10 hmm how i do i put this... i guess living in innercity neighborhood you kind of pick up on these kind of things. Like how the the innercity schools smoke the suburban schools in track and field. They are eating chips and honey buns from the corner store, while the suburban kids are eating broccoli and have personal trainers. A better example of genetics would have been about 40 years ago in pro sports when $20 million dollar contracts werent on the line
@CerebralPrince10 now even the genetically gifted people are really hitting the gym to land that cash. There defiantly are still pros who dont. NBA is a perfect example alot of guys eat like crap, dont lift and hmmmmm are 6'9' and can jump out the gym lol. A little genetics there....just a little lol
Im not saying that there is no influence from genetics or diet, Im just saying that the underlying success comes from the practice you put in. Those guys in the NBA, even those that don't lift, have still put up thousands of shots and hours dribbling, passing, working on defense, as well as the various aspects of their athleticism. It is not like they turned 20 picked up a basketball for the first time and signed a contract because his DNA was primed for basketball success
@CerebralPrince10 actually there are a few cases of that lol, it is rare though. like the red headed reciever for the saints never touched a football till he was 20. Or the soccer players from africa that never played ball till they got drafted just based on genetic size and athletiscm. I guess the point is if you are trying to look at the "best diet" pro athletes are no the best model to look to based on their superior gentics. But yea obviously they train.
@CerebralPrince10 but i can assure you there genetics got scouted in high school long before their time in the gym did. (most high school athletes barely work out, or work out incorrectly)
So, should you be a vegetarian for health reasons? When asked this question, the Nobel-prize winning author Isaac Bashevis Singer replied: "Yes, for the health of the chicken! ".
People if you wan't to stuff your self with meat and those are your views then respect our views. We decide to be vegans, ya decide to be meat-eaters. Can't everybody just respect each others decision in life
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I've been vegan for 3 months... I feel way better than I used to. I'm not sure if it's the meat or the dairy, but one of those was effing me up. I'd never go back, personally.
Eating a diet rich in fibrous vegetables and a large amount of alkilising green vegetables... is a great way to health. There is no nutritionist, or doctor in the world who would tell you to eat less vegetables. Especially if you are eating fresh and organic vegetables you are getting a huge array of vitamins and minerals. I have never felt better than when I started really trying to get more GREEN into my diet. I never use faux meats or anything like that, its junk. Veges, grains, beans
its impossible for me to be vegetarian. my asshole friends doesn't understand at all. and its so hard to start a vegetarian diet alone and have everyone else making fun of me, i know that they are fools but still its hard
@bladdan actually your friends are right. The diet is not as healthy as one with meat included. They are not fools they don't want you screwing up your health.
@bladdan, People will always make up things to make themselves feel better about their own diet and lifestyle. I would just brush it off and limit any debate. Just keep living healthy and speak with your actions by making sure your eating habits are based on nutritional facts.
The problem with vegan is that the substitutions tend to be as bad or worse than the conventional counterpart; coupled with less calories. There is also detox which is often overlooked. Did I mention the grain damage?
I like eating meat but not fatty meat. Every time I eat to much eat or eat fast food, I literally feel sick. As a athlete I like eating healthy because it makes me feel better and preform better.
even the kids around the world know calr lewis is the king of shameless hypocrites and the prince of doped faggots and he still has breath to spell out his bizarre and pathetic bs ...!! eheheh
Your comment is as ignorant as it is pathetic. Incidentally, when calculated as a per-capita basis, there are roughly TEN TIMES as many doping offenses in Jamaica. So get off your high horse before you fall off.
He says his best performances were as a vegan but this is clearly not the case. Why is Carl lying and why doesn't he mention his multiple positive tests for stimulants?
Using Wikipedia as a diving board and so far it seems to go against what you are saying
''Lewis credits his outstanding 1991 results in part to the vegan diet he adopted in 1990'' His personal bests came after he went vegan & the stimulant abuse is much like Armstrongs quite ambiguous, especially given the years that he was involved in when testing positive for doping which was only becoming quite heavy with its laws.
@TheTvrulesthenation Lewis can credit anything he wants. The evidence says otherwise. Gold medals (all games) before becoming vegan - 14, after becoming vegan - 5. Note also that Lewis has suffered from degenerative arthritis since 1993. Should we credit his vegan diet with that as well? Or should we believe Lewis's other assertion and give all the credit to god? In addition, I can show you another diet that can claim some credit for 17 gold medals, and it contains meat.
See the link sports-reference . com / olympics/athletes/le/carl-Lewis-1 . Html I put in spaces so as to let me post the link, you seem to be off. His records pre-vegan are MUCH greater than 15, His vegan results are good but not near his pre-vegan form. Granted he was older, he still came extremely close to winning & he set personal bests + as you say arthiritis could've fucked him over & his doping could've boosted his wins.
I am not here though to use one example to ''prove'' how veganism is or is not better for you in terms of athletic ability. Nor if a meat-diet can give me 17 gold medals, i dont care bout either. I'm just interested in the guy due to his veganism and athletics, his results & inspiration is damn good regardless of diet. He is definitely somebody i'd like to research further
i do want to say thank you, I became a fruitarian after digging more into what you said about the problems with whey and soy.As for your "fruitarians break down" that is pure speculation.after all fruit is best.........
@LloydChristmas777 It would appear so, don't know what I was looking at 4 months ago when I made the comment. Don't see how it changes things much though.
@ranhill - and so do some vegans, especially recent converts to ethical veganism, to begin with. People always 'love' what they're used to. It's why people love their mother's cooking, wherever they're from in the world. But people change diets all the time (for better or worse!).
@wiessyjr I will never be vegan and neither will the world. Just a shiity lifestyle. Not interested at all in a plant based diet. Screw veganpassion. I wish the whole world was meat-eating now that would be an awesome world. Without you pansy vegans.
@lovebigboobs29 - just to emphasise, it's either not noticable cause you are so small, or it's because you are really obese from eating all those abused animals. probably both.
@JustSomePerson888, It's obvious lovebigboobs29 trolls the net hating on vegans. A lot of times it's the insecurity of one's own diet or even lifestyle that makes people vehemently lash out at at specific groups. He's at war with himself.
@LloydChristmas777 - i know, but i hate how people like that can exist, they ruin the whole of reality, so anytime i see them i let them know they're not getting away with it...thanks for saying anyway, usually nobody says anything about or to them online.
@JustSomePerson888, I hear ya. I don't tell people what to eat unless they ask for advice , but when haters make up nutritional facts from thin air, I may ask them to provide evidence. I usually get insulted instead. That's when I provide real nutritional facts from sources that aren't dictated by quacks. Then I get insulted some more, and I go on eating healthy and enjoying life.
@LloydChristmas777 - i suppose it's cause i don't actually know anyone that is into anything healthy and sane, which is true most (not all certainly) of my life, also cause i hate living in places where most stuff is also shit. so i just attack them when i see them online actually defending & celebrating things being so fucking shit. they've ruined the world, most places are trashed, urbanised, everythings done wrong.
@JustSomePerson888, Well you just live your life by example, and anyone that truly wants to improve their health will commit to it and follow suit. I know it's difficult sometimes given that society is full of unhealthy food choices, but you just have to keep looking for the goods. I know because people, and even family have said some really ignorant (and comical things) about nutrition.
Thanks for looking at my channel. Good luck with your journey.
@lovebigboobs29, It's ironic that you think you know a bit about nutrition. Of course you don't feel guilty for eating food; you probably don't have much of a conscience. Eat what you want, but when you talk the way you're talking, you convince everyone that you're an ignorant prick no matter what diet you're on. I would tell you to grow up, but I actually want you to stay the way you are.
@wiessyjr Plant based diets!! Now we have to try to convince the stubborn ignorant brainwashed american public! and pharmaceutical companies! That will never happen, there's no money in being healthy!
@terrillcase in singapore, most working adults eat lunch and dinner out and they generally do not have enough veggies fruits and fiber. most of them would benefit from replacing meat few times a week with something with protein and fiber like beans lentils etc. it is not the meat per se that is harmful but rather if they order meat they will not order healthier options with fiber. colon cancer is increasing in singapore and can be traced to low dietary intake of fruits and veggies.
