Morning Joe - Pat Buchanan to John Ziegler:which media outlets were biased?

[LizzyxDarcy]

Notice they won't allow John to answer Pat's question... why do you think that was?

[beecee151]

@LizzyxDarcy He is not a journalist. He is a political analyst. He got caught off the cuff and asked a question that he would ask to himself. In other words everyone knew Buchanan knew the answers and just blurted out something pre commercial. I wish he would get off that show but with him and Joe there it's much watch TV. In other words it was like pat asking himself a question in the mirror. He tends to ask questions he wants to answer. NBC keeps pushin him into a role he dsnt lke

[veriteez]

Who are the culprits? Really? I think we can agree that MSNBC, CNN, ABC,CBS,NBC, NPR, NEW YORK TIMES ETC. influenced people's decision-making and unfortunately helped to hypnotize the many sheep who fell for Obama's crap.

[exsinor]

@veriteez No, we can not agree

[veriteez]

@exsinor - Great counter-point............denia­l. You're in denial. 

[exsinor]

@veriteez not denial at all. You said "I think we can agree.............." amd I said we can't agree on your point. Despite the promotion of McCain/Palin by Fox News and conservative talk radio,the American people decided that they couldn't take the chance that Ms Palin could become President. She shot herself in the foot, which was usually in her mouth. John Ziegler is a self promoting, money grubber. He could care less otherwise. Sarah is in danger of becoming the same.

[veriteez]

@exsinor - You just showed why I believe you're in denial. NOt mentioning msnbc, cnn, abc, cbs, etc. just shows your biasness. If these stations had done their job and been objective towards interviewing Obama, people would have been more resistant to voting for him. They never asked him any tough questions. You know this. He was treated as a God. You're comments are irrelevant. Majority of people are conservative or no party. Obama won because Mccain was not the best choice for conservs.

[exsinor]

@veriteez Why would I mention them, you already did and why did you not mention conservative talk radio and Fox News. You have already agreed with me that " Obama won because McCain was not the best choice for conservatives",I and have to wonder why the "best conservative" was not the nominee. This was an election decided by the people, and they picked the lesser of two evils. Sadly, that is all too common in the political scene today. The media is not to blame. Blame Repubs nominee.

[DaHonestAbe]

Hey John, learn how the president is really picked buddy. And save your stupid ass documentary for non thinking individuals.

[sps242]

John Ziegler IS SPOT ON and there is no doubt about it.Palin was indeed targeted and the media(cnn,msnbc,abc,cbs,nbc) WERE absolutely in the tank for Obama..that's a given.To deny that is to be dillusional. Many responses on this forum about this video clip are very immature and irrresponsible which is indictaive of leftwingers in most cases.(not seeing the forest for the trees)

Sarah Palin is a great American and will be president Jan. 20, 2013.

[hotram1]

@sps242 Sorry but you are obviously delusional! You don't even know the correct spelling of the word, that's pathetic!

[sibais]

@sps242 lol u seriously want palin as your president?

God some ppl are stupid! I'm in shock that there are ppl that take that woman seriously...

[exsinor]

@sps242 She put the target on herself

[MrEatonbeaver]

Oh, fuck no. It's not Sarah's fault that she is a category 5 moron. Blame the media for her stupidity and intellectual apathy. Typical neocon. I never reviewed any media coverage, in print, or on air, that drew down on her because she was a woman pro-lifer. It always went to the fact that she does not know shit from Shinola.

[Be1smaht]

I love how they are ALL laughing at Ziegler... he is the joke. Even pat thinks he's funny and foolish

[DaHonestAbe]

John is such an off putting fool. The problems in the media are far worse than he makes it. And he's such a baby about Palin. If folks learn about the national security state, they'd know how presidents really get elected.

P.S- ALL CABLE NEWS SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!

[meteorpinball72]

Joe's commentary about the media and Palin is quite possibly the dumbest bit of commentary in history. Except, or course, everytime Palin opens her mouth.

[parkerlane13]

funny. they are laughing because they all know MSNBC was in the tank for obama, you cant even deny it. its rather pathetic

[ctwriter]

It's complete bullshit that anyone opposes Palin because she's against abortion. The reason people despise her is because she's a demagogue, which means she's a liar and a divisive troublemaker so she can push her own agenda to gain power. People also oppose her because she wants to put her religious beliefs into our laws.

