For the record I now drive a VW MKV 2.0TFSI GTi with a four cylinder piston engine with a k04 turbo upgrade and stage 3 apr software. It'll make almost 400lb/ft of torque on race fuel and 365 on pump gas. So I am not biased toward rotary engines. I just don't see why someone would hate on any engine with the potential to run down a Lamborghini whether it's piston driven or not. Closing your mind encourages mildew growth on your brain. Let some daylight in and sterilized that ignorance.
I abused the living shit out of them though and I would say that a piston driven engine would not take such abuse and would most likely be scrap metal if you did blow them under these conditions. I'm talking about hitting the redline in every gear every time I drove them. Getting 30,000 miles of roughneck hardcore engine abuse out of a powerplant ain't bad. Plus, when they would start burning oil or losing compression a low tech weekend rebuilt makes them as good as new.
I've had a few rotary engined cars and I can say that I put more work into them then a piston driven engine. However, they both were turbo charged and made at least 300 to 350HP(depending on fuel type) and were as light as a Ford Fiesta. I used to routinely outrun corvettes and mustangs. Not the top rated models like the Z01 and Cobra, but still big displacement V8s. I had two rotary engines and rebuilt one of them once and the other one twice in a period of four years.
OMG This aji8 guy ??? Dude what r u trying to proove ? You have a serious hate-on for Rotary's ok, even a hate page dedicated to rotary's failing lol Was someone in your family run over by an RX7 ? Seriously ,..Get A Life!! ROFL
lo0l0olol. What have you proved? You keep telling "rotards" that they lie, yet you're spreading one as we speak.
I will play you're game, piston engines are junk and I have to replace mine after I over rev it. Rebuilding a piston engine is out of the question from seizure from both low oil and from overheating.
I really want to hear what you have to say about this one. I will point out, a rotary cannot seize from overheating, because of the design. Replacing apex seals, or replacing a brick .
You are lying again. That is what I have to say. Nothing new here. So what if a rotary can't seize, it can lose compression that it doesn't operate any more. What are you trying to prove? That you can come up with some off topic response that makes no sense.
lol what? That was perfectly on topic. And no, you're lying, losing compression is nothing compaired to replacing a huge ass peice of aluminum and steel. Can you replace welded pistons and rings? Really what are you proving, because I proved the rotary can last just as long.
Each engine has it own place, you just can accept the fact that the wankel has not been around more then the piston engine. And the 787B was banned for unfair power to weight, and outlasted 20 other piston engine cars.
Losing compression necessitates a rebuild in case you didn't realize that and rotor housings also need to be replaced due to cooling issues and apex seal failure and going out of spec. I think you need to get some more education before you come on here and show off your ignorance. Any rotary guy knows these flaws of the rotary. The rotary has its place as a door stop.
Yeah, IF THEY ARE OUT OF SPEC. Just because you tear it down does NOT mean you have to replace every freakin part in in. You will have to do the same with a piston engine, so really you're back at square one. Cooling problems come from the fact that it has a damn small radiator, and the turbo models make it lean. So where is you're facts, because all I see is some grunt behind a screen who just keeps sayin the same things over and over again. You aparently have not used one by how you talk.
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I SAID THAT!! You have a difficult time reading it would seem. The problem is that they seem to wear out. My rotary was purchased by a guy that was replacing his due to it having no compression (READ:
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WORN OUT!!) Cooling problems come from poor sealing in the engine. The engine is junk!! You need to come to terms with that. I know you rotards love clinging to hope but it is really pitiful. The piston engine does NOT have the same issues as the rotary. You are deluded and like to argue with lies.
They have more then the rotary does though ;D. What is poor about the sealing? I just told you they create more heat that the radiator can remove. And I still have yet to see any real reasons that the piston engine is far superior to the rotary. Again you point out the bad things, then you get mad when I point out something true to you're piston engine. Hardcore troller you are ;D.
It is you that is losing the battle if there really was one. It seems that you are fighting against reality, just like your rotard brothers. Maybe you would like to explain this radiator problem as my 13B NEVER ran hot. The cooling issue was the result of poor sealing between the housings. Mazda put plenty of radiator in the car for 150 h.p. It is quite large, and I bet I could run my LS1 with it. your fellow rotards represent.
Fine, my mistake on which cooling problem you were talking about, however this is different from a blown head gasket? I still don't see how im am lying since I have not said anything but fact.
Anyhow I will no longer continue replying as, from other videos, you just seem to troll around with 'lies'. You're just being a fanboy. By all means keep it up.
If you just lost, how am I trolling with lies? I think you just lost twice. If you want more proof I suggest you visit the rotary forums instead of arguing with me on here. I get my information on the rotary forums. ;)
@aji8 LOL bad sealing around the housings? you fucking moron you just didn't know how to take care of your rotary.... the only issues of seals are on the rotors... if you have overheating issues then you don't know what you are doing... goes to show that you have no mechanical intellect and all this bullshit you keep saying about the rotary there are just as much and more problems for the piston engine...
sure. i prefer piston over rotor anyways but im still obsesed with those lil mazda drag car running 7's non stop...wheelin all the way down the track. whats wrong with that. if its a race engine you will probably rebuild it quite often...so whats the difference. its all a matter of opinion but you're just trying to hard to prove something...you post hate shit all over mazda videos. you're a bitch ass punk.
You're obviously a piston head freak who knows nothing about rotors The only reason why 787B rotor won the 91 Lemans was due to reliability and reducd fuel consumption compared to rivals The MAzda 787B Produced 700hp capable of 930hp up to 10,500rpm without any turbos and only weighed in at 830Kg. The engine did 5000km in that race without a hitch hitting top speed of 380km for 24hours. Check it out, the sound, power and less moving parts beats any over rated push rod turbo charge shit box.
