Great video. However when you vacuum seal your pipe it would be better to seal the bag at the opposite end to the wing nut. Even if the seal comes undone the wing nut would still have some protection.
@PsykoWaffle - durability and redundancy . . . the cache tube adds a great deal of durability over just the vacuum bag and the vacuum bag adds an extra layer of protection over just the tube. Hope that helps.
Of course on can do this many different ways . . . this is just my approach.
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@USNERDOC - I am surprised your Home Depot or Lowes doesn't carry them. Try a local commercial plumbing supply. These are very common fittings used in low pressure testing of plumbing waste, vent & drain installations before passing final inspection.
I just buried my first survival cache, but I am worried about condensation. Is that an issue if your cache is totally air tight and water proof? I have a video on my channel of exactly what I buried and what I buried it in. thanks!
this is great ! Now i can store hides & stuff in this pipe!! Great! idea! I know about Cache But never thought it comes back to modern time!!! Great!!!
Dude you used the cheapest material available, ABS is shit... Why would you mislead everyone to think this would be secure? You could break this ABS schwagg just putting it in the ground!
@Maxster42 - sounds like you need to post a video and share your expertise. I am just sharing what I do. I am well aware there are better ways to do many things.
Dude you do not have a clue; Acrylonitrile-Butadiene-Styrene ABS pipe is approved by the International Plumbing Code for direct burial. While PVC is more common these days, ABS is still used in some locations.
A "jim cap" is a rubber fitting used for sewer lines such as the ABS pipe in your project. The price is maybe $2-4 at home depot in the same location as the plug. It is fitted onto the pipe and sealed with a hose clamp. Im a plumbing contractor and have found the plugs to fail quite often. The rubber seal can shrink with cold (ground) temps and youve lost the units integrity.
A "jim" cap is a much better option than the plug, it can hold more pressure, is all rubber, water proof and can be cut away with a knife if there is need. Plugs have a tendency to break easy..the bolt is galvanised but the wing nut is not and is its weakest link. No hub jim caps are designed for water proof burial.
@jplerwill - Many thanks sir! You can count on an update video in the future with appropriate credit back at you. Thank you so much for the support and input.
@jplerwill ; Doesn't the "jim" caps have a hose clamp to fasten it to the PVC? I would imagine that would corrode pretty quickly underground. Is there another method to attach the jim cap I wonder? Maybe silicone it and use the hose clamp....?
@sheba106 the clamp is stainless steel and designed for underground use for sewers. a very high majority of homes have the coupling version of this called a no hub band connecting the home to the municipal system. I have done repair work and have seen bands 30-40 years or older under ground and still in good condition. The plugs do rust out rather quickly though, and the bow nut is usually a low quality brass or some other soft metal so it bends and breaks very easy,
@thebeastman33 - I know that . . . I was as well . . . that is the problem with the "flat" interface of text messaging . . . no worries! I appreciate your support and input.
Do you think it would work out to use an end cap with grease as a seal to cover the test plug (protect the thumbscrew)? I haven't tried it yet, but I would think that an end cap greased for sealing and then taped on would protect both ends and still be totally removable. Just a thought.
Yeah, I'm going to keep looking for that test plug. I like that idea. If they had the test plug in 3", I would have just bought the 3" ABS. That would have been fine.
I'll check another HD tomorrow. I can also try Ace Hardware. If that's a no-go, I'll go the PVC route.
Went to see if I could get a hold of the material today. Two HD's and two Lowes only had up to 3" ABS and no test plugs. They had plenty of PVC 4", so I may just use that with end caps with silicone on both sides.
You had me worried for a moment . . . ran into the other room to check pipe size. It is a 4 inch ABS pipe. Any size will do as long as it meets your storage needs.
Is there any advantage to ABS pipe over PVC? I have a PVC cache tube but am worried about the screw on end cap. I have heard that it can bind up after a while and is almost impossible to unscrew it. Thanks for sharing.
The label with contents on the outside is a good idea. OSP would think it was a bomb if you got pulled over with it in your truck. Can you just imagine the look on a Troopers face if you had a pile of those stacked up like cord wood on your passenger seat!?
