Well, a disease could theoretically exist that is more prevalent in straights -- would that then make straight sex wrong? It's not technically gay people's fault that AIDS exists, so while it may be technically PRACTICAL for homosexual men to deny their urges, or other adherence to traditional morality, the "disease" angle is still not a great intellectual argument.
Gays have a right to be gay. However, they don't have a right to destroy the tradition of the other 97% of the population.
So then why don't we pass a federal law against Las Vegas and their drive thru weddings? The sanctity of marriage argument is about as valid as the AIDS argument. We need to allow them to get marriage contracts then so to the government they are the same legal status as married and entitled to the same shit but they won't "ruin the sanctity of your marriage" by actually getting married in a church the same way you want to.
gays account for about 2% of our population and 82% of HIV cases...yeah lets all support that behavior...they are equal to straights, no difference except for the sex as bekkers29 put it, lets all be gays and get AIDS
Wouldn't that work better for homophobes? They're killing themselves off in that case, and they have no way to spread it to the straight population unless it's some drug addicts sharing needs.
I'm sorry but I have to say this one last thing! bekkers29, you gave me the biggest laugh of my day with this statement, "I have known many gay couples, and there really is NO difference between gay and straight relationships, except for the actual sex." If you don't see a difference between heterosexual couples and homosexual couples, "except for the actual sex," your as stupid as you are naive! Man-man or woman-woman is NOT equal to man-woman! What did they teach you in school!!??
No, I simply have a considerably broader world view than you do. You think I am stupid and naive, while I think you are ignorant and dismissive of anything outside your own limited world view. How many gay couples have you known in your life? I have known at least as many gay couples as I have straight couples, so what I am saying comes from a voice of experience, rather than a voice of assumption and judgment. And, since you ask, I was taught to think for myself in school.
"I have known at least as many gay couples as I have straight couples"
so that means that you probably have know more gay couples than straight ones...you have a sad existence on this earth, you surround yourself with the skid marks of societies underpants
I stand corrected. Not just a bigot, but also a startlingly insulting, judgmental jackass. And as I've been happily married for the past 13 years, I don't think an AIDS test is necessary, but thank you SO much for your concern.
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Seriously, you people already have the same rights as heterosexual couples! Give it a rest, already! You are only making things worse for yourselves! Marriage is NOT a right! It is a PRIVILEGE! If you think you are going to get any ADDED rights by having same sex marriage legalized by the state, you're wrong! The Defense of Marriage Act of 1996 by the U.S. Congress, means the feds recognize only heterosexual marriages!
Apparently YOU'VE never been discriminated against. You say asking for equal representation under the law is making things worse for ourselves? Change is coming whether you like it or not.
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Okay Gavin Newsome! That's the EXACT thing that totally turned me off when it came to the LGBT movement! That one arrogant statement from a man who thinks he's God! That and the fact that the B in LGBT stands for bisexuals! What will you want next? Multiple partner unions? How about the pediphiles who say they were born that way? I'm sorry but I am not going to allow you to shut down our religious rights to further your cause! Marriage is not a protected right! Religious beliefs ARE!
You seem to be very angry and hateful. I don't know how old you are, but I hope you don't pass on such hatred to your children, it will only make there lives less rich and fulfilling. I was raised in a Christian home and I am glad for the love and support my family & friends from all faiths have given me. My GOD is about LOVE. I don't know about yours.
Where do you see any hatred in any of what I have stated? I don't agree with homosexuals calling their unions marriage but that does not mean I "hate" anyone! As for passing things on to my children, my son makes up his own mind what he wants to do and he knows me well enough to know I don't have a hateful bone in my body. As a Christian, I feel compelled to protect the sanctity of "holy matrimony" as God intended it to be and this is the last vestige left to it, thanks to no fault divorce!
Jesus taught us to hate the sin but love the sinner! He also said that those who turn a blind eye to the sin (or do nothing to inform those who sin) are just as guilty of that sin!
Jesus taught us to love the sinner but hate the sin. He also said that those who turn a blind eye to sin (or do not inform the sinner) are just as guilty of that sin! If you are turning a blind eye to the sin(s) of others without letting them know they are sinning or you are condoning their sins then you will be judged by God for it! Good luck with that!
