Hi there Scottie and all. I have a San Marino commercial machine with a 8 mm steam wand with 5 holes at .9mm each. Having problems texturing milk, even full cream, for artwork. Dont think it,s my technique as i have done my training and working in restaurants. Will stepping up to a 10 mm arm with 4 smaller holes make a difference? The current one makes coarse rather than silky textured full cream milk froth. Your help is appreciated.
Hey bro. Ive been trying to do some reserch. Do you think that a clockwise or anticlockwise swirl would make a difference. Ive noticed that a lot of really good latte artists use a clockwise motion. Ive just started back behind the machine (used to do the comps) and Ive lost my touch with the milk. Still quite good but not like thick paint. Could be better ... Any ideas?
Ok first off this is a domestic coffee machine. It is an E-61heat exchanger tanked (not plumbed in) machine. It doesn't mater what the machine is for optimal espresso extraction you want the pump pressure to be set at 8.5-9.5 bars. What you are seeing in the video is not pump driven but simply steam escaping from a boiler (through a steam pipe) and it wouldn't be higher then 1.3 bar.
Based on the results, I know of no one who can do the milk better than you do, and yes I have always wanted to see how you do it. Thank you very much for taking the time to share this.
Giotto Premium. Use to be made by ECM, now branded under "Rocket Espresso" but still ECM parts. I got one at the end of last year, Standard steam tip is pretty crappy as steam pressure drops way too quickly; I had to modify mine a bit to get proper micro foam.
i think you spend too much money for a giotto. There are better machines for less. The expobar machines (domestic) are nice and a tad cheaper...how did you mod your gioto?
Expobar has crappy build quality and not as reliable. The other alternative is VBM Super Lever, very very strong steam but espresso quality probably not as good as the Giotto.
Otherwise you can get proper tips with smaller holes from Chris coffee in the US, I think it was the NEW 2 holes Isomac tip, you'll also need to get the 8mm to 10mm female to male converter
I can't post weblink in the comment section. It's from Chirs coffee in the US. The parts you want are the "New" Isomac 2 Hole Steam Tip and Adaptor converts 8 mm female to 10 mm male, should be pretty easy to find. But do remember it will take twice to three times as long to steam the same amount of milk.
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mangowarmespresso 11 months ago
Hi there Scottie and all. I have a San Marino commercial machine with a 8 mm steam wand with 5 holes at .9mm each. Having problems texturing milk, even full cream, for artwork. Dont think it,s my technique as i have done my training and working in restaurants. Will stepping up to a 10 mm arm with 4 smaller holes make a difference? The current one makes coarse rather than silky textured full cream milk froth. Your help is appreciated.
sidewayss11 1 year ago
thanks Scottie!!! was really helpful!!!
nanrmz 1 year ago
Hey bro. Ive been trying to do some reserch. Do you think that a clockwise or anticlockwise swirl would make a difference. Ive noticed that a lot of really good latte artists use a clockwise motion. Ive just started back behind the machine (used to do the comps) and Ive lost my touch with the milk. Still quite good but not like thick paint. Could be better ... Any ideas?
freezingheat27 1 year ago
Thanks Scottie, we beginners need detailed explanations like this.
Nicely done.
ozzirt 2 years ago
Is it better to have wetter steam or dryer steam to texture milk?
fw23q 2 years ago
dryer steam.
panhead88 2 years ago
hahahahaha "the exact amount of seconds you stretch for will depend on the size of your jugs (milk jugs that is)." classic ^^
lolgivemeaname 2 years ago
this is definitely not a home espresso machine..the difference in bars are quite important!
nefeloma 2 years ago
Are you so sure? Thats an E-61 single group machine, a "home" machine like the one I own.
davidr2005 2 years ago
how many bars does it have?i think i've seen max 15 in home machines,but here it seems much stronger
nefeloma 2 years ago
This is a home machine, at 0:12 you see thee other side of the drip tray.