I never runned fast, I was always slow.. but that all changed when I became vegetarian and then vegan. I don't think it's a coincidence that so many exceptionnal runners are vegetarian of vegan like Carl Lewis, Paavo Nurmi, Scott Jurek, Dave Scott, Dylan Wykes, Brendan Brazier, Tim VanOrden, Roger Bannister and much more!
If your doctor has found a cure he would of been given a Nobel Peace Prize. If the vegan diet was superior you would see all the pro athletes switching over to it. Your argument has been taken to the point of ignorance. I'm not going to debate anymore with you. I have shown you information from respected sources, and you fail to realize the importance of real case studies.
@Magnumscoffeefreek Your "argument" makes no sense. More popular doesn't mean better. You can see the same situation in Windows/Linux, Christianity/Buddhism, SA-MP/MTA and also omnivorous/vegan diet. All what keeps people from trying alternatives is misinformation and habits. It's more adequate to use the results as a criteria. Nutrient deficiencies and health problems are more common in meat eaters than vegans and this proves that vegan diet is healthier.
@DoomedSpaceMarine123 More popular because there are actual peer reviewed studies supporting my argument? Most of the people on here that im talking to are misinformed on nutrition. Anyways there is only a 5% difference in premature deaths between omnivorous and vegan diets. Your studies dont even take into account job site hazards and lifestyle hazards. The only thing it proves is that the vegans studied lived a healthier lifestyle. Not that being vegan is more healthy. Get it?
@Magnumscoffeefreek And how many studies take into account the environmental damage of meat industry, what harms the health of vegans too? How many studies take into account the fact that most production is oriented at majority, meat eaters? Anyway, my health improvements after going vegan are enough to prove that meat is harmful.
@DoomedSpaceMarine123 Your not making your statements clear, "Most production is oriented at majority". I don't know what your getting at. Your health improvements only prove that you had a bad diet before you went vegan. Not that meat is harmful. I'm not saying being vegan is bad, its just not been proven to be better. Everyone wants their beliefs to be the right ones, but nobody knows for sure. Studies results can be spun for anybody's debate. As long as your happy. That's all that matters.
@Magnumscoffeefreek What is unclear in my statement? Bigger number of meat eaters results in more production being unsuitable for vegans because higher demand causes the supply to increase. Also, governments subsidize meat industry and in result, meat becomes cheaper, while fruits and vegetables become more expensive. These problems are created artificially, but hardly any studies take this into account.
@DoomedSpaceMarine123 Supply and demand man.. there is nothing you can do about it. I don't really agree with subsidies. You can't even farm for a profit without taking gov't handouts. I try to buy all local and small market stuff. I'll pay the extra price for organic and free-range produce and meats. I'll actually have most of my own crops within in the next two years. Also my own chickens, ducks and goats. I hope to move off the consumer food grid for the most part.
@DoomedSpaceMarine123 I don't really feel like debating with every vegan that comes onto this post. I'll admit that well informed vegan "lifestyle" is more healthy than the average omnivore's, but most of the studies out there are flimsy and are not even peer reviewed. Numbers can be spun in any direction. Al gore did it with his silly movie. So many scientists tore his ass to shreds for spinning numbers. I used to get caught up in all that hoopla, but now i take a more skeptical approach.
@haridham ROFL ROFL ROFL........ I have no reason to feel guity for eating food. Meat is food nothing more. I will never feel guilty for consuming it or any other animal product. Nice try tho and very funny. I just love making fun of vegan idiots whom know nothing about whats good or not.
@lovebigboobs29 - look who it is - the internets 1000s of channels fuckwit, making outragous liar claims to help his bad karma satanic ego be lulled into a false sense of reality.
your dick is always hard, really? so not only don't you eat right or give a shit about animal suffering, you also abuse viagra. how do you manage to collect the scripts off the doctor if you have a big hard on all the time, wouldn't you be arrested for indecent exposure? so it can't be noticable then.
His best performance came from being 30 years old and not because he was vegan.
I have been veggie before, and for a few years. I feel much better now that i have a balanced diet including meats. If you really want to give something up to be morally responsible. Stop buying products from china.
@Magnumscoffeefreek It is scientifically demonstrated that the vegan diet if properly balanced, is superior to any other balanced diet that includes meat and dairy. I suggest you look at the McDougall diet and get your energy from starches. =)
@rctriplefresh5 I was B12 deficient as a meat eater. I have not tested myself for a while, but it is interessting that even pets that are eating meat every day, such as cats, are also B12 deficient. In anycase, B12 is easily to supplement so no big deal. So Carl Lewis is no longer a vegan? You got any reference for that? :)
@Mekelsior Eating mass amounts of carbs turns into mass amounts of sugar in the system. Causing your pancreas to go wild. Eventually you will become diabetic. Have fun with that! I'm not a atkins freak or anything, but its no joke that many americans are becoming diabetic. The suggested 300g carb intake is making people fat and damaging their arteries. New studies aren't looking to good for carbs. Check out fathead.
@Magnumscoffeefreek Strange then, that Asia and South America is not filled with diabetics and fat people? :) Strange also that I have lost 25 kilos on a high carb diet and even faster on a low fat diet (10-15%). Strange also that people are reporting a complete reversal of diabetes type 2 when going on a high starch diet, and even stranger that we know the cause of type 1 diabetes and that is dairy products. We also know the cause of diabetes and that my friend is fat and not sugar. =)
@Mekelsior The cause of type 1 is unknown. Due to the body mistaking its own cells as foreign cells or a pancreas injury. 3rd world countries dont have 3k calories avalible every day to eat so they don't get fat, and they bust their ass for the little food they get. diabetes is the DIRECT RESULT of your body becoming resistant to insulin. BECAUSE of high sugar levels. Where ever your getting your information is feeding you shit. I've lost weight on a high fat lower carb diet.
@Magnumscoffeefreek The cause of Diabetes 1 is not unknown, milk contains sugars that have sequences that are very similar to the beta cells in the pancreas, when they enter the body through the gut wall, they become foreign substances, the body creates anti bodies and if they sequence is the same as on the pancreas the anti bodies will attack the pancreas and destroy the production of insulin. To assume that the entire Asia and South America is starving is not rational.
@Magnumscoffeefreek To loose fat on a high fat low carb diet is not surprising, you are putting your body in ketosis a stasis that cause the body to consume itself due to starvation, the fat keeps you alive but your body is in serious pain. I suggest you do some investigation into the subject. John McDougall have caused several diabetics type 2 to reverse as well as heart diseases, high blood pressure and cholestrol. Hospitals does not cure diabetes buddy, only diet does. =)
@Mekelsior I suggest you do some more research into the subject instead of just what John McDougall has to say. 10 million people are suffering from diabetes in the African Region and this figure is expected to rise to almost 20 million by 2025. Dr. Paul Zimmet, director of the International Diabetes Institute (IDI) in Victoria, Australia, predicts that diabetes "is going to be the biggest epidemic in human history." It has also increasingly become an Asian disease.
@Magnumscoffeefreek Its not from meat or animal products. Its from sweets or too many carbs. Vegans need to do their research not relying on all the lying vegan doctors a nutritionlists and quit blaming everything on meat. Meat nor animal products are to blame for any of it.
@Mekelsior John McDougall hasn't done crap except post biased studies and claim not eating meat will cure those diseases. You can't reverse those diseases I don't care what The China Study or Forks Over Knives says. They are biased resources
@terrillcase@terrillcase Every study that is made has some bias, but in essence I judge by results and not by theory. The numerous testimonies of people that have reversed their diseases by changing their diets are to many to ignore. Personally I know it works I have dropped 20 kilos in just a few months by changing my diet to the Starch Solution. Eat what you want, just saying there are ways to excellent health and poor health, meat leads to poor health in the end in most people.