What I do know is that the guys in all the rx7 and rotary forums are constantly complaining , rebuilding, and replacing the rotary. There is even a website dedicated to it moron. The engine is junk at best. You are on a short fuse. The rotary is a ticking bomb.
They are faster, lighter, more hornier, sound wicked and produce more Horse Power than an EVO on steriods. I'm surprised you actually read Rotor forums u obviously have what is known as Rotor Fear syndrome, from having your anal rapped too many times by one. The best way to know about rotors is buy one and play with it see what you can do. They are simple and as long as you have the basics covered you'll be fine. JUST DONT OVER REV THE ENGINE TOO LONG LIKE MOST NEWBES DO and blow them up.
Your blanket statements, misspelled words, and misinformation show your stupidity. I did own a rotary and it was a slow POS. My car has a real engine now. NOT ROTARY
Good for you! I hope it works out. if you ever wanna settle this in a race, against my rotor beast, in an endurance, circuit or drag thats no problem. By the way what to you have under the hood and no lies either.
is that all? listen no one here Really cares what u think we all like the motor you'r just another hater who does nothing but troll other vids get a life man your a big waste of time and breath.
i don't think he actually knows how to do that. He is what we call an idiot hater who trolls and has no life and the best insult he can come up with is loser idiot or junk motor, in all reality he just Fails in life theres no point in arguing with an asshole that just trashes just because he likes pistons over rotaries, but oh well what can ya do he's a failure to all known mankind so he's really not worth it.
LOL...it doesn't take a decent rotary mechanic, it takes a patient one as they will be rebuilding the engine often. I don't need a mechanic. Too bad you guys are too stupid to realize that a person that can do a drivetrain swap can easily understand and work on the rotary. After all you guys are so proud that it is such a simple engine. I don't know why you insist on stating how simple the rotary is and then state that you need some special mechanic. STUPID does comes to mind.
2nd, the V8 sounds much better than the weedwhacker rotary junk and more like an F1 engine becuase they use V8s in F1 racing moron. I am not interested in an engine that needs special care and self work. I am interested in an engine that can take a beating and come back for more which the rotary has show that it can't do that. Even you admit that it needs care. You need a piston engine!
now it seems that u have NO idea about rotaries...so maybe u are the stupid one...
so stack with your low rev shitty V8 and let us have all the fun with the fully reliable rotaries our mechanics make that happily rev to 9000rpm...
the engine is very simple but there are some steps at rebuilding that needs accuracy so the engine will last long...but u are too stupid to know about that...
idiot people like u replace it with a fat low rev pathetic V8 that sounds like a tractor...
smart people do the reliability mods, change the original two-part apex seals with single-part ones (from mazda again) and enjoy their car for a very long time...i know rx7's which did 200.000km without rebuild...
and even when u need rebuilt, it costs 2000euro's...comaring with the cost of the v8 mod u did, i guess i could do 3 rebuilts and still cost me less than your engine swap...
Your fellow rotards would argue those points you know. They say they last forever, produce hundreds and thousands of horsepower and have no flaws. According to them they are the perfect engine. At least you can admit some fact.
Lmao...im a loser? For one lets Break Something down for your simplme minded self im not a loser and as it seems the only thing u can come up with is lame insults come on Little Boy Do us all the Favor have your mom Breast feed u and bake u some cookies After and Tuck u into bed your a little Crying baby, and to u it might be as u say a "LOSER" motor but in all reality your just a dumb fuck that doesn't know any better now your lame as jokes are just making me laugh.
Yes you are a loser. Do you not understand English? Moron!
Sounds like you are simple minded since you can't understand English. None of this changes the fact that the rotary is junk. Try and come up with something if you can idiot.
U forgot, rotary engines are extremely lightweight, sound totally awesome and of course have the best power output considering their small size. Dude get a life who cares about the fucking emissions. Rotary's are something special
They sound like crap unless you like yard work. Every time I hear one I think it is time to use the grass trimmer. They are heavy also especially the 20B and 26B. Rotaries are special though for special people that live in another world. Have fun rebuilding your engine!
Yeah yeah right :P what ever dude what ever. If u don't like rotor engines don't watch this video just because u r jealous because u can't even own a little honda civic u shouldn't disrespect Wankel engines. Hate somewhere else u r getting on people's nerves
u remove an engine that weights about 50kg and put an engine that weights 200-250kg at best...50-50 distribution is ruined...
u must move the steering system further front to fit the V8 and destroy suspension and steering geometry by using longer steering rods, or cut metal between cabin and engine bay to fit and lose chassis rigidity...
not to mention electrical cirquits etc...
and all that because u cant find a decent rotary mechanic to do a good and reliable rebuilt...
I don't know where to start because you are wrong on everything you stated except maybe for the fully dressed weight of the aluminum V8. Everything else is wrong and I didn't have to move anything except for the battery. You are a complete moron spreading your lies here on youtube.
So don't bother postin again, and if u do im not wastin my time on a scrub as yourself, because i know your gona need the last word edge wise because thats what little kids these days need to feel good about themselves.
Dude stop making yourself look like a fool, u dont know me for shit all u have been doing is putting shit down for no reason Get a Life, because u need one and i have no need to life scrub so go along bitch and moan say what u want because it isn't getting u nowhere and your a waste of my time man your just making me laugh now with your lame ass self so have a good day i got shit to do. Oh and one more thing Your dumb ass shouldnt be judging people u don't know so this sub. is ended.
