That story about the driver that killed that kid says a lot about the war. It's like giving candy to the Iraqi people after mowing them down without even thinking about it. Is the world to feel sorry for the soldier at this point or look at the bigger picture?
It really doesn't matter if some soldiers are "good guys".
They shouldn't have attacked Iraq in the first place.
Starting a WAR, killing people in their own country and than saying "They'll be better country in 20 years, because of us" is just typical American ignorance.
Soldiers who defend borders are heroes but soldiers in Iraq did not protect USA's borders.
Instead they were tools of political and economical aggression and NOTHING more.
The soldiers are there on orders. Is it wrong for a soldier to hope that maybe his presence will help in the future? That perhaps his efforts aren't in vain? Many don't believe we should be at war, but they were given a job to do and cannot ignore that. Your ignorance is greater than anybody's in this film. These aren't the guys calling the shots; the film is about human emotion, the struggle to produce a normal response from extraordinary conditions and stimuli.
@ElyseTravelsOn you're missing my point. German SS soldiers in concentration camps were also "on orders" - does this absolves them from what they did? Going to war and hoping that something "good" might come of it is just childish and naive, at best. Nobody pushed them to be in the military - they all volunteered and this was their first mistake. All that follows is just a consequence of that.
Iraq war is not defensive, it's offensive and ethical people do not wage offensive wars. Period.
@infinummjb Many of my close friends are infantrymen in the army, and the obligations they face are usually rationalized by the hope that their actions will help someone in the future. Many don't see combat; a military career is usually a means of progression and opportunity to gain the necessary education and stability. In addition, idealism isn't naive: it's merely a hope for a better outcome. If there were no hope how would society progress?
I don't think you comprehend the sociological ideals of joining the military, in turn being optioned for fighting a war: you only see your own narrow perspective without exploring other options to understand other points of view.
@ElyseTravelsOn Sociological ideas of joining military? It's quite simple - defend the nations' borders. That is all a soldier is meant to do. Nothing more, nothing less.
Helping people abroad is not a task for the army. Want to help - join red cross or become a missionary, but don't spread a false ideology of 'peace with help of a gun'.
Iraqi people don't want foreign soldiers on their soil as much, as American people don't want foreign troops on USA soil. Do you understand this simple fact?
@infinummjb If ethical people do not engage in offensive wars you me and every single human on planet earth comes from a tainted lineage filled with murderous vagabonds. Seriously, name me a nation or race on earth that has never engaged in an offensively based war at some point in history. I dont agree with the motives behind the Iraq war at all, but blaming soldiers who have no personal agenda against the people of Iraq is nothing but ignorance.
@infinummjb Soldiers do not choose their campaigns. The government YOU elected does. If you have a problem with that, you have yourself to blame for fucking that shit up in the first place. Soldiers follow orders, that is literally the most base way to describe what your job as a soldier entails. Government says jump, you say how muthafuckin high sir.
@CyrustheVirus1234 First of all I never vote for people that send troops abroad. It is as simple as that.
Secondly you are right, soldiers don't need to think - they need to obey. Just like cattle.
The more mindless the soldier the better.
"The lowest aim in your life is to become a soldier. The good soldier never tries to distinguish right from wrong. He never thinks; never reasons; he only obeys." - Jack London
Soldiers "only" follow orders - I agree with you and rest my case.
@infinummjb Ok, how about I put it this way. Are there jobs out there that require people to do things that maybe if they had the choice they wouldnt? Take a cop for example. Maybe he sees you breaking a law he doesnt particularly agree with. Should he let you go? Fuck no he shouldnt. He should do his job and haul your ass to jail or write you a ticket or whatever. Lots of jobs make people do things other people might even consider immoral. Bottom line is, they were SENT without choice.
