On The Beach Part 12

[RedJoe10]

There was a nuclear attack plan that had plans to attack non-combatants like Australia and South American and African countries to stop them gaining political dominance in the post-war age.

[joojoojuice]

@RedJoe10 we must not allow a GDP gap with the reds!... and australia

[wardenphil]

@RedJoe10 Where did you here this?

[RedJoe10]

@wardenphil It was in a book published by a group of scientists called 'Nuclear War: The Aftermath'. I think it was released in the early 1980s.

[anisete46]

In the original movie, there was a coke bottle and a window screen.....

[simplenametag]

There is a much better, much more realistic film about this called 'Threads'. But beware, its not for the weak of heart.

[krbosak]

The laptop battery should be depleted long time ago.

[croutonthegreat]

I don't get it. Did the journalist commit suicide? Was that a gov't-issued suicide kit she used? How'd she get one of those?

[v19d]

@croutonthegreat It looks like a suicide kit. There are Nuclear Targets in Alaska including near Anchorage. Also wind can float Northeast. I also would say this is fiction but in reality there are no suicide kits in the modern age.

[v19d]

Surprisingly China does a sneak attack and fooled the world and having the world believing America started first.

[v19d]

China Struck America First

[v19d]

I don't get why they didn't take back the DVD

[v19d]

@v19d That would end the mystery who struck first.

[tommy1973able]

look at this hollywood!why not use real actors more often in stead of those fucking models who get off being CELEBRITIES!

[georgel19841]

any electronics should not work becase of the bombs

[ObssesedNuker]

@georgel19841 Erm, no. Plenty of electronics are hardened against effects and EMP is a rather unreliable weapon, it will short out some stuff while leaving others of the same design alone.

What I am wondering is why Anchorage looks rather intact for a prime nuclear target.

[georgel19841]

@ObssesedNuker good point

[krbosak]

@ObssesedNuker "What I am wondering is why Anchorage looks rather intact for a prime nuclear target."

Maybe it was not as good as Toulon, Athens and Murmansk this time.

[musicalglenn]

it always comes back to this for me..if we dont wipe ouselves out through the crap we fill the air with or nuclear radiation,....we are sure to find some other way..wish i could speak better of mankind...but i just know it to well

[candr]

@musicalglenn We have had the ability for over 65 years and haven't done it yet, have a bit more faith ;)

[grooveclubhouse]

a book which is very similar to this is called "The Last Ship" by william brinkley. Its basically a USN destroyer in the same situation.

[agj9]

if its 150 rad, those suits wouldnt stop nothing, they would be dead by the time they got to shore.

[candr]

@agj9 I don't think so. ! rad is equal to 10 miligray or .01 rad. 150 rads is equal to 1.5 grey (Gy). the human body can take up to 5 grey (Gy) for a short period of time (about 10 to 30 hours) before death. With a suit they would be able to take quite a bit more then that.

[thegirl44]

Wait a minute here...Ecoterrorist biologists studying WHALES are issued vials of phenobarbitol just for shits and giggles and I'm given low grade sedatives to take down a charging sow coastal brown bear?

Fuck me, my profession has gotten fucked up.

[musicalglenn]

oh jesus...those last few seconds....oh god.....PLEASE dont let any part of this planet commence such a madness!! Peace and love to all nations and creeds

[TerryTuffCnt]

i watched this when was 6 and had chronic nightmares like i never even knew why its not incredibly scary infact its not scary at all but i am watching it to face my fears haha

[geoffck6969]

I thought they might find Sarah Palin gazing at Russia from here back porch. Too bad.

[HerrEllsworth]

@geoffck6969 At least that way she could flip them off.

[Hendo56]

Hmmm... she should be saying on the DVD "Don't despair. I've got something for you at last. The whales have survived"... the middle part of the message that the sub picked up is missing. Still a very harrowing scene...

[smarfiette]

The girl - just stunning! Her face, the pose - all. You can have nightmares for a very long time after seeing this...

[2242bzo]

Those two guys better hurry and bring that girl's body back to the ship, thaw it out, then give it to the crew to have sex with.

[senhuan]

That kid has teeth larger than a rabbit.

[wardenphil]

At 10:24, who would put a glass window in a bedroom door? This makes no sense to me.

[neemz2000]

Wouldn't EMP have burnt out the circuits on the equipment?

The full effects of EMP weren't as widely known when the original book was written.

[Watchyourselfz]

This movie is just fantastic

[GoldenBoughTrader]

@Watchyourselfz

Amazing. No CGI, car chases, or explosions. Yet far more powerful than your run of the mill Hollywood movie.

[soeffingwhat]

@GoldenBoughTrader - Every, and I mean EVERY World Leader should be made to watch Films like this, and those who are not touched by it should be removed from Office :-)

[soeffingwhat]

@GoldenBoughTrader - Yep, it makes a hell of an emotional impact.