Great, you do that. Where did Jesus tell you to deny people civil rights because you disagree with their behavior? I think gays know exactly what a large portion of Christian community think of them. You don't have to take away their rights for them to know that you disapprove.
And YOU apparently aren't understanding what I am saying! I have no issue with a same-sex union! What I DO have an issue with is them wanting it to be called "marriage," which is equivalent to "holy matrimony," as far as I am concerned. They can have their civil unions or domestic partnerships but, when you enter in to the realm of "marriage," you are allowing them to walk in to a church and DEMAND that the minister perform a wedding ceremony for them! That's ALL I disagree with! PERIOD!
Continued.... If they can GUARANTEE that NOT ONE OF THEM will take away my rights in MY house of worship, that would be the ONLY way I would accept their "unions" as marriage. The problem is, they CAN'T guarantee anything because there are those in Massachussetts who are ALREADY shutting down religious adoption agencies because they won't allow same-sex couples to adopt from them. Ministers are losing their licenses and tax exempt status for refusing to perform ceremonies for same-sex couples!
No church can ever be forced to perform a marriage for any two people, even heterosexual couples. So that argument is ridiculous. I will have to look into what you are saying about MA, but it sounds illegal to me. And saying that they can have something like marriage, but it can't be called marriage? There's a term for that, it's called Separate but equal, which was already shown to be unconstitutional. Except it's not even like that. This is separate and INequal.
Churches ARE having problems, bekkers29! Look it up, if you don't believe it! A Catholic adoption agency in Massachussetts was shut down for refusing to allow same-sex couples to adopt through them. A father was arrested for removing his first grader from a class where they were teaching about same-sex marriage. This is the last I will say because you have been brainwashed! I don't give a rat's patoot what you think of me because it is God I have to answer to! Good luck when YOU get there!
And it is NOT a RIGHT! Where do you get that it is a right to be married?? It is not stated or even implied in any of our original documents! Not even in any of the amendments to the Constitution! I am still trying to figure out how ANYONE could equate a man-man or woman-woman relationship with a man-woman relationship! They're not even CLOSE to being equal! An equality issue would be their nationality or the color of their skin. The sex of their partner is NOT an equality issue!
All of that is just your opinion, just as what I have said is mine, but I consider getting married as part of our rights as human beings. It gives our relationships a legitimacy in the eyes of our peers, and joy that we're promising forever. I've been married to my husband over 12 years, and I can't imagine what I'd have done if someone told me I couldn't marry him. I have known many gay couples, and there really is NO difference between gay and straight relationships, except for the actual sex.
no difference aside from the sex? does "aside from the sex" include AIDS? because gays get A LOT more of that than straights...educate yourself on the homosexual lifestyle and perverse things they do to contract these diseases, if it was a casual bj here and there it would be a problem
What you happen to consider perverse is hardly my concern. I was simply saying that a committed gay relationship is really no different than a committed heterosexual relationship.
and a committed gay relationship is few and far between, the reality is that homosexuals share many partners and engage in sexual acts which spread HIV, you see they have broken down the idea of a committed relationship, to gays love is love, no matter what shape or form
And that is a stereotype, and not actually true. How many gay people do you actually know and interact with on a daily basis? Of all the gay people I've been friends with in my life, I've known maybe TWO guys who engaged in that sort of behavior. The other gay men and women I know WANT to be in committed, monogamous relationships.
Also, I don't think that, just because it isn't a constitutionally guaranteed right, doesn't mean it's not a human right. Our constitution was made to be fluid for just that reason.
By the way, try having a friend die of AIDS because her husband slept with men behind her back and didn't have the guts to tell her until it was too late! All because "it's okay to do these things" because "we aren't hurting anyone!" Right?? Yeah... I gotcha! It's all about satisfying the need when you have it! Good luck with that! I'm sure you will enjoy the days/nights of unending pain or the drugs you have to take because someone wasn't honest with you about the HIV status!
Nice try, but cheating on a spouse is inherently hurting them. So whether that man had slept with a man or with another woman, he WAS hurting his wife. And I can't imagine anyone would say otherwise.
What about the gays who ENCOURAGED the married man to "cheat" on his wife with them? Do they get a pass because, after all, it was HIS fault? I have listened to conversations between gay men at work; "Oh! Give me five minutes alone with him and I'll turn him in a heartbeat!" I thought you didn't TURN gay!
