Einsturzende Neubauten - Boyd Rice - Genocide Organ Doc arte

[ral1334]

Blixa Bargeld may be the more talented one, but as far as cleverness and innovation go, I'd say he and Boyd Rice are equals.

[grodock19]

hat jm. den deutschen arte bericht?

[Medioda]

Z'ont absolument rien compris à Boyd Rice, Arte.

[bethwenner]

Whoever said Neubauten and Blixa are nazis: I am still laughing. Look up "Nick Blixa Where The Wild Roses Grow" and maybe you'll get it.

[XSUPERIORBLACKMANx]

Neo-Fascists/Neo-Socialists and Negro killers... support for u brodaz

[dawnatilla]

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[evgad87]

what song is blixa doing at the beginning?

[icksaes]

@evgad87 it's "yü-gung" from the "Halber Mensch" abum...

[darfi]

fütter mein ego fütter mein ego

[hlamerz]

gibts den beitrag irgendwo auch auf deutsch? arte ist doch ein deutsch/französischer sender

[atomicdruid]

But he hangs out with famous celebrity satanists like Marilyn Manson.

[atomicdruid]

His propensity for fascist imagery and racist ideology is rooted in a desire to shock people into paying attention to him. He hasn't a fraction of the talent and artistic fire that Einsturzende Neubaten possess. He's a manipulative, drunk, lonely, self-aggrandizing, fifty something year old man who lives with his mom. He uses people. He's a woman beater and a deadbeat father who hasn't made more than 2 phone calls to his teenage son with special needs in 10 years.

[vollsticks]

@atomicdruid You said that better than I ever could! Kudos.

[atomicdruid]

The truth is Boyd Rice is no nazi. He's educated, clever, charismatic, and articulate. He has pulled off some of the greatest pranks of our time. He's an influential recording artist and one of a handful of originators of a style of music copied by thousands of artists around the world to this day. Like Paris Hilton, who has become famous through media sensationalism of her "shocking" and "controversial" antics in her personal life, Boyd Rice is a pseudo-celebrity-phenomenon.

[WhereThereDude]

if blixa or the band are nazis or not is not my problem. i like E.N music. but they can do everything they want with their lifes.

[CrazyJoAgain]

You have to be fucking kidding me. Even the dumbest redneck on the Internet would have to be smoking some seriously tainted crystal meth in order to think that Blixa Bargeld would have anything to do with Nazis. If you don't like his music, say so. But the Nazi bullshit is not going to work with this guy. Sorry.

[wizotch]

why did they show heathen album cover from tg tg arent nazis foolish peeple

[jontskinner]

Boyd is a really fascinating guy, he's super intelligent, he's a really interesting guy. He says he's not a Nazi. It's not politics, he just believes in the Darwin theory of survival of the fittest, basically. - Rose McDowall on Boyd Rice

[thirdshift47]

@jontskinner

So basically Boyd Rice is not a Nazi but an Andrew Carnegie Corporate capitalistlol

[xuntermensch]

Ahh, this needs english subtitles.

[opheliasdream85]

bitte auf deutsch... mich würde dich verbindung von herrn rice zu den EN mal interessieren

[pilzfusss]

Einsturzende Neubauten sind ganz extreme Leute, die machen jeden fertig, auch extrem kriminell :-)

[halbermenschot]

en is art, rice is a dork who watched to much "will to power"(hitler probably would have called his stuff entartete kunst or kulturgestotter) and the last thing should be put away somewhere it could't harm anybody. enough said

[efkagore]

Ty vole...to co je za klip :DDD

[Bleumange]

OhmaiGawd they're german death industrialsts, burn the nazis.

[awellfedbottomfeeder]

danke schon !!!!!!!!!

[sweetarwenn]

C'est quoi cette connerie??

[7375U0]

putain merci Arte de faire passer la scène indus pour un gros truc de provocateurs purs et de fascistes en élevant un groupe en héros face à deux exemples aux idéologies de merde, en passant sous silence les monuments industriels comme Throbbing Gristle, SPK, Laibach,, et leurs véritables idéologies qui se cachent derrière la provoc, ou tout simplement, leur putain de créativité. Dorénavant, je chierais sur cette émission.

