I consider myself to be a conservative and live in Australia, we have a national health care system where everyone is taxed 1.5% of their salary. Most who are on higher salaries also have private health cover but still pay the additional 1.5% tax levy. It seems to work OK but in the past 15 years or so there has been a greater push by government encouraging people to take up private health care due to the strain on the system and the rising cost of public health care due to aging pop'n etc.
Universal healthcare is another way to tax the American freedom. Noone should be forced to support a lazy bumb whore on the street who will not support himself or even attempt to work and pay taxes like good Americans. Democrats act as if their sympathic to the poor bastard sleeping on the sidewalk with no healthcare, but actually they prefer he stay right there to promote socialism and communism in this country. Ultimately they seek to destroy religious freedom, thats always been the target
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Absolute crap. A universal health care system is the basis of a civilized society. We have it in Europe but would you say us members of NATO are Marxists?
This is typical American hypocrisy crap. You preach Christianity but don't practice it; "Am I not my brother's keeper?" 45 million Americans are unable to afford health insurance. Wait until you lose your job, can't afford insurance and your kid has a ruptured appendix or gets injured by a hit-and-run driver. What of your selfish greed then?
Although universal healthcare is a socialist concept, it is not practiced only by socialist societies. Britain is not socialist, neither is France, Germany, Denmark, etc. Nazi Germany spent lots of money on cancer research, so does that mean any other country that does the same is Nazi? Obviously not. If something is a good concept then the intelligent thing to do is adopt it, Everyone pays taxes for a universal education system. What's the difference?
collapseofthedollar - I said something about the Nazi Party. I used it as an example of how stupid condemning a good policy is just because it's adopted by those you disagree with.
If you don't think socialized education and healthcare is a good idea, and consider it all some Marxist/socialist conspiracy, you may as well go live in the stone-age.
@CrankCase08 You make some really good points. That's why I'm an American living in Asia. The system in America is fucked because of greed and corruption. I get better health care here in Asia than I ever got in America. For people to say Obama and Hillary are socialist because they want universal health care or that we can afford is absurd. I couldn't stand the politics in the USA and that's why I left. I know one day I'll move back, but I least I know what out there unlike the sheeple there.
@fatcatbuzz It seems like I embarrassed collapseofthedollar into deleting his arguments against me.
The USA, with it's supposed Christianity and widespread church membership is full of hypocrisy. It's rather like the lyrics of 'Eve Of Destruction' by Barry Maguire: "Hate your next door neighbour, but don't forget to say Grace".
@CrankCase08 I think a lot of politic, not just in the USA, is all run by greed. Did you hear how Republican voted when it came time to give health benefits to first responder during 9/11 if they didn't get the Bush era tax cuts? The average person in America can not afford health care. Fucking crazy. I get better health care as an English teacher in Korea and China. As I Christian (I don't try and convince anyone) I know what you are saying about people who say one thing and do another.
Roosevelt, 1934: "Some people will try to give you new and strange names for what we are doing. Sometimes they will call it 'Fascism,' sometimes 'Communism,' sometimes 'Regimentation,' sometimes 'Socialism.'
But, in so doing, they are trying to make very complex and theoretical something that is really very simple and very practical. . . . Plausible self-seekers and theoretical die-hards will tell you of the loss of individual liberty. Answer this question out of the facts of your own life. Have you lost any of your rights or liberty or constitutional freedom of action and choice?"
IF YOU DON'T LIKE WHAT ROOSEVELT DID, TELL YOUR GRANDPARENTS NOT TO COLLECT SOCIAL SECURITY....maybe they will eventually go homeless....tell them not to get Medicare either.
The next "New Deal" must be within our disasterous and shameful healthcare system (as someone who is in healthcare).
The "mandate" only effects those without health insurance...nobody is making you do anything.
only 10% of Americans don't have health care. If you goto any country that has socialized health care they do not get quality health care and have to wait for surgery.
doesn't matter the world's ata new beginning we have to go through this bullshit and all the bad shit to come which is extremely bad u only see it in sci-fi movies or just turn on the news ,,i feel bad but fuck all of you that are just plain bad u know who u are just fuck you,,hard.
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you think i am communist 8data? what i am discussing is about moderate social democracy, which would be advocated by dennis kucinich. you have obviously never heard of moderate socialists, which are not marxists and that have had representation in countries like germany, sweden, great britain, norway, finland, and so on. Americans need to see the world around them and embrace a new philosophy. They need to have more than just the same old two conservative parties in Washington.
what's the republican party filled with, if the democratic party is filled with commie, socialists and marxists, fascists, religious fundamentalists, neo-cons, fiscal neo-cons, pretenders for caring about eliminating abortions, just to get elected. what i keep saying over and over again is republicans care more about staying in power than about working for working families. a living wage, universal healthcare, free college education, and public housing. those are good ideas.