Good point! I think he label is a critical consideration. I have done some Geocaching in the past (much smaller than this adventure tube) and one of the considerations discussed on some of the forums was the impression of something "bad" in a cache that was stumbled upon by a non-geaochache savvy person. Labels and clear containers were possible solutions.
Great idea for a father & son outing. I agree what boy wouldn't love digging up buried treasure. He'll remember this adventure with dad for the rest of his life.
Nice idea with the test plug. I have designed similar tubes but using a clean out fitting with a threaded plug. Please report back on you ammo tube after the six months. I will be interested to see if there was any moisture penetration.
Remember the vacuum bag is optional . . . just a sleeve to keep the tube clean facilitating reuse. If you are willing to share, I would be interested in hearing about alternative caches. Thanks for watching.
Very fun. Since you have the mother of all Vac Packers, I'm sending you all my stuff. I would recommend silica packs to suck up any remaining moisture on the inside.
Silica packs are a good idea . . . funny this is I had some on the counter after unpacking some gear. I got distracted moving forward with the vid . . . a lot skips by this old bald head ;-)
Great Idea, great vid !!! I have always wanted to dig up a cache. And I am an old lady. You say a lot skips your old bald head. LOL From a head doc to a real doc. I advise living in the same house for the rest of your life. That way, when you are old and senile you don't have to rely on your short term memory to find your way home. :) That is my plan. Good Day !!!
Eagle Eye! Thank you . . . I will make corrections and repost the PDF. I am notorious for typos . . . my weakness or forte depending on how you want to look at it!
USNERDOC, you've brought some novel ideas to the table with this project. Excellent video on a subject that may become more valuable in our near future.
I thought of that but they wouldn't fit inside the tube. My solution . . . I wrapped up four clays with some protective foam and vacuum bagged for moisture protection. They will be buried with the tube. Thanks for watching!
Great video. However when you vacuum seal your pipe it would be better to seal the bag at the opposite end to the wing nut. Even if the seal comes undone the wing nut would still have some protection.
Drdouggreen1985 1 month ago
good vid , thanks for sharin bro :)
cbr600rrturbo 4 months ago
Great video.
jasonisunavailable 4 months ago in playlist one more
If you're going to vacuum seal it, why not just bury vacuum seal the items themselves?
PsykoWaffle 5 months ago
@PsykoWaffle - durability and redundancy . . . the cache tube adds a great deal of durability over just the vacuum bag and the vacuum bag adds an extra layer of protection over just the tube. Hope that helps.
Of course on can do this many different ways . . . this is just my approach.
USNERDOC 5 months ago
what happened to the pdf i needed it badly.
magic101able 7 months ago
What are your thoughts on using a 5 gallon plastic bucket and a gamma seal lid?
clabberroach 7 months ago
GearPods Connect is a purpose-built container system designed specifically to meet the demanding needs of modern adventure and survival gear. GearPods containers are available in four lengths (from 1.5" to 6.0") and are open-ended. Each end of a container accepts either a GearPods Terminator or a GearPods Connector. Single-threaded GearPods Terminators act as end caps whereas double-threaded GearPods Connectors serve to connect two units.
warriorlion 7 months ago
where can u buy the test Plug
curtispa 7 months ago
@curtispa - Home Depot or Lowes
USNERDOC 7 months ago
@USNERDOC must b the store here dont have them i called yesterday
curtispa 7 months ago
@USNERDOC - I am surprised your Home Depot or Lowes doesn't carry them. Try a local commercial plumbing supply. These are very common fittings used in low pressure testing of plumbing waste, vent & drain installations before passing final inspection.
USNERDOC 7 months ago
thanks im going to use it for geocaching
dnave21 8 months ago
ABS is great for burying, but take care not to leave it in direct sunlight, or it will weaken and its structural integrity will be lessened greatly
starshock01 9 months ago
I just buried my first survival cache, but I am worried about condensation. Is that an issue if your cache is totally air tight and water proof? I have a video on my channel of exactly what I buried and what I buried it in. thanks!
