Hey Nice vIdeo.....To all ignorant buffs here.........These guys are singing in Farsi(Persian) which is the National Language of Iran(Persia).........The guys are Irani's NOT Parsees.......
Parses came from Iran and settled in India 1200 yrs ago during the Islamic expansion.........
These guys are Iranian Muslims whose ancestors have settled in Mumbai, Pune etc. during the last 100-150yrs.........Hope you twatts get this.....
Iv been to Iran, trust me iranians dont look indian and neither do they speak hindi and completely different genetic makeup, so indians stop you fantasing, your not Persian your just indian
these guys are even singing in Arabic how can be Persian , and Persians are not mixed with Indian they got mixed with Arab after Islam , when Arabs Attacked Persia and raped our women and made kids like today Ahmadinejad
shut a fuck up these are no Persian,they are Arabs,they even have Arabic accent with Arabic names ,I am Persian I can clearly tell , like if you an original English speaker cant you notice if someone has an accent or not !!!! I am Persian and I am white with bright green eye and I dont talk like they do , we do have ppl in Iran look like that in south but there are not Persian there are Arab from the City called Ahvaz its even an Arabic name its in south west of Iran where the oil companies are
They look like a mix between Iranians and Northern Indians. Also India is a hot climate so their skin color after many decades slowly start to darken. And natural selection reacts to the climate in India imprinting their DNA to produce darker skin.
@PersianAfghani India isn´t much hotter than some places of Iran. This makes sense if we go by drastic climatic differences like Iran and Germany than obviously it would have some effect on the skin color. It is obviously and also known that the Parsis and other Iranians have mixed with Indians there. the first two guys on the video still could pass as Iranians and no one would recognize them.
some of you fucks do not realize this is indiaaaa and india is a multi cultural country
you must realize there quite a populations of Iranians in mumbai. You Iranian fucs sit back home in iran make easy comments but when you reach India.you say Aub Hawa Hindustan .Iran fuc you thats why we prefer india, So this is the write choice baby. you are still in the medivial age.it will take you fucs some years before you reach our level .dont teach us to fuc we fuck well .
The mtDNA of parsi shows they HAVE mixed with indians.
The male lineage of Parsi is Iranian, and their female lineage is Indian, indicating that early Iranian men married Indian women, but Iranian women didn't really marry Indian men. The mixing happened through Iranian males, probably because most of the early Parsi were men.
woii this is not the indo iranians we want. these are arabized recent migration. we want to know the truth about punjabi kashmiri, rajashtani,gujerati race. those ancient migration that made us look like iranians and germans.not these shits.
@IranMarzban - Hi mate.. Iranis have been in India since more than a hundred years...
The reason for the colour change... is because many Iranians here have integrated with Indians really well. They are Indians and no one treats them differently
Yes.. the are Iranians that went to India, but they should not be confused with the Parsi and Irani Zoroastrians. From their names I know they are not the Zoroastrian that went to India. India is our ancient cousin. Indo-Iranian ties are thousands of years old.
Yes you are absolutely right! My ancestors were Zoroastrians 5000 years ago who setteld in Kashmir and adopted Hinduism...While ethnically, we Kashmiri Pandits are more or less the same as the Parsis/Iranis........ culturally/religiously we have next to nothing in common anymore. Anyway, I have much respect for Persia as it has influenced my culture time and time again.
@moamin1989 thats cuz its hella hot in india and ppl get dark and their skin jacks up. thats why north indians get dark too cuz its freaking hot. not sure about these guys,are they parsi or iranians just working in india?
@moamin1989 They are not pakis they are iranis or parsis...
They have Indian blood mixed in them so the colour change..
However, many parsis are pure even today.. To keep their line pure they marry amongst their family in India.. tahts not good.. because many have disabilities because of that.
But they are lovely people and do pretty well in INdia.. No one treats them badly they are treated equally by everyone
Parsis (Zoroastrians) do NOT mix with the indians, because if they marry people outsidde of their relgiion, then they are automatically kicked out of their religion.