What I was saying is that whether the married man cheated with a man or a woman made absolutely no difference. But yeah, the married person who made is promise to forsake all others is definitely the party who is most in the wrong in that scenario.
And as for your other comment, all I have to say is wow, have you never heard of water cooler talk? What you described is called joking, my dear.
You do know that we have laws against mixing religion and government in this country, right? No one is trying to shut down your religious rights, but you do not have the right to deny others civil rights because they are against your personal religious beliefs.
Show me where it says in the U.S. Constitution or ANY of its Amendments that the church is manditorily supposed to be separated from government! It does not say that in ANY of our founding documents. The First Amendment of the U.S. Constitutions states, "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;..." Simply put, our government can't create national religion nor can they interfere with our freedom to worship.
It's implied by the US Constitution; it's simply one of the many things that are considered implied, if not outright stated by the Constitution. Simply put, this country was never intended to be a Theocracy, so discrimination based on a religious belief, to me, is simply inappropriate.
It is NOT implied anywhere in the U.S. Constitution! The ONLY thing it says is that "Congress shall make no law...." and how many laws have they made that deny me MY rights as a Christian to worship as I see fit!!?? While you scream for your so-called rights (which are NOT rights but merely privileges), the government is seeing fit to take MINE away! Yes, it is happening! They are shutting down religious adoption agencies in Massachussetts for refusing to allow same-sex couples to adopt!
AND.... marriage is NOT a protected right but it is a privilege granted to heterosexual couples by the church and by our government! Oh! What's that you say? The government didn't grant that privilege to heterosexual couples!? Look up the Defense of Marriage Act of 1996 that was enacted by probably YOUR favorite president, Bill Clinton, if you don't believe it! It states that the federal government will recognize ONLY marriage between a man and a woman!
I really wouldn't care if it had been my best friend that enacted the Defense of Marriage Act, I would still consider the person to be a bigot. The beliefs of the people that I admire (and no, I am not saying that I admire Bill Clinton) have absolutely no effect on my personal beliefs, rather their beliefs affect only my opinions of them.
You SO need to go back and read the New Testament. Really. Wishing a disease on someone just because they disagree with you? VERY Christian. You should be ashamed of yourself.
You're not wrong! What was really interesting, though, about someone hoping that I'd get AIDS from a sexual partner who was dishonest with me is that I've only had one parter in my life, and I know beyond a shadow of a doubt that my husband will never cheat on me.
I wish it on no one because I have seen what it can do. When I said "you," it was meant in the collective sense. Nobody knows for sure what their "partner" is going to do and, thanks to the liberal beliefs being bandied about these days, you can't REALLY trust anyone. I learned that by watching a friend die from AIDS, thanks to her "trusted" husband! She never had a clue because he was so loving and "responsible" toward her! Then, out of the blue, she started getting sick and he confessed!
Yet another instance of this Gwynevar retard cutting and pasting the very same comment on EVERY Prop 8 video on YouTube! Get an original thought and an ability to change up the words a bit!
Well, a disease could theoretically exist that is more prevalent in straights -- would that then make straight sex wrong? It's not technically gay people's fault that AIDS exists, so while it may be technically PRACTICAL for homosexual men to deny their urges, or other adherence to traditional morality, the "disease" angle is still not a great intellectual argument.
Gays have a right to be gay. However, they don't have a right to destroy the tradition of the other 97% of the population.
MazeleyFanClub 2 years ago
So then why don't we pass a federal law against Las Vegas and their drive thru weddings? The sanctity of marriage argument is about as valid as the AIDS argument. We need to allow them to get marriage contracts then so to the government they are the same legal status as married and entitled to the same shit but they won't "ruin the sanctity of your marriage" by actually getting married in a church the same way you want to.
truthseek18 2 years ago
gays account for about 2% of our population and 82% of HIV cases...yeah lets all support that behavior...they are equal to straights, no difference except for the sex as bekkers29 put it, lets all be gays and get AIDS
yury2268 2 years ago
Wouldn't that work better for homophobes? They're killing themselves off in that case, and they have no way to spread it to the straight population unless it's some drug addicts sharing needs.
truthseek18 2 years ago
I'm the kid in the red pants with the black backpack at both 0:22 and 0:46. :)
This is was an awesome protest. Repeal Prop 8! Equality For All! :)
Bralex94 2 years ago
I'm sorry but I have to say this one last thing! bekkers29, you gave me the biggest laugh of my day with this statement, "I have known many gay couples, and there really is NO difference between gay and straight relationships, except for the actual sex." If you don't see a difference between heterosexual couples and homosexual couples, "except for the actual sex," your as stupid as you are naive! Man-man or woman-woman is NOT equal to man-woman! What did they teach you in school!!??