@infinummjb Or maybe a banker. You cant pay off the ol' loan on your car so mr banker has no choice but so say, sorry bud but you aint got no car anymore. That guy now has a problem just getting to work to make money to pay off his loan anyway. Your throwing him into shit creek without even so much as a boat, let alone a paddle. But thats life. Thats your job. The only difference is you cant up and quit the military. Find me a person who can do no wrong and ill shit a rubix cube.
Go US! Fuck that shit up!!! If you have watched the movie, the end will make a load of sense. If the US needs oil, TAKE IT! Those americans that oppose the war are dumb as hell, how else will they keep getting the lifestyle they have? In this world, its survival of the fittest, and the US is on top.
Americans are fat, disgusting piece of inbred and mixed race shit! Americans are ignorant, insular, brainwashed and misguided morons....just like the U.S. troops....they are all misguided and brainwashed, but that is what the U.S. government and U.S. military can do to poor little redneck boys that have no future.
And of course make them into a person that is worth something. But of course that is all bull and it does nothing to enlist. Oh dick head aka EarthCitizen, you forget that the military accepts anyone, that includes people who pass high school, pass college, and just want to help this country and others. But no they are a piece of trash to im going to take it. And i like how you think every soldier just kills and rapes everything. Well all i can tell is that you need to get the facts straigh
Americans are fat, disgusting piece of inbred and mixed race shit! Americans are ignorant, insular, brainwashed and misguided morons....just like the U.S. troops....they are all misguided and brainwashed, but that is what the U.S. government and U.S. military can do to poor little redneck boys that have no future.
@1EarthCitizen Those low life pieces of trash, forms the best, the strongest, the fastest and most disciplined military in the world... Can you say that about the useless trash that join your National Defense Force / Army?
@1EarthCitizen no they won't trust me i was in meps and seen plenty of ppl get turned down and get a els (entry level seperation) because of health and criminal records so don't say that and have a nice day
U.S. troops are child killers, criminals, low life trash, nazi's, thieves, uncultured idiots, brainwashed and misguided morons, ignorant high school drop-outs, scum, evil pigs, baby killers, sickos, perverts, sexual deviants, child molesters, sadistic rapist pigs, unprofessional morons, disgraceful idiots and DISHONORABLE PIGS!!! U.S. TROOPS ARE THE REAL TERRORISTS!!! U.S. TROOPS HAVE DISGRACED AMERICA!!! U.S. TROOPS ARE THE SCUM OF THE EARTH!! U.S. TROOPS ARE CHILD KILLERS AND RAPIST PIGS!
Actually, to be honest, what 1EarthCitizen is saying is the view shared by most of the world. But this gov. and military are corporate muppets, the soldiers don't know what the big picture is.. they're just doing the job they're trained for. Basically, follow an order w/o question.
!EarthCitizen....I faught with this unit in iraq you say what you want that is your right but rember ! thing that is people like us that gave you that right. so if you cant stand behind us feel free to stand in front of us wolf36d
1EarthCitizen...... you are entitled to your opinion. But.......If soldiers don't stand at the front lines for our country then who will? Certainly not you. I understand frustration..."this isn't our war to fight" maybe you are right, BUT soldiers are the final defense. I can tell you I am enlisting myself regardless of where I will be sent regardless if i die and regardless if people like you disrespect our country. You wouldn't last one day in Iraq as a citizen. we are there to fix the broken.
@Catfishoutlaw1x: You're enlisting? You must be some low life redneck piece of trash that can't afford to go to college....and, you must be some sicko pervert that has a passion to kill people and rape.
