NY Times call this a NATO action. Lots of headfakes and looking ahead on the chess board. If it fails they will blame Bush. If it succeeds NATO gets credit. Thanks to Royal Marines & Semper Fi to USMC.
Yes Nato is killing,Un are expoiting,Cia does crimes,such as drugs sale,and a hole lot worse things.Who,well who served you the swine flu hoax.Usa is acting like they are a empire that can innvade everything they want,but one day,there seed of blood will burst in there face,yes im saying something,i dont know waht will ruin Usa,every empire falls from whitin.
@urbanprophet777 At least blastarrbollaxlll has a more realistic title for NATO other than Nazis. The fact that he/she has put dates and numbers in his/her post offers his/her argument more validity than your rantings about the U.S.
well if you have documents,evidence and conving links please feel free to post,but i think i missed out on alot,what cia have confessed,what crimes they have said them slef they have done,The Nato,nazi comment is really not anything i need proof for its common knowlegde,that usa is stupid,well they elected Obama right?,and bush for 2 terms,says it all.That who want controll over the world popualtion,and reduction is also quite common news,did u forget the swine flu hoax allready?
did you also forgot the clima hoax,that even Obama joined up on.And Un do they really save life or do they,move in,and make millitary bases?there is alot of info,just get it right,but i dont really think a american is smart enough for that,i doubt they see whats comming,and i doubt they ever get smart enough to see wahts going on in front of there eyes=)
hehe im not pro norway,im more neutral in all my views,thats why i stand away,and say what i think,rather then speak the message,you get from common media,im very much in to poltics,and i really hate,yes hate,the way Us and Nato,"nazi" innvade other sovergin countrys.And for you thoughts,was 9/11 ever innvestigated?
To invade a sovereign country does not make someone a Nazi. As I've said numerous times before Afghanistan was necessary and Iraq wasn't. Russia invaded sovereign Georgian territory in 2008, are they Nazis too? You haven't mentioned Taliban treatment of women, brutalization and lack of basic rights such as education seem more like Nazism to me than anything the U.S. and Nato have done.
I have read nothing other than anti-American posts from you, I have been giving you examples from numerous other countries and you have seemed to ignore them. I am a historian, I do not even watch the "news" on television, or read from "newspapers" I delve deeper than that, and obviously deeper than you choose to as well. You are neither neutral in your views nor do you "stand away," and just because you "say what you think" doesn't mean that you've done your research.
Yes, 9/11 was congressionally investigated and a nearly 1,000 page report was released and published for the public to read. I shudder at the thought that perhaps now I will hear from you how 9/11 was an inside job. What complete slop. Yes, steel's melting point is 2,777 degrees Fahrenheit but, the temperature at which it loses most of its structural strength is MUCH lower.
@urbanprophet777 What are you talking about? "So in other words you take media view, as the superior truth?" Who and what is that question directed towards? Im going to chalk this up to the fact that you aren't that proficient in the English language because so many times now you have gone off on some weird nonsensical tangent that doesn't quite fit into any part of this argument. I haven't taken a stance similar to the popular media so I just can't understand where this question comes from
@Mr.Norway: Your attack on the U.S. is a poor one. First, the U.S. isn't the only country in space - North Korea, China, India, Iran, France, AND Russia are also involved with space. In fact, this space thing all started through GERMAN scientists. Imagine that! We don't have "our own every big company." Just bc the companies are in the U.S. doesn't mean we OWN them. Look at Citgo! Citgo is own by the Venezuela government, which is run by dictator Chavez. Yeah! Nice attempt to attack, bro!
Again, read my posts and actually comprehend what I am saying and you will see that in no way am I blind to the corruption in my own country. I have been saying all along that corruption, drugs, shadow governments, etc. are not in any way unique to the United States and we are not the cause of all evil. Furthermore I comment on your connection between NATO and Nazism. THERE IS NO CONNECTION. Clearly you don't understand Nazism because in your "explanation" nothing you said made sense.
Urbanprohett777 & bulanhan obviously favor radical islamic militant killing innocent women and children. Would it not be for the fact that muslim extremists will come here and kill Americans if we ignore them, I'd sooner leave them to do what they've done for thousands of years...killing each other..sheite against suni etc,,,pathetic!
