That was pretty cool! In a perfect world, Gerry's shows would have been on a lot longer and there would have been many, many spin offs. Thanks for giving us a glimpse!
I doubt very much that Zero X would have ever cleared the runway, let alone get into space. Given that an aircraft generates lift from the curvature of the wings, with lifting body 1 being at right angles to the main body, I cannot see how during lift off how the craft would generate any lift at all. Especially when lift body 1 cannot sustain the spacecraft during re-entry on its own.
@dancpfc I've actually built a model of the Zero-X and I can assure you that the lifting body wings do have a curved upper surface. furthermore, the amount of lift from the bernoulli effect is actually quite small; most of the lift is generated by the airflow being deflected downwards by the lower surface of the wing and any flaps. The reason that the Zero-X crashed was because Lift Body 1 was only providing around 50% of the necessary lift, the balance being provided by Lift Body 2. .
@QuackVideo That I understand, my comment was derived from the position of Lift Body 1's wings during lift off. As you say lift is generated by the difference in air pressure between the surface and the bottom of the wing. My question is how can no. 1 generate the lift necessary for lift off, if the majority of the wing area is at right angles to the main body?
@dancpfc It is PRECISELY BECAUSE the wings are at right angles to the fuselage (and thuse the direction of motion of the vehicle through the air) that the lifting bodies generate lift. if they were aligned along the long axis, they would generate negligible amounts of lift
Whoever designed Zero X was very up on current technical research at that time. The technobabble of the crew fit totally with many concepts being investigated by BAC at the time. For example, the lift bodies have a total of 16 engines which equate to Rolls Royces concepts for turborockets, which are ramjets with a rocket powered turbine to produce power for take off. The turbine is switched off at mach1 and the engines run as ramjets up to mach 5. Zero X is a very viable concept.
I agree and that not the only crossover did you know Gordon from Thunderbirds served in the WASP for a time. through I got the information from a book about Thunderbirds/Stinray and Captain Scarletts so I know it isn't 100 per cent cannon but it a cool thought
@loonytunescrazy The Information was invented by the publishers of TV 21 in an attempt to tie together the various series into one cohesive 'Anderson Universe'
Thanks for correcting me it still pretty cool through. any know the name of the rouge state that opposed the world govement in Gerry Anderson comic veruse wiuch feature an intersting crossover with Thunderbirds/Stingray Ray/ Captain Scarlet and Fireball
Brilliant idea for a video, always got excited about the assembly of Zero-X! But does anyone think that its kinda weird how the small landing vehicle from Zero-X is seen in Captain Scarlet destroying the Mysteron complex which starts the 'war with Earth'? Gerry Anderson crossover there.
A friend of mine once called Gerry Anderson's works, "Eng.Porn". (Engineering) As in, "What could I do with lots of imagination, and a totally unlimited budget?"
I wonder how many kids from the 60's and 70's were inspired to become Engineers, thanks to Fireball XL5, Stingray, and Thunderbirds?
Thank you, Mr. Anderson! You made the world a better place.
It's a shame, there are no equivalent shows for kids today. 'Cause, a little brainwashing, isn't always a bad thing.
He really inspired me. Over time i realised how great an idea like the Zero x was. I have been designing a Zero x look-a-like. So far on the ground it weighs 2.72 megatons and in space after dropping the deadweight and using up its aeroplane fuel and rocket fuel it weighs 1.71 megatons. I am doing a HNC course in mechatronics at college. Gerry Anderson is awsome in his work.
@G777GUN = Well, good luck with that project. Still, I have to think that atmospheric, hyper-sonic docking, with the wing/engine modules, may not be the most elegant solution to that particular engineering challenge.
BTW, what fuels are you using? I ask because, even if you burned pure nitroglycerin, you still wouldn't archive Gerry Anderson levels of power. (AKA: The GAPUC, or, Gerry Anderson Power Utilization Curve.)
The wing/engine modules i will detach when my machine goes vertical and re attach in space. There is no way that thing could fly through the atmosphere without plunging like a brick.
Fuels, well:
My jet fuel to get me to 40,000ft (powers 16 PW4098) , my liquid fuel to get me to 820,000 ft and my special fuels for the VASIMR engine.