4770589 9 months ago
this is great ! Now i can store hides & stuff in this pipe!! Great! idea! I know about Cache But never thought it comes back to modern time!!! Great!!!
maxinpains 9 months ago
Good job
Ghostginthree 9 months ago
awsone vid i was thinking of doing the samething with the ammo, but you made the idea alot better with the pvc...
huntinsober 11 months ago
you are such a cool dad!
TheSurvivalResource 11 months ago
Dude you used the cheapest material available, ABS is shit... Why would you mislead everyone to think this would be secure? You could break this ABS schwagg just putting it in the ground!
Maxster42 1 year ago
@Maxster42 - sounds like you need to post a video and share your expertise. I am just sharing what I do. I am well aware there are better ways to do many things.
USNERDOC 1 year ago 8
@Maxster42
Dude you do not have a clue; Acrylonitrile-Butadiene-Styrene ABS pipe is approved by the International Plumbing Code for direct burial. While PVC is more common these days, ABS is still used in some locations.
cbarsonfire 1 year ago 7
Very informative.....
MegaDavid0987 1 year ago
What a great, fun thing for a boy? I'm gonna give it a try for my 13yr old. Thanks for posting :)
sassylindylou 1 year ago
"and a small tube of silicone caulk" i think im immature cause that made me giggle haha
kewldudesweet 1 year ago
A "jim cap" is a rubber fitting used for sewer lines such as the ABS pipe in your project. The price is maybe $2-4 at home depot in the same location as the plug. It is fitted onto the pipe and sealed with a hose clamp. Im a plumbing contractor and have found the plugs to fail quite often. The rubber seal can shrink with cold (ground) temps and youve lost the units integrity.
jplerwill 1 year ago
A "jim" cap is a much better option than the plug, it can hold more pressure, is all rubber, water proof and can be cut away with a knife if there is need. Plugs have a tendency to break easy..the bolt is galvanised but the wing nut is not and is its weakest link. No hub jim caps are designed for water proof burial.
jplerwill 1 year ago
@jplerwill - thanks for the input! What is a "jim" cap?
USNERDOC 1 year ago
@USNERDOC jim cap : Rubber cap with a stainless steel band. Generally used on sewer clean outs.
cbarsonfire 1 year ago
@jplerwill - Many thanks sir! You can count on an update video in the future with appropriate credit back at you. Thank you so much for the support and input.
USNERDOC 1 year ago
@jplerwill ; Doesn't the "jim" caps have a hose clamp to fasten it to the PVC? I would imagine that would corrode pretty quickly underground. Is there another method to attach the jim cap I wonder? Maybe silicone it and use the hose clamp....?
sheba106 1 year ago
@sheba106 the clamp is stainless steel and designed for underground use for sewers. a very high majority of homes have the coupling version of this called a no hub band connecting the home to the municipal system. I have done repair work and have seen bands 30-40 years or older under ground and still in good condition. The plugs do rust out rather quickly though, and the bow nut is usually a low quality brass or some other soft metal so it bends and breaks very easy,
jplerwill 1 year ago
You could teach your son how to read a topo map and give him the 9 digit grid coordinate of where you hid it.
Rav3n1323 1 year ago
how lame would that be if you need to get the cache and can't cut the sealed plastic haha
thebeastman33 1 year ago
@thebeastman33 - if that were the case I think you need to reconsider your degree of preparations and your personal EDC ;-)
By the way, the bags are not that hard to open . . . even my kids can do it.
Thanks so much for watching!
USNERDOC 1 year ago
@USNERDOC i was being facetious lol xD
thebeastman33 1 year ago
@thebeastman33 - I know that . . . I was as well . . . that is the problem with the "flat" interface of text messaging . . . no worries! I appreciate your support and input.
USNERDOC 1 year ago
nice video
BIGBROTHERSUX 1 year ago
Teaching your son to be survival minded. I'm going to plan a similar project for my boys. Thanks Doc~ 5/5
sootch00 1 year ago
Wow, what a great idea. Thanks for sharing it.