@infants1 no i dont,but its there problem to solve not america,america goot problems of its own, i gonna give you a harsh exsample,in usa u can killed over drugs,addictions..whats make you think you are better?
@urbanprophet777 People are killed over drugs in every country including Muslim countries. I'm sorry but you cant attack the U.S. over problems that did not start with the U.S. and are not exclusive to the U.S. We are nowhere near perfect, but we certainly are nowhere near the cause of all problems and global instability either.
@werdup6 ure not?what are you dong making wars all over?why are you in space?why do you have to own every big company?becuse your country is acting like a empire,that dont have to follow the rules,you set for others.How would you feel if russia came in attacking Usa for a yankee terrorist?sponsed by the very own russia,and also trained and armed by the very same country...i bet you feel like russia,where nazis,but this is how u are
@urbanprophet777: Making wars all over? As I said before Afghanistan was a necessary war, I feel, that was put on the back burner for an unnecessary war. However, those are the only two conflicts were are involved in. Your Russia scenario doesn't make any sense at all and neither does your "own every big company" theory either as we don't own every big company. Hitler and Stalin signed a non-aggression pact in which they split Poland, Hitler wanted Russian territory for "living space"...
@urbanprophet777: ... for a "racially pure" German reich. Again, I see no similarities what so ever. And, speaking of Russia, how come you aren't railing against them for their dirty little war in Georgia? That must be because of America too huh? This constant demonization of the U.S. is getting old, don't forget that whenever anyone is in trouble they call the U.S. for help. Also, your reference to us being in space is lost on me. You do know there are dozens of other countries in space
@urbanprophet777: No we are not the cause of all evil and insinuate something like that is pure foolishness. Just because Norway doesn't have much to offer the world doesn't mean that countries that do, and no I am not referring to only the U.S., doesn't mean that you need to try and attack other countries that do. All of your statements lack logic, evidence, and relevance. Whatever your sources are, you need to ditch them and use a little bit of objectivity in your research.
Since the taliban is standing their ground the town and surrounding area should be carpet bombed. Thusly, the locals can come back and rebuild without the Taliban.
What's the point of that ? You move 80,000 people from their homes, destroy them and then tell them to rebuild them ? How many people would turn to the taliban from that village alone ?
@mericanwit: I agree with trollfinger. However, since they are standing their ground they are allowing coalition forces to trap and destroy them in more conventional maneuver warfare, which the Taliban has no hope of winning.
nato=nazi,well they created al quida,by founding,they armed and even trained some.Know there hoax,is completed and they can move into Muslim countrys,and act like a "savior".I dont hate americans,but how can you let such foul poltics,get away.
@urbanprophet777: Nato didn't found Al Qaeda. Al Qaeda was founded by Bin Laden, yes during the Soviet Invasion of Afghanistan we funded their armament and gave some of them training. The ones we gave training to ended up not being the ones we are fighting now. The ones we are fighting now didn't want ANYTHING from us infidels and so refused our training, but not the weapons of course. Bin Laden's own son said the only thing his father has said he likes from the US is our weaponry.
@urbanprophet777 What is not true? ALL world governments have dark pasts and dark secrets, period. But, yes the bit about Al Qaeda being founded by Bin Laden and not by the U.S. is very true. Al Qaeda means the struggle in Arabic, and that is meant to signify their "struggle against the great Satan" or the U.S. and any other government or entity that does not support sharia law and theocratic governments.
What about your own government? What about the countless indigenous tribes the British Empire brutalized and subjugated? You are a fool if you think America goes into countries simply to end lives. Iraq was a mistake but will be reconciled with a successful parliamentary democracy that may lead it to prosperity. Afghanistan should have been the focus the entire time and yes one of the trademarks of warfare is civilian death but at least in our case its the exception not the rule.
Please explain how America has embraced Nazism. I see no singling out of an ethnicity for destruction, I see no laws regarding elevation of those of a specific "genetic" disposition. I never understand these comparisons with Nazi Germany, and I can never seem to get specific answers as to how we resemble Nazi Germany from those whom make these statements. America is by no means perfect, we have had our share of ill advised conflict, but our actions for the most part have genuinely goo intent.
