195 Seconds to Arrest-Peaceful Christian Pastor Arrested

[j4unumber1]

It is you who has to take the first initiative. Gay people are not obligated to do so...Christian.

[j4unumber1]

@soupertech1

Stop harassing gay people and gay people will stop harassing you.

[whatever7x7]

Wichita is a FAT FUCKING Armpit

[filmproducer4]

I hope they dont arrest me for speaking the truth. those cops are fat

[filmproducer4]

Those cops are all fat . what are they feeding those guys.

[samueldavs]

you had a lawful order, to move... you refused... have fun in jail

kudos to cop

[MrEnlightenup]

what a shame he knows not that he is brainwashed,i hope we start going after the pulpit pimps that rape the poor on sundays.i bet this guy was born into christian bondage and does not know any better...i bet he even seen god writing the bible cuz all christians say god wrote the bible,not the sheep hearders and cave persons.wasint it writen when the earth was still flat..

[SilverHamer]

There is a lesson in this...people who are having a funeral for their fallen military loved ones should obtain a permit so they can keep those whack jobs from that church which protests at military funerals from getting close enough to disrupt the proceedings.

[aburashdan]

"I want you to think about this," the judge said. "What if the shoe had been on the other foot and someone from the Islamic Center had come to your place and tried to convert your members and had blocked your driveway?"

[GODH8TZ]

when ppl apply for a permit they can say who the want to be removed fromthe sidewalk like it or not. the pastor should have obeyed the orders. and took it up later.

[booger100101]

A private event on public streets? I don't think so. He has he right to pass out bibles and talk of God and Jesus to anyone as long as he does not obstruct traffic or accost people. My friends.. Islam is evil..it lies, it cheats it steals and it will kill all christians. I am not a very religious person, but this is wrong.

[GODH8TZ]

@booger100101 if it was a permitted event, then yes the ppl wit the permit have right to have someone removed

[brianblackberry]

There is someone who is purposely trying to get arrested. He wasn't out the preach, he was out to provoke the cops. How many times to they have to answer the same damn questions over and over?

[PersephonesFear]

@brianblackberry The rules for events, here where I am in Washington state, based on federal law, put no restrictions on hecklers, pickateers, or counter protesters, whether they make counter comments, talk to attendees, or hand out material at a protest, providing they are not blocking passerbys way. The sidewalk is free use, and no permit is needed - the only permit possibly needed is for those hosting the event to use streets or parks, and this is not to ban others, but to keep public order.

[Ragewolf2008]

Convicted of doing GOD's work, By fellow so-called christians, all in NAME OF POLITICAL CORRECTNESS. I say you can take your PC and shove it all way up where the sun don't sun. PC has turned this country into a bunch of whining crying lil' BITCHES scared to state the truth because it may "oooffffennnd" somebody. Let that man FREE, and let him CONTINUE to hand out those bibles to muslims, if they don't like it WELL TOO DAMN BAD. Stop being PC BITCHES.

[dwoods828]

Is it just me or are those cops obese? They couldn't run to 1st base...disgusting...

[abcmole]

@dwoods828

The city had to pay the good pastor $11,700 for violating his God-given rights.

And yes, those cops are very obese in body but also quite anaemic in moral certitude, understanding of human rights and rule of law - lovers of tyranny.

[fintyrock]

Very unjust!

[MisticMcil]

@j4unumber1 So it is ok for someone to flaunt their sexuality in your face, but it is not ok to disagree with what they are doing and show it? The pastor's rights end where the gay's rights begin, I assume. I thought we had this whole peaceful protest thing in America.

[lunhil12]

Good, he only went there to annoy the GLBT group because he's offended by them. No respect for others as usual by these religious right wingers. They had a permit and he did not. Let him get a permit to have his own day in the sun if thats what he wants.

Cops were just enforcing the laws everyone knows are there to keep things orderly and safe for everyone.