@Mekelsior You were probably a fat ass so if you quit eating massive amounts of sugar and fat and anything your gonna lose weight. If you tried to put a diabetes patient on a high starch diet they will go into a fucking sugar coma. Do you even know anyone with diabetes? I do! Your head has been filled with a bunch of activist bullshit. All backed by a scam doctor who wants you to buy his books and join his food club. Don't be a moron. I get my information from one of the most respected hospitals
@Magnumscoffeefreek I have a question for you, why is diabetes in contries that eat as much starch as they want, as in they are never hungry, is almost not existant, and in countries such as USA the number of people with diabetes is insane? Whole food plant based diets high in starch is indeed far superior to a meat diet. True I dont drink sodas and I do not add free fats to my diet and I feel excellent, got so much energy that its incredible. And yes I know several people that are diabetics.
@Mekelsior Im not in ketosis. I stay under 100g of carbs a day. Leaving me far from ketosis. Hospitals do studies with many doctors. Not just claims from one doctor. Just because one doctor claims to have reversed Diabetes doesn't make it true or proven. There needs to be many case studies and reproductions. I never said all of Asia is starving. "Prevalence of type 2 diabetes has rapidly increased in native and migrant Asian populations" US national library of medicine. Almost non existent?
@Magnumscoffeefreek It is not just one doctor buddy but several, the diet is changing in asia as well so yeah it is natural to see more cases of diabetes and heart disease as they are eating more meat. =) If you study the diet that people are adopting in rural areas it is becoming more and more rich. Anyway, you may believe what you want and eat what you want, hope it works out for you. =)
Stfu carl lewis his athletic performances came from steroids and Ben Johnson got all the heat while this hypocrite gets all the glory. I'm not saying he didn't work hard but he did cheat the sport.
@addy800 Nobody proved that he used steroids and it would make no sense if he did - since he was campaigning strongly against them and other banned drugs.
@id1337x He campaigned against them, because he was beaten in the Olympics by a Ben Johnson, another steroid user. Dr. Wade Exum released Lewis' positive test results from the 1998 Oly trials. The fact is, that a vegan diet cannot optimize human performance, and for vegan athletes to perform, they have to rely on heavy artificial supplementation.
@RebelWrestler45 You are ignorant about this issue. He campaigned against much more then just Ben Johnson's use. Dr. Exum only proved that Lewis took the Chinese herb Ma Haung, an acceptable supplement that wasn't in his system in any level that would be noticeably performance boosting. If he actually took steroids the authorities would've taken serious action against him. The vegan diet does optimize performance, because all animal products are significantly less healthy then plant products.
@id1337x If a vegan diet does optimize performance, why is it necessary for even non athletes to take artificial supplementation to stay healthy? The fact is that humans are biologically and physiologically designed to eat animal products, which boost muscle protein synthesis, hypertrophy, and hyperplasia far better than any vegetation ever could. Plants lack important vitamins, minerals, and proteins. Oh, and did you really buy into Lewis' lie? Exum's report showed the presence of winstrol.
@RebelWrestler45 The human body is not designed to eat meat, our digestive tracts and everything even the number of enzymes that digest starches are far more than those that digest meat, we also digest starches faster and get more energy from them, without the added health risks that a meat and dairy diet brings. I suggest you check out John McDougall and the Starch Solution. Plants is where all animals get their minerals, vitamins and proteins. Either as a 1st consumer or a 2nd.. 3rd etc.
@Mekelsior That is simply untrue. Humans are physiologically omnivorous. The human pancreas contains enzymes designed specifically for breaking down saturated fats and animal proteins. Our canines are reflective of omnivores, and are digestive tract is shorter than herbivores, equivalent in length to certain higher level carnivores (particularly cats). Dirt is where all animals get their minerals, vitamins, and proteins; whether it be a plant, primary consumer, or quaternary consumer.
there are sooo many benefits to being vegan. its so important to use your common sense just like with any diet though... to know more on veganism follow me on twitter @sheridansmithv and my blog is sheridansmith.wordpress. com
I'm a vegan bodybuilder (not into martial arts though)
and I'll tell your right now, I'm as strong as any of my friends and I build mass without problem. Animal protein is not an easily digested protein. Your body has to go through hell to digest it (Especially Whey) your body muscles may get big, but it ruins your blood and bones. Why not go with Spirulina, flax oil, and sprouted brown rice protein, Strength, mass and health!
1. I have. Iceage man's macro ratios were as high as 80% protein of which almost all came from meat. Today it is generally agreed that people need 1 gram of protein per lbs of bodyweight each day. A vegetarian weighing 200 lbs would have to eat 1.5kg of cottage cheese a day to get sufficient protein.
2. The fact that we are 'homonids(sic)' is neither here nor there. Most hominids are omnivores like us.
Eat meat then. You're the one that came here to preach. I was just responding. We'd all be in more trouble than now if the world followed your diet. Yes, I stated that we are omnivores, but don't have to be. There are a great many healthy vegitarians that don't seem bothered by your insistence they are unhealthy.
@shunyotube - There's a great many anorexics and morbidly obese people who 'don't seem bothered by (peoples') insistence that they are unhealthy' either. I often find that vegans/vegetarians are on their ridiculous diet to lose weight. What they don't realise when they get on the scales is that they are losing lean muscle mass. If you want to be skinny fat and deprive your body of its building blocks(amino acids i.e. protein) and essential nutrients, go ahead. I'd prefer to be healthy.
Agreed, folks often don't know how to eat and exercise, veg or omnivore. I also would ad that I think a well thought out omnivorous eating probably is the healthiest. I'm familiar with the paleolithic diet idea. But, you can be healthy without it. For me, it's the environment. Eating as much meat as our ancestors isn't sustainable. It really takes a toll. That matters to me enough to adjust how I live. I'm not trying to convert you, and this is going nowhere, so take care.
@AbsoluteMonarchist Yes, lots of Vegans are little girls trying to avoid food. They just latch onto the insanity of the Vegancult to hide the problems they have with food. I think that maybe it is good that this insane diet has so many nutritional shortcomings, people for the most part leave it after a short while because they get sick and weak.
2. Because we are hominids and evolved as omnivores.
3. I've never met one who thought that way. Sounds like an assumption on your part, though some may think that for no good reason. Now it's a choice that is much better for the earth and obviously can be very healthy.
@shunyotube - How is it 'much better for the health' to deprive your body of protein? Please describe a typical vegan/vegetarian diet that can provide for sufficient daily protein requirements. Just a single day with macro ratios so we can also see how they get enough carbs, fibre and nutrients too. It can't be done. Carl Lewis and Ben Johnson were both taking anabolic steroids. Carl lost because he knew jack about nutritional requirements.
It was revealed that Lewis tested positive three times before the 1988 Olympics for pseudoephedrine, ephedrine, and phenylpropanolamine, banned stimulants and bronchodilators also found in cold medication, and had been banned from the Seoul Olympics and from competition for six months.
@cerebralprince10 Funny how you, a "fruitarian", mentioned Usain Bolt as an example. Also, no wonder you were scared to mention your diet...since fruitarians who continue to eat a mostly fruit diet longer than 5 years tend to start to get frail and break down...while losing their minds on such a malnourished and extremely unhealthy diet.
i do want to say thank you, I became a fruitarian after digging more into what you said about the problems with whey and soy.
again you are delusional, I said "Another fruitarian on youtube to check out is Michael Arnstein. You can also look up breatharian Jericho Sunfire" I never mentioned Usain Bolt. As for my diet I told you I was a vegetarian back then
As for your "fruitarians break down" that is pure speculation, explain Dr. Doug Graham and Durianriders?
I recently made the choice to become vegan, and I have been this way for almost a week already and I feel better than I have ever felt in my entire life
@teague7578 Just wait....just wait.....the weakness and lack of vitality will eventually kick in.....then you will come back to delicious, nutritious meat.....life giving meat.
@teague7578 - Animal proteins are of higher quality than grain or vegetable proteins because all the essential amino acids are present, they're present in higher qualities, and along with essential fatty acids, they're present in the proper proportions and ratios that mother-nature intended.
Same here. Never felt so energized. I sleep less, recover quicker, more focused, more alert. I take a hemp protein supplement and Udo's oil for DHA,EPA,GLA, Etc. And I take a b12 supplement (sublingual).