Gwynevar 3 years ago
No, I simply have a considerably broader world view than you do. You think I am stupid and naive, while I think you are ignorant and dismissive of anything outside your own limited world view. How many gay couples have you known in your life? I have known at least as many gay couples as I have straight couples, so what I am saying comes from a voice of experience, rather than a voice of assumption and judgment. And, since you ask, I was taught to think for myself in school.
bekkers29 3 years ago
"I have known at least as many gay couples as I have straight couples"
so that means that you probably have know more gay couples than straight ones...you have a sad existence on this earth, you surround yourself with the skid marks of societies underpants
yury2268 2 years ago
Or possibly I'm simply not a bigot, as you clearly are.
beckychan01 2 years ago
are you the same person I replied to? anyways go get yourself tested for AIDS because you seem to assoiciate yourself around the virus a lot
yury2268 2 years ago
I stand corrected. Not just a bigot, but also a startlingly insulting, judgmental jackass. And as I've been happily married for the past 13 years, I don't think an AIDS test is necessary, but thank you SO much for your concern.
beckychan01 2 years ago
Yury2268..... you and your kind is a disease much like the AIDS virus. Too bad there isn't a test for stupid. My guess is you'd test positive.
darchib 2 years ago
Hey Hey.. Ho Ho... Homophobia's got to go!!!
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brewster8869 3 years ago
You got that right !!!
rtodm 3 years ago 2
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Seriously, you people already have the same rights as heterosexual couples! Give it a rest, already! You are only making things worse for yourselves! Marriage is NOT a right! It is a PRIVILEGE! If you think you are going to get any ADDED rights by having same sex marriage legalized by the state, you're wrong! The Defense of Marriage Act of 1996 by the U.S. Congress, means the feds recognize only heterosexual marriages!
Gwynevar 3 years ago
Apparently YOU'VE never been discriminated against. You say asking for equal representation under the law is making things worse for ourselves? Change is coming whether you like it or not.
rtodm 3 years ago 7
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Okay Gavin Newsome! That's the EXACT thing that totally turned me off when it came to the LGBT movement! That one arrogant statement from a man who thinks he's God! That and the fact that the B in LGBT stands for bisexuals! What will you want next? Multiple partner unions? How about the pediphiles who say they were born that way? I'm sorry but I am not going to allow you to shut down our religious rights to further your cause! Marriage is not a protected right! Religious beliefs ARE!
Gwynevar 3 years ago
You seem to be very angry and hateful. I don't know how old you are, but I hope you don't pass on such hatred to your children, it will only make there lives less rich and fulfilling. I was raised in a Christian home and I am glad for the love and support my family & friends from all faiths have given me. My GOD is about LOVE. I don't know about yours.
rtodm 3 years ago 3
Where do you see any hatred in any of what I have stated? I don't agree with homosexuals calling their unions marriage but that does not mean I "hate" anyone! As for passing things on to my children, my son makes up his own mind what he wants to do and he knows me well enough to know I don't have a hateful bone in my body. As a Christian, I feel compelled to protect the sanctity of "holy matrimony" as God intended it to be and this is the last vestige left to it, thanks to no fault divorce!
Gwynevar 3 years ago
As a Christian, I defy you to reconcile that with the admonition to do unto others as you would have them do unto you.
bekkers29 3 years ago
Jesus taught us to hate the sin but love the sinner! He also said that those who turn a blind eye to the sin (or do nothing to inform those who sin) are just as guilty of that sin!
Gwynevar 3 years ago
Jesus taught us to love the sinner but hate the sin. He also said that those who turn a blind eye to sin (or do not inform the sinner) are just as guilty of that sin! If you are turning a blind eye to the sin(s) of others without letting them know they are sinning or you are condoning their sins then you will be judged by God for it! Good luck with that!