U.S. troops are child killers, criminals, low life trash, nazi's, thieves, uncultured idiots, brainwashed and misguided morons, ignorant high school drop-outs, scum, evil pigs, baby killers, sickos, perverts, sexual deviants, child molesters, sadistic rapist pigs, unprofessional morons, disgraceful idiots and DISHONORABLE PIGS!!! U.S. TROOPS ARE THE REAL TERRORISTS!!! U.S. TROOPS HAVE DISGRACED AMERICA!!! U.S. TROOPS ARE THE SCUM OF THE EARTH!! U.S. TROOPS ARE CHILD KILLERS AND RAPIST PIGS!
ur just mad because the u.s troops ran a train on your mom LMFAO and sir your the disgrace for falsly accusing those troops who fight for the protection for our land they fight so your dumbass can be safe they see things your pussy ass wouldnt even bare to see so if your going to be calling them all those things you are telling them be sure you grow a pair of balls before you start talking shit
ummm maybe cause if people don't like the u.s. and talk shit even though they are lucky to be here.. then... leave.. its just that easy. My opinion is this, i support our troops im in the navy so of course i would. I love the front line dudes they have their jobs and they do it well. However I have no fucking idea why we are still there.. but as long as we have bro's out here then i support it and whatever they need to do.. i guess. :) have a good day {samae}
oh, i thought your first message was about the video not the comments, in that case yeah fuck 'em, a lot of 14 year old idiots talking shit about things they have no buisness talking about.....of course i have to call bullshit on myself as well because i'm not even american, anyway i hope those guys stay safe and sorry for the misunderstanding. P.S: i just went through some of the comments, holy crap there are a lot of idiots on the internet
You're a fucking idiot, you don't shit, if someone is shooting at me, i dont care if hes 5 years old, im fucking killing him. You're an idiot you stupid fuck, fuck off, go kill your self. US is the greatest country in the World, everyone hates it because they are jealous, end of story. Better than europe, middle east, south central america, africa, etc etc, OWNED BITCH.
LOL, you're a douchebag! Read your own ridiculous comment a couple of times and let it sink in.
AMUHRICA's image is being RUINED by idiots like you. People hate the US because of our foreign policy.
THINK for a moment - those people in the countries we are supposedly, "liberating" are people just like us. If some foreign army came here and fucked with us we'd fight back - not out of jealousy, but out of personal pride/anger/etc.
Yeah America sucks so much that people around the world are dying to come here and live a normal life without bombs going off or people telling them what to do. If America sucked so much no one would want to come here. Like it or not, America is the most powerful country in the world right now, and gives better opportunities to everyone than any other country, hey faggot GG. Nice try. Go read up on history then talk shit.
I never said America sucked you stupid meathead douchebag.
I said people hate us because of what our government does to them.
That doesn't mean *everyone* hates us. And it doesn't mean that they truly hate our 'country' - they just hate our government.
I mean, judging by how fucking retarded you are, if someone hurt your family or god forbid, killed them, you'd somehow become even MORE retarded and hate the killers, their family, their country, their favorite brand of cereal, everything.
@TheGhostfacekilla86: Only people of color from poor, third world countries move to the USA now....that is why whites (Europeans) in the USA are becoming the minority. Most countries in the European Union (western Europe) have the highest standards of livings in the world and the highest per capita incomes in the world. Even Canadians live better than Americans. America only gets smelly Mexicans, Asians, Africans, Arabs, central Americans....no white Europeans anymore. USA is over rated!
Ok why are you talking about living in a high standard when your probably a fucking redneck trailer trash bitch living off the welfare atleast the fucking immigrants in this country work fucking harder then any fucking euro white they become nothing but fake wannabe black gangsta bitches just watching jerry springer and waiting for their fucking foodstamps
Americans are fat, disgusting piece of inbred and mixed race shit! Americans are ignorant, insular, brainwashed and misguided morons....just like the U.S. troops....they are all misguided and brainwashed, but that is what the U.S. government and U.S. military can do to poor little redneck boys that have no future.
@mrmidget94: America is bankrupt and trillions in debt. The U.S. is heading for economic collapse and the worthless U.S. dollar is going to collapse soon! America is an OVERRATED shit hole!!! U.S. troops ARE NOT heros, they are child killers, rapists, nazis, and dishonorable pigs. They come back to the U.S. with tons of mental problems....that is because they gang rape and kill young Iraqi girls (and boys) as young as age 8 and they murder innocent civilians! U.S. TROOPS ARE MENTAL CASES!