[PersephonesFear]

@lunhil12 Except they were not enforcing the 'laws', they were enforcing their own made up judgements. The city lost the court case, had to pay damages, and did not even try to plead innocent that they did not violate his rights.

[lunhil12]

@PersephonesFear At least passersby could walk by that spot without hearing his annoying harangue. I find people like him to be annoyingly smug in their self righteousness and I refuse to put up with them. They have had a free ride too long. Churches, mosques and temples should start paying taxes if they presume to butt into everyones life.

[PersephonesFear]

@lunhil12 Free speech, and government not making any law in regards to the free excercise of religion, do not simply disappear in times when we dislike them. For instance, at the Glenn Beck rally last year, there was a small group protesting across the street in a park, as well as a few protestors who came to the rally itself with signs. Should they have been kicked out? No! Churches paying taxes or not is an interesting topic - in my view they should - but it is also irrelevent to this arrest.

[ZARIYL]

@PersephonesFear, While its off topic, the idea of CHurches paying taxes is absurd. Does no one firts stop to ask why they are tax excempt in the Firts Place?

Churches are not for Profit charitable and educational orginisations. If they had to pay taxes so shoudl all other non-profits.

I know we somehow think of Churches as somethign other, but they are labled as Non-Perofit Charities, and I for one don't think we should start taxing Charities.

[PersephonesFear]

@ZARIYL I would agree, except that the government often interferes with what a church can say from the pulpit to maintain its status - regardless of what is allowed speech in the Bible. And if pastors change what they say to suit the government, then those churches should be wiilling to give up their tax exempt status to speak freely. That the government put them in that position to begin with is horrendous.

[ZARIYL]

@PersephonesFear, I disagree with both. The Governent shoudl have no Legal Right to censor CHruches by threatenign them with the renmoval of their Tax Excempt Status. The Tax Excemption Status should depend only it it beign a Not-For-Profit enterprise, and not used as a weapon to silence people. The CHurhces however shoudl not be forced ot pay Taxes, as the power to Tax is also the power to destory. Rather, The Government houdl allow them unconditional Free PSeech whilst retaining Tax Exmption.

[PersephonesFear]

@ZARIYL I would agree with that. My point is less that government should force them to pay taxes, and rather that churches should choose to pay taxes rather than restrict their allowed speech from the pulpit. That the government puts them in that position to begin with is lamentable. Hillsdale college impresses me in this regard - choosing not to take federal money in exchange for free speech. Originally, most US colleges were religious and all had free speech without caveats from government.

[ZARIYL]

@PersephonesFear, In hat case why not let them remain Tax Excempt but remove the unjustifiable restriction? That would be far better. After all, once they become Taxable they only gain Free Speech until the Government ups the Taxes on Politically inconveneint speech and drives them into Bankrupcy.

[GODH8TZ]

@lunhil12 you call wqarning you that you are going to hell butting in. well to bad ,

[lunhil12]

@GODH8TZ Send us some postcards when you get there.

[GODH8TZ]

@lunhil12 no moron hell is not a vacation. no sortof enjoyments or pleasures there , no rest no respite from unbearable torment and agony as judgment and punishment for sin. wise up . youre gambling with your soul.

[lunhil12]

@GODH8TZ Moron? I'm not the one who believes in mystical places. You should go preach in Saudi Arabia, I hear they're big on religion there. You would fit in I'm sure.

[GODH8TZ]

@lunhil12 hell is very real stupid not a mystic place . when you get there it is forever

[lunhil12]

@GODH8TZ If your mystical afterlife is full of angry people like you, you can have it. Your cosmological was created by people who lived without a knowledge of science. Their ideas were not original either but a rehash of previous creation myths. I think you believe in something which you have but the narrowest understanding of which of course makes it easier to follow. You realise that you are a christian only by chance of time and geography. But your delusion blinding you.

[MrEnlightenup]

@GODH8TZ wow have you been to hell you talk like you know first hand what its all about.dont tell me you read it in a fiction book.or did your pulpit pimp tell you about it and you believe everything that is told to you like a good little boy..that belief armor that you have on must be very thick like your head.p,s news flash there is no hell or heaven,its made up to put fear in stupid people..