Ziegler is deranged, Buchanan is a well-known racist, liar, and an anti-Semite. Even William F. Buckley Jr. once wrote an article calling Buchanan an anti-Semite.

[082550]

@ctwriter and you are not a demagogue...are you kidding me. Look the word up in the dictionary...if you don't have one just go to Wikipedia for the answer. You guys hurl insults and commentary without ever understanding anything you say. Bucahanan is a racist...go find out who his running mate was in one of the presidential campaign. You god damned people need to educate yourselves before we allow you to open your mouths. It is because of ignorance like yours that we have fallen in a shit hole.

[Amfotog87]

Every single interview he does he constantly plugs his documentary. Who's the media slut now John?

[dswett16]

thats not ziegler. That's anyone on tv trying to get people watch their movie

[parkerlane13]

The whole point people have him on shows is in order to plug the documentary, the hosts and networks knows that. thats the whole point

[nilofc]

@Amfotog87 John is brilliant. The media slut is someone who drinks the kool aid Obama gives them.

[Sweepersucksballs]

@nilofc=YOUR THE SLUT BITCH!

[ArtemousJimmy]

What I gather from everyones response to pat's question, that there are certain topics and questions that are a No-No in News. Scary.

[TheNewMusicNetwork]

quit suckin PMS-nbc dick pat

[KaraLarson26]

Mika is extremely hot in this clip. Love the way her shirt is open showing her top part. Just wish it was open a little more exposing a bit more.

[MJH505060]

Once Palin disappears into obscurity, we won't have to see this media whore anymore. Enjoy your 15 minutes of fame Johnny it'll be the high point of your pathetic exsistance.

[ignisacimpetus]

well said my friend.

[scully2222]

mika needs her vodka after that lol

[taniavz]

Pat is hilarious!!

[lmswentzeljr]

Palin didn't do a good in interviews with gibson, and couric, she was divisive her Real America comment offended at least 50% of the country. If you look electorally its hard seeing her get 270 Electoral votes, she only appals in rural white areas, The fact that Obama only won 46 out of 410 counties in Appalachia i think had a lot to do with palin, thats her strong suit. But white educated moderate voters not her strength, She 'll do well in the South and thats it.

[qwertyman129]

For more evidence regarding the classiness of Mr. Ziegler, check out his recent appearance and blatant misogyny on a dating show, available if you search here on youtube for "ziegler dating show."

Interesting that Ziegler would defend Palin so much while subsequently saying that rationality in a woman is an oxymoron.

[DBZO12]

Morning Joe is msnbc's last balanced program. Now watch all the lib haters pounce on that one

[roostertrigger]

JOHN ZIEGLER is 100% CORRECT...

[DoctorRobertBobby]

yeah, he's terrified of chris "thrill up my leg" matthews!!!!!!

[freewebjunk]

I strongly disagree with John Ziegler that the media had a "bias" for Barack Obama. Barack Obama didn't run a campaign that only attacked the opposition's character. The republican party did, and the media called them out on it. Traditionally media has always given opposing arguments or candidates equal footing no matter what, but responsible journalism is getting to the truth. It isn't giving side A as much time as side B when side A says its raining, and it's not raining.

[roostertrigger]

shining side A and shining side B should be your only objective ....DO THE JOB CORRECTLY NEXT TIME...no mimimum wage for you. SHINE CORRECTLY!

[bennett1200]

if you are talking about Ziegler you need to search him on you tube he owns Nora O'Donnell& contessa brewer and john shusler he is a nightmare for liberals

[roostertrigger]

WHY DID THEY NOT LET Zeigler answer the question? BUCHANON WAS RIGHT...

those 2 idiot MSNBC reporters WE CAUGHT..CAUGHT......GUILTY!!!

''whats wrong with you pat?"" WRONG....GREAT QUESTION PAT!!

[mtosideline]

Why does Ziegler insist upon defending Palin with regard to her interviews? Does he not understand that the interviews are designed so that ppl do not have to go to this website or that documentary for info about the 'subject'? It's not okay. If Palin agrees to an interview, she should be able to answer questions as they come. No one should be referring the public to an alternate source for answers. Ziegler should stop. He's showing himself to be an idiot.

[roostertrigger]

YOU are the idiot...Zeigler is CORRECT. Joe is an idiot tooo..

