Yup. Intro To Music aka Music History is a shitty class haha. My teacher Clyde Thorpe makes it kewl tho. He's one of those "out there" kind of teachers who's lost in translation through the endless abyss of the ether
I find the terminology used in the comments to this (beautiful) performance somewhat confusing. On scores for this mass, the voices are referred to as (running from top to bottom): Triplum, motetus, tenor, contratenor. Contratenor is the lowest line on the score, though the pitch is often higher than the tenor line. Of course, the triplum and motetum voices are best sung by countertenors or contraltoes. Sopranos and mezzos tend to get sore throats.
@drmgrl11 "Voice crossing" has nothing to do with my comment, even though there is a lot of it in Machaut. My point was that modern usage of the term "countertenor" has little to do with medieval usage of the term "contratenor". A modern countertenor is a man singing in his falsetto voice, and is a high voice. A "countertenor" is very well suited to sing the triplum or motetus part in this. The "contratenor" part in this agnus dei part is actually a high bass part.
@mindpiss the top line you mean is the countertenor, there are two, Jose Hernandez Pastor, which is the 'deeper' countertenor voice in here and Carlos Mena, the top line countertenor =)
It's so difficult to find live performances of medieval music on youtube.... I wonder why is that! I'd love to find videos of Fumeux Fume, Beaute Parfaite, Se Galaas... you know? The 14th century top 40 hits!!!
I can easily dance or listen RAP or any other kind of music, and I will enjoy. Never the less Guillaume de Machot can be everithng but boring. If you think that loving this music means to be snobbish, then I am snobbish and there is no way that I will change, sorry. Olaig
"The study of the history of music and the hearing of masterworks of different epochs will speediest of all cure you of vanity and self-adoration." - Robert Schumann
You always lose some of the range, but if you keep the healthy vocal practice with a coach and stuff, never by yourself, you can keep your timbre untouched, and that would be awesome, try, it will worth it really. ^__~
Congratulations on percieving that this is indeed great music!! I encourage you to dig deeper - there's all kinds of great music in the 600 or so years of "pre-Bach" music available to us. Du Fay for example, and Josquin Des Pres are two of my personal favorites.
Wishing you all the best in your newfound interest!! I strongly recommend Ockeghem (sp?) as well - when you are in a contemplative mood, his music is completely awesom!!
Counter-Tenor Voice can get that high XD Sometimes i hate that it can be my natural tone. I naturally sound higher in voice than one of my own friends who is older than I lol. I am only 16..... And she can Sing Soprano 1 very well, it's just... Singing wise, me and her can hit the same High E.... orally, She has a very deep voice XD She's older by 2 years. I can come off as... wrong in many ways if it was heard lol
there is a huge chasm between the public perception of the middle ages and what they really were. many advances that led to modern society were made during the middle ages.
True. But the lack of known contemporary written history would likely obscure such things. Little is known of the types of lives they lived back then.
The Dark Ages may not necessarily have been a time of backwardness. Closer to the truth was that they were a time of development and territorial expansion. Written history did exist, but the annals are very few and far between, and many I'm sure still haven't been found.
Ho ancora qualche pesso in un DVD che registrai quando Mezzo trasmise. Però la Messa era già iniziata e le parti migliori son quelle che ho postato. Forse ce n'è un'altra. Controllerò. Poi c'è la parte in gregoriano.
What an enchanting comment... indeed Palestrina seems to be a good composer, how about Lassus, Schutz, Monteverdi, Viadana, Alegri and others... Thank you fro bringing a smile.
@olaig100
you are right
PolishCreepers 2 weeks ago
Wow. Spectacularly beautiful. Thank you.
madpie109 2 months ago
Appreciate music. This is beautiful! ):<
mooliciously 3 months ago
Stunning. Thank you for posting!
EraseAllMemory 3 months ago
beautiful
kmfrank75 4 months ago
WTF!!!!!!!!!!!
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WTF!!!!!!!
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WTF!!!!!!
TheTsintaosaurus 4 months ago
Brings me closer to God.
missdawn2011 4 months ago
Ooft, tough crowd. I love de Machaut's music. <3
HollyBlad 5 months ago
damn niggers aint using tritone shiiiiit
JimJimJimNL 5 months ago
beautiful. thank you for sharing this.
pixelcurious 8 months ago
Yup. Intro To Music aka Music History is a shitty class haha. My teacher Clyde Thorpe makes it kewl tho. He's one of those "out there" kind of teachers who's lost in translation through the endless abyss of the ether
illuminatis3rdeye 9 months ago
I cannot believe our mouths can make such sound.
batain 10 months ago
Thanks for this. I love Machaut, but frankly, don't you all suspect that the vocalists of his time sounded nothing at all like this?