[LEXIS1300]

It's his own fault. What part of "it's a private event, you need to gtfo." does he not understand?

[holinesspreacher64]

Keep preaching bro, they are slowly trying to take our rights away GOD WILL JUDGE THEM!

[yourjunk420]

Let's see him preach some shit in jail. He'll lose his teeth...

[j4unumber1]

I am all for whatever is necessary to make Christians stop harassing gay people. If I had it may way, it would have been much worse for this Christian.

[j4unumber1]

All you had to do was do what the officer requested.  You were asked to leave and you chose not to. If you did leave in the first place, then maybe you would not have had to sit in a patrol car for one hour in extreme heat! Hopefully, Mark Holick, Christian scum such as yourself will think twice before attending group functions that are incompatible with your own personal spiritual and world views. Just stay away from the GLBT community Mark! It's best this way.

[MisticMcil]

@j4unumber1 Obey the police. You have no rights. Move along slave and let the brainwashed masses thought.

Is that the jist of what you wanted to happen?

[j4unumber1]

@MisticMcil

What I REALLY wish would have happened is that this Christian minded his own business.

[j4unumber1]

@MisticMcil

What about my right to be left alone and not have Christians harass me in public?

[soupertech1]

@j4unumber1 What about my rights to not have gays harass

 me in public?

[j4unumber1]

Did Christianity corrupt your ability to understand simple orders as well? You are not welcome there...Mark Holick. Obviously! What purpose do you have in going to a GLBT festival anyhow, Mark? GLBT festivals are not only none of your business, but also that you are not welcome there. Very simple! What? Did Christianity make you less intelligent as well?! By the way: How exactly is sitting in a patrol car for one hour in 95 degree temperatures supposed to elicit sympathy from me?

[csnowutube]

Romans 13:1 Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. 2 Consequently, whoever rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves. 3 For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong.

[TheDoc1313]

wow, so since he can't save their gay souls, he's gonna try and either disrupt their parade or at least take the focus off of them. he could've just gone across the street, but noooooooo, this crazy christian NEEDS that part of the sidewalk. Arrest his ass!! What do you call a pastor with a current police record?......EPIC! try explaining that on sunday morning for the sermon.

[Ruby1978]

this preacher seems like a dick

[koderboy88]

I actually smile at christian protesters now when I go to the pride festival. As long as we keep a good distance between each other, we are free to do what makes us happy (as crazy as we may seem to each other)

[1954phyllis]

@koderboy88 Homosexuality is what is ruining this nation.

[INSIDELINE65]

It"s just another example of america trying to get rid of christinanty, if it were a muslum preaching there religion would they get arested?

[1954phyllis]

@INSIDELINE65 Amen!!!!

[GodPrefersAnAtheist]

I love how you're too stupid to understand something that they explained 20 times. That's a Christian for you, absolutely no education. You go out and cause trouble, then you play the martyr. I bet if I was out protesting you, you'd want me locked up in a heartbeat because I think differently than you do.

[TheAndyLoraProgram]

Hallelu!!

[wpbigpapa69]

There is a difference between freedom of speech and a hate crime. My favorite Part of this stupid debate that's getting fired up here is that people are actually defending this stupid "preacher" for hating a group of people so much he spent time and efforts on organizing a group, and camera whore and getting so mad he then gets arrested.Maybe his time would be more wisely spent on starving children, or the homeless, and leaving the hate speech for his excuses to your god.

[1954phyllis]

I was thinking that America was a free country. I guess it means that if you are a Christian that you can't stand on a public street. What happened to freedom of speech?

[papadoza]

Let the ass slammers have their ass slamming event...

[core2200]

welcome to crazy town . COPS ARE ABUSIVE CONTROL FREAKS. God save us all!!