The Zoroastrian faith does NOT believe in conversions either...hence a Parsi/Irani is forced to marry someone from their own community, if they want to keep their religion alive.
the parsi community doesnt believe in conversion, however historical evidence shows that zoroastrianism always allowed conversion. ANd the zoroastrian. For example, armenians who are not Iranic, were zoroastrian. Even some small arab tribes had converted to zoroastrianism!! before arabs became muslims.
the zoroastrian community of Iran allows conversions, however parsis not. I think it has to do with their promise: when they came to India they promised not to spread their religion.
Yup, Parsis (atleast in India) made a promise to a hindu king in Gujrat (India) that they would never convert the locals...hence their numbers are now dwindeling in India (very sad).
My people (the Kashmrii Pandits) were Zoroastrians as well, but we adopted Hinduism and did NOT flee Persia to escape Arab invasion (ie 1 thousand yrs ago)...but we were actualy the 1st settlers of KASHMIR and adopted Hinduism 5 thousand yrs ago.
I had not heard of Arab Zoroastrians...very interesting!
yes my friend.. indeed very interesting, and it is a very strong argument for that zoroastrianism is not only for indo-Iranian peoples, but could be accepted by other nations too.
These days even some people from russia and poland have converted to zoroastrian religion.
@kashurludka Kashmiri Pandits were initial follower of vedic culture, which existed same time Zeroastrianism does, according to vedas Irani and Indians (north-west) are cousins races. Parsi people fleed from Iran during arab invasion but that happened way too late. Some scientist belive that zeroastrism became vedic culture but many says they both co-existed and gujrati zeroastrist are proof.
Well we Pandits are most likely descendents of tajek-Persians (based on our dress, average appearance etc) and the Tajeks were followers of the Zoroastrians. The Vedic culture and Zoroastrianism sprung from a common root, so I agree with what you say...
As Yemen was part under control of Persian Empire for many years, a number of Arabs converted to Zoroastrianism. There are even few ruins of Atash kadeh.
However, its also mOre interesting that the Persian troops & vessels in Yemen converted to Islam BEFORE Arabs and followed prophet Mohammad. The famous story of that Persian war leader Bazan is found in many history books.
Very interesting. Can u please elaborate on ur Sunni background. Please explain why overwhelming majority of Persians are Shia..I always thought that there were NO Sunni Persians (of course, now I stand corrected!). I wud really like to know more abt history of Sunnis/Shias in Iran. Esepcially since u mention that u are an ETHNIC Persian and NOT an Arab (I am aware that there are Iranians who are of Arab descent). I also know that Persian is ethnic term, while Iranian is geo-political.
As Yemen was under control of Persian Empire for years, a number of Arabs converted to Zoroastrianism. There are even few ruins of Atash kadeh in Yemen.
However, its also mOre interesting that the Persian troops & vessels in Yemen converted to Islam BEFORE Arabs and followed prophet Mohammad. The famous story of that Persian war leader Bazan is found in many history books.
@kashurludka - I dont totally agree with you ... because , a lot of my zoroastrian friends have married outcaste ..... especially the men who marry the women , in mumbai do not lose their rights... its mostly the women who do.. despite that there has been a lot of parsi and other community mixing .. perhaps your not aware
Ok that may be true for the women, that if they marry outside their community, they are no longer considered to be Zoroastrians. But to be honest with you, regardless, their numbers are very small now. Sad indeed.
@xxxJezebelxxx no no no, that is partly right they did mix, but infact we are from the same ancestors hence the name indo-iranian. we stem from the same ancestors who migrated from the caucus mountain then we were still the same people as in the same ethinity then the Indians and Iranians split into seperate peoples
@Kalamata77 - We Indians are pacifists.. If someone comes to live in our country, we let them integrate with us. We do not have to support Iran or anyother country for that matter.
you come to us for refuge as long as you dont harm us .. we will respect you.. thats the way our culture is
iranian people who are in India are extremely happy people Tey dont have to go thru the shit that their own country gives them.. They are treated like Indians and no one has an issue with them
Hey Nice vIdeo.....To all ignorant buffs here.........These guys are singing in Farsi(Persian) which is the National Language of Iran(Persia).........The guys are Irani's NOT Parsees.......