[SpermCannon]

I think I would have started throwing shit being I just traveled that far for nothing.

[anisete46]

too bad the synchro is still off

[anisete46]

still a coke bottle in both versions, tv series and movie..

[wardenphil]

Yes, no pepsi or Royal Crown products discussed in the book or shown in either movie...I wonder if the producers had a licensing pact with the Coca Cola Company.

[anisete46]

LOL

[riceboy1701e]

There was a Coca Cola bottle discovered to be sending the random Morse code in the book. No disrespect to either Pepsi or Royal Crown was intended. It was just a Coke bottle.

For a more faithful book-to-movie rendition, watch the 1960s version with Gregory Peck and Ava Gardner. That version is, IMO, still the best portrayal of the book.

[anisete46]

@riceboy1701e I believe in the original movie it had something to do with Morse Code and a window blind...

[candr]

@anisete46  Yes the coke bottle got accidently hooked on the window shade cord when the wind blew it over durning a storm from the open window and fell over the Morse Code Key. When the wind blew through the window the bottle bobed up and down on the key at random times.

[anisete46]

@candr rather ironic, the coke bottle I mean :))... glad I remembered that detail from the original movie..

[anisete46]

In the Movie, what was it? A rod hitting a telegraph line I think?

[wardenphil]

In the 1959 version, a window was left open, allowing a roll-up windowshade to knock a coke bottle onto a telegraph key. By freak coincidence, the windowshade cord simultaneously caught on the key, creating a balance. Everytime the wind blew, the balance was upset, actuating the key.

[keyanage]

there is no chance of a solar panel that big powering a laptop through the light coming through a window

[wardenphil]

Certainly not now, but maybe in the future as power consumption decreases. There is precedent - compare the calculators 30 years ago with those today.

[keyanage]

that may be true however the most we can get from 1m square of sunlight is 1kw. considering it was also through a window & the panel was only a few centimeters big it is literally impossible. unless the laptop can run from a few watt

[wardenphil]

Just out of curiousisty, is that a hard limit of physics or is that the current state of the art?

[keyanage]

hi good question, it is hard limit of physics. In space you get 1.3kw & on earth you get max 1kw per square metre.

The maximum state of the art solar panels (like NASA made million dollar solar cells) on earth is roughly 33% efficient of that 1kw square metre.

(i study renewable energy in engineering at school)

[wardenphil]

Good Luck with your studies. I'm a EE too... I graduated in the late 80's.

[MisterChappyLemann]

whacky radsuits)

[anisete46]

any chance of a re syncronisation here?

[Binky40SW]

Disturbing depiction of the wife and kids dying in the nuke attack, but at least they were spared the horror of survival.

[fanarchy]

Nicely said, Professor Falken.

[Binky40SW]

It's a flawed depiciton of death by nuclear fireball, nevertheless. There would have been a blinding flash of white and then nothing. Or they would have been shredded by a shockwave moving at speeds close to the speed of sound.

There wouldn't have been much in the way of real pain, regardless.

[fanarchy]

I know, it was a joke. "Spared the horror of survival" was something Professor Falken in War Games.

[Binky40SW]

Classic movie. Wasn't one of Barry Corbins lines something like "GOD DAMMIT, I'D PISS ON A SPARK PLUG IF I THOUGHT IT'D DO ANY GOOD!"?

[mutulatu23]

Jesus, "War Games" how did you remember that! That was one of mine favorite movies when I was a kid playing with my ZX-Spectrum, God bless Sir Clive Sinclair! And Ally Sheedy was soooo cute, yam! I wish I could travel back in space-time in 1983, kidnap her, and bring her back to the future to show her my... umm... my new core-duo PC :P :P :P

[anisete46]

war games, one of the greatest films ever

[Felixuncia]

Blinky40SW said it was a flawed depiction of death by nuclear fireball.

That might be accurate if it was an actual depiction....but as it is Towers' vision, he can have it anyway he wants. His vision might be wrong but as far as the movie is concern, it's okay since visions don't have to follow accuracy rules.

[anisete46]

absolutely... it was death for his family as he imagined it... no one who actually saw a nuclear explosion close up survived....

[anisete46]

Professor Falken LOL

Man, was he sexy.....

[empire161]

Watching that woman on the seat, I had the feeling she was going to come to life at any minute, and start attacking them. Maybe I should stop watching films like Dawn of the Dead... ;)

[Triple88a]

2x, it did seem that way. damn resident evil movies man.

[anisete46]

works fine for me... maybe a temporary glitch?.. or else the bombs have fallen..

[NegaSado]

This part's broken! Any possibility on a fix?

[Triple88a]

its only broken for like 10 seconds. It gets back.. then the time for the video and sound is a bit off but no biggy.