[wpbigpapa69]

If youhate gays so much why is it you people need to surround yourselves with them in the middle of their pride event. if he is going to be concerning himself with the well being of the gay citizens, maybe its better if he does so from his church, then at-least it would reach other pathetic followers bigoted ears, he sat in a car in 95 degree weather. try reading about what happened to Matthew Shepard when bigoted gay haters like yourselves were not regulated.

[1954phyllis]

@wpbigpapa69 So if preverts want to parade their ungodly perversion than that should be allowed, but a preacher shouldn't be able to preach againt it. It seems mighty unfair to me. What you are saying is that if someone has good morals than that person better not open his or her mouth against something that is very wrong and preverted.

[Kiowa63]

@1954phyllis exactly! You know statistically speaking,,,,,about 40% of his congregation are closet homosexuals. I don't agree with the lifestyle personally, however my life is not perfect, so therefor i don't judge them. Live and let live i say. The ironic thing is....Jesus loves them just as much as he loves you. Think about that?

[1954phyllis]

@Kiowa63 Yes Jesus does love the homosexual but He doesn't condone that lifestyle. Neither does He condone any other sin.

[Kiowa63]

@1954phyllis doesn't it say somewhere in the bible something to the effect that no sin is greater than the next? I believe i was taught that in church. That being said...why do people not protest and pickit and raise hell when someone tells a lie, or when fat people come out in public. Isn't the body suppossed to be a temple. Gluttony is the sin i'm refering to. That is a sin correct? And in Gods eyes according to the Bible......just as bad. Like you said he don't condone any other sin.

[1954phyllis]

@Kiowa63 All sin is wrong in the eyes of God. Since there isn't one person alive on this planet that hasn't ever told a lie or been known to overeat i guess that is why there is no picketeers on the streets on count of those sins. Yes, the body is supposed to be the temple. Yes gluttony is a sin.

[MegaCrevice]

@1954phyllis Yet you treat being gay as a "special" sin. Funny how no other "sin" makes the faith-heads jump through hoops quicker.

[1954phyllis]

@MegaCrevice Sorry but homosexuality is an abomination in the eyes of God. All sin is wrong however and will be punishable by God.

[MegaCrevice]

@1954phyllis yeah yeah yeah..... do continue with the mouth-breather arguments. I'm not religious so whatever excuse you use doesn't bother me at all.

This is a free and democratic society. Religion does not tell people what to do or how to live here. I guess that must really piss you off, since the United States doesn't endorse any one religion. Too bad.

[bradinafghanistan1]

Say hello to $11,000 in settlement money.

[kelleyladydj]

This preacher is a nut case---people hungry, homeless, and without work...and who does he go after??? The gays at a pride rally---lmao lmao...Im thinking this pastor needs to get a grip on reality...

[1954phyllis]

@kelleyladydj What I dont understand is what do gays have to be proud of. Their lifestyle is absolutely disgusting.

[1angrywhite]

@kelleyladydj What may I ask are you doing for the hungry and the homeless?

[lisapratt1]

@kelleyladydj he was protesting the fact in the bible it says that no man shall lay with another man...in other words no butt fucking its a moral crime and against christian laws....i say the faggots got the issues if they are so great then a priest handing out fliers should not bother r them. as far as the Muslims? well fuck em' they don't like opposition and react violently against other forms of religion...sounds satanic to me..

[Maggotpunk]

Always good to see this slimeball arrested.

[tweethang1]

Ship that pastor to a gas chamber and kill him! HAIL SATAN!

[IndyCub86]

What's the supposed problem? If you reversed this situation I think the only complaints would be that the cop was too kind.

Holding some belief against others doesn't exempt you from obeying ordinances ....

[TVWriterGuy]

Sorry, but the pastor is in the wrong here. We have to obey these laws for safety's sake.

[bleedthefreak69]

man did u guys notice how fat everyone is here. im suprised the buildings didnt cave in due to the gravitational force generated by these whales. a marvel of american engineering! ^_^

[RobertMOdell]

This is getting to be an old issue. When private parties are allowed to reserve use of public space, it is most often the case that they are allowed to control its use and attendance as well.

