Africans can redeem control over their land and resources by accumulating and ministering capital, organize industry catering to under-served [low -income i.e the global majority] markets by way of commercial enterprise in the form of :
Social Enterprise --(Social Programs that are turn into businesses)
Small and Medium Enterprise -- (Businesses that use a franchise model)
@TorBarstad True. But life is not fair, thats just how it is. No-one gave our great-grandparents aid or a handout. And they made this country the greatest that has ever been.
@oakmeal53 We probably wont end up agreeng, but here is my answer ;)
My great grandparents did actually recieve aid through the marshall plan (I'm from Norway). That's not relevant though. Sure, Africa eventually get out of poverty also with no aid. But with the right types of aid they can get get out of povery faster.
Life isn't fair, but that's not an argument for not taking the needs of others into account. "Thats just how it is" doesn't mean that it should be - or that we should accept it.
Your right we likely well never agree! Would you argue that Aid is NOT hurting Africa? They are the cradle of civilization if they have not figured things out by now will they ever, especially with BILLIONS in aid? Use "feeding the stray cat" example. Yea you can feed it and feel good about yourself, but it will come to rely on you and become worthless. It is a little idealistic to want to change things that have always been and will always be, you might as well devote your life to world peace.
Interesting that he asks why all the Asian countries are doing better than African countries with better governance. Isn't a perfectly fitting conclusion that it's because the Asian countries don't take aid money?
Yes. All of what he said is true, but the same accomplishments that aid has acheived in Africa can be said about the Soviet Union and Soviet planning in Russia and the republics. Aid is good for some things and a general litmus test is to look at the Soviet Union, see where it succeeded (they did do some good) and extend that to the West's efforts in Africa. It will help with health, maybe agriculture in a limited way, but no permanent and self-sustaining changes will likely be made.
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Africans can redeem control over their land and resources by accumulating and ministering capital, organize industry catering to under-served [low -income i.e the global majority] markets by way of commercial enterprise in the form of :
Social Enterprise --(Social Programs that are turn into businesses)
Small and Medium Enterprise -- (Businesses that use a franchise model)
Co-operative Corporation -- ( Integrates: credit unions, worker co-op and R&D)
In this way Africans can be self-reliant.
charbonelle 7 months ago
Africa's wealthy in natural resources. We don't want them to develop. Same goes for South America.
randomdude5640 9 months ago
what results is this monkey talking about? africa is a cess-pool, end of argument.
why does a bad government not squander aid again?
oh an 600 Billion dollars is "all the money" that is being wasted? good thing thats only pocket change....
and even with any achievments accomplished, why is it our concern again what happens in africa?
oakmeal53 1 year ago
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ShineboxHero 1 year ago
@oakmeal53 Because nobody chooses where they are born.
TorBarstad 1 year ago
@TorBarstad True. But life is not fair, thats just how it is. No-one gave our great-grandparents aid or a handout. And they made this country the greatest that has ever been.
oakmeal53 1 year ago
@oakmeal53 We probably wont end up agreeng, but here is my answer ;)
My great grandparents did actually recieve aid through the marshall plan (I'm from Norway). That's not relevant though. Sure, Africa eventually get out of poverty also with no aid. But with the right types of aid they can get get out of povery faster.
Life isn't fair, but that's not an argument for not taking the needs of others into account. "Thats just how it is" doesn't mean that it should be - or that we should accept it.
TorBarstad 1 year ago 5
Your right we likely well never agree! Would you argue that Aid is NOT hurting Africa? They are the cradle of civilization if they have not figured things out by now will they ever, especially with BILLIONS in aid? Use "feeding the stray cat" example. Yea you can feed it and feel good about yourself, but it will come to rely on you and become worthless. It is a little idealistic to want to change things that have always been and will always be, you might as well devote your life to world peace.
oakmeal53 1 year ago
Interesting that he asks why all the Asian countries are doing better than African countries with better governance. Isn't a perfectly fitting conclusion that it's because the Asian countries don't take aid money?
agawefda425 2 years ago
No.
OTVF 2 years ago
Aid to Africa is a BAD idea. The best thing we can do for Africa is to trade and prevent people from exploiting Africa. Aid creates dependency.
enyawix 2 years ago
Interesting, in that his argument is based on statistics, statistics can be manipulated to mean anything. Rubbish I say, RUBBISH!
A point to note is that the view or arguments between those in the
wachawivu 2 years ago
this dude speak alot of shit he is giving the good deeds of aid but never stated why africa can not move forward as fast as they should be
sguardian870 2 years ago
Yes. All of what he said is true, but the same accomplishments that aid has acheived in Africa can be said about the Soviet Union and Soviet planning in Russia and the republics. Aid is good for some things and a general litmus test is to look at the Soviet Union, see where it succeeded (they did do some good) and extend that to the West's efforts in Africa. It will help with health, maybe agriculture in a limited way, but no permanent and self-sustaining changes will likely be made.
ivanmikhailov 3 years ago
This guy owns! ;)
TorBarstad 3 years ago
Great speech!
allwales 4 years ago