RDX Deflagration/Burn Test

[havabighed]

Nevermind, I found what Im looking for.

[havabighed]

Do you happen to know what molecules RDX decomposes into?

I'm trying to figure out clean sources of energy and I like the stability and low reactivity of RDX as opposed to TNT and Nitroglycerin. But if it forms nitrogen oxides it can basically be scrapped as an idea.

[crapbag1997]

did you nitrate hexamine with pure nitric acid to make it and if you did what was your yield



[ExothermicVideos]

Looks good.

[randyclar747]

I bet if you put a blasting cap in this powder, with heat and shock, even without containment of the RDx; it blows up like a m/f.

[arkfussion]

So many failed nitrations!!!!

[maxx1231]

hey wat number blasting cap do u need to detonate rdx? im goin to make it and i can get most number blastin caps

[suicidewafflez]

Make some c4 dude... You can make a block of c4 + a detonating system for under $50.

[matzo33333]

@suicidewafflez C4 is RDX with the binding agent polyisobutylene, and dioctyl sebacate as a plasticizer

[diapysik]

man this stuff looks good able to deflagrate high VoD pm me how you make it

[irek412]

napewno to nie był rdx taka ilosc to trup... z podpalajacego..

[Ravenclawfire]

howd u get RDX?

[sejatski]

@Ravenclawfire you stick a pencil up your ass, suck your thumb, hold your breath,spin the pencil around while its in your ass, count to 10, take the pencil out & sniff it. that my friend is pure RDX.

make sure you give yourself a dirty Sanchez with the pencil when your done!!

thats the most important step!!

[Ravenclawfire]

@sejatski thx ill deffinately test that versus the other methods id heard of

[meatpaddies2]

@sejatski This is pretty much correct, just check out my channel for the full tutorial.

[arkfussion]

@sejatski lols



[Agentoxedo07]

Holy-Terrorist:>*=*/' gnehehy

[C-4]'

[Theryolinator]

when you guys comment like that please include a name, because i thought you ment the author of the video

[dasgemuse]

you no what you have to do next??.... HMX

[slither888]

Oh believe me I've thought about it.... Need a way to synth AA first.

[EIMScrew90s]

Ive read that you can synthesize HMX by putting RDX in 55% HNO3 then letting it set for 6 hours in a steam bath but sounds rubbish to me.

I'll show the properties of RDX with detonations in the near future.

[donnelrj01]

@EIMScrew90s

There is a synthesis of HMX via that route, but a while back i made some via HDN -> DPT -> HMX.

It's good stuff, but not worth the effort over RDX in my humble opinion.

[EIMScrew90s]

RDX is bye far my favorite explosive. The Versatility and power of this explosive is outstanding! With the VoD of 8750, it has surpassed any of my previous made explosives!!!

its sensitivity is very low and the explosive itself is pretty safe in my eyes. All around this explosive is amazing. It adapts to every environment possible!

5/5 in my books!!!!!!!!

[slither888]

Couldn't agree more!

[HazMatLabz]

@EIMScrew90s Sensitivity is definitely low, but if it's at -4 Celsius, it will become extremely sensitive.

[EIMScrew90s]

why would i put RDX at -4C?

[HazMatLabz]

You wouldn't, just saying if it was like -4 outside, if it gets to that temperature where ever you live.

[robocong7420]

@EIMScrew90s

how do you detonate it

[sejatski]

@robocong7420 with a blasting cap or booster

[robocong7420]

@sejatski

i used to work as a chemist in a lab, before i got a real job. i made some nitrocellulose after hours when nobody was there. I guess if i'd gotten caught i wouldve been sent to the federal pen

[randyrox69]

@EIMScrew90s is it easy detonated like what type of blasting cap would be used?

[randyclar747]

@EIMScrew90s Yeah, why even bother with plasticizers, and binders, and just use it as is, in a white powder form? I never made it before, but I bet it is some serious shit.

[crazyshitface69]

dare u to sniff it

[Agentoxedo07]

Holy-Terrorist:>sniffing ?? Cocaïn,

no is RDX explosif

[gringochevre]

...after precipitating with water did you boil out the impurities or recrysallize with acetone?

[slither888]

IIRC this batch was just filtered after precipitation; no recrystallization. Probably contained a minimal amount of impurity.

[gringochevre]

..you should look into, Jacqueline Akhavan or Tadeusz Urbanski..

[slither888]

I've have first 3 volumes of Urbanski....good stuff :P

[gringochevre]

..was at a friends house last night and watched the Schnurr process(which slither888 speaks of and the Erbele process (Acetic Anhy/paraform/Amon Nit) the Schnurr yeilded 2oz then was recyrstalized then1.5oz of pure rdx.The Erbele yeilded 1oz of pure.

[gringochevre]

....HA..kewl..no I have never seen videos of c4 burnin..but I have had 30 thousand pounds of C4 air dropped by a C130 talon in 2002 in southern Afghanistan and cooked with it to warm my food while doing demo shots for 2 weeks with it. C4 burns slow ..pure RDX crystals do not

[slither888]

Wow, that's pretty awesome. But C-4 itself is 91% RDX, so it's a good approximation of the pure stuff. I don't know if you could extract it with a solvent and then obtain the pure product again. Perhaps acetone would work. The acid used was 93-95% red fuming nitric acid, but I would think this is good enough to produce RDX and not the dinitrated HDN. It did demonstrate the relative ease of detonation when initiated with a blasting cap that HDN does not.

