This might be "slower" but oh, the poetry in this. (Serkin plays this faster than a bat out of hell and it has its merits). But her Gilels is right in this piece. Watch how he grooves at the end (7.00)--wow, he is really jiving with this. The great thing about music and artists is that there can be many different intepretations!
I'll never understand why Gilels falls under the radar. It may have something to do with modesty. After his New York debut, Gilels reportedly told the press that he was nothing compared to Richter. Richter may have been more technically proficient, but his sound pales in comparison to that of Gilels. I'll probably get hammered for writing this, but I can cite example after example...
well me too I think the tempo gilels take here is nearly andante and goes quite far avay from schumanns intentions. nevertheless gilels is a great musician with a beautiful sound and strong power too. Gave up here the virtuosity of the earlier years. When finally he could travel more outside russia his virtuous period was nearly already over.
it can be distinguished in this 1st movement 4 interconnected parts which resembles the 4 movements of a symphony, crowned by an axtraordinary cadenza by the soloist, Schumann himself said "there's something here between the cconcert, the symphony and the great sonata". Gilels as always excellent, though I prefer his performances of Beethoven. let us remember he died in Moscow in 1985 at the age of 69. He was born in Odessa, in Ucrania
@Desmonddd2002 How DARE you....I ask how DARE you to mention the name of that half literate, amateur, houswife right next to a genius? Are you out of your mind?
@musiccritic1910 yeah wen I listen to it now (note that the comment is posted 2 years ago) i prefer this version too. However, Agerich was a really really brilliant piano player. almost certainly better then you. so stop being so sexist and disrespectful.
@Desmonddd2002 Excuse me, did I say that my opinion is based on the gender of the pianists? Don't make assumptions on non credible premises, dear. As far as Agerig, I can hear that her tempo is vulgar and inappropriate as if she i splaying jazz in the bar but not Schumann. Art is the feeling of the measure. She evidently lacks one.
@musiccritic1910 I agree that art is a feeling of the measure, where it is mostly pragmatic and innate feelings. Therefore, it is easy to see that different people arrive to different conclusion and different personal tastes are derived. Therefore its unwise and even unnecessary to personal attack a world renowned pianist. And by no means she's a half literate and amateur piano player.
@Desmonddd2002 Excuse me, did I say that my opinion is based on the gender of the pianists? Don't make assumptions on non credible premises, dear. As far as Agerig, I can hear that her tempo is vulgar and inappropriate as if she i splaying jazz in the bar but not Schumann. Art is the feeling of the measure. She evidently lacks one.
@Desmonddd2002 Also, you don't have to be pianist to judge the pianists....following your logic doctors would never could assess and treat the diseases since they have never had all of the diseases they cure for. All you have to have is taste and feeling of music based on cultural development. That is all...but, frankly, it is innate not learned.
@musiccritic1910 Ur use of a logic doctor as the example to convince is really interesting. The fact that they have studied many scenarios, case studies, and research have convinced me that they are able to treat the diseases they cure. They also show this by giving constructive, elaborated and specific instructions in how you can improve from ur illness. However, based on ur comment alone, without other factors, u have given neither constructive nor specific comments but personal attacks.
Hi! Would it be possible to post movement 2? This is Just as amazing as cortot's performance! The amount of variety in there at the slightest variations..... all too captivating.!!! Thank you so so so so much for this treasure!!!!
Gilels takes a slower tempo than we usually see in this movement, but there is more poetry and expression put into work. There's always so much argument about which pianist is "better", but its important to remember that classical music is all about interpretation--an interpretation by any good musician is never "bad", it's just different. If the performance is not to your liking, just accept instead of insult.
Both Gilels and Richter are ranked in the top 10 pianists of the 20th Century. They are both great and adorable. Mr. Gilels is known to be more consistent with his concert engagements while Mr. Richter is more temperamental.
What an angelic version of the famous Schumann: I was listening to it with tears in my eyes! I am sooo sorry that Richter overshadowed all these so much more talented artists. People like Gilels, Ginzburg and many others who were opressed by Mr. R, had an adorable personality and stage presence. Sigh...
