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  • Awesome, Paul! I've always wondered why in the video posted by Ben Jeffrey wasn't stumbling (don't think he actaully did, but looked like it) towards the end of the song like in the laufi video... Thanks for the precious info!:D

    Cheers!

    GMT

  • Yeah. That's because they filmed TWO separate sequences. Both during sound check.

  • Yup! Ian was quite a perfectionist now, wasn't he?

    'he just salutes the audience and walks away (lame)... ' - I just loved this part of the description!:D

  • Great stuff Paul,

    I always hated the fact that laufi watermarked all his videos

  • Yeah. Laufi acts like he OWNS this footage. It belongs to the German station that edited this piece (entitled "ALL YOU NEED IS LOVE").

    But I'm not gonna bash Laufi. He's brought to light some very rare stuff over the years.

  • You're a good man Paul. I mean if Laufi's intentions are to share the material then what does it matter? I think it that context it's very uncool to watermark the material with your name. I just crop it out, i enjoy it just as well and i'm sure anyone who sees this for the first time most likely wouldn't notice anything, they're just happy to see it. Probably the purist, hardcore collector may scoff but they already have the stuff and wouldn't need me anyway.

  • Randy. Do you remember someone on YouTube offering to sell rare concert footage of Tull (from the TAAB tour in 1972) about 4 or 5 years ago?

    The film was shot on the stage and very clear.

    When I contacted the guy, he said he was asking $10,000 for the footage. (This was NOT that 8mm amateur stuff shot from the audience.)

    The guy posted a 10 second clip of Tull onstage. When no one agreed to his offer, he took his post down. I haven't seen anything of him again.

  • Can't say that I do. That's news to me, wow, clear footage of the Brick tour in 72? Don't know what I would've done. For ex., if I had a pro-shot Lamb tour I think I would approach the band first to work out a deal, royalties,whatever,etc. If it didn't work out w/the band then I would then approach some type of official entity to do business with. I would probably exhaust every legal option I can find before doing it myself.

  • Hey Paul. Good to see all the Tull regulars here. Do you think Ian has any of these videos stashed away? And if he did, do you think he would release them?

  • Great stuff Paul.

    So neither of them where live, correct?

    Thanks! Nick

  • Yeah. Neither of them were live. They were both "staged" at the sound-check earlier in the day so Ian could put cameras on the stage. The audio was added later. And the sound they used was from the SINGLE 45rpm European release of the song MINSTREL IN THE GALLERY, which came out about a month before the album did. (The B-side was "Summerday Sands.")

    But the acoustic and instrumental parts you posted WERE filmed in front of a live audience later that night... as was 70 minutes of that show.

  • Oh I get it.

    Do you have any real live audio preformences live of MITG? I have about 5 from 1975, and I have a bootleg that sounds like a sound board.

    I might upload it.

    Thanks!! Nick

  • Was that sound board one MINSTREL IN THE RED HOUSE... which was a BBC recording.

  • No it is from a bootleg show, (sounds like a SBD), from 1-10-75.

    Its incomplete, It is the same track listing as the tampa show in 76 except the first track is minstrel because of the minstrel tour.

    Real nice and rare show. Thanks!! Nick

  • Very interesting, Dr Hart! This clip was shown again on UK TV last week. It seems to be the stock library footage now whenever Tull get a mention. So why do we never see any more of the footage? It seems the project was left incomplete. I'd always assumed it was in the archive of some French TV station, but if Chrysalis or EMI own it, and given its significance, you'd think it would have seen the light of day by now.

  • Yeah, though this Paris concert WAS filmed (about 70 minutes according to Ian himself)... I don't think the footage was ever put together properly. In September 1975, Ian said the footage would be "released on a video disc, which is still years away."

    As we all know, there were no commercial video products available to the public in 1975. VHS, PAL, BETA and Laser Discs... all didn't come out until about 1980.

    And yes, Chrysalis Records filmed the show, not a French TV station.

  • I've just realised that the Passion Play excerpt from the 25th anniversary box set was taped at this show. That proves that the soundboard audio still exists, if nothing else. Just baffling that no one close to the band thinks that this unique stuff has any commercial value.

  • That's right. That Passion Play excerpt was also FILMED. About 70 minutes of this July 1975 Paris show was filmed... to be released on a Chrysalis "video disk."

  • What I mean though is that this stuff must have been unearthed when the box set was put together. It must exist, but no one seems to have considered that the rest of it might be of some interest! From what I can gather, there are no soundboard recordings of Jeffrey era Tull out there. WTF?

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