Dude YOU'RE A FAGGOT....i think that was correctly enough i know a bit about rotaries and i have been doing my "Research. So how about this before u go talking shit 1. get a life because all i see u doing is trashing Rotaries, and as far as working on other motors i Have so please lets not get into this Discussion because i have no time for scrubs like u but wait....then again alot of people from what i have seen don't like u anyway so go away and live your pittiful life ty :)
This just shows how stupid you are as you result to insult when you get hurt as you realize the truth about your POS rotary engine. I understand now. Sorry the engine is junk. Try some pistsons next time.
I'm not even worth it? I don't see much contribution from you either, other than you calling the rotary a "piece of junk" or calling people morons. btw this 4 rotor would destroy anything you will EVER drive
not for nuttin but id like u to tell that to a rotary specialist and see how badly u get shut down get a life and stop downgrading the motor because i can tell u have no knowledge whats so ever
You can't even speak correctly and you want us to believe that you are a rotary specialist? Quit reading the mags and work on an engine sometime. Then you will know better.
lol your really judging me by the way i speak? lmao please do yourself a favor and grow up and stop talkin shit on youtube i have worked on motors before only imports and i like rotaries so for someone to come off and bad mouth the it because they dont like it and they heard this and that then your pathetic and a waste of my time and yes i do read mags but i do know my shit so do yourself the favor dont bother replying cuz i actually have a life other than putting shit down on you tube...grow up
It was interesting reading the heated discussion above. But its seem that the ultimate use for a piston engine is powering a large ship or in tractors where power is required on a consistent basis and weight isn't an issue.
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On proper tracks with corners weight is very important. Why did rotaries get banned from racing ? Because manufacturers want to people to believe that piston engines are the ultimate for racing. F1 engines reving to 19,000+ revs is a huge waste of $
I don't know much about drag racing, but I heard that tracks are being shortened for safety reasons. One reason for that is that drag cars can't go fast because they handle so badly.
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The other reason why rotaries got banned from racing is probably because only Mazda had the technology. Other manufactures haven't been open minded enough to take a risk on developing rotaries.
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So it seems that most hard track motor racing on proper courses is a joke, because they should using rotaries.
how does the performance of two sandwiched 12a motors compare with the actual 26b, and what are the differences as far as displacement, metal used in the block, etc. Also, how hard would it be to machine the parts necissary to make a 4 rotar out of two 12a or 18b engines. I've heard the 12a is easier but nonetheless how difficult would it be.
The car uses a rotary engine design that was originally developed by Germans and sold to Mazda, then they stole the front styling of the American Panoz GT LeMans car and German Mercedes DTM rear?
no the germans couldn't make the rotors or rotary engine work so they sold the blue prints to mazda and mazda made it work, and they didnt stole anything they just made it alot better thats all
Germans made them run.Look up nsu...But these wankel engines needed crazy amounts of gas to operate and the project was eventually sold to the japs.And japs did a great work and developed this engines.Japs deserve everyone's respect in engineering
thought it was always jap made with the rx7, they pulled out of le-mans or something using rotary engines as it was some advantage over competitors.. but the germans unable to solve it technically to pass on to the japs lol germans have crazy engineering skills to :D
Man,Germans gave drive to their bike's sidecars with differentials during WW2...They were the best and still are great.But japs are also crazy.RESPECT TO BOTH!
ChrisHallett83 the rotary gear in the rotary fitting onto the eccentric shaft has a ratio of about 3:1 not 2:1 do ur homework bro. buh yea ur ryt bowt ur other shit gud man haha
justin moore is right, but it is possible to alter the valve's lift duration without a camshaft by relpacing the camshaft with electronic motors, essentially giving an infinitely variable vtec
that's waht i mean. i lvoe roataries, but i just hear that people with 3rd gen rx7's get apex seal issues and it leaks(it makes common sense since thats what's in constant contacT) why neg me for that?
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Man why aren't rotors in every car? Oh wait they're Less fuel efficient, they burn oil, and are named after a dude called wankel. Piston engines make power every other stroke anyway
the oil you are right in that but feul efficient ??? and they make way more power then piston engines les parts to brake down To And waaaaaaaaaaaaaay less maintenance then a piston engine
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DonovanxPetersen 8 months ago
For the record I now drive a VW MKV 2.0TFSI GTi with a four cylinder piston engine with a k04 turbo upgrade and stage 3 apr software. It'll make almost 400lb/ft of torque on race fuel and 365 on pump gas. So I am not biased toward rotary engines. I just don't see why someone would hate on any engine with the potential to run down a Lamborghini whether it's piston driven or not. Closing your mind encourages mildew growth on your brain. Let some daylight in and sterilized that ignorance.
steveoin724 8 months ago
I abused the living shit out of them though and I would say that a piston driven engine would not take such abuse and would most likely be scrap metal if you did blow them under these conditions. I'm talking about hitting the redline in every gear every time I drove them. Getting 30,000 miles of roughneck hardcore engine abuse out of a powerplant ain't bad. Plus, when they would start burning oil or losing compression a low tech weekend rebuilt makes them as good as new.
steveoin724 8 months ago
I've had a few rotary engined cars and I can say that I put more work into them then a piston driven engine. However, they both were turbo charged and made at least 300 to 350HP(depending on fuel type) and were as light as a Ford Fiesta. I used to routinely outrun corvettes and mustangs. Not the top rated models like the Z01 and Cobra, but still big displacement V8s. I had two rotary engines and rebuilt one of them once and the other one twice in a period of four years.
steveoin724 8 months ago
aji8 was made in his fathers palm and thrown in some random pussy... thus explaining his "smartness"
NMCsala 1 year ago
@NMCsala i thought he was conceived on a used Mc donalds napkin
guevodeplomo 1 year ago
rotors= super fast fun and r way better then pistions
gopedsport8 1 year ago
OMG This aji8 guy ??? Dude what r u trying to proove ? You have a serious hate-on for Rotary's ok, even a hate page dedicated to rotary's failing lol Was someone in your family run over by an RX7 ? Seriously ,..Get A Life!! ROFL
akribela 1 year ago 4
lmao wow i do the same thing
rey0176 1 year ago
this engine is way better than piston engines imo just need more investors from top companies to put more time into making it better
TheNuggetface 1 year ago
wankels are cool they have fast throttle response because they dont have to cycle 2 times for one explosion
19wael96 1 year ago
aji8 should be shot!