What I posted was my very personal opinion, experience and preference. We like some people and dislike others for certain qualities. Well, Gilels was a very nice person while Richter a stuck up which is reflected in his playing. As a concert pianist, in this business I REALLY prefer the artists who aren't like Richter or Rostropovich-a big ego!. Got to have a wonderful people's personality-otherwise their art is useless.
I don't know what made you decided that Gilels is "overshadowed" by Richter: his DG recordings of Beethoven, Brahms, Grieg etc consistently rank among the finest of the century, and every reference site on the web will tell you that he's one of the greatest pianists in history. musically he was a relatively slow developer, and reached his creative peak (1960s till his premature demise) long after he became famous, unlike Richter who was at his best as early as the 1950s
the truth is that the Soviet pianists of that generation (Flier, Zak, Oborin, Sofrnonistsky, Ginzburg, Tamarkina, Grinberg etc) were completely overshadowed by Gilels and Richter, at least beyond the Iron Curtain, and rightly so. the one who currently enjoys a degree of rediscovery is Yudina, who was a truly idiosyncratic genius
finally, it is common knowledge that Gilels' ego was enormous. so there...
This might be "slower" but oh, the poetry in this. (Serkin plays this faster than a bat out of hell and it has its merits). But her Gilels is right in this piece. Watch how he grooves at the end (7.00)--wow, he is really jiving with this. The great thing about music and artists is that there can be many different intepretations!
rrickarr 9 months ago
Love how he has the time to rake his hair back at 4:35. Class
twintam92 10 months ago
where the fuck is the second movement?!
no offence just a bit pissed off.
and why the hell there is no audio recording of this performance on Amazone?!
amirmot 1 year ago
Gilels > Richter
I'll never understand why Gilels falls under the radar. It may have something to do with modesty. After his New York debut, Gilels reportedly told the press that he was nothing compared to Richter. Richter may have been more technically proficient, but his sound pales in comparison to that of Gilels. I'll probably get hammered for writing this, but I can cite example after example...
bernie10025 1 year ago 3
wonderful version; thanks
julesdarwich 2 years ago
well me too I think the tempo gilels take here is nearly andante and goes quite far avay from schumanns intentions. nevertheless gilels is a great musician with a beautiful sound and strong power too. Gave up here the virtuosity of the earlier years. When finally he could travel more outside russia his virtuous period was nearly already over.
uhartchristian 2 years ago
is one of the best performances I ever heard. The choice of time is great, allowing all voices to speak at its best, the result is pure poetry ...
mtcalapso 2 years ago 4
it can be distinguished in this 1st movement 4 interconnected parts which resembles the 4 movements of a symphony, crowned by an axtraordinary cadenza by the soloist, Schumann himself said "there's something here between the cconcert, the symphony and the great sonata". Gilels as always excellent, though I prefer his performances of Beethoven. let us remember he died in Moscow in 1985 at the age of 69. He was born in Odessa, in Ucrania
beethomozart 2 years ago
I think he did great in expressing these sexy tunes of Schumann.....
How ever I prefer the argerich version:)
Desmonddd2002 2 years ago
@Desmonddd2002 How DARE you....I ask how DARE you to mention the name of that half literate, amateur, houswife right next to a genius? Are you out of your mind?
musiccritic1910 4 months ago
@musiccritic1910 yeah wen I listen to it now (note that the comment is posted 2 years ago) i prefer this version too. However, Agerich was a really really brilliant piano player. almost certainly better then you. so stop being so sexist and disrespectful.
Desmonddd2002 4 months ago
@Desmonddd2002 Excuse me, did I say that my opinion is based on the gender of the pianists? Don't make assumptions on non credible premises, dear. As far as Agerig, I can hear that her tempo is vulgar and inappropriate as if she i splaying jazz in the bar but not Schumann. Art is the feeling of the measure. She evidently lacks one.
musiccritic1910 4 months ago
@musiccritic1910 I agree that art is a feeling of the measure, where it is mostly pragmatic and innate feelings. Therefore, it is easy to see that different people arrive to different conclusion and different personal tastes are derived. Therefore its unwise and even unnecessary to personal attack a world renowned pianist. And by no means she's a half literate and amateur piano player.