If you stupid people don't notice HIlliary lives rich and like a queen fat ass. Try to get an appointment with universal healthcare. - you might as well go off to the woods bang your head off and that is your healthcare. Kill yourself as it will take shorter than going to an apptmt. Of course Hill and Bill will get the best and you stupid Americans will pay.
I have an idea why don't we just pull all our troops home from everywhere they are stationed and hand over the rest of the world to the Muslims?
I agree the Clintons will do anything to get where they want to be, that is the elite left's moral imperative, "the means justify the ends no matter how destructive." but at least we know who they are. Obama's friends disgust me and the fact that he was lying about knowing exactly what Wright, Ayres and Rezko were up to simply adds to my disgust.
Look, I understand you have no life. You roam the Internets looking for "libruls" to confront to stroke your ego. I feel sorry for you. I pity you and I can except your vile filth if it helps you get over the fact that you have no life.
I like how Hillary goes on and on about the children... but guess what, Ms. I-Stayed-With-My-Cheating-Husband-For-Power? MY children are going to be paying the outrageous taxes for your money-sucking ideas.
If they discover you haven't made the purchase, they'll go to your employer & have your wages garnished.
Let's assume further that total spending for this STATE-designed & -mandated product accounts for about a fifth of the nation's total economy.
The former Soviet Union? Communist China?
No, this is the new Hillarycare. Sen. Hillary Clinton, having once failed to explicitly nationalize the one-fifth of our economy going to health care, now wants to slip it past us by dressing it up in drag.
It's amazing to me that people just don't see the evil staring them in the face.
You may disagree with someone because of their policies, that's fine. As long as they're a straight-up American, it's just a difference in opinion. But Hillary wants to FUNDAMENTALLY CHANGE America. She's wanted to do it since she was in college.
WE DON'T WANT The "U.S. of Hillary," and we don't need it.
Vote Republican, for America's sake. Let's preserve the concepts of freedom & choice.
"Yeah, since that has worked so well these past 7 years..."
--Actually it has. Obviously you watched the video but don't really understand what the words 'I'm going to make you pay for my health care plans' means to your freedom of choice.
My tax dollars are better spent on foolish wars, bailouts for finance corporations like Bear Stearns, or any other number of wasteful and moronic decisions by the Bush Administration? Don't think so.
Freedom of choice? When you rephrase it as, "the freedom to be without health care [due to financial necessity]" it reveals itself not to be a freedom most would fight for. How about "Freedom from Want"? Now that's a concept (laid down by FDR) that Americans would probably rather have...
--Who said anything about forced sex change? I love how Leftists just make shit up.
"the idea that a Marxist would naturally vote for Hillary reveals that you know nothing on the subject"
--She's the closest thing to your Communist Party USA beliefs as far as well-known candidates. So many Marxists will vote for her, even if they're not Democrats themselves, dummy.
"She's the closest thing to your Communist Party USA beliefs as far as well-known candidates."
When did I say I was a member of CPUSA? For someone who hates people who "make shit up", you reveal yourself to be either stupid or a hypocrite. Hillary does not advocate anything an orthodox Marxist would. She is Keynesian economically and a social liberal, neither of which are Marxist. Maybe some Marxists will vote for Hillary. So what? If some racists vote for McCain, is he a racist then too?
--I guessed, but I'm sure their platform isn't too far from your own beliefs.
"She is Keynesian economically and a social liberal, neither of which are Marxist"
--Go watch the YouTube video "Hillary Clinton 2008 and Marxism. Please, vote Republican" and tell me what you think. It explains the similarities of her policies to Marxism than I can here.
It is unbelievable how stupid people are. They know nothing about how bad Marxism failed that it was responsible for 180 million deaths some by starvation and some by out and out murder.
Here we have a person being threatened with jail by our federal government for not spending money.