I'm sure he supplemented with some other "stuff" along the way to make up the difference. But it is a fact that gladiators in the roman era were all strictly vegetarians. They noticed it made much stronger bones.
take a good look at heart attack proof dot com which totally supports this. Karem Abdul Jabar one of the longest lasting most highly accomplished NBA players in history is a vegetarian and basically a vegan. Too bad he ate soy. Soy is a phytoestrogen and unless it is fermented and organic, big problems. Especially as Monsanto owns most of the non organic soy and it is all GMO. Only buy non GMO foods.
I love Carl. He exposes how stupid anti-veg knuckle draggers really are. One of the most dominant atheletes of all time.
Ultraspontane 2 weeks ago
wow.awesome its so usefull
almandri 3 weeks ago
Love Carl Lewis, Living proof of what can be achieved on a No meat, No dairy diet. I would love to see those so called professional athletes with so called good " genetics" scoff down a combo from golden archers during there event. In my world of endurance sports, Ironman, I would welcome the thought of some genetic freak competing at any ironman distance event while eating burgers, fried chips, ice cream sundays, Vs water, fruit, options at the aid stations before 17 HOURS.
MrTomclarks 1 month ago
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rajakumara4 1 month ago
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majortomguns123 1 month ago
Mike Powell eats meat
Usain bolt eats meat
It's great that Carl is vegan, but this idea that a vegan diet (or any diet) makes you an athlete is farce. Practice makes an athlete, not diet
CerebralPrince10 1 month ago
@CerebralPrince10 Agree 100%, looking at these guys for diet advice is stupid, genetics 100% with these guys. correlation no causation here
HappierHealthierYou 1 month ago
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I wouldn't say genetics 100% because that undermines the countless hours they've put over the years to perfect their craft. My only point was that record holders in the events Carl Lewis did individually (100, 200, long jump) each ate meat and outperformed him, that being said, Im not gonna start eating chicken nuggets just because Usain Bolt did when he ran his sub 9.7.
CerebralPrince10 1 month ago
@CerebralPrince10 i get your point, but you would still be shocked when we are talking pro athletes and genetics. Ill give you five years of eating your perfect diet and training. And then go up against pros in the nfl who smoke weed and eat fast food, they will break you in half. Bone size, fast twitch muscle, natural builds... I get that they would not be there if they did not train, but genetics play a huge role when your looking at pro athletes and their diet
HappierHealthierYou 1 month ago
@HappierHealthierYou
The pros in the NFL, in spite of the weed they smoke and the fast food they eat, still train for hours a day in the weight room and on the playing field. Take a professional athlete and have them not lift or train for five years and see if their genetics keeps them strong vs a perfect diet+training.Like diet, genetics are overplayed. Id personally be pissed if I put 25 hours a week into my sport and people downplayed my effort saying I was good just cause of genetics.
CerebralPrince10 1 month ago
@HappierHealthierYou
Point is Usain Bolt has spent years competitive sprinting, Herschel Walker knocked out hundreds of pushups+situps every day. There isn't a bodybuilder that never lifted, there isn't a dunker that has never done ploys, there isn't a marathon runner that hasn't logged in the miles. Nobody pops out of the womb a world class athlete and I have 100$ for you if you can show me an example of a world class athlete that never trained but made it pro by just having the right DNA
CerebralPrince10 1 month ago
@CerebralPrince10 hmm how i do i put this... i guess living in innercity neighborhood you kind of pick up on these kind of things. Like how the the innercity schools smoke the suburban schools in track and field. They are eating chips and honey buns from the corner store, while the suburban kids are eating broccoli and have personal trainers. A better example of genetics would have been about 40 years ago in pro sports when $20 million dollar contracts werent on the line
HappierHealthierYou 1 month ago
@CerebralPrince10 now even the genetically gifted people are really hitting the gym to land that cash. There defiantly are still pros who dont. NBA is a perfect example alot of guys eat like crap, dont lift and hmmmmm are 6'9' and can jump out the gym lol. A little genetics there....just a little lol
HappierHealthierYou 1 month ago
@HappierHealthierYou
Im not saying that there is no influence from genetics or diet, Im just saying that the underlying success comes from the practice you put in. Those guys in the NBA, even those that don't lift, have still put up thousands of shots and hours dribbling, passing, working on defense, as well as the various aspects of their athleticism. It is not like they turned 20 picked up a basketball for the first time and signed a contract because his DNA was primed for basketball success
CerebralPrince10 1 month ago
@CerebralPrince10 actually there are a few cases of that lol, it is rare though. like the red headed reciever for the saints never touched a football till he was 20. Or the soccer players from africa that never played ball till they got drafted just based on genetic size and athletiscm. I guess the point is if you are trying to look at the "best diet" pro athletes are no the best model to look to based on their superior gentics. But yea obviously they train.
HappierHealthierYou 1 month ago
@CerebralPrince10 but i can assure you there genetics got scouted in high school long before their time in the gym did. (most high school athletes barely work out, or work out incorrectly)
HappierHealthierYou 1 month ago
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So, should you be a vegetarian for health reasons? When asked this question, the Nobel-prize winning author Isaac Bashevis Singer replied: "Yes, for the health of the chicken! ".
animalrightsrightnow 2 months ago
People if you wan't to stuff your self with meat and those are your views then respect our views. We decide to be vegans, ya decide to be meat-eaters. Can't everybody just respect each others decision in life
DizMonsterWeellityoo 2 months ago
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qaisernadeem1122 2 months ago
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mhksagar 2 months ago
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mhksagar 2 months ago
I've been vegan for 3 months... I feel way better than I used to. I'm not sure if it's the meat or the dairy, but one of those was effing me up. I'd never go back, personally.
Rockafella9 2 months ago 2
@Rockafella9, LOL, good to hear.
LloydChristmas777 1 month ago
Eating a diet rich in fibrous vegetables and a large amount of alkilising green vegetables... is a great way to health. There is no nutritionist, or doctor in the world who would tell you to eat less vegetables. Especially if you are eating fresh and organic vegetables you are getting a huge array of vitamins and minerals. I have never felt better than when I started really trying to get more GREEN into my diet. I never use faux meats or anything like that, its junk. Veges, grains, beans
whataboutredlorry 3 months ago
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@whataboutredlorry Yees vegetarianism rules check out my videos /watch?v=WWMnscY04AY
haridham 3 months ago
@whataboutredlorry I think meat eaters feel guilty about eating meat. Check out my vids /watch?v=WWMnscY04AY
haridham 3 months ago
great :) vegan <3
anna009200 3 months ago
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@anna009200 Veganism and vegetarianism rule i think meat eaters feel guilty about eating meat. Check out my vids /watch?v=WWMnscY04AY
haridham 3 months ago
He'd be better and look healthier with meat in his diet.
lovebigboobs29 3 months ago
all vegans are gay!
privatezib 3 months ago
@privatezib hum... really ? oh shit...
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go up child
xpcmaster 3 months ago
@privatezib Yeah pretty much. They are very feminine without eating meat.
lovebigboobs29 3 months ago
its impossible for me to be vegetarian. my asshole friends doesn't understand at all. and its so hard to start a vegetarian diet alone and have everyone else making fun of me, i know that they are fools but still its hard
bladdan 3 months ago
@bladdan
/stern face
Stop basing your life on what your moron friends think.
bigritchie 3 months ago
@bigritchie lol dont u think i already know that?
bladdan 3 months ago
@bladdan actually your friends are right. The diet is not as healthy as one with meat included. They are not fools they don't want you screwing up your health.
lovebigboobs29 3 months ago
@lovebigboobs29 explain
bladdan 3 months ago
@bladdan, People will always make up things to make themselves feel better about their own diet and lifestyle. I would just brush it off and limit any debate. Just keep living healthy and speak with your actions by making sure your eating habits are based on nutritional facts.