12bar you are thinking of is the boiler. The pressure used to steam is much different (1.5bar...ish)
15bar = 217 pounds per square inch
if he had 15 bar steaming im sure that milk would be on every wall in that room.
davidr2005 2 years ago
ok,thanks for the enlightment!!:)
nefeloma 2 years ago
Ok first off this is a domestic coffee machine. It is an E-61heat exchanger tanked (not plumbed in) machine. It doesn't mater what the machine is for optimal espresso extraction you want the pump pressure to be set at 8.5-9.5 bars. What you are seeing in the video is not pump driven but simply steam escaping from a boiler (through a steam pipe) and it wouldn't be higher then 1.3 bar.
MartialMonkey 2 years ago
Im pretty sure this is a ECM Giotto. not really a domestic. more like a semi commercial.
panhead88 2 years ago
I heat my milk to 160 degrees, like Starbucks. : ) But then again I make mochas.
TheOn3LeftBehind 3 years ago
65 degrees centigrade = around 150 degrees fahrenheit. milk should be heated between 140 and 160, anything hotter than 160 and your milk is scalded.
swaggerinmystep 2 years ago
this really helps cuz you know, we all have one of those fancy machines in our kitchen rite?
josenda2844unome 3 years ago
you are such a moron.
taloc00000 3 years ago 2
he won the world latte art championships in 06...hes bound to
winforwon 3 years ago
Based on the results, I know of no one who can do the milk better than you do, and yes I have always wanted to see how you do it. Thank you very much for taking the time to share this.
arabiccola 3 years ago 6
Scottie that was really informative.
rodentia 3 years ago 5
i've been looking for some instruction, i'm good at making a coffee, but want to have fun, and do it better, finding your stuff is a breath of fresh
hollowmenrule 3 years ago
I wanna ask, the wand shows in the video is the original or modding one?
thiu12 3 years ago
thanks a bunch! exactly what i was hoping to learn......u da best!
smasherat 3 years ago
Thanks for your video, this video shows very clear how to texture milk.
thiu12 3 years ago
good instructional. the vid description could use some metric-imperial conversion and a bit of proofreading tho
eugeneugene 3 years ago
hey what machine are you using? its something i want to get! thanks.
panhead88 3 years ago
Giotto Premium. Use to be made by ECM, now branded under "Rocket Espresso" but still ECM parts. I got one at the end of last year, Standard steam tip is pretty crappy as steam pressure drops way too quickly; I had to modify mine a bit to get proper micro foam.
baconmeister 3 years ago
Giotto..thats the one..i want to get that and a mini mazzo. thanks for that.
panhead88 3 years ago
i think you spend too much money for a giotto. There are better machines for less. The expobar machines (domestic) are nice and a tad cheaper...how did you mod your gioto?
winforwon 3 years ago
Expobar has crappy build quality and not as reliable. The other alternative is VBM Super Lever, very very strong steam but espresso quality probably not as good as the Giotto.
baconmeister 3 years ago
Can you please tell me what exactly the mod you mention is? I have a Giotto premium with a 2-hole tip and it is really hard to get microfroth.
javab0y 3 years ago
the easiest and the cheapest way is to block one of the holes from inside with a toothpick.
baconmeister 3 years ago
Otherwise you can get proper tips with smaller holes from Chris coffee in the US, I think it was the NEW 2 holes Isomac tip, you'll also need to get the 8mm to 10mm female to male converter
baconmeister 3 years ago 2
i finally got a Giotto, can I ask what part your talking about? for the steam wand?
thanks.
panhead88 2 years ago
I can't post weblink in the comment section. It's from Chirs coffee in the US. The parts you want are the "New" Isomac 2 Hole Steam Tip and Adaptor converts 8 mm female to 10 mm male, should be pretty easy to find. But do remember it will take twice to three times as long to steam the same amount of milk.
baconmeister 2 years ago
Cool! thanks for the video :)
s10224 3 years ago