2300skiddo 10 months ago
@2300skiddo and what are they supposed to sound like then
drmgrl11 9 months ago
@2300skiddo then?
drmgrl11 1 month ago
why didn't they have dubstep back then
Komadin 11 months ago 3
Castrati?
MarcoAJuarez 11 months ago
@MarcoAJuarez that wasn't until later, and was mostly practiced in Italy. It's their falsetto voices
drmgrl11 9 months ago
I find the terminology used in the comments to this (beautiful) performance somewhat confusing. On scores for this mass, the voices are referred to as (running from top to bottom): Triplum, motetus, tenor, contratenor. Contratenor is the lowest line on the score, though the pitch is often higher than the tenor line. Of course, the triplum and motetum voices are best sung by countertenors or contraltoes. Sopranos and mezzos tend to get sore throats.
Thank you for posting this.
Minotaurion 1 year ago
@Minotaurion voice crossing. used as early as 1100.
drmgrl11 9 months ago
@drmgrl11 "Voice crossing" has nothing to do with my comment, even though there is a lot of it in Machaut. My point was that modern usage of the term "countertenor" has little to do with medieval usage of the term "contratenor". A modern countertenor is a man singing in his falsetto voice, and is a high voice. A "countertenor" is very well suited to sing the triplum or motetus part in this. The "contratenor" part in this agnus dei part is actually a high bass part.
Minotaurion 5 months ago
Excelente , las voces estas perfectamente empastadas ... gracias por compartir este video ...
verofandi 1 year ago
Superba
Daviide64 1 year ago
Medievil Era
kolmerD 1 year ago
which one is singing the top line?
Impressive
mindpiss 1 year ago
@mindpiss the top line you mean is the countertenor, there are two, Jose Hernandez Pastor, which is the 'deeper' countertenor voice in here and Carlos Mena, the top line countertenor =)
starbreez3 1 year ago
It's so difficult to find live performances of medieval music on youtube.... I wonder why is that! I'd love to find videos of Fumeux Fume, Beaute Parfaite, Se Galaas... you know? The 14th century top 40 hits!!!
Subtilior74 1 year ago 5
Was guillaume the first musical director for the notre dame cathedral?
bay224 1 year ago
this is definitely better than ANY other kind of music
constellationcancer 1 year ago
I can easily dance or listen RAP or any other kind of music, and I will enjoy. Never the less Guillaume de Machot can be everithng but boring. If you think that loving this music means to be snobbish, then I am snobbish and there is no way that I will change, sorry. Olaig
olaig100 1 year ago 18
@olaig100 Nah Machaut is super boring!! Hidegard better x20
CrRonaldo17 1 year ago
@olaig100 Just to support what you say...
"The study of the history of music and the hearing of masterworks of different epochs will speediest of all cure you of vanity and self-adoration." - Robert Schumann
gbmcvee 1 year ago 3
If so, don't watch and listen. Just switch the page and you can find a lot of rap music and dance it if you whish...very simple.
olaig100 1 year ago 2
Don't be snobby like he's being, there's alot of intellectual and experiment rap music.
123JoeD456 1 year ago
Boring -_-
pappeskemann 1 year ago
Oh dear, the resemblance is uncanny.
fortyblinks 2 years ago
You always lose some of the range, but if you keep the healthy vocal practice with a coach and stuff, never by yourself, you can keep your timbre untouched, and that would be awesome, try, it will worth it really. ^__~
starbreez3 2 years ago
Midgets in Oingo boingo's videos are funny lol !
92jacko 2 years ago
You kids and your ars nova...
tlwalrus 2 years ago 44
@tlwalrus and ars anticca
MrJukaJukic 9 months ago
I love the French Ars Nova style! Machaut's polyphonic chansons are just as wonderful. :)
bubblykings 2 years ago 3
That's great ! Isn't the conductor Antoine Gerber, the leader of the ensemble "Diabolus in musica" ?
AlainNaigeon 2 years ago 2
Wonderful performance, even if I think it should be in a church not a concert hall.
baldwalrus7 2 years ago
It is in a church, The abbey church of Solemes
wowzers5432109 2 years ago
Really! Oops, my mistake. :-)
baldwalrus7 2 years ago
Wow! i´m completely astonished with this monumental work i ´ve just discovered!
i´ve never seen such thing in the middle age music before.
He must be the medieval Bach!
janstamic 2 years ago 2
Congratulations on percieving that this is indeed great music!! I encourage you to dig deeper - there's all kinds of great music in the 600 or so years of "pre-Bach" music available to us. Du Fay for example, and Josquin Des Pres are two of my personal favorites.