LloydChristmas777 1 month ago
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haridham 3 months ago
Holla! Have you ever tried intellectus 424 diet (google it)? Ive heard some extraordinary things about it and my friend lost tons of weight with it.
sahadhathira456 4 months ago
The problem with vegan is that the substitutions tend to be as bad or worse than the conventional counterpart; coupled with less calories. There is also detox which is often overlooked. Did I mention the grain damage?
Guesticle 4 months ago
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same here. i know of a 20 year old woman who had colon cancer. eat more fruits and less grains and bread.
keeyk118b 4 months ago
same here. i know of a 20 year old woman who had colon cancer. eat more fruits and less grains and bread.
keeyk118b 4 months ago
I like eating meat but not fatty meat. Every time I eat to much eat or eat fast food, I literally feel sick. As a athlete I like eating healthy because it makes me feel better and preform better.
Supercucu123 4 months ago
Steroids then if no meat
terrillcase 4 months ago
Oh I didn't know the Americans now use to call their hundreds of robbed and cheated medals in decades " Vegan Diet " and their doped cheaters & pumped
clowns " anit beef - eaters " ....!!! xDDDDD Ahahahah
even the kids around the world know calr lewis is the king of shameless hypocrites and the prince of doped faggots and he still has breath to spell out his bizarre and pathetic bs ...!! eheheh
americans how typical
Trulyloyale 5 months ago
" anti beef-eaters " correction in my below comment
Trulyloyale 5 months ago
@Trulyloyale
Your comment is as ignorant as it is pathetic. Incidentally, when calculated as a per-capita basis, there are roughly TEN TIMES as many doping offenses in Jamaica. So get off your high horse before you fall off.
decadyne 4 months ago
@Trulyloyale
You're the dumbest person I've come across on youtube, and that's really saying something.
decadyne 4 months ago
He says his best performances were as a vegan but this is clearly not the case. Why is Carl lying and why doesn't he mention his multiple positive tests for stimulants?
MrMZaccone 6 months ago
@MrMZaccone,
LOL!! You really expect him to talk about that?
sonofthedestroyer 6 months ago
@sonofthedestroyer Of course not. That's why I did.
MrMZaccone 6 months ago
MrMZaccone
Just curious if you can point me towards a link that proves he wasn't vegan when he won his competitions & the stimulants tests
TheTvrulesthenation 5 months ago
@TheTvrulesthenation Just search Carl Lewis and you'll be able to find both. I can't put links here very easily but it's not hard to find.
MrMZaccone 5 months ago
MrMZaccone
Using Wikipedia as a diving board and so far it seems to go against what you are saying
''Lewis credits his outstanding 1991 results in part to the vegan diet he adopted in 1990'' His personal bests came after he went vegan & the stimulant abuse is much like Armstrongs quite ambiguous, especially given the years that he was involved in when testing positive for doping which was only becoming quite heavy with its laws.
TheTvrulesthenation 5 months ago
@TheTvrulesthenation Lewis can credit anything he wants. The evidence says otherwise. Gold medals (all games) before becoming vegan - 14, after becoming vegan - 5. Note also that Lewis has suffered from degenerative arthritis since 1993. Should we credit his vegan diet with that as well? Or should we believe Lewis's other assertion and give all the credit to god? In addition, I can show you another diet that can claim some credit for 17 gold medals, and it contains meat.
MrMZaccone 5 months ago
@MrMZaccone
See the link sports-reference . com / olympics/athletes/le/carl-Lewis-1 . Html I put in spaces so as to let me post the link, you seem to be off. His records pre-vegan are MUCH greater than 15, His vegan results are good but not near his pre-vegan form. Granted he was older, he still came extremely close to winning & he set personal bests + as you say arthiritis could've fucked him over & his doping could've boosted his wins.
TheTvrulesthenation 5 months ago
MrMZaccone
I am not here though to use one example to ''prove'' how veganism is or is not better for you in terms of athletic ability. Nor if a meat-diet can give me 17 gold medals, i dont care bout either. I'm just interested in the guy due to his veganism and athletics, his results & inspiration is damn good regardless of diet. He is definitely somebody i'd like to research further
TheTvrulesthenation 5 months ago
Carl Lewis: Sports Illustrated "Olympian of the Century"; The Intl Olympic Commitee's "Athlete of the Century." Carl Lewis: vegan!
FathomlessJoy 6 months ago
i do want to say thank you, I became a fruitarian after digging more into what you said about the problems with whey and soy.As for your "fruitarians break down" that is pure speculation.after all fruit is best.........
mojid1004 6 months ago
9 MEDALS...
GOLD GOLD GOLD GOLD!
xpcmaster 8 months ago
@xpcmaster Not to mention all those bronze medals after he became a vegan.
MrMZaccone 6 months ago
@MrMZaccone, He became vegan in 1990, so let's look it up both the Olympics and worlds before we jump to conclusions:
1 bronze
1 silver
5 gold
LloydChristmas777 1 month ago
@LloydChristmas777 I'm all for not jumping to conclusions.
MrMZaccone 1 month ago
@MrMZaccone, You said "all those bronze medals" while vegan. He only got one. Acknowledge?
LloydChristmas777 1 month ago
@LloydChristmas777 It would appear so, don't know what I was looking at 4 months ago when I made the comment. Don't see how it changes things much though.
MrMZaccone 1 month ago
I love meat.
ranhill 8 months ago
@ranhill missing the Cancer, you will love.
xpcmaster 8 months ago
@ranhill - and so do some vegans, especially recent converts to ethical veganism, to begin with. People always 'love' what they're used to. It's why people love their mother's cooking, wherever they're from in the world. But people change diets all the time (for better or worse!).
baljeetd 7 months ago
way to a vegan world:
1. be a role model
2. dont blame the meatys, show them the magnificience of the vegan lifestyle
3. dont support only short term projects but also long term things like education
stay vegan - google "veganpassion"!
wiessyjr 8 months ago 10
@wiessyjr
Sounds exactly like a cult
sungod221 5 months ago
@wiessyjr
In fact, reminds me a lot of Christianity
sungod221 5 months ago
@wiessyjr Sorry but I love my magnificient meat eating lifestyle.... Will never become vegan
terrillcase 4 months ago
@wiessyjr Screw being vegan. I love meat.
lovebigboobs29 3 months ago
@wiessyjr I will never be vegan and neither will the world. Just a shiity lifestyle. Not interested at all in a plant based diet. Screw veganpassion. I wish the whole world was meat-eating now that would be an awesome world. Without you pansy vegans.
lovebigboobs29 3 months ago
@lovebigboobs29 - just to emphasise, it's either not noticable cause you are so small, or it's because you are really obese from eating all those abused animals. probably both.
JustSomePerson888 2 months ago
@JustSomePerson888, It's obvious lovebigboobs29 trolls the net hating on vegans. A lot of times it's the insecurity of one's own diet or even lifestyle that makes people vehemently lash out at at specific groups. He's at war with himself.
LloydChristmas777 1 month ago
@LloydChristmas777 - i know, but i hate how people like that can exist, they ruin the whole of reality, so anytime i see them i let them know they're not getting away with it...thanks for saying anyway, usually nobody says anything about or to them online.
JustSomePerson888 1 month ago
@JustSomePerson888, I hear ya. I don't tell people what to eat unless they ask for advice , but when haters make up nutritional facts from thin air, I may ask them to provide evidence. I usually get insulted instead. That's when I provide real nutritional facts from sources that aren't dictated by quacks. Then I get insulted some more, and I go on eating healthy and enjoying life.
LloydChristmas777 1 month ago
@LloydChristmas777 - i suppose it's cause i don't actually know anyone that is into anything healthy and sane, which is true most (not all certainly) of my life, also cause i hate living in places where most stuff is also shit. so i just attack them when i see them online actually defending & celebrating things being so fucking shit. they've ruined the world, most places are trashed, urbanised, everythings done wrong.
btw i like your channels uploads and faves.
JustSomePerson888 1 month ago
@JustSomePerson888, Well you just live your life by example, and anyone that truly wants to improve their health will commit to it and follow suit. I know it's difficult sometimes given that society is full of unhealthy food choices, but you just have to keep looking for the goods. I know because people, and even family have said some really ignorant (and comical things) about nutrition.