Bonstergirl 1 year ago
I can answer my own question: Yes, it works, but those 4" end caps are pricey. I'll stick to thick plastic and gorilla tape. :)
Not surprisingly, I've had to visit 2 Home Depot's and a Lowe's got get the parts to build 4. I think lots of people in my area have see this vid!
madkoadr 2 years ago 2
Thanks for another great vid!
Do you think it would work out to use an end cap with grease as a seal to cover the test plug (protect the thumbscrew)? I haven't tried it yet, but I would think that an end cap greased for sealing and then taped on would protect both ends and still be totally removable. Just a thought.
I'll be hitting Lowe's this weekend. :)
madkoadr 2 years ago
LOL,,, if I have to use my cache,, local laws will not exist!
tecnolover2642 2 years ago
Love this idea Doc! It has spurred my creative mind. This has a ton of great uses. Thanks and keep up the great work.
jbennett9193 2 years ago
LOL, sorry.
Yeah, I'm going to keep looking for that test plug. I like that idea. If they had the test plug in 3", I would have just bought the 3" ABS. That would have been fine.
I'll check another HD tomorrow. I can also try Ace Hardware. If that's a no-go, I'll go the PVC route.
sheba106 2 years ago
I like your determination! Keep us posted on your progress.
USNERDOC 2 years ago
Went to see if I could get a hold of the material today. Two HD's and two Lowes only had up to 3" ABS and no test plugs. They had plenty of PVC 4", so I may just use that with end caps with silicone on both sides.
sheba106 2 years ago
You had me worried for a moment . . . ran into the other room to check pipe size. It is a 4 inch ABS pipe. Any size will do as long as it meets your storage needs.
USNERDOC 2 years ago
Is there any advantage to ABS pipe over PVC? I have a PVC cache tube but am worried about the screw on end cap. I have heard that it can bind up after a while and is almost impossible to unscrew it. Thanks for sharing.
dwightinutah 2 years ago
Either one is fine. I chose the test plug method because I have struggled with a screw on waste cap in the past.
USNERDOC 2 years ago
Fantastic idea, have a great day,thank you for sharing.
GuldenBattleSpur 2 years ago
that is really very intelligent...i have to stash alot of my supplies because i cant hike them in every day....
mysciencenow 2 years ago
The label with contents on the outside is a good idea. OSP would think it was a bomb if you got pulled over with it in your truck. Can you just imagine the look on a Troopers face if you had a pile of those stacked up like cord wood on your passenger seat!?
HawkLMT 2 years ago
Good point! I think he label is a critical consideration. I have done some Geocaching in the past (much smaller than this adventure tube) and one of the considerations discussed on some of the forums was the impression of something "bad" in a cache that was stumbled upon by a non-geaochache savvy person. Labels and clear containers were possible solutions.
USNERDOC 2 years ago
Fantastic!
He'll love it :)
xXxCatsnakexXx 2 years ago
Awesome ideas Doc !!!
Tex
edarotag84 2 years ago
Great tips for long term storage. Thanks again. 5 stars
Wranglerbarn
wranglerbarn 2 years ago
Might be a good way to store "important and essential items" on a WROL property!
USNERDOC 2 years ago
Sounds like a fun day coming up. How is Matt going to know where to dig? Nice job, thanks.
biguy525 2 years ago
Likely some strong hints coupled with a map +/- GPS coordinates. Had gone that far in my thinking other than to make a "buried treasure" for him!
USNERDOC 2 years ago
Great idea for a father & son outing. I agree what boy wouldn't love digging up buried treasure. He'll remember this adventure with dad for the rest of his life.
CampfireTalk 2 years ago
Knowing Matt, I think he will get a kick out of this!
USNERDOC 2 years ago
these are good ideas for GEO caching! thanks!
kary1982v6 2 years ago
Geocache would be a great application!
USNERDOC 2 years ago
Nice idea with the test plug. I have designed similar tubes but using a clean out fitting with a threaded plug. Please report back on you ammo tube after the six months. I will be interested to see if there was any moisture penetration.