Yeah I'm an Iraq Veteran and if you said that to my face I really wouldn't care because I know you don't know what you're talking about so by all means keep blaming everyone else for your shitty life.
@1EarthCitizen Wow , your hate is so deep, you generalize an entire country based on the decisions that our corrupt govt makes ? good job, asshole. You have deep mental issues.
its hard 4 most people in this century to comprehend war. putting on someone elses shoes is impossible in an era where everyone "KNOWS". calloused minds. so few are aware how young men and women like me and you come back from war scarred! lol i laugh in complete awe at the ignorance and plain stupidity. you people (U KNOW WHO U R) are the reason we are all doomed to repeat history. OPINIONS ARE DEBATABLE! 100% FACT IS NOT! PLZ WAKE UP WORLD!
Can anyone tell me the length of basic training, time requirements for service and additional training for specific roles involved? I'm in Australian Army Reserves, just doing a comparison.
I am in the National Guard and can tell you that everyone goes through the same 9 weeks BCT (Basic Combat Training) but then after that , your second phase of training (Advanced Individual Training) varies in length depending on your MOS(job). For infantrymen, AIT is around 2 more months after basic.
What a waste of time, didn't really learn anything new. I mean these stories are meaningful to the people involved but from a third person they are as boring as the next person's gossip. She didn't do anything new, she didn't examine this conflict in light of US foreign policy like 'we we fight', didn't examine the conflict from a cultural perspective like 'soundtrack to war', many more possibilities, but she didn't go anywhere.
doc wasn't about her or any of those things you listed. duh. i appreciated hearing from troops w/out filter of pentagon/admin spokespersons or media imbeds.
Lets not forget that G.W. Bush lied about WMD's. Let's not forget that Haliburton, KBR, Blackwater and many other companies are profiting immensely from this war. These soldiers are patriots following orders from the higher ups who know better.
Well, these films aren't free to produce. I'm sure there was a profit somewhere, but I doubt that that was the motivation for most of those who made it happen.
Underneith the facade we're all just overgrown children fumbling around in this damned crazy world and, yes, even big tough soldiers need hugs sometimes. Judging from your attitude, however, it's no surprise that nobody wants one from you.
@soviet86 You are really that ignorant. Notice how that was not a question? Fucking idiot. To understand you would have to be there. But I guess for now, and the rest of your life you will never know. Go back to video games or mcdonalds or whereever it is you hang out.
I smell death burn body for 3 weeks I remember the anger the wish to strike back
to kill those are responsible of this coward action and Bush give to us what we wish for
but this is just another USS Liberty
Today we learn we kill people they don't have nothing to do with 9/11 and you ask me if I support my troops? well I could lie to you by saying yes I do but I can't lie to myself..
well our soldiers they fight in Iraq because our government they tell them to do so
Iraq people they fight to have the right to live
I'm not a journalist or documentary maker
you don't need to be a rocker sciences
to know why we are in Iraq and why very soon
we going to bomb Iran..
if you can't understand why Iraq and then Iran maybe you should listen people like Lindsey Williams before complain the fact people are not connect to our soldiers.
I have seen this documentary around on DVD shelves for about a month, and I've been hesitant to check it out since a lot of times people attempt to make a political point rather than just tell a personal story from the perspective of the soldiers on the ground. This is obviously not the case with this documentary. As a veteran myself, I applaud Miss Scranton for bringing up the disconnect between what reality we see on the ground and what is portrayed in the mass media.
2.2 million? the figure is more like 655,000 In any case, how many where the results of coalition troop action? 0.1%, most of the death are do to sectarian violence not US action.
Second the Geneva convention does not outlaw the use of cluster bombs just google it. Also they were used against Iraqi troops during the war and most of the civ casualties are the result of unexploded munitions.