[Scientologee]

Another Christian, living a loving Christian life. NOT.

[kramerkry00]

I just want to know one thing. How many donuts do the cops eat a day? Wow, these are some fat ol boys, hahaha

[TAKEHEED1]

Lawless cops, these cops are fools supporting the filty FAG agenda. These fools don't even understand that they took an oath and have a duty to uphold the 1st admendment.

[MegaCrevice]

@TAKEHEED1 You are a fool.

[Fenix818]

The only thing wrong about this was that the police were being to nice. This asshole doesn't get special privellages just for being a pastor.

[aaronready1]

man law enforcement needs to stop submitting to brainwash and get educated!! this is ridiculous

[RDFG87]

wow that guy needs a good beat down

[bobbyfoster22835]

Damn Fred Phelps wanna be's

[davesevaw]

stupid christain asshole he deserves what he got

[GodKillerAtheist]

10 commandments and he cannot even follow one little law about not being a dick in public

[catholicmilitant]

I wish there were more Christians willing to do what this guy does.

[pilotoenrique]

Amen

[davesevaw]

are you serious it was a private funktion permited he was just being a dick

[RDFG87]

What break the law, its a private event, for how he was acting they treated him too nice

[Grebryspell]

FOR ME TO HANDLE! HOWS ABOUT YOU! CAN YOU HANDLE CONTER PROTESTS OR ARE YOU TO WEAK IN YOUR CHARACTERS TO DO SO! THAT IS THE IMPORTANT QUESTION! CAN YOU ALLOW FREE PEOPLE TO BE FREE? OR DO YOU WANT TO PUT THEM IN CHAINS FOR SPEAKING?????????? IF YOU WOULD HAVE THEM JAILED...you are not worthy to be called an American..pastor homosexuals all protected by the constitution! COP NEEDS TO BE IN JAIL FOR A WHILE..IF IT WAS ME, I WOULD HAVE HIM FIRED. he is a bad example of a civil servant...

[RDFG87]

the cop was way to nice, he never got angry or loud and did his job like he should of

[Grebryspell]

the person that is not listening is the Cop....he is in violation of the constitution! that is why the city dropped the charges! if ya missed it the first time! read the first amendment to the constitution.....this cop needs to be fired! the city sued! but the pastor will not do that...as long as his freedoms are not violated....the first amendment is Key to a free society! it doesnt say anything about being offended! im offended daily! its what happens in a free society! freedom is not to much

[matthewlane]

@Grebryspell Actually if the group has hired the land from the city, they have every right to remove somebody for trespassing, the man can also be arrested for disturbing the peace.

[Grebryspell]

The city of Wichita, Kan., has confessed it violated the civil rights of a pastor who was arrested for being on a public city sidewalk at the time a homosexual event was going on nearby, and the subsequent lawsuit has been dismissed as part of a consent decree.

[reportanddeport]

Homosexuals and fascists own America. Christians must suffer, and the Constitution must die, for the betterment of gayness.

[Stalicone]

The measure of a free society is its ability to tolerate offensive speech.

[jrpride100]

Did Jesus teach you it ok to suck cock

[greywolf424]

I am sure your priest taught you to suck cock

[jimh3768]

This preacher is a racist scum. He does not represent us Christians. He represents the exact opposite of what Jesus taught us.

[Grebryspell]

Be careful who you judge and what comes out of your mouth! preaching against homosexuality is a God given right! John the babtist preached against King Herod marrying his brothers wife....you need to read the bible more if you are going to claim to be a Christian! please do not spread ignorance! please explain the racist comment!!!! you cannot take some of the bible and leave the rest! its all or nothing pal! its not there for you to pick and choose which parts you like and dislike!