This is just to give me an idea of what is needed to pull off this project . My VASIMR must get me to mars then back again in under 30 days! thats fast!
Oh my word! My mum went to London to queue for hours to get me the Zero-X toy. I can't imagine how much it would be worth now if I hadn't sawn it up and spliced it with my Thunderbird toys to make my own spaceships ...
Hmm I remember this, as I recall Anderson did try to get the ball rolling for a series but no one was intreasted in spending the 1-2 million production costs
Gerry is still very much alive but the actual rights to 'Thunderbirds are Go' belong to MGM
The Rights to the TV series belong to Granada Media and it would cost an absolute fortune just to buy the rights to make a new series, let alone actually make the programme. Thats why we had 'New Captain Scarlet' rather than new episodes of the classic series
@QuackVideo But Derek Meddings is gone, and he designed many of the concepts seen in TB as well as most of the other Gerry & Sylvia Anderson projects, in addition to 70s Bond and Superman films. (also Batman and Pink Floyd concerts). Rest in Peace, Derek. Your ideas live on forever.
I'm sure Gerry is still with us as I've heard that he wants to buy back the rights to Thunderbirds to redo it in the same way as the New Captain Scarlet episodes.
In addition to videography, I'm also a keen modelmaker with a scratchbuilt model of the Zero-X to my credit. I calculated that it would be over 700 feet long with a wing span of 750 feet. I reckon it would fly, providing there was enough thrust
So did I but the biggest problem was trying to persuade Dad that i needed a hole in the bedroom floor so that thehangar door could descend properly :D
Oh to be ten again and living in 1966
malkaraatgw1 2 weeks ago
Burt Rutan to try something similar to get stuff into orbit.
RocketTCoyote 2 months ago
That was pretty cool! In a perfect world, Gerry's shows would have been on a lot longer and there would have been many, many spin offs. Thanks for giving us a glimpse!
zathras9now 7 months ago
@zathras9now You're most welcome :)
QuackVideo 7 months ago
@zathras9now You're most welcome
QuackVideo 7 months ago
Does this not remind you of the end of Lylat Wars? =]
neotees 7 months ago
I doubt very much that Zero X would have ever cleared the runway, let alone get into space. Given that an aircraft generates lift from the curvature of the wings, with lifting body 1 being at right angles to the main body, I cannot see how during lift off how the craft would generate any lift at all. Especially when lift body 1 cannot sustain the spacecraft during re-entry on its own.
Bloody good looking spacecraft though.
dancpfc 9 months ago
@dancpfc I've actually built a model of the Zero-X and I can assure you that the lifting body wings do have a curved upper surface. furthermore, the amount of lift from the bernoulli effect is actually quite small; most of the lift is generated by the airflow being deflected downwards by the lower surface of the wing and any flaps. The reason that the Zero-X crashed was because Lift Body 1 was only providing around 50% of the necessary lift, the balance being provided by Lift Body 2. .
QuackVideo 9 months ago
@QuackVideo That I understand, my comment was derived from the position of Lift Body 1's wings during lift off. As you say lift is generated by the difference in air pressure between the surface and the bottom of the wing. My question is how can no. 1 generate the lift necessary for lift off, if the majority of the wing area is at right angles to the main body?
dancpfc 9 months ago
@dancpfc It is PRECISELY BECAUSE the wings are at right angles to the fuselage (and thuse the direction of motion of the vehicle through the air) that the lifting bodies generate lift. if they were aligned along the long axis, they would generate negligible amounts of lift
QuackVideo 9 months ago
@dancpfc I doubt it would have got off the ground as well as there wouldn't have been anything to attach the strings to :D
ragerancher 4 months ago
Whoever designed Zero X was very up on current technical research at that time. The technobabble of the crew fit totally with many concepts being investigated by BAC at the time. For example, the lift bodies have a total of 16 engines which equate to Rolls Royces concepts for turborockets, which are ramjets with a rocket powered turbine to produce power for take off. The turbine is switched off at mach1 and the engines run as ramjets up to mach 5. Zero X is a very viable concept.
Alembic25 1 year ago
@Alembic25 That was Derek Meddings for you. He really knew his stuff
QuackVideo 1 year ago
@QuackVideo What was Derek Meddings's background? Did he have likes to the aerospace industry?