[simoom37]

@7375U0 enfin quelqu'un qui ouvre les yeux. Je déteste cette façon qu'ils ont de tout amalgamer. Bande de nazEs !!!!!

[simoom37]

@7375U0 j'écoute Boyd Rice, Terobbing Gristle, SPK, Death in June, et plein d'autres et pas une seule fois je n'ai entendu ou lu un message raciste dans leurs textes. Alors que Tracks se penchent un peu plus sur leur sujet... Qu'on ait du mal à accepter que des artistes provoquent avec certains sujets, je peux le concevoir mais il faut savoir aussi bien se renseigner et ne pas se comporter... "en facho" !!!!

[juliengc]

hmm... ils considèrent Throbbing Gristtle comme extrême droite ?!

[noiseklinik]

boyd rice is a social darwinist and misanthropic pro racist idiot. neubauten is art

[groslucas]

Claude Francois est le createur de la musique industrielle...Blixa ne serait rien sans le Genie de Cloclo

[Kartofflesalad]

Can anyone tell me what the song are they playing at 0:09?

[reflectioned]

Einstürzende Neubauten - Fütter mein Ego

[Witchcrownedwithweed]

It's not called Füttern mein Ego, it's called Yü Güng, from the album Halber Mensch

[Madowstone]

Fütter dein Ego.

[z33xd]

yeah boyd rice is just a confused dick

[CnCKane]

Or maybe you just don't get it comrade.

[renr17]

Fuck Boyd Rice.

Mmm, Neubauten.

[ElectricLabel]

Wow, Blixa must be furious about being included in a piece with Boyd Rice.

[fiendishfib]

Contrairement à ce que voudrait nous faire croire ce reportage il n'y a pas de gentils ou de méchants industriels. Il n'y a que de bons ou de mauvais artistes. Manque de chance ceux qu'il présente comme des méchants sont les véritables créateurs de la musique industrielle (Boyd Rice, Throbbing Gristle...).

[ReinhardvonHolst]

It aint art

[OnTheRazorsEdge]

Is there a version of this with English subtitles? Please God?

[nihilofilia]

They play "Die Befindlichkeit des Landes" in the Palast der Republik DVD? Or it's another concert?

[MatysNoha]

Merci pour ce doc, j'avais besoin d'être un peu plus éclairé sur le sujet. Trop court mais très intéressant !

[wolzek]

2:40 - Perversion, horror, death, destruction, and madness -- these are all acceptable themes to use to shock the audience and sell records; but just don't ever suggest that the white race has a right to exist or that not all of Hitler's ideas might have been that far off the mark. That would be going too far.

We live in a society where it's more respectable to exhibit one's sexual deviancy than to say something racist. Remarkable how jewed the West has become since the end of WWII.

[skunkapotamus]

Ive reported your post to the Supreme High Council of Jewish Oversight and Control. You will be evaporated by Israeli satellite laser beam in T minus 3.2.1. seconds....

[gouesmelm]

I think your commentar is very intersesting, Yan Stofurst...

[YanStofurst]

Translation:

Industrial is bad and stupid. These guys are ridiculous and the music sound horrible(it's implied)

I hate that documentarie

[anotherwaytogetold]

Putain! Quelle connerie ce doc! Incroyable...

[WizardofFuzz]

can anyone tell me what blixa is saying bout boyd rice?

[wolzek]

Whatever it was, it wasn't flattering, I'll tell you that much.

[birkenowjenn]

de la merde en barres, ce reportage

[koblegard]

what's up with the nails blixa?

[MCKRUSH]

What I "want" is for Boyd Rice to quit flogging that tedious "Total War" tune and focus on what he does best -- ambient works.

Pretty clueless that this doc lumped Blixa and EN in with crap like "[Limp] Genocide Organ."

[groslucas]

Boyd Rice made a wonderful song with the French Singer Carlos "Tirlipimpon" It is hilarious, racist and very avant-garde

[NeoVolk]

Couldn't agree more.

[Thesagga]

i hope this video got english subtitles :(

[katjohannsen]

Blixa you looked like Peter Lorre for a minute there...no insult intended, but you may say an improvement over the former Holocaust-victim-with-spiked-h­air look. Grinz.

[W4RW017]

I like that blixa

[teckuanime]

Excellent : maintenant j'ai une raison d'acheter des cd de music...