Desmonddd2002 3 months ago
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@Desmonddd2002 Excuse me, did I say that my opinion is based on the gender of the pianists? Don't make assumptions on non credible premises, dear. As far as Agerig, I can hear that her tempo is vulgar and inappropriate as if she i splaying jazz in the bar but not Schumann. Art is the feeling of the measure. She evidently lacks one.
musiccritic1910 4 months ago
@Desmonddd2002 Also, you don't have to be pianist to judge the pianists....following your logic doctors would never could assess and treat the diseases since they have never had all of the diseases they cure for. All you have to have is taste and feeling of music based on cultural development. That is all...but, frankly, it is innate not learned.
musiccritic1910 4 months ago
@musiccritic1910 Ur use of a logic doctor as the example to convince is really interesting. The fact that they have studied many scenarios, case studies, and research have convinced me that they are able to treat the diseases they cure. They also show this by giving constructive, elaborated and specific instructions in how you can improve from ur illness. However, based on ur comment alone, without other factors, u have given neither constructive nor specific comments but personal attacks.
Desmonddd2002 3 months ago
Hi! Would it be possible to post movement 2? This is Just as amazing as cortot's performance! The amount of variety in there at the slightest variations..... all too captivating.!!! Thank you so so so so much for this treasure!!!!
alexongcs 2 years ago
what year was this from?
fsharpminor63 3 years ago
Gilels takes a slower tempo than we usually see in this movement, but there is more poetry and expression put into work. There's always so much argument about which pianist is "better", but its important to remember that classical music is all about interpretation--an interpretation by any good musician is never "bad", it's just different. If the performance is not to your liking, just accept instead of insult.
Scherzo567 3 years ago 18
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After two minutes I fell asleep - a real largo affetuoso.
jonahvie 3 years ago
why don't you turn up the volume? If you do that, his golden tone is IMMEDIATELY obvious.
mathpianist93 3 years ago 7
Both Gilels and Richter are ranked in the top 10 pianists of the 20th Century. They are both great and adorable. Mr. Gilels is known to be more consistent with his concert engagements while Mr. Richter is more temperamental.
belibeam 3 years ago 2
What an angelic version of the famous Schumann: I was listening to it with tears in my eyes! I am sooo sorry that Richter overshadowed all these so much more talented artists. People like Gilels, Ginzburg and many others who were opressed by Mr. R, had an adorable personality and stage presence. Sigh...
ayazrafak 3 years ago
While the pianists you´ve mentioned were great in their own right NO MERE MORTAL could
claim to be more talented than Richter!!
vova47 3 years ago
What I posted was my very personal opinion, experience and preference. We like some people and dislike others for certain qualities. Well, Gilels was a very nice person while Richter a stuck up which is reflected in his playing. As a concert pianist, in this business I REALLY prefer the artists who aren't like Richter or Rostropovich-a big ego!. Got to have a wonderful people's personality-otherwise their art is useless.
ayazrafak 3 years ago
I don't know what made you decided that Gilels is "overshadowed" by Richter: his DG recordings of Beethoven, Brahms, Grieg etc consistently rank among the finest of the century, and every reference site on the web will tell you that he's one of the greatest pianists in history. musically he was a relatively slow developer, and reached his creative peak (1960s till his premature demise) long after he became famous, unlike Richter who was at his best as early as the 1950s
amyparking 3 years ago 3
the truth is that the Soviet pianists of that generation (Flier, Zak, Oborin, Sofrnonistsky, Ginzburg, Tamarkina, Grinberg etc) were completely overshadowed by Gilels and Richter, at least beyond the Iron Curtain, and rightly so. the one who currently enjoys a degree of rediscovery is Yudina, who was a truly idiosyncratic genius
finally, it is common knowledge that Gilels' ego was enormous. so there...
amyparking 3 years ago
ya i think gilels is up with richter. i mean, his beethoven sonatas are impeccable in my opinion.
and my favorite version of this concerto is neither gilels' nor richter's, but in fact argerich's!
however, gilels and richter (and argerich for that matter) are truly amazing
OrangeSodaKing 3 years ago
He is just great. I think one can 'disagree' about his interpretation only if one can not only talk but show at the piano what is 'better' etc.
DorianGray2005 4 years ago
I wish I had seen him play LIVE.
ahlan3g 4 years ago
I love his body language
ahlan3g 4 years ago
I agree.His Nachtstuke are fabulous
chad410 4 years ago
*sigh*
4444matthew4444 4 years ago