[mtosideline]

No idiot, assuming YOU can read, you would understand why I said this.  If asked a question and the response given is poor, then that's just what it is. No need to re-direct the attn to what was "meant." And the fact that he's boisterous about it doesn't help. Just makes him appear to lose ground and must therefore raise his voice. From Webster's: Idiot=a foolish or stupid person. Now IDIOT, if you cannot understand my position, politely go away or at least provide a response that makes sense.

[mtosideline]

...hey idiot, see freewebjunk's post. You might be enlightened!

[roostertrigger]

hey scums.....your CODE PINK Magazine subscription just ran out.

freewebjunk shines shoes for a living....enlightened?

[mtosideline]

Just as I suspected. No substance at all. Anyhow, given your response I think it's best that we agree to disagree. WRT freewebjunk shining shoes, that may be. But you know what, it's a living. Looks like your only fit to hurl out insults.

[ctcole77]

Hey mtosideline,

MSNBC is hiring now.............

Why don't you go work with Shuster and all the other "independents" at MSObama.

[mtosideline]

I've been following Ziegler and his poor responses to several interview questions (usually way off topic), not to mention the poor excuses he provides on behalf of Palin (she is just not up to par WRT interviews). So...because I am less than impressed w/ him, I should "go work with Shuster..." Give me a break. He believes MSNBC is Pro-Obama. That's his opinion, I could care less. ctcole77, instead of giving irrelevant advice, why don't you stop following the leader and try to keep up next time.

[ctcole77]

Wow, it seems EVERYONE on this page agrees with you and you've made soooo many friends.

Oh here it comes.............you're an independent thinker who doesn't follow the pack.

Yeah right.

ROFL!

You''ll follow MSObama into hell if he told you.

[mtosideline]

Hmm wasn't aware of who all on this page agreed/disagreed with me. My response to you was warranted by advice to work at MSNBC. WTH are you talking about? You're about as random as they come. And who told you I "followed" anyone? Assumptions assumptions. So b/c I disagree w/ Ziegler's comments wrt how the media treated Palin, I must be an Obama supporter? Never once said that. Typical repub thinking so I'm loving the irony of your sarcastic dig. You should stop laughing now.

[ctcole77]

MSObama. It's a fact sherlock.

Ask Hillary Clinton if it's MSObama.

Ask Pennsylvania Gov. Ed Rendell if it's MSObama.

Why did Chris Matthews & Keith Liberalman get removed from election coverage?

A female ISN'T offended when called a slut?

You're soooo bias & blind you're probably a 911 truther.

"Cut his mic". Now we now where MSObama stands on free speech.

Keep drinking that MSObama kool aid on your way to the Karl Marx sheeple pen.

[docisais]

it is idiodicy conservatives vs the rest of us?? seriously, If your not as stupid as this hack on the show and the rest of these news crew, then you should be ok... believe me.

[bigbuirk]

the media has no problem attacking , but they freak wen they get even the slightest critisism

[IamSpicoli44]

john ziegler rocks. if you honestly dont think that media plays into many choices that americans make.... your off the grid

[Tone2369111]

we lost because of the media

waaaaawaaaaaaaaawaaaaaaaaaa

grab a tissue you cry babies

[deceptikan]

here's a secret..........Fox News is the mainstream media too......And yes they are biased.

[Nubianglobal]

john ziegleer is a profound racist. go to his little ku klux klan website.

[Nubianglobal]

this john ziegler is a piece of poop. he is on drugs. he got arrest last money. they should have tazed his ass

[roostertrigger]

you are a piece of corn in HIS POOP..remember that..OBAMMAMA RUMPSWAB YOU!!

[johnnondrowsyd]

wait, so she really wasn't a know nothing? it was all just he media? give me a break. no one can make you look that stupid and un knowledgeable but YOURSELF.

[kevkevinkev]

She's not Pro-Life, she's Anti-Choice.

[KTMARCH12]

They as much as proved their bias not leeing the question be answered.

[deceptikan]

The man has said his opinion on 4 other MSNBC Run interviews, two with David Shuester. This guy has had his say, he insults the station then goes on it to promote his documentary. His 15 minutes are done.

[indianapolitics]

There's nothing quite like the McCain ticket whining about poor treatment at the hands of the media - when McCain has been a media whore for the whole of his existence in congress.