@urbanprophet777 Again all governments have their own "shadow" entities, they always have in some form or another and the population has always had a justifiable aversion to them. But the mere knowledge of their existence is enough to limit their power. No matter what someone involved in those shadow organisations will step forward and expose them; case in point: the Iran Contra scandal.
We are going to leave Afghanistan the same way we left Vietnam - in disgrace. Iraq will also be a stain on america. We prowl the world seeking revenge. Our whole identity revolves around being a bully. We've been on the wrong side of history since world war II. But we've stayed true to conservative principles. We're real good at putting ourselves first. Things are much more important to us than people. We've got ours . Let them get theirs.
NY Times call this a NATO action. Lots of headfakes and looking ahead on the chess board. If it fails they will blame Bush. If it succeeds NATO gets credit. Thanks to Royal Marines & Semper Fi to USMC.
Hetzel56 1 year ago
NATO kills 12 Afghan Civilians. : 14th February 2010.
NATO kills 05 Afghan Civilians. : 15th February 2010
NATO kills 33 Afghan Civilians. : 21st February 2010.
NATO = MURDERERS.
blastarrbollaxIII 1 year ago 2
Yes Nato is killing,Un are expoiting,Cia does crimes,such as drugs sale,and a hole lot worse things.Who,well who served you the swine flu hoax.Usa is acting like they are a empire that can innvade everything they want,but one day,there seed of blood will burst in there face,yes im saying something,i dont know waht will ruin Usa,every empire falls from whitin.
urbanprophet777 1 year ago
@urbanprophet777 At least blastarrbollaxlll has a more realistic title for NATO other than Nazis. The fact that he/she has put dates and numbers in his/her post offers his/her argument more validity than your rantings about the U.S.
werdup6 1 year ago
check ure facts =)
urbanprophet777 1 year ago
@urbanprophet777 MY facts have been checked, you are the one that has failed to produce evidence in your arguments.
werdup6 1 year ago
well if you have documents,evidence and conving links please feel free to post,but i think i missed out on alot,what cia have confessed,what crimes they have said them slef they have done,The Nato,nazi comment is really not anything i need proof for its common knowlegde,that usa is stupid,well they elected Obama right?,and bush for 2 terms,says it all.That who want controll over the world popualtion,and reduction is also quite common news,did u forget the swine flu hoax allready?
urbanprophet777 1 year ago
did you also forgot the clima hoax,that even Obama joined up on.And Un do they really save life or do they,move in,and make millitary bases?there is alot of info,just get it right,but i dont really think a american is smart enough for that,i doubt they see whats comming,and i doubt they ever get smart enough to see wahts going on in front of there eyes=)
urbanprophet777 1 year ago
@blastarrbollaxIII Sources please. Im not saying it didn't or couldn't happen just asking for your sources.
werdup6 1 year ago
@urbanprophet777: BTW, cograts on the USA vs Norway Olympic hockey game. OH WAIT! Mr. Over bearing USA dominated, as usual!
ooh9hokie 1 year ago
hehe im not pro norway,im more neutral in all my views,thats why i stand away,and say what i think,rather then speak the message,you get from common media,im very much in to poltics,and i really hate,yes hate,the way Us and Nato,"nazi" innvade other sovergin countrys.And for you thoughts,was 9/11 ever innvestigated?
urbanprophet777 1 year ago
To invade a sovereign country does not make someone a Nazi. As I've said numerous times before Afghanistan was necessary and Iraq wasn't. Russia invaded sovereign Georgian territory in 2008, are they Nazis too? You haven't mentioned Taliban treatment of women, brutalization and lack of basic rights such as education seem more like Nazism to me than anything the U.S. and Nato have done.
werdup6 1 year ago
So you say any can innvade Usa if womans are comprismised or get hurt?
urbanprophet777 1 year ago
I have read nothing other than anti-American posts from you, I have been giving you examples from numerous other countries and you have seemed to ignore them. I am a historian, I do not even watch the "news" on television, or read from "newspapers" I delve deeper than that, and obviously deeper than you choose to as well. You are neither neutral in your views nor do you "stand away," and just because you "say what you think" doesn't mean that you've done your research.