3oh8 2 years ago
Thanks! I considered a threaded clean out plug. This set up is a bit slimmer in profile and there is no loss of bore diameter.
USNERDOC 2 years ago
there are better cache that are water proof and easyer to make you dont have to use the vacume bag
817riverparkmusic 2 years ago
@817riverparkmusic ok, do tell
CampfireTalk 2 years ago
Remember the vacuum bag is optional . . . just a sleeve to keep the tube clean facilitating reuse. If you are willing to share, I would be interested in hearing about alternative caches. Thanks for watching.
USNERDOC 2 years ago
nice video Doc! There is a place around here that sells powder coated and anodized wing nuts and bolts. I'll try to find that company for you.
-Erik
HawaiiIceMan 2 years ago
Does Matt need a brother? I'm putting myself up for adoption in PDX. You are a fun Dad.
HawkLMT 2 years ago 4
That is quite the compliment my friend!
USNERDOC 2 years ago
Wow! How would you like to adapt a 51 year-old son? ;^P
BroPaul 2 years ago 2
I can hardly keep up with Matt and his sister!
USNERDOC 2 years ago
Very fun. Since you have the mother of all Vac Packers, I'm sending you all my stuff. I would recommend silica packs to suck up any remaining moisture on the inside.
HawkLMT 2 years ago
Silica packs are a good idea . . . funny this is I had some on the counter after unpacking some gear. I got distracted moving forward with the vid . . . a lot skips by this old bald head ;-)
Thanks!
USNERDOC 2 years ago
Great Idea, great vid !!! I have always wanted to dig up a cache. And I am an old lady. You say a lot skips your old bald head. LOL From a head doc to a real doc. I advise living in the same house for the rest of your life. That way, when you are old and senile you don't have to rely on your short term memory to find your way home. :) That is my plan. Good Day !!!
shananagans5 2 years ago
DOC, your materials list has an error. It says a knockout cap is $6 and the Test Plug is .50.
Also, why not ditch the knockout cap and caulking and just get another Test Plug for $1.50 more. There would be less mess in assembly, no?
ZippyGaloo 2 years ago
Eagle Eye! Thank you . . . I will make corrections and repost the PDF. I am notorious for typos . . . my weakness or forte depending on how you want to look at it!
USNERDOC 2 years ago
What a great plan, Doc. Another excellent video. Thank you!
CplJoebot 2 years ago
this reminds me of geocaching.
humanentropy 2 years ago
Great video and great idea. 20 stars brother!!!
SOMEONE got a new sealer!!!!
You are creating cool adventures and memories for you and your boy. Bravo.
OCTOS.....................out
octos2000 2 years ago
Nice new vacuum sealer!
djv38 2 years ago 2
Doc i sent you an email, Can you let me know a good supplier for medical supplies???
remoc8116 2 years ago
I get this question a lot . . . I will work an starting a list that can be updated.
USNERDOC 2 years ago
★★★★★
MadBadVoodo 2 years ago
Very cool, Doc! This could be fun... could save your life... could do both! Awesome vid, as usual! 5/5
Rob
rbcarnut 2 years ago
USNERDOC, you've brought some novel ideas to the table with this project. Excellent video on a subject that may become more valuable in our near future.
swordofdixie 2 years ago
You, my friend, are the vacuum sealing king!!
Great idea. I will be doing a cache for my nephew to find! And, maybe put together my own cache for emergencies.
sheba106 2 years ago
Looks like fun DOC. Be safe out there.
hinckleypoland 2 years ago
Matt is going to love digging up that cache.....you should have added a few clay pigeons too!
mchahn294 2 years ago
I thought of that but they wouldn't fit inside the tube. My solution . . . I wrapped up four clays with some protective foam and vacuum bagged for moisture protection. They will be buried with the tube. Thanks for watching!
USNERDOC 2 years ago
Awesome, I can put my shrunk Amazon heads in there! :)
Tacticalgearhead 2 years ago
Great Video
evankoeve 2 years ago
nice!
mmmikeey 2 years ago