[koblegard]

what does blixa have to do with genocide organ?

[wolzek]

Nothing. It's just that the jewed French media never miss an opportunity to whine and try to scare the sheeple with talk about about big bad scary racists and nazis. It's good for the holocaust industry, you know?

[powerandry]

when i said sieg.. i don't knew  this video talks about extermination of jews but islamic terrorism , it was a stupid comment, i'm sorry.

[groslucas]

Jews and Arabs are the same - They are semites

So Antisemitism is against Jews as well as Arabs (as well as ethiopians!)

[steinber]

Neubauten are cool. Fuck Boyd Rice and his drooling Darwinist bullshit. He's a classic example of someone who uses his intellect to be a fucking jerk-off. Little boys playing dress up to outrage the grown-ups. Fuck right off you pustulent waste of skin.

Fuck. Right. Off.

[groslucas]

If Blixa Bargeld is the Claude Francois of the industrial music, Boyd Rice is the CARLOS of the Avant Garde (Papayou Lele, Tirlipimpon are some of his best hits)

[kagemushette]

how funny to see the audience of this "avant gardist" show by en, with people shaking their head like for any mtv band! Anyone who assisted to non show knows how few we are to stay, as boyd rice starts to play very very loudy sirens to make scary people run away... i don't know if it serve his "far right opinions" but obviously he won't share it with many! No need to translate this bad documented and poorly thought tv show, better forget it and watch di6 in italy for instance (it's free !).

[kagemushette]

how funny to see the audience of this "avant gardist" show by en, with people shaking their head like for any mtv band! Anyone who assisted to non show knows how few we are to stay, as boyd rice starts to play very very loudy sirens to make scary people run away... i don't know if it serve his "far right opinions" but obviously he won't share it with many! No need to translate this bad documented and poorly thought tv show, better forget it and watch di6 in italy for instance (it's free !).

[54spiritedwill54]

JAWOLL ET OUI! albech menschhh chrules!

[Absinthus]

Hello

[MrsOscarWilde]

lurke moar

[retardbratwurst]

i wish those french people were'nt tlaking over the clip .i did'nt get a word of it!nice video tho..the visual part of the video speaks for itself

[bokadora]

That is your problem. It doesn't have nothing with other costumers here!

[jackshaw]

Translation: Touch my monkey!

[andrearusso89]

can someone translate?! thanks...

[novice8814]

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[COCFAN1985]

lol!

[novice8814]

I am Dieter Mueller of "Sprockets" And I approve this message.

[8244AK75]

I am suprised to see that Arte, such a reputable channel, did very little research and just assume the same crap as all journalists regarding Boyd Rice.

[CircusOfHeaven]

EN? Nazi? haha.. though i've enver understood Boyd Rice's attitude regarding all this stuff, i'd be very glad if someone took some time on explaining me.

[ratoneador]

Who is the stupyd that thinks Neubauten are nazis? LOL

[quimkaos]

lol the retarded that dosent understand french...

[cinestfun]

EN is a scam.

[CunySark]

Tis rather funny how the moral guardians gun for rather ambiguous and inconsequential little music scenes, just so they can feel like their accomplishing something without having to confront the tangible evils of this world.

wait'a go defender's of humanity, your internet babble is saving lives!

[halamedvav]

There is no Nazi party. The threat is created by fools who feel the need to remain frightened. Who would feel this need? Rice is a social Darwinist--he works along side Jews and homosexuals (Zev, R Levi, and D. Pierce come to mind). But continue masking your shortcomings by blaming the shadows you and your ilk create out of your irrational fear. If you want to focus on racism, turn your gaze upon England, Israel, and the US. Stop scape goating recording artists. It is lame, and it is tired.

[posersyouare]

What ever...did you ever go to a live gig? where doorman are boneheads and the crowds mainly nazi fanatic?same as your death in june,, thats not something i read somewhere thats real fact.

[halamedvav]

You are a "tin hatter." Yes I have been to such concerts, and yes bone-heads, and thugs usually work the door at all concert venues. I saw skin-heads working security when I saw Morisey perform. This does not make Morisey a Nazi sympathizer. Truth is what truth decrees. "facts," however, are tenebrous at best. They are lonesome at their worst. Find a legitimate enemy, and then declare war (which is what you desire).