werdup6 1 year ago
Yes, 9/11 was congressionally investigated and a nearly 1,000 page report was released and published for the public to read. I shudder at the thought that perhaps now I will hear from you how 9/11 was an inside job. What complete slop. Yes, steel's melting point is 2,777 degrees Fahrenheit but, the temperature at which it loses most of its structural strength is MUCH lower.
werdup6 1 year ago
So in other words you take media view,as the superior truth?
urbanprophet777 1 year ago
@urbanprophet777 What are you talking about? "So in other words you take media view, as the superior truth?" Who and what is that question directed towards? Im going to chalk this up to the fact that you aren't that proficient in the English language because so many times now you have gone off on some weird nonsensical tangent that doesn't quite fit into any part of this argument. I haven't taken a stance similar to the popular media so I just can't understand where this question comes from
werdup6 1 year ago
@Mr.Norway: Your attack on the U.S. is a poor one. First, the U.S. isn't the only country in space - North Korea, China, India, Iran, France, AND Russia are also involved with space. In fact, this space thing all started through GERMAN scientists. Imagine that! We don't have "our own every big company." Just bc the companies are in the U.S. doesn't mean we OWN them. Look at Citgo! Citgo is own by the Venezuela government, which is run by dictator Chavez. Yeah! Nice attempt to attack, bro!
ooh9hokie 1 year ago
Free Palestine.
LSRochon 1 year ago
@LSRochon: Don't worry our shadow government is on it rofl.
werdup6 1 year ago
youre not very smart,if u cant see the corruption in ure own country =)
urbanprophet777 1 year ago
Again, read my posts and actually comprehend what I am saying and you will see that in no way am I blind to the corruption in my own country. I have been saying all along that corruption, drugs, shadow governments, etc. are not in any way unique to the United States and we are not the cause of all evil. Furthermore I comment on your connection between NATO and Nazism. THERE IS NO CONNECTION. Clearly you don't understand Nazism because in your "explanation" nothing you said made sense.
werdup6 1 year ago
nazi=national socialism,whit facist,dictator leader
urbanprophet777 1 year ago
Urbanprohett777 & bulanhan obviously favor radical islamic militant killing innocent women and children. Would it not be for the fact that muslim extremists will come here and kill Americans if we ignore them, I'd sooner leave them to do what they've done for thousands of years...killing each other..sheite against suni etc,,,pathetic!
infants1 1 year ago
@infants1 no i dont,but its there problem to solve not america,america goot problems of its own, i gonna give you a harsh exsample,in usa u can killed over drugs,addictions..whats make you think you are better?
urbanprophet777 1 year ago
@urbanprophet777 People are killed over drugs in every country including Muslim countries. I'm sorry but you cant attack the U.S. over problems that did not start with the U.S. and are not exclusive to the U.S. We are nowhere near perfect, but we certainly are nowhere near the cause of all problems and global instability either.
werdup6 1 year ago
@werdup6 ure not?what are you dong making wars all over?why are you in space?why do you have to own every big company?becuse your country is acting like a empire,that dont have to follow the rules,you set for others.How would you feel if russia came in attacking Usa for a yankee terrorist?sponsed by the very own russia,and also trained and armed by the very same country...i bet you feel like russia,where nazis,but this is how u are
urbanprophet777 1 year ago
@urbanprophet777: Making wars all over? As I said before Afghanistan was a necessary war, I feel, that was put on the back burner for an unnecessary war. However, those are the only two conflicts were are involved in. Your Russia scenario doesn't make any sense at all and neither does your "own every big company" theory either as we don't own every big company. Hitler and Stalin signed a non-aggression pact in which they split Poland, Hitler wanted Russian territory for "living space"...
werdup6 1 year ago
@urbanprophet777: ... for a "racially pure" German reich. Again, I see no similarities what so ever. And, speaking of Russia, how come you aren't railing against them for their dirty little war in Georgia? That must be because of America too huh? This constant demonization of the U.S. is getting old, don't forget that whenever anyone is in trouble they call the U.S. for help. Also, your reference to us being in space is lost on me. You do know there are dozens of other countries in space
werdup6 1 year ago
@urbanprophet777: No we are not the cause of all evil and insinuate something like that is pure foolishness. Just because Norway doesn't have much to offer the world doesn't mean that countries that do, and no I am not referring to only the U.S., doesn't mean that you need to try and attack other countries that do. All of your statements lack logic, evidence, and relevance. Whatever your sources are, you need to ditch them and use a little bit of objectivity in your research.