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The rotary is junk and needs to be rebuilt often. This engine is double trouble as is twice as much failure as the 13B.
aji8 2 years ago
who cares, point me to a engine that produces 3x times the amount of power from such a small cc relative to bhp
thing is if you got the cash to be playing with rotary's and tuning them then you certainly got the cash to rebuild which aint exactly hard!!!
vikkiandbradley07 2 years ago
grow up kid
darkeyce02 2 years ago
4 rotor madness as you are mad to own an engine that has to be rebuilt all the time. Can you say mechanic on retainer.
aji8 2 years ago
lo0l0olol. What have you proved? You keep telling "rotards" that they lie, yet you're spreading one as we speak.
I will play you're game, piston engines are junk and I have to replace mine after I over rev it. Rebuilding a piston engine is out of the question from seizure from both low oil and from overheating.
I really want to hear what you have to say about this one. I will point out, a rotary cannot seize from overheating, because of the design. Replacing apex seals, or replacing a brick .
whatUsaybob 2 years ago
You are lying again. That is what I have to say. Nothing new here. So what if a rotary can't seize, it can lose compression that it doesn't operate any more. What are you trying to prove? That you can come up with some off topic response that makes no sense.
aji8 2 years ago
lol what? That was perfectly on topic. And no, you're lying, losing compression is nothing compaired to replacing a huge ass peice of aluminum and steel. Can you replace welded pistons and rings? Really what are you proving, because I proved the rotary can last just as long.
Each engine has it own place, you just can accept the fact that the wankel has not been around more then the piston engine. And the 787B was banned for unfair power to weight, and outlasted 20 other piston engine cars.
whatUsaybob 2 years ago
Losing compression necessitates a rebuild in case you didn't realize that and rotor housings also need to be replaced due to cooling issues and apex seal failure and going out of spec. I think you need to get some more education before you come on here and show off your ignorance. Any rotary guy knows these flaws of the rotary. The rotary has its place as a door stop.
aji8 2 years ago
Yeah, IF THEY ARE OUT OF SPEC. Just because you tear it down does NOT mean you have to replace every freakin part in in. You will have to do the same with a piston engine, so really you're back at square one. Cooling problems come from the fact that it has a damn small radiator, and the turbo models make it lean. So where is you're facts, because all I see is some grunt behind a screen who just keeps sayin the same things over and over again. You aparently have not used one by how you talk.
whatUsaybob 2 years ago
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I SAID THAT!! You have a difficult time reading it would seem. The problem is that they seem to wear out. My rotary was purchased by a guy that was replacing his due to it having no compression (READ:
aji8 2 years ago
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WORN OUT!!) Cooling problems come from poor sealing in the engine. The engine is junk!! You need to come to terms with that. I know you rotards love clinging to hope but it is really pitiful. The piston engine does NOT have the same issues as the rotary. You are deluded and like to argue with lies.
aji8 2 years ago
Yeah you're right, they don't
They have more then the rotary does though ;D. What is poor about the sealing? I just told you they create more heat that the radiator can remove. And I still have yet to see any real reasons that the piston engine is far superior to the rotary. Again you point out the bad things, then you get mad when I point out something true to you're piston engine. Hardcore troller you are ;D.
I feel you're in a losing battle my friend.
whatUsaybob 2 years ago
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It is you that is losing the battle if there really was one. It seems that you are fighting against reality, just like your rotard brothers. Maybe you would like to explain this radiator problem as my 13B NEVER ran hot. The cooling issue was the result of poor sealing between the housings. Mazda put plenty of radiator in the car for 150 h.p. It is quite large, and I bet I could run my LS1 with it. your fellow rotards represent.
aji8 2 years ago
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If you are going to continue to state ignorant lies, If you are starting to sound like the morons
aji8 2 years ago
Fine, my mistake on which cooling problem you were talking about, however this is different from a blown head gasket? I still don't see how im am lying since I have not said anything but fact.
Anyhow I will no longer continue replying as, from other videos, you just seem to troll around with 'lies'. You're just being a fanboy. By all means keep it up.
Just for you, I lost :D
whatUsaybob 2 years ago
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If you just lost, how am I trolling with lies? I think you just lost twice. If you want more proof I suggest you visit the rotary forums instead of arguing with me on here. I get my information on the rotary forums. ;)
aji8 2 years ago
@aji8 LOL bad sealing around the housings? you fucking moron you just didn't know how to take care of your rotary.... the only issues of seals are on the rotors... if you have overheating issues then you don't know what you are doing... goes to show that you have no mechanical intellect and all this bullshit you keep saying about the rotary there are just as much and more problems for the piston engine...
Tj1056 10 months ago
@Tj1056 seals live in the artic. They like to eat fish.
bomiwonabi 5 months ago
FYI you BOTH sound totally retarded and no older than 12 (regardless of your real age)
fcguy7 2 years ago
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2 more rotors of FAIL!