Gwynevar 3 years ago
Great, you do that. Where did Jesus tell you to deny people civil rights because you disagree with their behavior? I think gays know exactly what a large portion of Christian community think of them. You don't have to take away their rights for them to know that you disapprove.
bekkers29 3 years ago
And YOU apparently aren't understanding what I am saying! I have no issue with a same-sex union! What I DO have an issue with is them wanting it to be called "marriage," which is equivalent to "holy matrimony," as far as I am concerned. They can have their civil unions or domestic partnerships but, when you enter in to the realm of "marriage," you are allowing them to walk in to a church and DEMAND that the minister perform a wedding ceremony for them! That's ALL I disagree with! PERIOD!
Gwynevar 3 years ago
Continued.... If they can GUARANTEE that NOT ONE OF THEM will take away my rights in MY house of worship, that would be the ONLY way I would accept their "unions" as marriage. The problem is, they CAN'T guarantee anything because there are those in Massachussetts who are ALREADY shutting down religious adoption agencies because they won't allow same-sex couples to adopt from them. Ministers are losing their licenses and tax exempt status for refusing to perform ceremonies for same-sex couples!
Gwynevar 3 years ago
No church can ever be forced to perform a marriage for any two people, even heterosexual couples. So that argument is ridiculous. I will have to look into what you are saying about MA, but it sounds illegal to me. And saying that they can have something like marriage, but it can't be called marriage? There's a term for that, it's called Separate but equal, which was already shown to be unconstitutional. Except it's not even like that. This is separate and INequal.
bekkers29 3 years ago
Churches ARE having problems, bekkers29! Look it up, if you don't believe it! A Catholic adoption agency in Massachussetts was shut down for refusing to allow same-sex couples to adopt through them. A father was arrested for removing his first grader from a class where they were teaching about same-sex marriage. This is the last I will say because you have been brainwashed! I don't give a rat's patoot what you think of me because it is God I have to answer to! Good luck when YOU get there!
Gwynevar 3 years ago
And it is NOT a RIGHT! Where do you get that it is a right to be married?? It is not stated or even implied in any of our original documents! Not even in any of the amendments to the Constitution! I am still trying to figure out how ANYONE could equate a man-man or woman-woman relationship with a man-woman relationship! They're not even CLOSE to being equal! An equality issue would be their nationality or the color of their skin. The sex of their partner is NOT an equality issue!
Gwynevar 3 years ago
All of that is just your opinion, just as what I have said is mine, but I consider getting married as part of our rights as human beings. It gives our relationships a legitimacy in the eyes of our peers, and joy that we're promising forever. I've been married to my husband over 12 years, and I can't imagine what I'd have done if someone told me I couldn't marry him. I have known many gay couples, and there really is NO difference between gay and straight relationships, except for the actual sex.
bekkers29 3 years ago
no difference aside from the sex? does "aside from the sex" include AIDS? because gays get A LOT more of that than straights...educate yourself on the homosexual lifestyle and perverse things they do to contract these diseases, if it was a casual bj here and there it would be a problem
yury2268 2 years ago
What you happen to consider perverse is hardly my concern. I was simply saying that a committed gay relationship is really no different than a committed heterosexual relationship.
beckychan01 2 years ago
and a committed gay relationship is few and far between, the reality is that homosexuals share many partners and engage in sexual acts which spread HIV, you see they have broken down the idea of a committed relationship, to gays love is love, no matter what shape or form
yury2268 2 years ago
And that is a stereotype, and not actually true. How many gay people do you actually know and interact with on a daily basis? Of all the gay people I've been friends with in my life, I've known maybe TWO guys who engaged in that sort of behavior. The other gay men and women I know WANT to be in committed, monogamous relationships.
beckychan01 2 years ago
Also, I don't think that, just because it isn't a constitutionally guaranteed right, doesn't mean it's not a human right. Our constitution was made to be fluid for just that reason.
bekkers29 3 years ago
By the way, try having a friend die of AIDS because her husband slept with men behind her back and didn't have the guts to tell her until it was too late! All because "it's okay to do these things" because "we aren't hurting anyone!" Right?? Yeah... I gotcha! It's all about satisfying the need when you have it! Good luck with that! I'm sure you will enjoy the days/nights of unending pain or the drugs you have to take because someone wasn't honest with you about the HIV status!