[GodKillerAtheist]

I've read the bible at least 100 times and was a devout member for over 18 years do I qualify as a christian? I hope not Christians mutilate their childrens genitals the whole religion is built on racism misogyny and stupidity IMO but hey who am I to judge a religion I was a member for 18 years and read the bible every day sometimes only getting 3 or 4 hours of sleep because of it WHO AM I TO JUDGE SINCE I APPARENTLY KNOW NOTHING OF IT !

[keepright72]

But, but, but.... no one will be able to see our snazzy Jesus T's from the other side of the street!

[andyschannel17]

That man is a waste of life.

[404040wolf]

I hate these street preachers cry'n about freedom of speech..

Why not go to Harlem and start calling people the "N" word.. ehh? Cause you'd get your ass shot...

But go down to gay pride and yell at the gays and it's ok right.. Ya cause gays don't carry guns. The cops getting him outta there were protecting that Idiot..and he doesn't even know it.

[paisleyyama]

He was put in a car in 95 degree sunlight for one hour. Was the a/c running during that time? If a citizen did that to another citizen especially to a child, they would be arrested for abuse.

[kaylawbie]

Oh, no! He had to sit in 95° heat? Well, at least he'll be prepared for hell when he gets there.

[RuhtW]

BTW, where I live, there are laws against leaving animals in hot cars for too long. Apparently leaving pastors in such hot cars is perfectly okay, if the pastors are not politically correct.

[poosaypirate]

and whats wrong with that? they will end up some where hot anyway for spreading such vile hatred.

stop eating shellfish if you are so concerned about " abominations" you religious nut

[Brucev7]

@RuhtW Amen.

[RuhtW]

Why should a person "cooperate with the police" if the police have no legal right to harass the person?

And as far as I know it wasn't a "parade," but rather a gathering on publicly-owned property...

[poosaypirate]

you are so rebellious. no respect for the law

[RuhtW]

...Since when is freedom of speech and freedom or religion and freedom to peaceably assemble" removed from our rights just because another group is offended by someone else's peaceful message? And if it was a parade, since when does the U.S. government have the right to silence peaceful speech from people standing on the sidewalk witnessing the parade?

Perhaps you would like to share Wichita's laws concerning this, and your views on the Constitution concerning this...

[poosaypirate]

aih, you folks lost my sympathy ages ago, you belong to a terrorist organization nothing more. go feed the homeless if you are so " concerned" about society. do something useful for a change instead of terrorizing tax payers

[RuhtW]

...And if the pastor was truly breaking some law, then why was he not charged after the arrest? It seems concerning that he was just arrested to try and silence his viewpoints against sodomy, thus violating his Constitutional rights.

And if you think sitting in a patrol car for that length of time in 95 degree heat is nothing to reasonably complain about, then how about you doing it yourself and filming it for YouTube and letting us see how you react to such a thing.

[poosaypirate]

what about the tazers, tear gas, pepper spray, broken bones, and other acts of violence perpotrated on US citizens peacefully marching against war in USA? huh Ms Konstitution?

[GoonRides]

Oh, boo hoo...it was hot in the patrol car. Why didn't Pastor Holick just cooperate with police? They only wanted him to go to the other side of the street. The organizers of the parade obtained a permit, and worked with police to make sure there was no trouble at the event. Seems like Pastor Holick should have done the same.

[poosaypirate]

other people get tazed and broken bones.

why not him?

[paisleyyama]

That`s a cruel statement. Do you really want someone tazed and their bones broken just b/c it happens to someone else? I don`t want anyone to face such cruelty. Probably why this man did not face that abuse was because someone was filming this and the police knew it. If they thought no one was looking and they could get away with it, then yes they probably would have been more forceful.

[poosaypirate]

-ive heard alot of cruel statements in my life, esp directed towards gays. why should I be better than these state sponsored terrorists? They do nothing for society accept destroy it- these people are the reason why such a system is implmented in USA in the first place, its about time they finially see the ramifications of what they do to others & their own society, its called karma. The cam doesnt matter- ive seen war protesters tazed & beaten on cam its then irreleveant to officers.