This thing won't last.
aji8 2 years ago
why wont it last. its made by scoot....which is a well recognized car tuner. you're just hatin.
danelio 2 years ago
It is a rotary. It doesn't matter who built it. It will fail
aji8 2 years ago
sure. i prefer piston over rotor anyways but im still obsesed with those lil mazda drag car running 7's non stop...wheelin all the way down the track. whats wrong with that. if its a race engine you will probably rebuild it quite often...so whats the difference. its all a matter of opinion but you're just trying to hard to prove something...you post hate shit all over mazda videos. you're a bitch ass punk.
danelio 2 years ago 20
No you don't it is obvious you are a liar, and a rotard at heart. you do not like piston engines. I can tell by your stupid posts.
aji8 2 years ago
suck it hillbilly
danelio 2 years ago
Lame. Sorry you couldn't prove me wrong, rotard.
aji8 2 years ago
You're obviously a piston head freak who knows nothing about rotors The only reason why 787B rotor won the 91 Lemans was due to reliability and reducd fuel consumption compared to rivals The MAzda 787B Produced 700hp capable of 930hp up to 10,500rpm without any turbos and only weighed in at 830Kg. The engine did 5000km in that race without a hitch hitting top speed of 380km for 24hours. Check it out, the sound, power and less moving parts beats any over rated push rod turbo charge shit box.
jbond193 2 years ago
What I do know is that the guys in all the rx7 and rotary forums are constantly complaining , rebuilding, and replacing the rotary. There is even a website dedicated to it moron. The engine is junk at best. You are on a short fuse. The rotary is a ticking bomb.
aji8 2 years ago
They are faster, lighter, more hornier, sound wicked and produce more Horse Power than an EVO on steriods. I'm surprised you actually read Rotor forums u obviously have what is known as Rotor Fear syndrome, from having your anal rapped too many times by one. The best way to know about rotors is buy one and play with it see what you can do. They are simple and as long as you have the basics covered you'll be fine. JUST DONT OVER REV THE ENGINE TOO LONG LIKE MOST NEWBES DO and blow them up.
jbond193 2 years ago
@jbond193
Your blanket statements, misspelled words, and misinformation show your stupidity. I did own a rotary and it was a slow POS. My car has a real engine now. NOT ROTARY
aji8 2 years ago
you must have a small dick. you can tell by your hatered and your nazi like opinions
danelio 2 years ago
You must have a small mind. I can tell by your idiotic replies.
The rotary is still garbage and you failed to prove otherwise.
aji8 2 years ago
you fail at suckin my cock but your mom doesnt aji8. u big sack of v8 pride. go have sex with your cousin
danelio 2 years ago
and there is a rotards final argument when he can't win. He responds by insulting.
You must understand that you can't argue against the truth moron.
aji8 2 years ago
i dont give a fuck about your opinion,,,its just that you hate on every video you can find. and i find it funny and pathetic.
danelio 2 years ago
dude, do you reply on every rotary video on youtube? why don't you just shut the fuck up- people like rotaries you don't The end!
13brotary 2 years ago
Good for you! I hope it works out. if you ever wanna settle this in a race, against my rotor beast, in an endurance, circuit or drag thats no problem. By the way what to you have under the hood and no lies either.
jbond193 2 years ago
Rotor beast and race. I get many of these. Another internet warrior.. LOL.
You would be lucky to make it out of the garage.
aji8 2 years ago
I know why you dont like rotors? cuz you got your ass raped too many times by one hahaha......
jbond193 2 years ago
are you talkin to me? jbond
danelio 2 years ago
Sory dude I'm talking to that lame aji8
jbond193 2 years ago
hey aji, dont you have a timing belt to change? gtfo
ilikepie45290 2 years ago
My engine uses a chain and lasts a very long time! Idiot.
aji8 2 years ago
The rotary will fail.
aji8 2 years ago
all anti aji8
smilesink 2 years ago
is that all? listen no one here Really cares what u think we all like the motor you'r just another hater who does nothing but troll other vids get a life man your a big waste of time and breath.
DwhNeo 2 years ago
Rotaries are very dirty engines and barely pass emissions. With tightening EPA guidelines, expect them to be obsolete here soon.
aji8 2 years ago
the crank goes 1/3rd the rotational speed of each rotor, so does a wankel fire once every crank rotation per rotor?
tpvalley 2 years ago
i don't think he actually knows how to do that. He is what we call an idiot hater who trolls and has no life and the best insult he can come up with is loser idiot or junk motor, in all reality he just Fails in life theres no point in arguing with an asshole that just trashes just because he likes pistons over rotaries, but oh well what can ya do he's a failure to all known mankind so he's really not worth it.
DwhNeo 2 years ago
Just deal with the failure that is the rotary then. Get your rebuild kits ready.
aji8 2 years ago
mate i told you before, find a descent rotary mechanic, do the reliability mods and the engine lasts A LOT....
no one said it's an engine for everyone...wankel needs care and self work...that's why owners love it...
and the sound of a 20b or 26b is way better than the sound of a crappy american V8...the closest you can get to an F1 sound...
dimos47ki7 2 years ago
LOL...it doesn't take a decent rotary mechanic, it takes a patient one as they will be rebuilding the engine often. I don't need a mechanic. Too bad you guys are too stupid to realize that a person that can do a drivetrain swap can easily understand and work on the rotary. After all you guys are so proud that it is such a simple engine. I don't know why you insist on stating how simple the rotary is and then state that you need some special mechanic. STUPID does comes to mind.
aji8 2 years ago
2nd, the V8 sounds much better than the weedwhacker rotary junk and more like an F1 engine becuase they use V8s in F1 racing moron. I am not interested in an engine that needs special care and self work. I am interested in an engine that can take a beating and come back for more which the rotary has show that it can't do that. Even you admit that it needs care. You need a piston engine!
aji8 2 years ago
Oh and the rotary can only dream of revving like the V8 or V12 F1 piston engine.
aji8 2 years ago
now it seems that u have NO idea about rotaries...so maybe u are the stupid one...
so stack with your low rev shitty V8 and let us have all the fun with the fully reliable rotaries our mechanics make that happily rev to 9000rpm...
the engine is very simple but there are some steps at rebuilding that needs accuracy so the engine will last long...but u are too stupid to know about that...
dimos47ki7 2 years ago
Yes..I know quite a bit about the junk rotary. You don't really know anything if you think the rotary is reliable. You are just an idiot.