Alembic25 11 months ago
omg i'm gonna die from nostalgia overdose...
lydstyrke 1 year ago
@lydstyrke LOL!
humbleradio 8 months ago
Very nice - the original C21 comic stories would have made a really good series. Oh Gerry, what could have been...
Incidentally, where did you find the "clean" copy of the Zero X theme? I wasn't aware there had been a soundtrack of the original score recording.
PanpipeLover 1 year ago
@PanpipeLover Let's just say I have friends in low places...
QuackVideo 1 year ago
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I agree and that not the only crossover did you know Gordon from Thunderbirds served in the WASP for a time. through I got the information from a book about Thunderbirds/Stinray and Captain Scarletts so I know it isn't 100 per cent cannon but it a cool thought
loonytunescrazy 1 year ago
@loonytunescrazy The Information was invented by the publishers of TV 21 in an attempt to tie together the various series into one cohesive 'Anderson Universe'
QuackVideo 1 year ago
@QuackVideo
Thanks for correcting me it still pretty cool through. any know the name of the rouge state that opposed the world govement in Gerry Anderson comic veruse wiuch feature an intersting crossover with Thunderbirds/Stingray Ray/ Captain Scarlet and Fireball
loonytunescrazy 1 year ago
@loonytunescrazy Bereznik
QuackVideo 1 year ago
Brilliant idea for a video, always got excited about the assembly of Zero-X! But does anyone think that its kinda weird how the small landing vehicle from Zero-X is seen in Captain Scarlet destroying the Mysteron complex which starts the 'war with Earth'? Gerry Anderson crossover there.
Niall1991BRFC 1 year ago
i remember the assembly of the plane it amazed me
ApocalypticSniper 1 year ago
I absolutely love this - really cleverly edited. It looks totally authentic - if only it was! Great work.
Anomalocaris42 1 year ago
This is very good, it reminds me of the intro to Star Trek Voyager
Bladerunner93 2 years ago
A friend of mine once called Gerry Anderson's works, "Eng.Porn". (Engineering) As in, "What could I do with lots of imagination, and a totally unlimited budget?"
I wonder how many kids from the 60's and 70's were inspired to become Engineers, thanks to Fireball XL5, Stingray, and Thunderbirds?
Thank you, Mr. Anderson! You made the world a better place.
It's a shame, there are no equivalent shows for kids today. 'Cause, a little brainwashing, isn't always a bad thing.
skeilak 2 years ago
He really inspired me. Over time i realised how great an idea like the Zero x was. I have been designing a Zero x look-a-like. So far on the ground it weighs 2.72 megatons and in space after dropping the deadweight and using up its aeroplane fuel and rocket fuel it weighs 1.71 megatons. I am doing a HNC course in mechatronics at college. Gerry Anderson is awsome in his work.
G777GUN 2 years ago
@G777GUN = Well, good luck with that project. Still, I have to think that atmospheric, hyper-sonic docking, with the wing/engine modules, may not be the most elegant solution to that particular engineering challenge.
BTW, what fuels are you using? I ask because, even if you burned pure nitroglycerin, you still wouldn't archive Gerry Anderson levels of power. (AKA: The GAPUC, or, Gerry Anderson Power Utilization Curve.)
skeilak 2 years ago
The wing/engine modules i will detach when my machine goes vertical and re attach in space. There is no way that thing could fly through the atmosphere without plunging like a brick.
Fuels, well:
My jet fuel to get me to 40,000ft (powers 16 PW4098) , my liquid fuel to get me to 820,000 ft and my special fuels for the VASIMR engine.
This is just to give me an idea of what is needed to pull off this project . My VASIMR must get me to mars then back again in under 30 days! thats fast!
G777GUN 2 years ago
@skeilak
Behold. The New Zero X.
/watch?v=wligUSqgBEY
G777GUN 1 year ago
@G777GUN : Spectacular!
Very well done.
I recommend everyone take a look.
skeilak 1 year ago
@skeilak
Thats it dude. All 4 parts are now uploaded.
G777GUN 1 year ago
@G777GUN : Terrific!