[KingOfUm]

I'm from the US, and I'm constantly having to tell people things to the same effect.

[Trollawk]

@halamedvav

Focus on racism? Your talking about the only countries that has a negative response to racism, where do you get your information? I lived in Japan, some countries on the eastern side of Africa (Comoros, Kenya, Ethiopia) and Central America (lived, and I mean LIVED, not gone on vacation to a hotel). I can tell you, racism is open, in your face, and very, very supported by local and national political parties. You are a fucking retarded fool if you think otherwise!

[Trollawk]

It makes me sick to see people who hate Europe, America, West culture in general, when they are more than obviously the only countries in the world who don't allow racist behavior to go on, not only by political parties but by the people themselves. It's not because you have a few rotten apples like Glenn Beck that all of a sudden we have terror squads doing ethnic cleanings. Get a fucking grip and stop it with your remedial understand of how the world goes round!

[dawnatilla]

@halamedvav UPDATE TO YOUR SPEECH THERE HOMESKILLET...THE NAZI PARTY IS ALIVE AND WELL IN THE US...AFTER THE WAR...THE US TOOK SEVERAL OF THE REICH TO HOLD POSITIONS IN US GOVERNMENT...JOSEPH MENGELE CONTINUED HIS CABALISTIC EXPERIMENTS HERE....MK ULTRA BEING THE MOST NOTABLE AND FUCKED UP. ALSO...ISRAEL AND THE US ARE BASICALLY THE SAME!!! WE CALL IT THE UNITED STATES OF ZION....AND ENGLAND? US AND ISRAEL BED BUDDIES...OR SHOULD I SAY CHILD MOLESTING FUCK BUDDIES (AKA REPTILIAN HYBRIDS)

[XSUPERIORBLACKMANx]

@dawnatilla WE CALL IT UNITED STATED OF NIGGERISTAN!

Communist China will kill all black swine men :3

[Blacknight8850]

Which EN song is it at the start of this piece?

[melibita]

Futter Mein Ego

[Blacknight8850]

Thanks!

[merrywrath]

Actually, it's called "Yu-Gang"

[OneyedSwitch]

Politically correct people always seek for shortcuts as Tracks does to valorize Neubauten. Boyd Rice's work is as complex as controversial. But sheeps keep following

[123spasser123]

who is that Boyd RIce? Somekind of nazi freak or??

[tjmuller]

Explaining boyd rice to you would be like explaining colors to a blind person.

[123spasser123]

It aint hard to explain if he is pro-nazi.. It´s just a ys and no question

[SonOvYmir]

Boyd Rice is a Social Darwinist he admires Nazism and Nazi imagery because it is totally opposed to the Christian-Democratic values that most Westerners adhere to. He actually has several Jewish and Gay friends, but he none the less believes in a society where the strong will rule the weak. Thats what his Nazi artwork is about, Social Darwinism not hatred of any particular race.

[riverrocks]

Boiled Rice? he's a white supremacist neo nazi scumbag. it's no wonder his activities are so closely monitored by the Simon Wiesenthal center and other organizations that monitor hate groups...sad that so many impressionable kids still swallow this pseudo intellectual garbage he spews. He's so full of crap and he's a coward as well. Like you said, it ain't hard to explain if he's a racist or not; he is...i just love the way he tries to skate around the issue. Total asshole.

[Absinthus]

Shame on you. Cool video.

[dreckstube]

Other than that they talk about never having smashed supporting pillar, having all four tires on the tour bus cut open, being critical of architecture, never having planned on deliberately destroying anything particular, like walls for example, as it had always come natural, having with time lost that kind of naivety and frivolousness, modernism, Soko Ishii's film, artistic freedom and protecting it by having, instead of a label, a website. Which you might want to go to at neubauten dot org.

[laedendi]

Thank you for all your comments!

[dreckstube]

"The playing around with symbols and also the playing around with topics sometimes also hides a wholehearted belief. I know, that (?) ... , that also from the hard core... ..., that actually people like Boyd Rice, that's... ...that's a really brown swamp."

[dreckstube]

and:

„Das ist Avantgarde, wenn das „Avantgarde" nicht so eine schrecklicher, militärisch vorbelasteter Begriff wäre, wenn ich es wirklich bezeichnen würde in einem martialischen Begriff, dann würde ich sagen, das ist... ..., das ist „Deserteur.""