The rotary is junk, and it fails, that is why people replace it with other engines.
aji8 2 years ago
idiot people like u replace it with a fat low rev pathetic V8 that sounds like a tractor...
smart people do the reliability mods, change the original two-part apex seals with single-part ones (from mazda again) and enjoy their car for a very long time...i know rx7's which did 200.000km without rebuild...
and even when u need rebuilt, it costs 2000euro's...comaring with the cost of the v8 mod u did, i guess i could do 3 rebuilts and still cost me less than your engine swap...
dimos47ki7 2 years ago
They are still breaking so you are a liar.
Sorry for you I know rotary owners and they are much better and more knowledgeable than you and have tried all ideas.
aji8 2 years ago
liar? did i say they dont break? i didn't
i said they last much longer than the original ones...
no one said that a rotary will last for ever...but with the appropriate mods it will last much longer...
i dont mind rebuilding my engine every 80-100.000km...its not an everyday car after all...it's a car to have fun with and enjoy it on a sunday...
dimos47ki7 2 years ago
Your fellow rotards would argue those points you know. They say they last forever, produce hundreds and thousands of horsepower and have no flaws. According to them they are the perfect engine. At least you can admit some fact.
aji8 2 years ago
ofc not. it would be stupid to say that about wankel, when even mazda was claiming 100.000km expected life for a wankel back at the age of rx7...
dimos47ki7 2 years ago
I.T.B!
Thug0000069 2 years ago
Lmao...im a loser? For one lets Break Something down for your simplme minded self im not a loser and as it seems the only thing u can come up with is lame insults come on Little Boy Do us all the Favor have your mom Breast feed u and bake u some cookies After and Tuck u into bed your a little Crying baby, and to u it might be as u say a "LOSER" motor but in all reality your just a dumb fuck that doesn't know any better now your lame as jokes are just making me laugh.
DwhNeo 2 years ago
Yes you are a loser. Do you not understand English? Moron!
Sounds like you are simple minded since you can't understand English. None of this changes the fact that the rotary is junk. Try and come up with something if you can idiot.
aji8 2 years ago
its used to suffer from premature wear of tip seals but now they r fine.
Why do u say they r junk?
tpvalley 2 years ago
Uses oil like a 2 cycle, unreliable, waste fuel, high emissions. Overheating issues, floods easily.
aji8 2 years ago
I know some racing ones use 2 stroke oil but I didnt think the rx7 used 2 stroke.
tpvalley 2 years ago
all, untrue, you really dont know anything
darkeyce02 2 years ago
modern rotaries dont need oil in fuel do they?
They wouldnt pass emmission laws and they make them still dont they?
how often does a rotary fire per 360 degrees of crank/output ratation per rotor?
The output turns 3 times faster than rotor so is it once every 360 per rotor?
tpvalley 2 years ago
U forgot, rotary engines are extremely lightweight, sound totally awesome and of course have the best power output considering their small size. Dude get a life who cares about the fucking emissions. Rotary's are something special
3L3CTR0static 2 years ago
They sound like crap unless you like yard work. Every time I hear one I think it is time to use the grass trimmer. They are heavy also especially the 20B and 26B. Rotaries are special though for special people that live in another world. Have fun rebuilding your engine!
aji8 2 years ago
aha so a 20b, 26b sounds crap? and according to you they are heavy.. are u sure we talk bout the same engine? Have fun driving ur moms prius
3L3CTR0static 2 years ago
I know what I am talking about. Too bad you don't. Don't take my word for it moron. Look it up for yourself!
aji8 2 years ago
Yeah yeah right :P what ever dude what ever. If u don't like rotor engines don't watch this video just because u r jealous because u can't even own a little honda civic u shouldn't disrespect Wankel engines. Hate somewhere else u r getting on people's nerves
3L3CTR0static 2 years ago
Oh you mean the Wanker boat anchor engine? I do not own a Honda. I have an Rx7.
aji8 2 years ago
xD so why u talkin shit bout ur own car LOOOOL
3L3CTR0static 2 years ago
I never said anything bad about the rx7 except that it needs another engine to be good. I have a v8 in my rx. :)
aji8 2 years ago
A v8 in a rx-7 ? Dude that's like putting a supra engine into a viper...wtf is wrong with ya
3L3CTR0static 2 years ago
I have also seen a supra engine in an Rx7. Hey the cars are much better now.
aji8 2 years ago
A v8 in a rx-7 dude I think u dont get it right?
3L3CTR0static 2 years ago
The car is MUCH better now!!