Thanks for looking at my channel. Good luck with your journey.
LloydChristmas777 1 month ago
@lovebigboobs29, It's ironic that you think you know a bit about nutrition. Of course you don't feel guilty for eating food; you probably don't have much of a conscience. Eat what you want, but when you talk the way you're talking, you convince everyone that you're an ignorant prick no matter what diet you're on. I would tell you to grow up, but I actually want you to stay the way you are.
LloydChristmas777 1 month ago
@wiessyjr Plant based diets!! Now we have to try to convince the stubborn ignorant brainwashed american public! and pharmaceutical companies! That will never happen, there's no money in being healthy!
5tonyvvvv 2 months ago
for those who are just willing to give meat up completely, try going vegan 3 times a week.loads of fruits and vegs and take whole grains and beans.
keeyk118b 8 months ago
@keeyk118b meal isn't a meal without meat
terrillcase 4 months ago
@terrillcase i lover eating meat too. but a general rule , most people would benefit from eating less meat.
keeyk118b 4 months ago
@keeyk118b Not really. Just lower your red meat intake to like twice a week. A meal isn't a meal without meat.
terrillcase 4 months ago
@terrillcase in singapore, most working adults eat lunch and dinner out and they generally do not have enough veggies fruits and fiber. most of them would benefit from replacing meat few times a week with something with protein and fiber like beans lentils etc. it is not the meat per se that is harmful but rather if they order meat they will not order healthier options with fiber. colon cancer is increasing in singapore and can be traced to low dietary intake of fruits and veggies.
keeyk118b 4 months ago
@keeyk118b Gotcha!! I eat meat as well as fruits and veggies
terrillcase 4 months ago
I am about to create a vegan recipe blog, maybe you want to have alook at it.
Just google "veganpassion english", I would be happy about some visitiors :-)
wiessyjr 8 months ago
I never runned fast, I was always slow.. but that all changed when I became vegetarian and then vegan. I don't think it's a coincidence that so many exceptionnal runners are vegetarian of vegan like Carl Lewis, Paavo Nurmi, Scott Jurek, Dave Scott, Dylan Wykes, Brendan Brazier, Tim VanOrden, Roger Bannister and much more!
VeganPua 8 months ago
If your doctor has found a cure he would of been given a Nobel Peace Prize. If the vegan diet was superior you would see all the pro athletes switching over to it. Your argument has been taken to the point of ignorance. I'm not going to debate anymore with you. I have shown you information from respected sources, and you fail to realize the importance of real case studies.
Magnumscoffeefreek 8 months ago
@Magnumscoffeefreek Your "argument" makes no sense. More popular doesn't mean better. You can see the same situation in Windows/Linux, Christianity/Buddhism, SA-MP/MTA and also omnivorous/vegan diet. All what keeps people from trying alternatives is misinformation and habits. It's more adequate to use the results as a criteria. Nutrient deficiencies and health problems are more common in meat eaters than vegans and this proves that vegan diet is healthier.
DoomedSpaceMarine123 4 months ago
@DoomedSpaceMarine123 More popular because there are actual peer reviewed studies supporting my argument? Most of the people on here that im talking to are misinformed on nutrition. Anyways there is only a 5% difference in premature deaths between omnivorous and vegan diets. Your studies dont even take into account job site hazards and lifestyle hazards. The only thing it proves is that the vegans studied lived a healthier lifestyle. Not that being vegan is more healthy. Get it?
Magnumscoffeefreek 4 months ago
@Magnumscoffeefreek And how many studies take into account the environmental damage of meat industry, what harms the health of vegans too? How many studies take into account the fact that most production is oriented at majority, meat eaters? Anyway, my health improvements after going vegan are enough to prove that meat is harmful.
DoomedSpaceMarine123 4 months ago
@DoomedSpaceMarine123 Your not making your statements clear, "Most production is oriented at majority". I don't know what your getting at. Your health improvements only prove that you had a bad diet before you went vegan. Not that meat is harmful. I'm not saying being vegan is bad, its just not been proven to be better. Everyone wants their beliefs to be the right ones, but nobody knows for sure. Studies results can be spun for anybody's debate. As long as your happy. That's all that matters.
Magnumscoffeefreek 4 months ago
@Magnumscoffeefreek What is unclear in my statement? Bigger number of meat eaters results in more production being unsuitable for vegans because higher demand causes the supply to increase. Also, governments subsidize meat industry and in result, meat becomes cheaper, while fruits and vegetables become more expensive. These problems are created artificially, but hardly any studies take this into account.
DoomedSpaceMarine123 4 months ago
@DoomedSpaceMarine123 Supply and demand man.. there is nothing you can do about it. I don't really agree with subsidies. You can't even farm for a profit without taking gov't handouts. I try to buy all local and small market stuff. I'll pay the extra price for organic and free-range produce and meats. I'll actually have most of my own crops within in the next two years. Also my own chickens, ducks and goats. I hope to move off the consumer food grid for the most part.
Magnumscoffeefreek 4 months ago
@Magnumscoffeefreek I buy from the grocery store. Fuck spending all that extra cash.
lovebigboobs29 3 months ago
@DoomedSpaceMarine123 I don't really feel like debating with every vegan that comes onto this post. I'll admit that well informed vegan "lifestyle" is more healthy than the average omnivore's, but most of the studies out there are flimsy and are not even peer reviewed. Numbers can be spun in any direction. Al gore did it with his silly movie. So many scientists tore his ass to shreds for spinning numbers. I used to get caught up in all that hoopla, but now i take a more skeptical approach.
Magnumscoffeefreek 4 months ago
@Magnumscoffeefreek Actually a well balanced Omnivore diet is the healthiest not vegan.
lovebigboobs29 3 months ago
@lovebigboobs29 I think meat eaters feel guilty about eating meat. Check out my videos /watch?v=WWMnscY04AY
haridham 3 months ago
@haridham ROFL ROFL ROFL........ I have no reason to feel guity for eating food. Meat is food nothing more. I will never feel guilty for consuming it or any other animal product. Nice try tho and very funny. I just love making fun of vegan idiots whom know nothing about whats good or not.
lovebigboobs29 3 months ago
@lovebigboobs29 Your just mad because you can't get it up.
Jordonification 3 months ago
@Jordonification Yeah right my cock is always hard. I definately dont have a prob in that area.
lovebigboobs29 3 months ago
@lovebigboobs29 Word of mouth doesn't prove anything in that area.
Jordonification 3 months ago
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@Jordonification Well I would show you if you lived near me just to prove a point.
lovebigboobs29 3 months ago
@lovebigboobs29 - look who it is - the internets 1000s of channels fuckwit, making outragous liar claims to help his bad karma satanic ego be lulled into a false sense of reality.
your dick is always hard, really? so not only don't you eat right or give a shit about animal suffering, you also abuse viagra. how do you manage to collect the scripts off the doctor if you have a big hard on all the time, wouldn't you be arrested for indecent exposure? so it can't be noticable then.
JustSomePerson888 2 months ago
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tobqymaahy3713 9 months ago
"As an actor?" lolol uh huh. Next he will say "as a singer"
tonylongman 9 months ago
His best performance came from being 30 years old and not because he was vegan.
I have been veggie before, and for a few years. I feel much better now that i have a balanced diet including meats. If you really want to give something up to be morally responsible. Stop buying products from china.
Magnumscoffeefreek 9 months ago
@Magnumscoffeefreek It is scientifically demonstrated that the vegan diet if properly balanced, is superior to any other balanced diet that includes meat and dairy. I suggest you look at the McDougall diet and get your energy from starches. =)
Mekelsior 9 months ago
@Mekelsior you are prob deficient in vitamin b12. if being a vegan is so great then why did carl lewis say he WAS vegan
rctriplefresh5 9 months ago
@rctriplefresh5 I was B12 deficient as a meat eater. I have not tested myself for a while, but it is interessting that even pets that are eating meat every day, such as cats, are also B12 deficient. In anycase, B12 is easily to supplement so no big deal. So Carl Lewis is no longer a vegan? You got any reference for that? :)
Mekelsior 9 months ago
@Mekelsior Eating mass amounts of carbs turns into mass amounts of sugar in the system. Causing your pancreas to go wild. Eventually you will become diabetic. Have fun with that! I'm not a atkins freak or anything, but its no joke that many americans are becoming diabetic. The suggested 300g carb intake is making people fat and damaging their arteries. New studies aren't looking to good for carbs. Check out fathead.