Parses came from Iran and settled in India 1200 yrs ago during the Islamic expansion.........
These guys are Iranian Muslims whose ancestors have settled in Mumbai, Pune etc. during the last 100-150yrs.........Hope you twatts get this.....
TheAtheisticCard 1 week ago
If iranis r so proud of their terror culture...y don't u go back to your shthole iran ? Why come populate India ? We don't need u...
kawaii28asd 1 week ago
lol, proud to be irani.. iran is good lol, that is why they have all fled to Hindu India.
these guys need a reality check.
rabin46 2 weeks ago
Iv been to Iran, trust me iranians dont look indian and neither do they speak hindi and completely different genetic makeup, so indians stop you fantasing, your not Persian your just indian
violetshadez 7 months ago
these guys are even singing in Arabic how can be Persian , and Persians are not mixed with Indian they got mixed with Arab after Islam , when Arabs Attacked Persia and raped our women and made kids like today Ahmadinejad
floranse2500able 9 months ago
shut a fuck up these are no Persian,they are Arabs,they even have Arabic accent with Arabic names ,I am Persian I can clearly tell , like if you an original English speaker cant you notice if someone has an accent or not !!!! I am Persian and I am white with bright green eye and I dont talk like they do , we do have ppl in Iran look like that in south but there are not Persian there are Arab from the City called Ahvaz its even an Arabic name its in south west of Iran where the oil companies are
floranse2500able 9 months ago
They look like a mix between Iranians and Northern Indians. Also India is a hot climate so their skin color after many decades slowly start to darken. And natural selection reacts to the climate in India imprinting their DNA to produce darker skin.
PersianAfghani 10 months ago
@PersianAfghani India isn´t much hotter than some places of Iran. This makes sense if we go by drastic climatic differences like Iran and Germany than obviously it would have some effect on the skin color. It is obviously and also known that the Parsis and other Iranians have mixed with Indians there. the first two guys on the video still could pass as Iranians and no one would recognize them.
dataman121 10 months ago
some of you fucks do not realize this is indiaaaa and india is a multi cultural country
you must realize there quite a populations of Iranians in mumbai. You Iranian fucs sit back home in iran make easy comments but when you reach India.you say Aub Hawa Hindustan .Iran fuc you thats why we prefer india, So this is the write choice baby. you are still in the medivial age.it will take you fucs some years before you reach our level .dont teach us to fuc we fuck well .
14appletree 10 months ago
all these sad assholes are into gay sex
ginost7 11 months ago
these fag aren't persian..
LibertarianPersian 1 year ago
Non of these shity ppl look iranian. and their names are fking arabic and their skin color is dark as shit.
xXMahdadXx 1 year ago
None of them look Iranian.
OhMaDayzz 1 year ago
i dont get it are these suppost to be iranians living in india?
emangoooz 1 year ago
The mtDNA of parsi shows they HAVE mixed with indians.
The male lineage of Parsi is Iranian, and their female lineage is Indian, indicating that early Iranian men married Indian women, but Iranian women didn't really marry Indian men. The mixing happened through Iranian males, probably because most of the early Parsi were men.
DNA studies shows that and its conclusive.
xxxJezebelxxx 1 year ago
woii this is not the indo iranians we want. these are arabized recent migration. we want to know the truth about punjabi kashmiri, rajashtani,gujerati race. those ancient migration that made us look like iranians and germans.not these shits.
8275989 1 year ago
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kickassdj 1 year ago
There are even Chinese in india who have integrated well ....
errolmiranda 1 year ago
since when do these people live in India? how many years ago they arrived there?