werdup6 1 year ago
Since the taliban is standing their ground the town and surrounding area should be carpet bombed. Thusly, the locals can come back and rebuild without the Taliban.
mericanwit 2 years ago
What's the point of that ? You move 80,000 people from their homes, destroy them and then tell them to rebuild them ? How many people would turn to the taliban from that village alone ?
trollfinger 1 year ago
@mericanwit: I agree with trollfinger. However, since they are standing their ground they are allowing coalition forces to trap and destroy them in more conventional maneuver warfare, which the Taliban has no hope of winning.
werdup6 1 year ago
nato=nazi,well they created al quida,by founding,they armed and even trained some.Know there hoax,is completed and they can move into Muslim countrys,and act like a "savior".I dont hate americans,but how can you let such foul poltics,get away.
urbanprophet777 2 years ago
@urbanprophet777: Nato didn't found Al Qaeda. Al Qaeda was founded by Bin Laden, yes during the Soviet Invasion of Afghanistan we funded their armament and gave some of them training. The ones we gave training to ended up not being the ones we are fighting now. The ones we are fighting now didn't want ANYTHING from us infidels and so refused our training, but not the weapons of course. Bin Laden's own son said the only thing his father has said he likes from the US is our weaponry.
werdup6 1 year ago
@werdup6 well if u think so you are free to think so,but how ever its not the truth
urbanprophet777 1 year ago
@urbanprophet777 What is not true? ALL world governments have dark pasts and dark secrets, period. But, yes the bit about Al Qaeda being founded by Bin Laden and not by the U.S. is very true. Al Qaeda means the struggle in Arabic, and that is meant to signify their "struggle against the great Satan" or the U.S. and any other government or entity that does not support sharia law and theocratic governments.
werdup6 1 year ago
Oh and just so you know; Norway was a founding member of NATO in 1949.
werdup6 1 year ago
yep i know,and i hope we get out of it,asap
urbanprophet777 1 year ago
i hate amerca for killing afganis and iraqis
bulanhan 2 years ago
What about your own government? What about the countless indigenous tribes the British Empire brutalized and subjugated? You are a fool if you think America goes into countries simply to end lives. Iraq was a mistake but will be reconciled with a successful parliamentary democracy that may lead it to prosperity. Afghanistan should have been the focus the entire time and yes one of the trademarks of warfare is civilian death but at least in our case its the exception not the rule.
werdup6 1 year ago
America,the new nazis strike again
urbanprophet777 2 years ago
Please explain how America has embraced Nazism. I see no singling out of an ethnicity for destruction, I see no laws regarding elevation of those of a specific "genetic" disposition. I never understand these comparisons with Nazi Germany, and I can never seem to get specific answers as to how we resemble Nazi Germany from those whom make these statements. America is by no means perfect, we have had our share of ill advised conflict, but our actions for the most part have genuinely goo intent.
werdup6 1 year ago
@werdup6 you will see whit ure own eyes in due time,if you dont bleive me know,im not saying ALL americans are bad,but ure shadow goverment is.
urbanprophet777 1 year ago
@urbanprophet777 Again all governments have their own "shadow" entities, they always have in some form or another and the population has always had a justifiable aversion to them. But the mere knowledge of their existence is enough to limit their power. No matter what someone involved in those shadow organisations will step forward and expose them; case in point: the Iran Contra scandal.
werdup6 1 year ago
cat0000112000 - Get their what?
hrlyrdr1443 2 years ago
We are going to leave Afghanistan the same way we left Vietnam - in disgrace. Iraq will also be a stain on america. We prowl the world seeking revenge. Our whole identity revolves around being a bully. We've been on the wrong side of history since world war II. But we've stayed true to conservative principles. We're real good at putting ourselves first. Things are much more important to us than people. We've got ours . Let them get theirs.
cat00012000 2 years ago 4
cat, you're a clinically depressed fecophiliac. get help. buy a clue while you're at it.
soakupthesunman 2 years ago
first comment :)
stevenzv7 2 years ago