English:

"This is avant-garde, if "avant-garde" weren't such a horrible term, encumbered with military connotation, if I would really denote it witch a martial term, then I would say, that is... ...that is "deserter"."

[dreckstube]

Blixa says:

„Das Spielen mit Symbolen und auch das spielen mit Inhalten verbirgt manchmal auch die ernsthafte Überzeugung. Ich weiß, dass da (?) ..., dass auch aus dem Urgestein... ..., dass da tatsächlich Leute wie Boyd Rice, das ist... ...das ist ganz brauner Sumpf."

[dreckstube]

It explains that whilst shocking, provocative and taboo themes are a staple in industrial music, some use it as an instrument for their extreme right wing ideas and that for certain extreme right groups the sound collage become pretexts for racist propaganda etc.. Quote:

« De leur coté les Neubauten ont toujours pris clairement position contre l'extrême droit. »

English:

The Neubauten, on their part have always clearly taken a position against the extreme right.

[wolzek]

"The Neubauten, on their part have always clearly taken a position against the extreme right."

Clap, clap, clap. Bravo! Maybe next EN can do a cover of John Lennon's "Imagine."

[dreckstube]

Just to avoid some confusion here:

The text starts with :

« Les « Einstürzende Neubauten » ne faisaient que de la provoque, d'autres groupes du milieu « industrial » se prennent très au sérieux : »

In plain English:

The "Einstürzenden" only tried to be provocative, whereas other groups from the "industrial" milieu took themselves very seriously:

So basically the broadcast juxtaposes the Einstürzenden Neubauten with such groups as NON, Boyd Rice and Genocide Organ.

[averilleX]

I'm catching up with Einsturzende Neubauten news after many years, and found this. Can't believe Bargeld appearing alongside the talentless charlatan Rice and sensationalist crap like GO. Is this why the profoundly fantastic Mufti and beautiful, brilliant Marc Chung left EN? If so, they definitely did they right thing.

[wallytheterrible]

Boyd Rice is neither a poser nor an artist.

He is an errand boy

sent by grocery clerks

to collect a bill

[riverrocks]

that's an insult to errand boys who actually contribute something positive to society unlike Boiled Rice.

[groslucas]

Boyd Rice ne vaut pas plus que CARLOS

TOTAL WAR on PAPAYOULELE

Quand BLIXA BARGELD tou le monde sait qu'il n'est que la seconde identite de CLAUDE FRANCOIS..."Si j'avais un marteau"

[LowFidelityFilms]

JAWOLL ET OUI! albech menschhh chrules!

[12Zwolf]

Get rid of the Asiatic posers, their trash isn't art, because someone has multi-body piercings, and/or sick amounts of lead-based white make-up on their face, and body, doesn't make them 'artists'.

Boyd Rice is an Artist! Total War. OY!

Valkyrie Sieg Mourne

[jasonant1]

Total Dork OY

[12Zwolf]

The socially acceptable religions consider piloting stolen aeroplanes into buildings to be 'art-work'. Got 'Kami-Kazi'?

Valkyrie Ziege Mourne

[theallegory]

Yess.. um what does that have to do with Boiled Rice?

There is art in death, but not hatred.

[12Zwolf]

Oh! That's right, the socially acceptable religions have caused the extinction of thousands of plant, and animal species, mutilate the genitalia of children, and use children as f##k-puppets, while waiting for their respective Messiahs, but that's not considered hate. Very Enlightening!

AVE SATANI

Valkyrie Ziege Mourne

[theallegory]

Hmm.. since you obviously know what you're talking about *eye roll*, i'll leave your comment unanswered. I know if i say anything more, it won't get anyway.. plus, YouTube arguments with people this arrogant are a waste of time

[12Zwolf]

And, They're white people,

Deutschland Uber Alles!, Dude!

Valkyrie Ziege Mourne

[enesdeape]

dieses schwule französisch dazwischen!

da versteht man doch kein wort von dem interview! *g*

[anarkroascz8]

Musical Nihilism contains destroyers laws ! Thanks for german philosophy

[Devilstator]

I wish I had arte... thanks so much for sharing! Very interesting documentary!