IranMarzban 1 year ago
@IranMarzban - Hi mate.. Iranis have been in India since more than a hundred years...
The reason for the colour change... is because many Iranians here have integrated with Indians really well. They are Indians and no one treats them differently
Thats how good Indians can be :)
errolmiranda 1 year ago
@errolmiranda
Yes.. the are Iranians that went to India, but they should not be confused with the Parsi and Irani Zoroastrians. From their names I know they are not the Zoroastrian that went to India. India is our ancient cousin. Indo-Iranian ties are thousands of years old.
IranMarzban 1 year ago
@IranMarzban
Yes you are absolutely right! My ancestors were Zoroastrians 5000 years ago who setteld in Kashmir and adopted Hinduism...While ethnically, we Kashmiri Pandits are more or less the same as the Parsis/Iranis........ culturally/religiously we have next to nothing in common anymore. Anyway, I have much respect for Persia as it has influenced my culture time and time again.
kashurludka 1 year ago
they look more like pakis ........
moamin1989 1 year ago
@moamin1989 thats cuz its hella hot in india and ppl get dark and their skin jacks up. thats why north indians get dark too cuz its freaking hot. not sure about these guys,are they parsi or iranians just working in india?
bebzelle 1 year ago
@moamin1989 They are not pakis they are iranis or parsis...
They have Indian blood mixed in them so the colour change..
However, many parsis are pure even today.. To keep their line pure they marry amongst their family in India.. tahts not good.. because many have disabilities because of that.
But they are lovely people and do pretty well in INdia.. No one treats them badly they are treated equally by everyone
errolmiranda 1 year ago
@errolmiranda
Parsis (Zoroastrians) do NOT mix with the indians, because if they marry people outsidde of their relgiion, then they are automatically kicked out of their religion.
The Zoroastrian faith does NOT believe in conversions either...hence a Parsi/Irani is forced to marry someone from their own community, if they want to keep their religion alive.
kashurludka 1 year ago
@kashurludka
the parsi community doesnt believe in conversion, however historical evidence shows that zoroastrianism always allowed conversion. ANd the zoroastrian. For example, armenians who are not Iranic, were zoroastrian. Even some small arab tribes had converted to zoroastrianism!! before arabs became muslims.
the zoroastrian community of Iran allows conversions, however parsis not. I think it has to do with their promise: when they came to India they promised not to spread their religion.
IranMarzban 1 year ago
@IranMarzban
Yup, Parsis (atleast in India) made a promise to a hindu king in Gujrat (India) that they would never convert the locals...hence their numbers are now dwindeling in India (very sad).
My people (the Kashmrii Pandits) were Zoroastrians as well, but we adopted Hinduism and did NOT flee Persia to escape Arab invasion (ie 1 thousand yrs ago)...but we were actualy the 1st settlers of KASHMIR and adopted Hinduism 5 thousand yrs ago.
I had not heard of Arab Zoroastrians...very interesting!
kashurludka 1 year ago
@kashurludka
yes my friend.. indeed very interesting, and it is a very strong argument for that zoroastrianism is not only for indo-Iranian peoples, but could be accepted by other nations too.
These days even some people from russia and poland have converted to zoroastrian religion.
IranMarzban 1 year ago
@IranMarzban
THANKS...You know, Avestan and Sanskrit sound very similar to the ears!!!
My people (Kashmiri Pandits) spoke in Avestan and then developed Sanskrit in kashmir valley:)
Plus, we also use the words "Gita" (as in Bhagavad Gita) and "Mantras."
The world is a lot smaller than we think:) God Bless !
kashurludka 1 year ago
@kashurludka
yes bro.. i know that all what u said :), god bless u 2 :)
IranMarzban 1 year ago
@kashurludka Kashmiri Pandits were initial follower of vedic culture, which existed same time Zeroastrianism does, according to vedas Irani and Indians (north-west) are cousins races. Parsi people fleed from Iran during arab invasion but that happened way too late. Some scientist belive that zeroastrism became vedic culture but many says they both co-existed and gujrati zeroastrist are proof.
kickassdj 1 year ago
@kickassdj
Well we Pandits are most likely descendents of tajek-Persians (based on our dress, average appearance etc) and the Tajeks were followers of the Zoroastrians. The Vedic culture and Zoroastrianism sprung from a common root, so I agree with what you say...
kashurludka 1 year ago
@kashurludka
Zoroastrian Arabs existed, in Yemen.