Magnumscoffeefreek 9 months ago
@Magnumscoffeefreek Strange then, that Asia and South America is not filled with diabetics and fat people? :) Strange also that I have lost 25 kilos on a high carb diet and even faster on a low fat diet (10-15%). Strange also that people are reporting a complete reversal of diabetes type 2 when going on a high starch diet, and even stranger that we know the cause of type 1 diabetes and that is dairy products. We also know the cause of diabetes and that my friend is fat and not sugar. =)
Mekelsior 9 months ago
@Mekelsior The cause of type 1 is unknown. Due to the body mistaking its own cells as foreign cells or a pancreas injury. 3rd world countries dont have 3k calories avalible every day to eat so they don't get fat, and they bust their ass for the little food they get. diabetes is the DIRECT RESULT of your body becoming resistant to insulin. BECAUSE of high sugar levels. Where ever your getting your information is feeding you shit. I've lost weight on a high fat lower carb diet.
Magnumscoffeefreek 9 months ago
@Magnumscoffeefreek The cause of Diabetes 1 is not unknown, milk contains sugars that have sequences that are very similar to the beta cells in the pancreas, when they enter the body through the gut wall, they become foreign substances, the body creates anti bodies and if they sequence is the same as on the pancreas the anti bodies will attack the pancreas and destroy the production of insulin. To assume that the entire Asia and South America is starving is not rational.
Mekelsior 8 months ago
@Magnumscoffeefreek To loose fat on a high fat low carb diet is not surprising, you are putting your body in ketosis a stasis that cause the body to consume itself due to starvation, the fat keeps you alive but your body is in serious pain. I suggest you do some investigation into the subject. John McDougall have caused several diabetics type 2 to reverse as well as heart diseases, high blood pressure and cholestrol. Hospitals does not cure diabetes buddy, only diet does. =)
Mekelsior 8 months ago
@Mekelsior I suggest you do some more research into the subject instead of just what John McDougall has to say. 10 million people are suffering from diabetes in the African Region and this figure is expected to rise to almost 20 million by 2025. Dr. Paul Zimmet, director of the International Diabetes Institute (IDI) in Victoria, Australia, predicts that diabetes "is going to be the biggest epidemic in human history." It has also increasingly become an Asian disease.
Magnumscoffeefreek 8 months ago
@Magnumscoffeefreek Its not from meat or animal products. Its from sweets or too many carbs. Vegans need to do their research not relying on all the lying vegan doctors a nutritionlists and quit blaming everything on meat. Meat nor animal products are to blame for any of it.
lovebigboobs29 3 months ago
@Mekelsior John McDougall hasn't done crap except post biased studies and claim not eating meat will cure those diseases. You can't reverse those diseases I don't care what The China Study or Forks Over Knives says. They are biased resources
terrillcase 4 months ago
@terrillcase @terrillcase Every study that is made has some bias, but in essence I judge by results and not by theory. The numerous testimonies of people that have reversed their diseases by changing their diets are to many to ignore. Personally I know it works I have dropped 20 kilos in just a few months by changing my diet to the Starch Solution. Eat what you want, just saying there are ways to excellent health and poor health, meat leads to poor health in the end in most people.
Mekelsior 4 months ago
@Mekelsior Meat doesn't lead to poor health at all. Its all the junk food and chips and sugar.
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Magnumscoffeefreek 9 months ago
@Mekelsior You were probably a fat ass so if you quit eating massive amounts of sugar and fat and anything your gonna lose weight. If you tried to put a diabetes patient on a high starch diet they will go into a fucking sugar coma. Do you even know anyone with diabetes? I do! Your head has been filled with a bunch of activist bullshit. All backed by a scam doctor who wants you to buy his books and join his food club. Don't be a moron. I get my information from one of the most respected hospitals
Magnumscoffeefreek 9 months ago
@Magnumscoffeefreek I have a question for you, why is diabetes in contries that eat as much starch as they want, as in they are never hungry, is almost not existant, and in countries such as USA the number of people with diabetes is insane? Whole food plant based diets high in starch is indeed far superior to a meat diet. True I dont drink sodas and I do not add free fats to my diet and I feel excellent, got so much energy that its incredible. And yes I know several people that are diabetics.
Mekelsior 8 months ago
@Mekelsior Im not in ketosis. I stay under 100g of carbs a day. Leaving me far from ketosis. Hospitals do studies with many doctors. Not just claims from one doctor. Just because one doctor claims to have reversed Diabetes doesn't make it true or proven. There needs to be many case studies and reproductions. I never said all of Asia is starving. "Prevalence of type 2 diabetes has rapidly increased in native and migrant Asian populations" US national library of medicine. Almost non existent?
Magnumscoffeefreek 8 months ago
@Magnumscoffeefreek It is not just one doctor buddy but several, the diet is changing in asia as well so yeah it is natural to see more cases of diabetes and heart disease as they are eating more meat. =) If you study the diet that people are adopting in rural areas it is becoming more and more rich. Anyway, you may believe what you want and eat what you want, hope it works out for you. =)
Mekelsior 8 months ago
@Mekelsior Actually a balanced meat eating diet is superior to a vegan or vegetarian diet
terrillcase 4 months ago
@Mekelsior A balanced meat eating diet is better then a vegan diet
terrillcase 4 months ago
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WARNING:
someone on YouTube "Vegan Video" has been masquerading as a vegan offering potentialy dangerous advice to commentators.
i could only assume the intention is to make people sick in hopes of defending meat consumption.
his comments are spread over years and there's no telling how many people were infected by this person.
please copy and paste.
888finite888 9 months ago
Stfu carl lewis his athletic performances came from steroids and Ben Johnson got all the heat while this hypocrite gets all the glory. I'm not saying he didn't work hard but he did cheat the sport.
addy800 9 months ago
@addy800 Nobody proved that he used steroids and it would make no sense if he did - since he was campaigning strongly against them and other banned drugs.
id1337x 9 months ago
@id1337x he used steroids he is just a liar. And nobody proved that he he did but, there were testimonies by trainers that say that he took them.
addy800 9 months ago
@id1337x He campaigned against them, because he was beaten in the Olympics by a Ben Johnson, another steroid user. Dr. Wade Exum released Lewis' positive test results from the 1998 Oly trials. The fact is, that a vegan diet cannot optimize human performance, and for vegan athletes to perform, they have to rely on heavy artificial supplementation.
RebelWrestler45 9 months ago
@RebelWrestler45 You are ignorant about this issue. He campaigned against much more then just Ben Johnson's use. Dr. Exum only proved that Lewis took the Chinese herb Ma Haung, an acceptable supplement that wasn't in his system in any level that would be noticeably performance boosting. If he actually took steroids the authorities would've taken serious action against him. The vegan diet does optimize performance, because all animal products are significantly less healthy then plant products.
id1337x 9 months ago
@id1337x If a vegan diet does optimize performance, why is it necessary for even non athletes to take artificial supplementation to stay healthy? The fact is that humans are biologically and physiologically designed to eat animal products, which boost muscle protein synthesis, hypertrophy, and hyperplasia far better than any vegetation ever could. Plants lack important vitamins, minerals, and proteins. Oh, and did you really buy into Lewis' lie? Exum's report showed the presence of winstrol.
RebelWrestler45 9 months ago
@RebelWrestler45 I sent you a message explaining some of these things.
id1337x 9 months ago
@RebelWrestler45 The human body is not designed to eat meat, our digestive tracts and everything even the number of enzymes that digest starches are far more than those that digest meat, we also digest starches faster and get more energy from them, without the added health risks that a meat and dairy diet brings. I suggest you check out John McDougall and the Starch Solution. Plants is where all animals get their minerals, vitamins and proteins. Either as a 1st consumer or a 2nd.. 3rd etc.