I consider myself to be a conservative and live in Australia, we have a national health care system where everyone is taxed 1.5% of their salary. Most who are on higher salaries also have private health cover but still pay the additional 1.5% tax levy. It seems to work OK but in the past 15 years or so there has been a greater push by government encouraging people to take up private health care due to the strain on the system and the rising cost of public health care due to aging pop'n etc.
mowwow1998 1 year ago
Heil Hitler baby.
curlybobz 1 year ago
Like I always said.Hillary is a socialist Liberal Dyke.
hendodabest 2 years ago
Universal healthcare is another way to tax the American freedom. Noone should be forced to support a lazy bumb whore on the street who will not support himself or even attempt to work and pay taxes like good Americans. Democrats act as if their sympathic to the poor bastard sleeping on the sidewalk with no healthcare, but actually they prefer he stay right there to promote socialism and communism in this country. Ultimately they seek to destroy religious freedom, thats always been the target
Spurgeon123 2 years ago
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Absolute crap. A universal health care system is the basis of a civilized society. We have it in Europe but would you say us members of NATO are Marxists?
This is typical American hypocrisy crap. You preach Christianity but don't practice it; "Am I not my brother's keeper?" 45 million Americans are unable to afford health insurance. Wait until you lose your job, can't afford insurance and your kid has a ruptured appendix or gets injured by a hit-and-run driver. What of your selfish greed then?
CrankCase08 3 years ago
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collapseofthedollar 2 years ago
Although universal healthcare is a socialist concept, it is not practiced only by socialist societies. Britain is not socialist, neither is France, Germany, Denmark, etc. Nazi Germany spent lots of money on cancer research, so does that mean any other country that does the same is Nazi? Obviously not. If something is a good concept then the intelligent thing to do is adopt it, Everyone pays taxes for a universal education system. What's the difference?
CrankCase08 2 years ago
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collapseofthedollar 2 years ago
collapseofthedollar - I said something about the Nazi Party. I used it as an example of how stupid condemning a good policy is just because it's adopted by those you disagree with.
If you don't think socialized education and healthcare is a good idea, and consider it all some Marxist/socialist conspiracy, you may as well go live in the stone-age.
CrankCase08 2 years ago
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collapseofthedollar 2 years ago
@CrankCase08 You make some really good points. That's why I'm an American living in Asia. The system in America is fucked because of greed and corruption. I get better health care here in Asia than I ever got in America. For people to say Obama and Hillary are socialist because they want universal health care or that we can afford is absurd. I couldn't stand the politics in the USA and that's why I left. I know one day I'll move back, but I least I know what out there unlike the sheeple there.
fatcatbuzz 1 year ago
@fatcatbuzz It seems like I embarrassed collapseofthedollar into deleting his arguments against me.
The USA, with it's supposed Christianity and widespread church membership is full of hypocrisy. It's rather like the lyrics of 'Eve Of Destruction' by Barry Maguire: "Hate your next door neighbour, but don't forget to say Grace".
CrankCase08 1 year ago
@CrankCase08 I think a lot of politic, not just in the USA, is all run by greed. Did you hear how Republican voted when it came time to give health benefits to first responder during 9/11 if they didn't get the Bush era tax cuts? The average person in America can not afford health care. Fucking crazy. I get better health care as an English teacher in Korea and China. As I Christian (I don't try and convince anyone) I know what you are saying about people who say one thing and do another.
fatcatbuzz 1 year ago
take their money mrs.Hillary,they have enough of it,sons of bitches!
HomoLibero 3 years ago
Roosevelt, 1934: "Some people will try to give you new and strange names for what we are doing. Sometimes they will call it 'Fascism,' sometimes 'Communism,' sometimes 'Regimentation,' sometimes 'Socialism.'
2025DPlaza 3 years ago
But, in so doing, they are trying to make very complex and theoretical something that is really very simple and very practical. . . . Plausible self-seekers and theoretical die-hards will tell you of the loss of individual liberty. Answer this question out of the facts of your own life. Have you lost any of your rights or liberty or constitutional freedom of action and choice?"
2025DPlaza 3 years ago
IF YOU DON'T LIKE WHAT ROOSEVELT DID, TELL YOUR GRANDPARENTS NOT TO COLLECT SOCIAL SECURITY....maybe they will eventually go homeless....tell them not to get Medicare either.
The next "New Deal" must be within our disasterous and shameful healthcare system (as someone who is in healthcare).
The "mandate" only effects those without health insurance...nobody is making you do anything.
2025DPlaza 3 years ago
only 10% of Americans don't have health care. If you goto any country that has socialized health care they do not get quality health care and have to wait for surgery.
jmfcg5 3 years ago
doesn't matter the world's ata new beginning we have to go through this bullshit and all the bad shit to come which is extremely bad u only see it in sci-fi movies or just turn on the news ,,i feel bad but fuck all of you that are just plain bad u know who u are just fuck you,,hard.
papertigerlove00 3 years ago
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you think i am communist 8data? what i am discussing is about moderate social democracy, which would be advocated by dennis kucinich. you have obviously never heard of moderate socialists, which are not marxists and that have had representation in countries like germany, sweden, great britain, norway, finland, and so on. Americans need to see the world around them and embrace a new philosophy. They need to have more than just the same old two conservative parties in Washington.
melissa4444444 3 years ago
Hillary 08.