[paisleyyama]

I think you answered your on questions. If you feel like they are terrorists then I think you would want to be better than that. 2nd you called them "these people". The fact that they are ppl requires that they be treated like humans. There are many ppl in this world that I disagree w/but I will stand up for their human rights. Even criminals don`t deserve to have their bones broken & brutally beaten. It sounds like you have been hurt by others which is sad but hurting back is not the answer.

[poosaypirate]

not really, i think where we disagree is this, these terrorist freaks do not see the consequence of what they do to their own society and they need a taste of their own medicine, as i said they implment this shit, not me

[paisleyyama]

Do you not think this creates a negative cycle where they hurt someone so the person wants them to pay and be hurt back? Once they are hurt then they want to pay back and then they have their feelings affirmed that the other group is bad. Then the other group gets hurt again & knows the other group is bad so on and on it goes. I just don`t believe in violence especially police brutality against citizens who can`t defend themselves. Plus,I see no good in a cycle of hate.

[poosaypirate]

you seem 2 miss the point enteriley, this is THEIR SYSTEM: they dont suffer of it because they implement it they R "the good guys" but a bad system cn cave in on itself. what U Are talking about is the acutal VICTIMS purportrating th same crimes back. IE GAYS or war protestors running around tazing christians republinazis & causing thm harm. Im talking about th police state thse maniacs have created & refuse 2 see or take responisibility 4. once they suffer ofit then theydont wantit anymore.

[paisleyyama]

Oh I see now. Well I don`t know who is responsible for creating this sys. but I don`t think gays did. But I don`t think Christians & republicans are fully responsible either. Call me cynical but I think behind closed doors republican and democrat politicians often walk hand in hand so in a sense people left and right are responsible, but that is off topic from the video, but I do agree that a lot of ppl are responsible for making a bad system & generally don`t care until it effects them.

[poosaypirate]

eeeeeeeeeeeeeee.

no offence but for some one w/ your age & vocab you are suprisingly naive. yes, of cousre the dems have gotten far to republican since oh lets say JFK (and his assasination) and of course USA is owned and controlled by the world banks since 1913- when the uas currency was turned over to private banks bla bla bla. BUT its the extreme right that implements the Poilice state USA is now in & many of the "democrats" have to some how swallow that in order to, lets say, get elected.

[poosaypirate]

keyword; Nuremberg Trials

[iprazhm]

Homosexuals cannot reproduce within the confines of their unions. They recruit. Through use of our public domain they effectively desensitize. Here then, they recruit the desensitized and the morally bankrupt. From what I have seen in my home state of Fl and other extremely liberal states like Calif, Law Enforcement are some of the first to choose either bisexuality or homosexuality from continual exposure to this and other lewd and profane public behaviors. It no longer offends it tempts.

[poosaypirate]

manaiac

[iprazhm]

Nice debate...so typical of liberals, when they have no arguement, they issue insults and name call.

[poosaypirate]

Christians Recruit all the time, as well as terrorize and convert, the only difference is Christianity is a lifestyle of choice.

[poosaypirate]

actually old people and sterile people cannot reproduce either- why are they allowed to then marry. the bible says be fruitful and mulitply. bla lba lba

[iprazhm]

Homosexual activists work to force acceptance of their deviant behavior onto society through litigation, liberal media and irresponcible school administrations. Homosexuality has nothing to do with love. HOMO: Latin, human being, SEXUAL: Of, relating to, involving, or characteristic of sex, sexuality, the sexes, or the sex organs and their functions. Normal folks love their same sex friends without copulating with them.

[poosaypirate]

Religeon is a lifestyle of choice, not sexuality, Christianity is state sponsored terrorism. homophobia is classifed as a form of mental illness. creating laws against gay marrige or rights is state sponsored insanity and terrorism

[RDFG87]

You are so blind about being gay, if you think all gays are gay for sex only then there is no hope for you, ur mind is closed by belief. Hateing someone because there Homosexual is just as wrong if you hate them because there black or white. And Screw you for saying it's deviant behavior if anything is deviant it the oppresion of anyone diffrent from you.