[gringochevre]

..HA..sure...rdx deflagration is a million times faster..even if this was in slomo it would be impossible to capture without high speed camera...black powder deflagrates faster than your"rdx"..get outta here..I call BS..

[slither888]

HA, only a fucking kewl would judge purity on a burn test. Have you ever seen videos of C-4 burning, or there is another of RDX- it isn't instantaneous and not that hard to believe. Explosive potential is in no way related to how fast something burns. You might want to actual READ a book and learn the difference between deflagration and detonation.

[Eynigma]

You're SO KEWL!

[sirkillsomemore]

I am assuming this was home made...I have been doing a lot of reading on methods to produce RDX and I was wondering what method you used to create yours.

[slither888]

Yeah, it wouldn't be that fun if it weren't... Fuming nitric acid on hexamine was used, but there are better methods that involve more obscure chemicals like AA; kind of hard for the amateur though.

[sirkillsomemore]

awesome thx =]

[jalolwtf]

will that result in RDX directly? i thought it was fuming HNO3 on Hexamethylenetetramine Dinitrate (HDN), help me out here :P

[slither888]

Both ways form RDX. The HDN method is a little milder than the hexamine method and is preferred due to that. If you pure hexamine too fast, the reaction mixture can start on fire :P

[jalolwtf]

aha i see :)

[slither888]

This is pure rdx, and yes you are right. When detonated with a blasting cap it will explode. This was burned not detonated. VERY different physical processes.

[flashsn1pe]

yea i might buy alot of land and have a little shack filled with some goodies (= i wish :P i have to drive far away even to do small things its very stupid )=

[slither888]

That would be the dream. I'm lucky I can do things up to perhaps 30 grams and after that it's hard to blame it on my 30.06 :P

[flashsn1pe]

say it was a dry ice bomb (made of c4) lol jk

[jaymepaille]

But nice rdx though!

[Airguncp]

you can get nitric acid at medicshops, and youll also need methenamine which you can get from fuel tables(esbit). Mix rdx with motor oil, parafinewax and some other plasticizers and you will get C4!

[slither888]

medicshops? Could you please explain? Also, motor oil will only produce a very crude form of C-4, but there are a lot of alternative plasticizers.

[bloutyben]

nah youl just get a plastic explosive C-4 use's an amaizeing plasticizer

[slither888]

wtf, an amazing plasticizer??? If by that you mean diethylhexyl or dioctyl sebacate, then yes.

[nixrate]

phthalates in general are the main and best plastisisers..

[slither888]

Yes, I have tried to plasticize with dibutyl phthalate, but the result wasn't that impressive and hard to detonate. The military uses the sebacates. Have you tried to plasticize?

[nixrate]

unfortunatly not, nothing properly. my country is very strickt along with my parents and i need a decent set up to do that. some day!

[slither888]

That sucks dude. Yeah, I know my dream would be a house with 1000 acres on which to do whatever I feel like! Maybe someday :P

[Daraabstar]

Where did you but the nitric acid?

[slither888]

The NA wasn't bought. It's distilled

[bobsampie112]

where did you buy rdx?

[slither888]

Buy rdx??? Good one :P

[jsmithmilitary]

retard

[jsmithmilitary]

your obviously a child

[rdxroseroberts]

i love it nice and power full

[slither888]

Indeed! :P

[enadon1]

the hexamine is hard to get i bet

[Daniel1003]

Nah man, easy stuff, go to a camping shop, they sell it as "cooking tablets" make sure it says hexamine on it though.

[slither888]

You may want to purify the hexamine if you go with the tablets.

[nitrex]

To synthesis RDX you will need White nitric acid. Did you make your white nitric acid ? or did you buy it ? I am having a hard time finding it. If i am correct, there is another method of RDX synthesis.

[ionavalanche]

make your own nitric acid, very easy and saves you from having to pay a shit load of money for the nitric acid you need. look in my favorites to see a video on how to do it.

[slither888]

Don't listen to this idiot, you most definitely need the acid as "white" as you can get it otherwise the reaction can be very dangerous with poor yield.

[PoopSwindler]

Man you are stupid jaymepaille! stupid stupid stupid! everyone knows that NOx turn your reaction to crap. Why do you think the MILLITARY uses so much WHITE fuming nitric acid. I first I thought you were kidding but you are serious. That is funny. stupid!

[wtfmrkaffe]

good work man 5/5

[cobrasniper555]

Very nice. What was the yield on your synthesis?

[slither888]

I didn't record the yield. It was pretty low though. The reaction caught on fire for a few moments. Hopefully the HDN method is better.

[marmaladekamikaze]

Did you use very pure nitric acid upon methanamine or figure out a way of making it from the nitroSamine.

[slither888]

Yes, it was NA on hexamine. Problem was that there was still a lot of dissolved NOx in it which leads to side reactions.

[BenHBX]

what concentration of acid did you use? and did you have to control the temperature?

[TheFluorineMartyr]

Have you heard of the method of condensing formaldehyde with sulphamic acid then nitration?

I dont know a lot about it, but it may be worth some research.

[slither888]

Nope, perhaps it somehow forms hexamine in situ and then rdx on nitration. The only problem is that formaldehyde is not readily accessible for me (ironic since its one of the cheapest industrially), or making hexamine would be very cheap

[slither888]

I would encourage you to do some research if you have the time, which more than a lot of us have unfortunately.