Wrathultima 3 years ago
madam mao
8data 3 years ago
what's the republican party filled with, if the democratic party is filled with commie, socialists and marxists, fascists, religious fundamentalists, neo-cons, fiscal neo-cons, pretenders for caring about eliminating abortions, just to get elected. what i keep saying over and over again is republicans care more about staying in power than about working for working families. a living wage, universal healthcare, free college education, and public housing. those are good ideas.
melissa4444444 3 years ago
I am a marxist so I can tell you all Hillary is NOT one.
NuttyWithPower 3 years ago
Well the nuts on your channel are perfect for your dumb ass that is for sure!
MaXG65 3 years ago
Universal healthcare- average hard working person KILL YOURSELF - Mexican illegal ignorant - the best on taxpayer money.
paz1026 3 years ago
If you stupid people don't notice HIlliary lives rich and like a queen fat ass. Try to get an appointment with universal healthcare. - you might as well go off to the woods bang your head off and that is your healthcare. Kill yourself as it will take shorter than going to an apptmt. Of course Hill and Bill will get the best and you stupid Americans will pay.
paz1026 3 years ago
The Clinton's are lying, extra marital affair having, and warmonger scumbags!
Talk about the lowest of low; she threatened to Nuke Iran into oblivion (71 million people) for a few moronic Pennsylvanian votes?
Hopefully the voters in Indiana and North Carolina are too smart to fall for it!
Words and actions do have consequences; she's all done!
Former DNC Chairman Joe Andrew Switches to Obama (from Clinton). He got tired of the lies. Let the floodgates open!
pauljason75 3 years ago
I have an idea why don't we just pull all our troops home from everywhere they are stationed and hand over the rest of the world to the Muslims?
I agree the Clintons will do anything to get where they want to be, that is the elite left's moral imperative, "the means justify the ends no matter how destructive." but at least we know who they are. Obama's friends disgust me and the fact that he was lying about knowing exactly what Wright, Ayres and Rezko were up to simply adds to my disgust.
Obamamania 3 years ago
Maybe every American citizen should morph in to a corporation and then the Republican Party will answer their every beck and call.
michigan83guerrilla 3 years ago
How many citizens work for corporations? How many entrepreneurs are incorporated/ What would you do without corporations?
You are a moron.
Because we have fined tuned free market capitalism, the Republican Party has been the most compassionate political party the world has ever known.
As opposed to the Democrat Party that has been moving further and further toward the Marxist economic modal of misery.
How many slaves have we freed?
How many abortions have you enabled?
Don't get me started..
Obamamania 3 years ago
Look, I understand you have no life. You roam the Internets looking for "libruls" to confront to stroke your ego. I feel sorry for you. I pity you and I can except your vile filth if it helps you get over the fact that you have no life.
michigan83guerrilla 3 years ago
The entire democ_rat party and the left is filled with Commies socialists and Marxists!
I've always thought of swillary as kind of a hybrid between a Marxist and a Fascist! She can fit the bill for both!
MaXG65 3 years ago
It's all about doing the right things instead of doing things right!!!
Go Barack Obama go... he is the right man for that job!!!
cosmopolite67 3 years ago
I like how Hillary goes on and on about the children... but guess what, Ms. I-Stayed-With-My-Cheating-Husband-For-Power? MY children are going to be paying the outrageous taxes for your money-sucking ideas.
insomniabelow 3 years ago
well at least isnt going to tax the shit out of us in my opinion obama and hillary are both fucked in the head
mootallica 3 years ago
Hillary or Obama is what the USA needs. Someone Leftist.
bacabu30 3 years ago
If they discover you haven't made the purchase, they'll go to your employer & have your wages garnished.
Let's assume further that total spending for this STATE-designed & -mandated product accounts for about a fifth of the nation's total economy.
The former Soviet Union? Communist China?
No, this is the new Hillarycare. Sen. Hillary Clinton, having once failed to explicitly nationalize the one-fifth of our economy going to health care, now wants to slip it past us by dressing it up in drag.
IamLiberty 4 years ago 5
It's amazing to me that people just don't see the evil staring them in the face.
You may disagree with someone because of their policies, that's fine. As long as they're a straight-up American, it's just a difference in opinion. But Hillary wants to FUNDAMENTALLY CHANGE America. She's wanted to do it since she was in college.