Mekelsior 9 months ago
@Mekelsior That is simply untrue. Humans are physiologically omnivorous. The human pancreas contains enzymes designed specifically for breaking down saturated fats and animal proteins. Our canines are reflective of omnivores, and are digestive tract is shorter than herbivores, equivalent in length to certain higher level carnivores (particularly cats). Dirt is where all animals get their minerals, vitamins, and proteins; whether it be a plant, primary consumer, or quaternary consumer.
RebelWrestler45 9 months ago
@RebelWrestler45 I guess we are at odds then. =)
Mekelsior 9 months ago
tickuyl has a fat butt and fat gutt. After all, he eats meat!!!! LMAO!He probably also smells the way MOST meat eaters do. Ewwww!
37Davida 9 months ago
there are sooo many benefits to being vegan. its so important to use your common sense just like with any diet though... to know more on veganism follow me on twitter @sheridansmithv and my blog is sheridansmith.wordpress. com
sheridansmithtv 9 months ago
After reading some on the comments it still amazes me just how sucked in and brainwashed some people have been by the meat and dairy industry.
The average American looks disgusting and is an embarressment to humanity.
SpaceWalkTraveller 9 months ago
I'm a vegan bodybuilder (not into martial arts though)
and I'll tell your right now, I'm as strong as any of my friends and I build mass without problem. Animal protein is not an easily digested protein. Your body has to go through hell to digest it (Especially Whey) your body muscles may get big, but it ruins your blood and bones. Why not go with Spirulina, flax oil, and sprouted brown rice protein, Strength, mass and health!
calico992 9 months ago
i love a big steak.
fraggledaly 10 months ago
Prove it, seriously.
thecj29 10 months ago
1. How would pre-20th century man possibly get enough protein without meat?
2. Why do we have sharp canine incisors, molars and pre-molars?
3. Why do vegetarians/vegans think all animals have to be carnivores/herbivores instead of a hybrid of both?
AbsoluteMonarchist 10 months ago
@AbsoluteMonarchist
1. Easily. Do a little research.
2. Because we are homonids.
3. They don't. They just know they have a choice and there are many reasons, including sustainability, to choose as they do.
shunyotube 10 months ago
@shunyotube -
1. I have. Iceage man's macro ratios were as high as 80% protein of which almost all came from meat. Today it is generally agreed that people need 1 gram of protein per lbs of bodyweight each day. A vegetarian weighing 200 lbs would have to eat 1.5kg of cottage cheese a day to get sufficient protein.
2. The fact that we are 'homonids(sic)' is neither here nor there. Most hominids are omnivores like us.
3. Vegetarianism/veganism is an EATING DISORDER.
AbsoluteMonarchist 10 months ago
@AbsoluteMonarchist
Eat meat then. You're the one that came here to preach. I was just responding. We'd all be in more trouble than now if the world followed your diet. Yes, I stated that we are omnivores, but don't have to be. There are a great many healthy vegitarians that don't seem bothered by your insistence they are unhealthy.
shunyotube 10 months ago
@shunyotube - There's a great many anorexics and morbidly obese people who 'don't seem bothered by (peoples') insistence that they are unhealthy' either. I often find that vegans/vegetarians are on their ridiculous diet to lose weight. What they don't realise when they get on the scales is that they are losing lean muscle mass. If you want to be skinny fat and deprive your body of its building blocks(amino acids i.e. protein) and essential nutrients, go ahead. I'd prefer to be healthy.
AbsoluteMonarchist 10 months ago
@AbsoluteMonarchist
Agreed, folks often don't know how to eat and exercise, veg or omnivore. I also would ad that I think a well thought out omnivorous eating probably is the healthiest. I'm familiar with the paleolithic diet idea. But, you can be healthy without it. For me, it's the environment. Eating as much meat as our ancestors isn't sustainable. It really takes a toll. That matters to me enough to adjust how I live. I'm not trying to convert you, and this is going nowhere, so take care.
shunyotube 10 months ago
@AbsoluteMonarchist Yes, lots of Vegans are little girls trying to avoid food. They just latch onto the insanity of the Vegancult to hide the problems they have with food. I think that maybe it is good that this insane diet has so many nutritional shortcomings, people for the most part leave it after a short while because they get sick and weak.
tickyul 10 months ago
@AbsoluteMonarchist
1. This isn't pre-20th century.
2. Because we are hominids and evolved as omnivores.
3. I've never met one who thought that way. Sounds like an assumption on your part, though some may think that for no good reason. Now it's a choice that is much better for the earth and obviously can be very healthy.
shunyotube 10 months ago
@shunyotube - How is it 'much better for the health' to deprive your body of protein? Please describe a typical vegan/vegetarian diet that can provide for sufficient daily protein requirements. Just a single day with macro ratios so we can also see how they get enough carbs, fibre and nutrients too. It can't be done. Carl Lewis and Ben Johnson were both taking anabolic steroids. Carl lost because he knew jack about nutritional requirements.
AbsoluteMonarchist 10 months ago
It was revealed that Lewis tested positive three times before the 1988 Olympics for pseudoephedrine, ephedrine, and phenylpropanolamine, banned stimulants and bronchodilators also found in cold medication, and had been banned from the Seoul Olympics and from competition for six months.
paleovipin 10 months ago
LOVE WEALTH AND HEALTH
KANGEN7KEMETIC 10 months ago
@cerebralprince10 Funny how you, a "fruitarian", mentioned Usain Bolt as an example. Also, no wonder you were scared to mention your diet...since fruitarians who continue to eat a mostly fruit diet longer than 5 years tend to start to get frail and break down...while losing their minds on such a malnourished and extremely unhealthy diet.
ironman711 11 months ago
Ah @ironman711 again.
i do want to say thank you, I became a fruitarian after digging more into what you said about the problems with whey and soy.
again you are delusional, I said "Another fruitarian on youtube to check out is Michael Arnstein. You can also look up breatharian Jericho Sunfire" I never mentioned Usain Bolt. As for my diet I told you I was a vegetarian back then
As for your "fruitarians break down" that is pure speculation, explain Dr. Doug Graham and Durianriders?
CerebralPrince10 10 months ago
@ironman711
Have you done this then ?
How are you so certain ?
Rogerlowrey2222 10 months ago
hmmm I noticed that on the wall hanging some kind of animal skin/fur
majidahmaria 11 months ago
I recently made the choice to become vegan, and I have been this way for almost a week already and I feel better than I have ever felt in my entire life
teague7578 11 months ago 42
@teague7578 Just wait....just wait.....the weakness and lack of vitality will eventually kick in.....then you will come back to delicious, nutritious meat.....life giving meat.
tickyul 10 months ago
@teague7578 - Animal proteins are of higher quality than grain or vegetable proteins because all the essential amino acids are present, they're present in higher qualities, and along with essential fatty acids, they're present in the proper proportions and ratios that mother-nature intended.
AbsoluteMonarchist 10 months ago
@teague7578 Great news! Check out the John McDougall diet well worth information to add more strength to your diet. =)
Mekelsior 9 months ago
Same here. Never felt so energized. I sleep less, recover quicker, more focused, more alert. I take a hemp protein supplement and Udo's oil for DHA,EPA,GLA, Etc. And I take a b12 supplement (sublingual).
Good luck to you!
Reflexionanonyme 7 months ago
I'm sure he supplemented with some other "stuff" along the way to make up the difference. But it is a fact that gladiators in the roman era were all strictly vegetarians. They noticed it made much stronger bones.
outdoorking69 11 months ago
Carl is a superb role model for a vegetarian diet. What a star!
jenwill11 1 year ago
take a good look at heart attack proof dot com which totally supports this. Karem Abdul Jabar one of the longest lasting most highly accomplished NBA players in history is a vegetarian and basically a vegan. Too bad he ate soy. Soy is a phytoestrogen and unless it is fermented and organic, big problems. Especially as Monsanto owns most of the non organic soy and it is all GMO. Only buy non GMO foods.
Buteykobud 1 year ago