1. The UK allowed the US to use its bases so no international law is against that.
2. Media outlets? show me
3/5 US as NEVER deliberately attacked civilians. A few incidences does not indicate intention.
4. The law also states that it is against the law to hide near civilian population. No munition can discriminate between civilian and combatant. The US used the best of available smart bombs. This war had almost no civilian casualties (during the opp. not the occupation).
The UN is a joke though a noble idea. It is used as a platform for morons to give their two cents.
Correct me if i am wrong but the US was not the only nations that CONCLUDED that the war was necessary there where 40 nations that contributed troops which includes most if not all of Europe. So the fact that the Arab world disagreed to be invaded does not make the war illegal.
You may not remember but I do. All those "other countries" decided that the war was necessary based on the word of our administration. Our president and his administration kept avoiding showing any real evidence all the while insisting that they had irrefutable proof. Remember, Powell, Cheney, Rice and the gang bombarding the media with the message that they had proof but couldn't show it because of security reasons.
Only morons will make a decision to go to war just because of someones word. EVERYONE though that there were WMDs in Iraq and if the US didn't wait for months before invading after having decided to invade they might have found some. Besides, most of these nations still do contribute to the war which means that they still support it even though no WMD where found.
Please show any evidence that what you're saying is true. Why exactly did "EVERYONE" think that there were WMD and why exactly don't you feel that it was the US who pushed that idea?
I think that when the President of the United States tells people that he has irrefutable evidence of something but that it can't be shared because of security reasons that he should be taken at his word.
When the president of a nations speaks the people may believe him but heads of other nations have the brains to not exept everything that is said as true, especially sense they know the nature of politics.
You have to understand that the US is not the only nation with intelligences services.
Most nations believed that they had WMDs because it was reported that Iraq used such weapons against Iran and the Kurds.
Why do you feel that it was the US who pushed that idea?
The information was out years ago and was spread by Iran who was the victim of such attack and at war with Iraq at the time. Whether that information was credible or not we cannot know for sure.
It is also believed that the US supplied Iraq with chemical and biological weapons. Which is probably Terrorist or anti US propaganda but many people seem to buy it.
I personally feel that nothing should be enforced on people. Iraq, like most middle eastern countries, are not ready nor interested in western political systems. THEY MUST DO IT ON THEIR OWN and we can only help if they ask for it.
did i really say conservative? i cant find it. i probably meant something else i didn't know how to spell.
That is one of the biggest mistakes that nations/ people in power make. They assume that they can change peoples way of life. THey assume that they way is better and try to enforce it on others.
yes he did by murdering his people! That no better. At least they chose to do this. Maybe they need this, most of the greatest nations in the world started by a civil war.
I am sure we will respond harshly but we will not start killing each other if will be killing anyone it would be the Gov't.
im sure they had a plan it just wasn't very good. They made assumptions that where not true and under estimated the Sectarianism of the country.
Both gov`t are own by corporations(not sure about Britan but the US for sure) like the Military industries, Halliburton, and the likes. The war is for oil (Saddam stopped trading oil in USD just has the planing started) that both depend on and military contracts.
Yes the US gave the weapons to him therefore they where there. If they hadn't waited three months (or so) to invade they might have found them too.
Invading Iran would be for the war on terror as Iran is the larger supplier and founder of terrorism.
I didn't say that the US had nothing to do with it, learn to read! The US put the Iraqis in a position where they can choose peace or war the Iraqis chose war.
We both know that the war was initially and probably still is about oil and corporal profit like all of US wars (which is sick). But that does not change the FACT that removing Saddam was a good thing and that the Iraqis CHOSE to murder each other. If the Iraqis have chosen peace Iraq would have been a huge step forward in the region it could still be. Not to mentions strategic position against Iran and Syria which would probably be next.