Gwynevar 3 years ago
Nice try, but cheating on a spouse is inherently hurting them. So whether that man had slept with a man or with another woman, he WAS hurting his wife. And I can't imagine anyone would say otherwise.
bekkers29 3 years ago
What about the gays who ENCOURAGED the married man to "cheat" on his wife with them? Do they get a pass because, after all, it was HIS fault? I have listened to conversations between gay men at work; "Oh! Give me five minutes alone with him and I'll turn him in a heartbeat!" I thought you didn't TURN gay!
Gwynevar 3 years ago
What I was saying is that whether the married man cheated with a man or a woman made absolutely no difference. But yeah, the married person who made is promise to forsake all others is definitely the party who is most in the wrong in that scenario.
And as for your other comment, all I have to say is wow, have you never heard of water cooler talk? What you described is called joking, my dear.
bekkers29 3 years ago
I'm sorry for your lose.
Please don't assume that I am either in pain or on medication, it just shows your ignorance.
I am so sad to say that this "bantering" has run it's course. Not so sad as relieved.
Thank you
rtodm 3 years ago
You do know that we have laws against mixing religion and government in this country, right? No one is trying to shut down your religious rights, but you do not have the right to deny others civil rights because they are against your personal religious beliefs.
bekkers29 3 years ago 3
Show me where it says in the U.S. Constitution or ANY of its Amendments that the church is manditorily supposed to be separated from government! It does not say that in ANY of our founding documents. The First Amendment of the U.S. Constitutions states, "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;..." Simply put, our government can't create national religion nor can they interfere with our freedom to worship.
Gwynevar 3 years ago
It's implied by the US Constitution; it's simply one of the many things that are considered implied, if not outright stated by the Constitution. Simply put, this country was never intended to be a Theocracy, so discrimination based on a religious belief, to me, is simply inappropriate.
bekkers29 3 years ago
It is NOT implied anywhere in the U.S. Constitution! The ONLY thing it says is that "Congress shall make no law...." and how many laws have they made that deny me MY rights as a Christian to worship as I see fit!!?? While you scream for your so-called rights (which are NOT rights but merely privileges), the government is seeing fit to take MINE away! Yes, it is happening! They are shutting down religious adoption agencies in Massachussetts for refusing to allow same-sex couples to adopt!
Gwynevar 3 years ago
AND.... marriage is NOT a protected right but it is a privilege granted to heterosexual couples by the church and by our government! Oh! What's that you say? The government didn't grant that privilege to heterosexual couples!? Look up the Defense of Marriage Act of 1996 that was enacted by probably YOUR favorite president, Bill Clinton, if you don't believe it! It states that the federal government will recognize ONLY marriage between a man and a woman!
Gwynevar 3 years ago
I really wouldn't care if it had been my best friend that enacted the Defense of Marriage Act, I would still consider the person to be a bigot. The beliefs of the people that I admire (and no, I am not saying that I admire Bill Clinton) have absolutely no effect on my personal beliefs, rather their beliefs affect only my opinions of them.
bekkers29 3 years ago
You SO need to go back and read the New Testament. Really. Wishing a disease on someone just because they disagree with you? VERY Christian. You should be ashamed of yourself.
kuroutusbasa 3 years ago
You're not wrong! What was really interesting, though, about someone hoping that I'd get AIDS from a sexual partner who was dishonest with me is that I've only had one parter in my life, and I know beyond a shadow of a doubt that my husband will never cheat on me.
bekkers29 3 years ago
Amen!!
kuroutusbasa 3 years ago
I wish it on no one because I have seen what it can do. When I said "you," it was meant in the collective sense. Nobody knows for sure what their "partner" is going to do and, thanks to the liberal beliefs being bandied about these days, you can't REALLY trust anyone. I learned that by watching a friend die from AIDS, thanks to her "trusted" husband! She never had a clue because he was so loving and "responsible" toward her! Then, out of the blue, she started getting sick and he confessed!
Gwynevar 3 years ago
Interesting.. your RELIGIOUS beliefs should take precedence over LEGAL rights? What happened to separation of CHURCH and STATE?
autonutt 3 years ago
Yet another instance of this Gwynevar retard cutting and pasting the very same comment on EVERY Prop 8 video on YouTube! Get an original thought and an ability to change up the words a bit!
autonutt 3 years ago
My brother is in this video!! Thanks for this :D
evolveordissolve 3 years ago