I get it fine. Chassis good. V8 good. Rotary bad! Remove rotary! Everything good.
aji8 2 years ago
Oh I got it right. I now have a reliable and powerful Rx7
aji8 2 years ago
whats the point of having an rx7 without the rotary engine???
v8 totally destroys weight distribution...u loose the good feeling of the steering wheel, and turning is getting shit...
dimos47ki7 2 years ago
Plenty! With the V8 you actually have a reliable car now. You are misinformed about a great many things.
aji8 2 years ago
u remove an engine that weights about 50kg and put an engine that weights 200-250kg at best...50-50 distribution is ruined...
u must move the steering system further front to fit the V8 and destroy suspension and steering geometry by using longer steering rods, or cut metal between cabin and engine bay to fit and lose chassis rigidity...
not to mention electrical cirquits etc...
and all that because u cant find a decent rotary mechanic to do a good and reliable rebuilt...
dimos47ki7 2 years ago
I don't know where to start because you are wrong on everything you stated except maybe for the fully dressed weight of the aluminum V8. Everything else is wrong and I didn't have to move anything except for the battery. You are a complete moron spreading your lies here on youtube.
aji8 2 years ago
oh shit, just watched your video (i guess its your car).
i had in mind u have an FD, but now i saw u have an FC.
really sorry...
true, fc has much more space under the hood, and thats the reason u can also install a 3rotor much easier and without big mods
;)
dimos47ki7 2 years ago
You can still fit a V8 in the FD. It has been done many many times.
aji8 2 years ago
yeah but u need lots of mods like the ones i said above to fit a v8, just like the mods u need to fit a 20B or 26B
dimos47ki7 2 years ago
it is worth it to get rid of the rotary boat anchor.
aji8 2 years ago
guys dont mind aji8 hes the ONLY person to comment on EVERY rotary video he can find to talk shit about it
that fat fuck has no life literally...
twistedsting 2 years ago
So don't bother postin again, and if u do im not wastin my time on a scrub as yourself, because i know your gona need the last word edge wise because thats what little kids these days need to feel good about themselves.
DwhNeo 2 years ago
I am going to post, sorry if you don't like the truth that you like a loser engine because it fits you as you are a loser.
aji8 2 years ago
Dude stop making yourself look like a fool, u dont know me for shit all u have been doing is putting shit down for no reason Get a Life, because u need one and i have no need to life scrub so go along bitch and moan say what u want because it isn't getting u nowhere and your a waste of my time man your just making me laugh now with your lame ass self so have a good day i got shit to do. Oh and one more thing Your dumb ass shouldnt be judging people u don't know so this sub. is ended.
DwhNeo 2 years ago
LOL...I think we have another teenager here that is probably lucky if he has a N/A 13B making 150 h.p. Such a loser could only have a losing engine.
I am right aren't I? LOL
aji8 2 years ago
And two your jokes are Whack go watch some porn or something your boring me
DwhNeo 2 years ago
Dude YOU'RE A FAGGOT....i think that was correctly enough i know a bit about rotaries and i have been doing my "Research. So how about this before u go talking shit 1. get a life because all i see u doing is trashing Rotaries, and as far as working on other motors i Have so please lets not get into this Discussion because i have no time for scrubs like u but wait....then again alot of people from what i have seen don't like u anyway so go away and live your pittiful life ty :)
DwhNeo 2 years ago
This just shows how stupid you are as you result to insult when you get hurt as you realize the truth about your POS rotary engine. I understand now. Sorry the engine is junk. Try some pistsons next time.
aji8 2 years ago
try spelling pistons correctly next time
ilikepie45290 2 years ago
You are not even worth it. Do you have anything to contribute or are you just a moron on the sideline that makes idiotic comments?
aji8 2 years ago
Aji8, the rotary troll at it again, have you found a rotary related video where you don't go around spouting your shit?
Parag0n 2 years ago
I could use the links..send me some
aji8 2 years ago
I'm not even worth it? I don't see much contribution from you either, other than you calling the rotary a "piece of junk" or calling people morons. btw this 4 rotor would destroy anything you will EVER drive
ilikepie45290 2 years ago
LOL..you keep thinking that moron.
aji8 2 years ago
not for nuttin but id like u to tell that to a rotary specialist and see how badly u get shut down get a life and stop downgrading the motor because i can tell u have no knowledge whats so ever
DwhNeo 2 years ago
You can't even speak correctly and you want us to believe that you are a rotary specialist? Quit reading the mags and work on an engine sometime. Then you will know better.
aji8 2 years ago
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WG17UP 2 years ago
Yeah madness as to the amount of money that will be spent rebuilding this turd over and over again.
aji8 2 years ago
its a rotary. they arnt prone to break apart.
JcmMagNoo 2 years ago
You keep telling yourself that. It must be nice to live in a dream world
aji8 2 years ago
and you are a fool.
aji8 2 years ago
lol your really judging me by the way i speak? lmao please do yourself a favor and grow up and stop talkin shit on youtube i have worked on motors before only imports and i like rotaries so for someone to come off and bad mouth the it because they dont like it and they heard this and that then your pathetic and a waste of my time and yes i do read mags but i do know my shit so do yourself the favor dont bother replying cuz i actually have a life other than putting shit down on you tube...grow up
DwhNeo 2 years ago
Of course I am. How else am I supposed to judge you idiot?! I don't even know you!
Yeah I know..everyone is a mechanic on here, or a racer. Oh sorry, the racer is your profession of the week next week. Give it up liar!
aji8 2 years ago
@ aji8
It was interesting reading the heated discussion above. But its seem that the ultimate use for a piston engine is powering a large ship or in tractors where power is required on a consistent basis and weight isn't an issue.
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On proper tracks with corners weight is very important. Why did rotaries get banned from racing ? Because manufacturers want to people to believe that piston engines are the ultimate for racing. F1 engines reving to 19,000+ revs is a huge waste of $
HumanRightsVideosT 5 months ago
@ aji8
I don't know much about drag racing, but I heard that tracks are being shortened for safety reasons. One reason for that is that drag cars can't go fast because they handle so badly.
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The other reason why rotaries got banned from racing is probably because only Mazda had the technology. Other manufactures haven't been open minded enough to take a risk on developing rotaries.
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So it seems that most hard track motor racing on proper courses is a joke, because they should using rotaries.