HolyMotherofGrid 2 years ago 3
I'm just starting to get into this kind of music, so thank you for the advice. I'll be finding some Du Fay and Josquin Des Pres today.
endora60 2 years ago
Wishing you all the best in your newfound interest!! I strongly recommend Ockeghem (sp?) as well - when you are in a contemplative mood, his music is completely awesom!!
HolyMotherofGrid 2 years ago
Great. One question - why there is a conductor? It looks weird when somebody is conducting such a small ensemble!!!
bogienka 2 years ago
i really thought there was a girl there because of the sound
sp27weirdnumber 2 years ago
Ok, but you know, many pop music male singers can sing with such a high voice too ;-)
Women were not allowed to sing in churches in this time (that was our own "islamic" period, LOL).
AlainNaigeon 2 years ago 2
Counter-Tenor Voice can get that high XD Sometimes i hate that it can be my natural tone. I naturally sound higher in voice than one of my own friends who is older than I lol. I am only 16..... And she can Sing Soprano 1 very well, it's just... Singing wise, me and her can hit the same High E.... orally, She has a very deep voice XD She's older by 2 years. I can come off as... wrong in many ways if it was heard lol
fatalframe95 2 years ago
Wunderbar
deirfnhaW 3 years ago
is this Agnus Dei?
ttpatitah 3 years ago
no, "Gloria" as per my Music: The Art of Listening" textbook (Ferris, 6ed.)
jacobsoe 2 years ago
fantastic polyphonic mass composed in 1350,during the ars nova movement by gillaume de machaut
beethomozart 3 years ago
Absolutely sublime!!
WOW!!!
atmosphere1823 3 years ago
I have just added a work of my own for four part men's chorus.
I am not as good a singer as these guys, especially on the low end, but I hope that fans of this kind of music will find my work of interest.
lovelymess 3 years ago
I sang the 2nd countertenor line (officialy tenor line) too, i can do better:)
gehaktmolen 3 years ago
holy meter ;)
mebeshaba 3 years ago
triple meter?
mongoosedriver1 3 years ago
yes.
kifu 3 years ago
yes triple meter
kifu 3 years ago
maravilhoso! I really would like to live in the medieval times
54spiritedwill54 3 years ago 4
Superb, thanks for posting this.
TravBalazs 3 years ago
love this song
featheredmusic 3 years ago
Beautifully sung - somewhat reminiscent of the Hilliards....
Machaut rocks my world....
beanabus77 3 years ago 2
Key word being somewhat.. Hilliards are the divine masters
cuckthefardinals 3 years ago
Beautiful, thank you :-)
mariam04 3 years ago
awesome
jianchengzhu 3 years ago
It's rather unfortunate that so little is known of the medieval era in human history. Machaut is one of the most influential composers of his time.
Connell66 3 years ago
there is a huge chasm between the public perception of the middle ages and what they really were. many advances that led to modern society were made during the middle ages.
intigfx 3 years ago
True. But the lack of known contemporary written history would likely obscure such things. Little is known of the types of lives they lived back then.
The Dark Ages may not necessarily have been a time of backwardness. Closer to the truth was that they were a time of development and territorial expansion. Written history did exist, but the annals are very few and far between, and many I'm sure still haven't been found.
Connell66 3 years ago
Beautifully done, and of course,
Machaut! A great master.
What sublime sounds.
lovelymess 4 years ago
Bellissimo! Un'esecuzione perfetta. Hai anche il resto della messa oltre al Sanctus e Agnus?
TrebleLover 4 years ago
Ho ancora qualche pesso in un DVD che registrai quando Mezzo trasmise. Però la Messa era già iniziata e le parti migliori son quelle che ho postato. Forse ce n'è un'altra. Controllerò. Poi c'è la parte in gregoriano.
Olaig
olaig100 4 years ago
Grazie ;-)
TrebleLover 4 years ago
Complimenti!!!!
radiodani 4 years ago
W*O*N*D*E*R*F*U*L !!!!
ricardofrantz 4 years ago
FANTASTIC! Thank you so much for posting it.
kiya3 4 years ago
Nat at all. It was my pleasure. I am glad you enjoy. Ciao
Olaig
olaig100 4 years ago
Sublimissime...
rollinatien 4 years ago
Whoo, that short guy really gets into it! Great singing/chanting, Machaut is splendid. Palestrina does some good stuff too.
GrlLeastLikelyTo 4 years ago
What an enchanting comment... indeed Palestrina seems to be a good composer, how about Lassus, Schutz, Monteverdi, Viadana, Alegri and others... Thank you fro bringing a smile.
kiya3 4 years ago
maravilhoso! I really would like to live in the medieval times just because of it! Guillaume de Machaut est merveilleux!
khalileltarik 4 years ago
Amazing! This song really moved me!
-Nick P.
krimzonblade 4 years ago
Che bravi .
arok100 4 years ago