As Yemen was part under control of Persian Empire for many years, a number of Arabs converted to Zoroastrianism. There are even few ruins of Atash kadeh.
However, its also mOre interesting that the Persian troops & vessels in Yemen converted to Islam BEFORE Arabs and followed prophet Mohammad. The famous story of that Persian war leader Bazan is found in many history books.
I'm a Sunni Persian of Shiraz.
maa1441 1 year ago
@maa1441
Very interesting. Can u please elaborate on ur Sunni background. Please explain why overwhelming majority of Persians are Shia..I always thought that there were NO Sunni Persians (of course, now I stand corrected!). I wud really like to know more abt history of Sunnis/Shias in Iran. Esepcially since u mention that u are an ETHNIC Persian and NOT an Arab (I am aware that there are Iranians who are of Arab descent). I also know that Persian is ethnic term, while Iranian is geo-political.
kashurludka 1 year ago
@IranMarzban
Rast migi, Zoroastrian Arabs existed, in Yemen.
As Yemen was under control of Persian Empire for years, a number of Arabs converted to Zoroastrianism. There are even few ruins of Atash kadeh in Yemen.
However, its also mOre interesting that the Persian troops & vessels in Yemen converted to Islam BEFORE Arabs and followed prophet Mohammad. The famous story of that Persian war leader Bazan is found in many history books.
I'm a Sunni Persian of Shiraz =)
Dorood bar shoma
maa1441 1 year ago
@kashurludka - I dont totally agree with you ... because , a lot of my zoroastrian friends have married outcaste ..... especially the men who marry the women , in mumbai do not lose their rights... its mostly the women who do.. despite that there has been a lot of parsi and other community mixing .. perhaps your not aware
errolmiranda 1 year ago
@errolmiranda
Ok that may be true for the women, that if they marry outside their community, they are no longer considered to be Zoroastrians. But to be honest with you, regardless, their numbers are very small now. Sad indeed.
kashurludka 1 year ago
@kashurludka
DNA studies shows Parsi have mixed with Indians.
Their Y-DNA is Iranian, while their mtDNA is more Indian, showing that mixing happened because Parsi men took Indian wives.
xxxJezebelxxx 1 year ago 6
@xxxJezebelxxx Ya but u have to keep in mind that India especially Bombay is way hotter than Iran so obviously people would get darker.
MrIndoCanadian 1 year ago
@xxxJezebelxxx no no no, that is partly right they did mix, but infact we are from the same ancestors hence the name indo-iranian. we stem from the same ancestors who migrated from the caucus mountain then we were still the same people as in the same ethinity then the Indians and Iranians split into seperate peoples
ADIMM0 6 months ago
jai Hind
jai Iran
lastdropofpoison 2 years ago
.....a few of these guys could pass for iranians....but for sure a few of them are not full iranian
arfx3 2 years ago
good job reza... !!!
zabraalo 2 years ago
you Indian r very very funny ha ha ha if you like Iranian people go there and stand for Iran.. don't waste time..
Kalamata77 2 years ago
@Kalamata77 probably you should take them to ur beloved country.
indianblues77 2 years ago
@Kalamata77 - We Indians are pacifists.. If someone comes to live in our country, we let them integrate with us. We do not have to support Iran or anyother country for that matter.
you come to us for refuge as long as you dont harm us .. we will respect you.. thats the way our culture is
iranian people who are in India are extremely happy people Tey dont have to go thru the shit that their own country gives them.. They are treated like Indians and no one has an issue with them
errolmiranda 1 year ago