Habla de un estado intemporal, sin embargo, hay un espacio, o espacios -mejor dicho-, en la memoria sobre ello; si no, no se hablaría de ese estado afirmando y negando lo que no es.
It is impossible to be "aware" without the recognition of thought and memory. If you are aware without the past then you see only dots and colors...there is not beauty since you need knowledge to say something is beautiful. It would be a state of amnesia.
There is nothing to see without memory and knowledge. Period. K is probably self deluded or a fraud.
there's a larger context. krishnamurti has talked aobut this to a large extent not apparrent in this particular video, which is but a tiny snippet. he is in no way implying that one become absent of all memories and conditioning literally (as in erased). he and Dr. Bohm have both discussed the apparrent reality that all aspects of thought have a place and function to serve.
abyssquick: I know he is not talking about amnesia...I am saying there is no other way not to be free of conditioning or memories or the past. there is no other instrument other than the brain or thought and that is a response based on the past always. I have seen his videos and read his books. he offers hope, that is an error. there is no way out....the desire to be free or/and unconditioned is a movement away from what is actual.
It is a false teaching and noone has got anything from it.
its not to say "peaceful and happy," those are words - abstractions - that we fix to some state we would like to experience. as long as we are seeking after "happiness" we will remain "unhappy." thought wishes to get out of it's own program and says that escape is happy, when in reality if it was to be free it couldn't say it was anything at all. it simly is. :P
happy menas-day after day you are renewing your being through training!peacful means that you train for peace adding day by day peace unto your being.because the main point in k is-without training nothing happens with training you grow.there is no possibiliry change with help of nice words but there is alwayes possibility to use training.training is to be more attentive than you are normally.that is only thing that matters otherwise you are playing with nice words:)
Maybe it's wrong to focus on the man not the message but K always dressed beautifully...always the best English tailors and shoes. He had style and charisma and that's why people were/are drawn to him.
So you are an outsider?... (that's also a group !). You feel you belong to the outsiders. You identify your self with an idea. Beeing an outsider makes you feel powerful, not manipulated, intelligent, free. The truth is that you are inside an illusion. Duality is an illusion. Outsider, insider-all that is just play of words!
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ennaurion 5 months ago
Habla de un estado intemporal, sin embargo, hay un espacio, o espacios -mejor dicho-, en la memoria sobre ello; si no, no se hablaría de ese estado afirmando y negando lo que no es.
ilusion40 3 years ago
It is impossible to be "aware" without the recognition of thought and memory. If you are aware without the past then you see only dots and colors...there is not beauty since you need knowledge to say something is beautiful. It would be a state of amnesia.
There is nothing to see without memory and knowledge. Period. K is probably self deluded or a fraud.
In his personal life, truth did not operate..
Epictetus2008 3 years ago
there's a larger context. krishnamurti has talked aobut this to a large extent not apparrent in this particular video, which is but a tiny snippet. he is in no way implying that one become absent of all memories and conditioning literally (as in erased). he and Dr. Bohm have both discussed the apparrent reality that all aspects of thought have a place and function to serve.
abyssquick 3 years ago
abyssquick: I know he is not talking about amnesia...I am saying there is no other way not to be free of conditioning or memories or the past. there is no other instrument other than the brain or thought and that is a response based on the past always. I have seen his videos and read his books. he offers hope, that is an error. there is no way out....the desire to be free or/and unconditioned is a movement away from what is actual.
It is a false teaching and noone has got anything from it.
Epictetus2008 3 years ago
watching this video is a result of dual confusion!!
188scarface 3 years ago
anyone who can understand the way he speaks and also could do that would live peaceful and happy life:)
supralee 4 years ago
its not to say "peaceful and happy," those are words - abstractions - that we fix to some state we would like to experience. as long as we are seeking after "happiness" we will remain "unhappy." thought wishes to get out of it's own program and says that escape is happy, when in reality if it was to be free it couldn't say it was anything at all. it simly is. :P
iaeruo 4 years ago
happy menas-day after day you are renewing your being through training!peacful means that you train for peace adding day by day peace unto your being.because the main point in k is-without training nothing happens with training you grow.there is no possibiliry change with help of nice words but there is alwayes possibility to use training.training is to be more attentive than you are normally.that is only thing that matters otherwise you are playing with nice words:)
supralee 4 years ago
gracias por estas perlas!
cecilof 4 years ago
Maybe it's wrong to focus on the man not the message but K always dressed beautifully...always the best English tailors and shoes. He had style and charisma and that's why people were/are drawn to him.
fadsandfancies 4 years ago
There is no intelligence without compassion! Asbolutely!
Julissa279 4 years ago 2
Gracias por traducir y subir!
AnandaShake 5 years ago
Monuril.. are you separating yourself?
AnandaShake 5 years ago
thanks for uploading...
lozafj 5 years ago
are you free of organization? are you free of a group? or would you like to belong to a group? are you an outsider? I am
Monuril 5 years ago
you are funny. outsider, insider-all that is just play of words!
supralee 4 years ago
yes, of course
Monuril 4 years ago
So you are an outsider?... (that's also a group !). You feel you belong to the outsiders. You identify your self with an idea. Beeing an outsider makes you feel powerful, not manipulated, intelligent, free. The truth is that you are inside an illusion. Duality is an illusion. Outsider, insider-all that is just play of words!
riotiticaca 4 years ago
lol
Monuril 4 years ago
interesting question.
trevcaru 5 years ago
hola men, buen video se agradece
mosawawawa 5 years ago