Poor little Sarah Palin...bring your big-girl britches to the table next election season...

[Manx36]

Wow you can show a Republican a video of Palin praying to god that the war is his work but they still don't get it.God should have no place in taking sides in any wars if you truely believe that all men are gods children.This is the idiocy of people who support people like Palin and her hypocrisy.America suffered through the Bush administration and the Republicans learned nothing from the the pink slip they got in the last election.

[crazye78]

you are a moron, she wasnt saying a prayer but trying to inspire soldiers about to deploy that God was guiding them through what they are about to embark on. I guess some people only hear what they want to. If you have read the bible you will see that god does in fact take sides in conflict.

[Manx36]

I'm sorry you are obviously a religous person aned therefore by definition...nuts,and I don't speak nuts so I can't relate to you on any level.I suppose if I did believe in magic I could then understand how anyone would ever think that Sarah Palin was suitable to be vice president.I'd watch who I was calling a moron because I'm not the one who believes everything in the old book of Jewish fairy tales...newb.

[crazye78]

Holy crap are you calling me a newb? That is awesome...im just going to leave it at that. I am laughing so hard right now i can barely type.  Get out of your moms basement. Or wait never mind go ahead and stay in there.

[Manx36]

that was it?That's your best?You should stick to believing in the tooth fairy or god or maybe even unicorns because those are things you might have some actual knowledge of.You should leave the big guy talk to,well anyone who doesn't pray to imaginary people.

[maxime32]

Mika is a moron and does anybody know how Zbig Brzezinski apparently implanted her on national TV?

[goodinohio]

Pats question.

MSNBC

[rightwing65]

Anybody with an IQ higher than single digits knows the media was in the tank for the Apprentice.....

[MustangManiac1115]

The media had the biggest part in the election of Barack Obama. They touted his rhetoric and spewed it at us constantly. As for Palin, she destroyed herself. She is truly a complete dumbass. Neither party is worth respecting. They are both full of insane nutcases who have no cares at all, except to make themselves look good.

[sentencing]

that seriously has to be the funniest clip of the media I have ever heard!!

[lmswentzeljr]

its funny katie Couric asked Gov. palin what she read? How the hell difficult is that? I agree the media was total for then Sen. obama. However they also lost because John Mccain did not have a coherent message and the fact that the GOP is pretty much popular only popular among White Southeren Christians. If the GOP wants to win it better get a Northeast and West Coast and Midwest straetgy. otherwise we will just call it the WSC Party White Southern Christian Party.

[xdir]

The media were 51% 49% for McCain until Palin came on the scene. Until then McCain's strongest argument was Obama's lack of experience - by selecting Palin he shot himself in the foot, Palin's limited experience plus her poor showing on every single interview just dug the hole deeper. the Media cannot be blamed for Palin's lack of Washington savvy, McCain's campaingn should have realised Palin's weakness during vetting and crammed her their policies before bringing her out..

[mrscorie]

AMEN TO YOUR COMMENT! The media can not be blamed for her cluelessness on international and national issues. And her cluelessness had nothing to do with Obama. If President Obama had answered questions like Gov. Palin, they would have laughed him off of the campaign trail before the first primary election. Media or no Media.

[LaneganMan1]

Best political show on television.

[jplumads]

It was more than bias. The inteviewers were completely hostile towards her. Any human responds to that hostility.

[gop19136]

Scarborough pussies out and is afraid to take on his bosses and co-workers(Matthews/oLberass/M­addow) and had Mikas clueless old man on weekly giving Obama endorsements. Palin being an idiot and underserving of VP still didn't excuse her treatment or the Obama lovefest at MSNBC. I guess the talk of public office is out for Joe a(nd Matthews, who'd get thumped anyway) and has officially sold his soul to the MSNBC devil.

[NEPatriot]

Jim, you used to work at WFSB 3 back in the day. Ever meet up with Mika? To be honest, she wasn't that good a reporter at 3. Only reason she is where she is---OLD MAN WORKED FOR CARTER! Need I say more??

[jplumads]

Couldn't agree with you more, Strongtuit. When the disgusting pinko libs label someone "Christian Fundie," they go for the jugular. The "Democrats" of today don't display any characteristics of freedom-loving Westerners.

[reevaluate2008]

The media elected Barry Soetoro.