[iprazhm]

I am anything but blind. The word homosexuality is based solely on ones chose of sex partner. Homo-A member of the genus Homo, which includes the extinct and extant species of humans.

Sexual-Of, relating to, involving, or characteristic of sex, sexuality, the sexes, or the sex organs and their functions.

Implying or symbolizing erotic desires or activity.Relating to, produced by, or involving reproduction characterized by the union of male and female gametes: sexual reproduction.

[iprazhm]

You are incorrect, I do not hate the person, I hate the perversion, or, the sin. Homosexuality is not a race so it is impossible to be racist against them as you compare them with skin color. This behavior is a deviant sexual act where one attaches themselves to inappropriate sexual acts. Homosexuality was removed from the APA list of sexual mental illnesses, not because it was no longer an illness but because a gay scientist rallied to have it removed.

[TAKEHEED1]

@RDFG87 Their not cursed of God because their FAGS, Their FAGS because they are cursed of God. God hates all workers of iniquity.

[RuhtW]

Pastor Mark and his church is also under attack from apparently the so-called 'Reverend' Barry Lynn of the TAX-EXEMPT 'Americans United for Separation of Church and State'...

[poosaypirate]

thats ok, Christianity is terrorism

[RuhtW]

... and the IRS, for Pastor Mark having engaged in 'political speech' in his church; the TAX-EXEMPT 'Americans United' organization apaparently trying to silence Pastor Mark's non-politically correct political speech or get Pastor Mark's church's tax-exempt church status taken away from them...

[RuhtW]

...In other words, Barry Lynn's own LEFTIST organization, which is STRICTLY POLITICAL and enjoys entire TAX-EXEMPTION, is going about trying to threaten anyone else's tax-exempt status that doesn't share the same leftist viewpoints as Barry Lynn's!

THIS IS OUTRAGEOUS, and definitely not equal justice under the law!

You won't hear the leftist media reporting this to you, however.

God bless,

Ruht

[Sweetglorray]

Don't forget the part about loving the sinner and hating the sin.

[RuhtW]

And this area where the pastor was arrested was long known in this country as belonging to the "Bible Belt." If this is the "Bible Belt," then this country doesn't have much time left if it continues down this wicked, abominable path.

The Lord is coming soon, and these type of things will only get worse for Christians while the world heads down this self-destructive path to its bitter end, as also prophesied in the Bible for the last days.

God bless.

Ruht

[Sweetglorray]

Hang in there Pastor Mark - God HAS YOUR BACK!

[RuhtW]

Apparently sodomites can express themselves and how they feel about sodomy on Wichita's public streets no matter how much it offends anyone else, but Christians cannot express how they feel about sodomy on Wichita's public streets if sodomites complain about it and if it offends a sodomite.

[RuhtW]

By the way, freedom of speech, freedom of religion and freedom to peaceably assemble are all directly mentioned in the Declaration of Independence, the Bill of Rights. Freedom of sodomy, however, is not, yet it was the pastor, not the sodomites, who were arrested. Apparently in Wichita, Christians are being denied their right to exercise their rights on publicly owned streets when sodomites complain about it.

[RuhtW]

Reminds me of communist countries. Our forefathers had a revolution because of things like this.

'Hope this church is successful in their lawsuit. These tyrants need to be lawfully stopped.

[RuhtW]

Long have these types of things been prophesied for the last days to happen against Christians:

"But take heed to yourselves: for they shall deliver you up to councils... and ye shall be brought before rulers for my sake, for a testimony against them." - Jesus Christ, Mark 13:9

[RuhtW]

Reminds me of communist countries. Our forefathers had a revolution because of things like this.

'Hope this church is successful in their lawsuit. These tyrants need to be lawfully stopped.

[RDFG87]

wow, just wow

[Brucev7]

@RuhtW America died a long time ago. The People allowed it to happen. 2Chr 7:14