WE DON'T WANT The "U.S. of Hillary," and we don't need it.
Vote Republican, for America's sake. Let's preserve the concepts of freedom & choice.
NoGuff 4 years ago
"Vote Republican, for America's sake. Let's preserve the concepts of freedom & choice."
Yeah, since that has worked so well these past 7 years...
BrezhnevIsMyCoPilot 3 years ago
"Yeah, since that has worked so well these past 7 years..."
--Actually it has. Obviously you watched the video but don't really understand what the words 'I'm going to make you pay for my health care plans' means to your freedom of choice.
NoGuff 3 years ago
My tax dollars are better spent on foolish wars, bailouts for finance corporations like Bear Stearns, or any other number of wasteful and moronic decisions by the Bush Administration? Don't think so.
Freedom of choice? When you rephrase it as, "the freedom to be without health care [due to financial necessity]" it reveals itself not to be a freedom most would fight for. How about "Freedom from Want"? Now that's a concept (laid down by FDR) that Americans would probably rather have...
BrezhnevIsMyCoPilot 3 years ago
You're a Marxist. Go vote for Hillary.
By the way, you'll have to check your dick at the polling station door.
NoGuff 3 years ago
Forced sex change surgery sounds like big government to me, funny you should advocate that...
(p.s. the idea that a Marxist would naturally vote for Hillary reveals that you know nothing on the subject--pretty entertaining, though)
BrezhnevIsMyCoPilot 3 years ago
"Forced sex change"
--Who said anything about forced sex change? I love how Leftists just make shit up.
"the idea that a Marxist would naturally vote for Hillary reveals that you know nothing on the subject"
--She's the closest thing to your Communist Party USA beliefs as far as well-known candidates. So many Marxists will vote for her, even if they're not Democrats themselves, dummy.
NoGuff 3 years ago
Removing the male genitalia, or "checking your dick at the polling station door", sounds like a sex change to me, or at least a neutering.
And they say Marxists are dour and humorless--you need to get a sense of humor.
BrezhnevIsMyCoPilot 3 years ago
"Removing the male genitalia, or "checking your dick at the polling station door", sounds like a sex change to me, or at least a neutering."
--Therefore......
"And they say Marxists are dour and humorless"
--No, we just say they're stupid and hyptocritical.
NoGuff 3 years ago
"She's the closest thing to your Communist Party USA beliefs as far as well-known candidates."
When did I say I was a member of CPUSA? For someone who hates people who "make shit up", you reveal yourself to be either stupid or a hypocrite. Hillary does not advocate anything an orthodox Marxist would. She is Keynesian economically and a social liberal, neither of which are Marxist. Maybe some Marxists will vote for Hillary. So what? If some racists vote for McCain, is he a racist then too?
BrezhnevIsMyCoPilot 3 years ago
"When did I say I was a member of CPUSA?"
--I guessed, but I'm sure their platform isn't too far from your own beliefs.
"She is Keynesian economically and a social liberal, neither of which are Marxist"
--Go watch the YouTube video "Hillary Clinton 2008 and Marxism. Please, vote Republican" and tell me what you think. It explains the similarities of her policies to Marxism than I can here.
NoGuff 3 years ago
Do you have any idea what Marxism is? Do you know that Hillary Clinton use to work for the Communist in California?
You you have any idea what it means to garnish your wages?
HitleryClinton 4 years ago
Hillary is not a Marxist you idiot. She just believes in giving breaks to the common man rather than the corperate fat-cats.
HeWitch2112 3 years ago
"Hillary is not a Marxist you idiot. She just believes in giving breaks to the common man rather than the corperate fat-cats."
--You're a Marxist, too.
NoGuff 3 years ago
i'm scared. have anyone you played halflife 2? if she wins the election, the United Stats of America will become 'City 17'
MothraSky 4 years ago 3
The new Dr. Breen except more scary... lol
awells88 3 years ago
oh i totally wanted to fight dr. breen... thought i'd get to. on episode 3 i'll finish him!
MothraSky 3 years ago
ENFORCEMENT?!?!
Not good...
anonymouspunk2 4 years ago
It is unbelievable how stupid people are. They know nothing about how bad Marxism failed that it was responsible for 180 million deaths some by starvation and some by out and out murder.
Here we have a person being threatened with jail by our federal government for not spending money.
HitleryClinton 4 years ago
She just said she will force you to buy government health ins. Force you... I hope you are being sarcastic.
The last thing we need. Is the government finding another way to tax, or reason to send people to jail.
Papachair 4 years ago