HumanRightsVideosT 5 months ago
how does the performance of two sandwiched 12a motors compare with the actual 26b, and what are the differences as far as displacement, metal used in the block, etc. Also, how hard would it be to machine the parts necissary to make a 4 rotar out of two 12a or 18b engines. I've heard the 12a is easier but nonetheless how difficult would it be.
teddybigbass 2 years ago
well its smaller then a 26b. that would be made from 2 13b's sandwiched together. also theres no such as an 18b
seromon 2 years ago
Madness?! THIS IS MAZDAAAAAAAAAAAA!!
AwesomeMcTasty 2 years ago 11
snds lik mad mikes 7
roffy89 2 years ago
mad mikes rx7 is 4 rotor XD i think he has a scoot engine correct me if im wrong =) not trying to be a smart ass like some youtubers
canakarxxx 2 years ago
nope, it's a genuine 26b
Wargene 2 years ago 2
the guy at the end:
BRAP! BRRRAP! BRAP!!!
xD
syndicalist702 2 years ago 4
rofl
nightfire2255678 2 years ago
damn that revvin
swebreak 2 years ago
so how much does it make ? 400rwhp ?
TXmatrix2nr 2 years ago
think more like 1400
1skiinIan 2 years ago 2
How the hell do you get one of these? Do you custom build it or something?
gav240z 2 years ago
Yeah you have to custom build a 4 rotor.
evoknight 2 years ago
if i had one of those i would be in heaven for life
adam3176 2 years ago 2
i just came holy fuck
biggdaddy2001 2 years ago
that dude at the end is awesome XD
canakarxxx 3 years ago 6
quad rotors with itbs.. sounds good!
RonRonsADork 3 years ago
xD thats funny their screwing around
heathfiedler 3 years ago
thats sounds awsome
scotterinsam 3 years ago
made me sad , couse i want one but cant afford it
cooltoys 3 years ago 2
Quad rotors for the win! Go SCOOT!
vortexau 3 years ago
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madness? ITS BLASPHEMY
Shtylez 3 years ago
SOUND LIKE F1 !
ABUNAI888 3 years ago 5
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So let me get this straight...
The car uses a rotary engine design that was originally developed by Germans and sold to Mazda, then they stole the front styling of the American Panoz GT LeMans car and German Mercedes DTM rear?
That car is as Japanese as Apple Pie.
thechoosendude 3 years ago
no the germans couldn't make the rotors or rotary engine work so they sold the blue prints to mazda and mazda made it work, and they didnt stole anything they just made it alot better thats all
9155rg 3 years ago 5
Germans made them run.Look up nsu...But these wankel engines needed crazy amounts of gas to operate and the project was eventually sold to the japs.And japs did a great work and developed this engines.Japs deserve everyone's respect in engineering
BillyVax 2 years ago 4
thought it was always jap made with the rx7, they pulled out of le-mans or something using rotary engines as it was some advantage over competitors.. but the germans unable to solve it technically to pass on to the japs lol germans have crazy engineering skills to :D
Target842 2 years ago 4
Man,Germans gave drive to their bike's sidecars with differentials during WW2...They were the best and still are great.But japs are also crazy.RESPECT TO BOTH!
BillyVax 2 years ago
yea, mazda just met the requirments to put the things in a production car...
darkeyce02 2 years ago
this is a 20b running twin ida injection
just cause it has 4 intakes dont make it 4 rotor
emtrixdk 3 years ago
it has 4 rotor one intake for each. do more research
eclipse3248 3 years ago
yeah i posted in wrong clip
emtrixdk 3 years ago
sorry posted on wrong clip
emtrixdk 3 years ago
No, it's a custom 23A 4 rotor engine. Runs on two PowerFCs (ECUS). Scoot's R'D engine at the moment.
RhodeGeist 3 years ago 2
ChrisHallett83 the rotary gear in the rotary fitting onto the eccentric shaft has a ratio of about 3:1 not 2:1 do ur homework bro. buh yea ur ryt bowt ur other shit gud man haha
jervoistown 3 years ago
How do you alter the valve lift duration's without a camshaft? Do you have to leave them the way they came.
cailforniawoodpusher 3 years ago
They dont have conventional valves, google wankel rotary and hit wiki.
JUSTINMOORE12 3 years ago
justin moore is right, but it is possible to alter the valve's lift duration without a camshaft by relpacing the camshaft with electronic motors, essentially giving an infinitely variable vtec
adityagoyal 3 years ago
You can change the shape of the intake and exhaust ports, look up full and half bridgeport rotaries.
twisteddragyn 3 years ago
that's waht i mean. i lvoe roataries, but i just hear that people with 3rd gen rx7's get apex seal issues and it leaks(it makes common sense since thats what's in constant contacT) why neg me for that?
DaytonRimGuy 3 years ago
i wet myself
supremewhip 3 years ago 2
THIS IS MADNESS
FABARMBOY 3 years ago 3
THIS IS SPARTA!!!!!
imty012 3 years ago 4
THIS IS MAZDA!!!
shazmybot 3 years ago 3
lol men...
Trippi92 3 years ago
kwjkjakjakjkaj xD
algodekalavera88 3 years ago
They do make great race engines though :)
kusza123 3 years ago 3
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Man why aren't rotors in every car? Oh wait they're Less fuel efficient, they burn oil, and are named after a dude called wankel. Piston engines make power every other stroke anyway
kusza123 3 years ago
the oil you are right in that but feul efficient ??? and they make way more power then piston engines les parts to brake down To And waaaaaaaaaaaaaay less maintenance then a piston engine
roxNRG 3 years ago
i love rotaries but they require A LOT of maintanance
DaytonRimGuy 3 years ago
But they're more reliable then conventional piston engines since they have lesser moving parts. Don't know what you're on, but yeah.
RyoKun91 3 years ago