I'll definitely check out parts 3 and 4. Then I'm sure I'll have some comments. (I've already got two questions in mind. *S*)
skeilak 1 year ago
I always loved this music. The sense of trepidation, exploration and epic machinery.
jimmicampkin 2 years ago 6
Anderson and his crew were so far ahead of the curve in aviation technology it was scary.
crispycritterz 2 years ago 3
Oh my word! My mum went to London to queue for hours to get me the Zero-X toy. I can't imagine how much it would be worth now if I hadn't sawn it up and spliced it with my Thunderbird toys to make my own spaceships ...
neuralwarp 2 years ago 2
so British,nice
lestube001 2 years ago 4
Hmm I remember this, as I recall Anderson did try to get the ball rolling for a series but no one was intreasted in spending the 1-2 million production costs
Maltray 2 years ago
The rock snakes of Mars could make a comeback! :3
teenageatheist 2 years ago 2
With enough thrust...
QuackVideo 2 years ago
Zero-X looks too heavy to ever take off! lol
IonicGell200 2 years ago 2
does too
mrbeanchannel 2 years ago
Well, ya know what they say, "if ya put enough thrust behind it, it'll fly."
TrainTrackTrav 2 years ago 2
I think you done a great job mate, and id think that Zero X would make a great spin off show.
coolcaveman 2 years ago 2
Gerry is still very much alive but the actual rights to 'Thunderbirds are Go' belong to MGM
The Rights to the TV series belong to Granada Media and it would cost an absolute fortune just to buy the rights to make a new series, let alone actually make the programme. Thats why we had 'New Captain Scarlet' rather than new episodes of the classic series
QuackVideo 2 years ago
@QuackVideo But Derek Meddings is gone, and he designed many of the concepts seen in TB as well as most of the other Gerry & Sylvia Anderson projects, in addition to 70s Bond and Superman films. (also Batman and Pink Floyd concerts). Rest in Peace, Derek. Your ideas live on forever.
humbleradio 8 months ago
I'm sure Gerry is still with us as I've heard that he wants to buy back the rights to Thunderbirds to redo it in the same way as the New Captain Scarlet episodes.
dancpfc 2 years ago
Could I use this idea and titles for my series?
williamshank 3 years ago
what series would that be?
QuackVideo 3 years ago
Zero X?
williamshank 3 years ago
Is it me or Does Zero X look a bit over engineered lol :P
dave41184 3 years ago
That is brilliant. Where did you get the instrumental theme from?
HarveytheCraneEngine 3 years ago 2
I have a friend who is custodian of the original tapes
QuackVideo 3 years ago
Clever. The assembling of Zero-X on the runway is still mesmerizing after all these years
SirBasildeBrush 3 years ago 3
Looking at this, I'm not sure Zero X would actually get off the ground!
j3pfilms 3 years ago
In addition to videography, I'm also a keen modelmaker with a scratchbuilt model of the Zero-X to my credit. I calculated that it would be over 700 feet long with a wing span of 750 feet. I reckon it would fly, providing there was enough thrust
QuackVideo 3 years ago
CCCOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!! Can we see some photos?
j3pfilms 3 years ago
It doesn't seem that the lifting bodys are that wide across.
dancpfc 3 years ago
From the drawings I have, yes, they are
QuackVideo 3 years ago
tradational rocket and jet technology could provide enough thrust, however the sheer volume of feul needed for that would make it nearly impossable
-you'll a more concetrated feul scource; like somehow controlling the output from an atomic bomb into a steady thrust.
realcelestialphoenix 3 years ago
Well, Captain Travers refers to something called an Arc-Jet engine which suggests some form of plasma drive
QuackVideo 3 years ago
awesome!
realcelestialphoenix 3 years ago 2
I had this on video and once attempted to make the Zero-X out of Lego. It almost worked, but the nose cone was too heavy!
dancpfc 3 years ago
So did I but the biggest problem was trying to persuade Dad that i needed a hole in the bedroom floor so that thehangar door could descend properly :D
QuackVideo 3 years ago
I remember reading it in TV21! What a spacecraft. Totally over the top! I loved it and still do.
Arcmate 3 years ago
I'm loving this. Great edit.
j3pfilms 3 years ago
thank you
QuackVideo 3 years ago