Dude i am not for the war. I think the US should not have invaded Iraq (if anyone should have been invaded it would be Iran or Saudi Arabia these would have at least made some sense) but living will not solve anything.
Wake up?? why i turn the TV on and I see Iraqi (or some foreign crazy terrorist where ever they come from maybe Iran or something) suicide bomber killing dozens of people or Sunni and Shia Muslims killing each other over whose version of the quran is better. I don't see american bombs killing not intentionally any way and most defiantly not in comparable numbers!
The strongest support for the troops is, if you speak out againt the war in public and do what ever you can do to end it. The only thing someone can win in a war is peace. All other objectives are drown in the bloodbath.
YES, i am sure that when the troops come home to hear EVERYBODY saying that the friends that they just lost died for nothing is a strong motivational support!
Wow, I have to see this film now. An eye opener for sure. If only people in power understood what they put soldiers through when they send them to war.
thanks for the great post. my brother just returned from a second tour with the marines in iraq and most people underestimate the type of situation that he dealt with over there because they incorrectly categorize the type of horror that is witnessed there by the troops.
Google "Henry Kissinger's quote military men".
joythemonkey 1 week ago
6:27 James Randi - he gets around for an old timer
Youaresofullofshite 1 month ago
That story about the driver that killed that kid says a lot about the war. It's like giving candy to the Iraqi people after mowing them down without even thinking about it. Is the world to feel sorry for the soldier at this point or look at the bigger picture?
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Don't try use a soldier's emotions to whitewash the horrible intentions of going in there in the first place. Comment from an Asian
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This movie is nonsense.
It really doesn't matter if some soldiers are "good guys".
They shouldn't have attacked Iraq in the first place.
Starting a WAR, killing people in their own country and than saying "They'll be better country in 20 years, because of us" is just typical American ignorance.
Soldiers who defend borders are heroes but soldiers in Iraq did not protect USA's borders.
Instead they were tools of political and economical aggression and NOTHING more.
No excuses.
infinummjb 1 year ago
@infinummjb
The soldiers are there on orders. Is it wrong for a soldier to hope that maybe his presence will help in the future? That perhaps his efforts aren't in vain? Many don't believe we should be at war, but they were given a job to do and cannot ignore that. Your ignorance is greater than anybody's in this film. These aren't the guys calling the shots; the film is about human emotion, the struggle to produce a normal response from extraordinary conditions and stimuli.
ElyseTravelsOn 1 year ago
@ElyseTravelsOn you're missing my point. German SS soldiers in concentration camps were also "on orders" - does this absolves them from what they did? Going to war and hoping that something "good" might come of it is just childish and naive, at best. Nobody pushed them to be in the military - they all volunteered and this was their first mistake. All that follows is just a consequence of that.
Iraq war is not defensive, it's offensive and ethical people do not wage offensive wars. Period.
infinummjb 1 year ago
@infinummjb Many of my close friends are infantrymen in the army, and the obligations they face are usually rationalized by the hope that their actions will help someone in the future. Many don't see combat; a military career is usually a means of progression and opportunity to gain the necessary education and stability. In addition, idealism isn't naive: it's merely a hope for a better outcome. If there were no hope how would society progress?
ElyseTravelsOn 1 year ago
I don't think you comprehend the sociological ideals of joining the military, in turn being optioned for fighting a war: you only see your own narrow perspective without exploring other options to understand other points of view.
ElyseTravelsOn 1 year ago
@ElyseTravelsOn Sociological ideas of joining military? It's quite simple - defend the nations' borders. That is all a soldier is meant to do. Nothing more, nothing less.
Helping people abroad is not a task for the army. Want to help - join red cross or become a missionary, but don't spread a false ideology of 'peace with help of a gun'.
Iraqi people don't want foreign soldiers on their soil as much, as American people don't want foreign troops on USA soil. Do you understand this simple fact?
infinummjb 1 year ago
@infinummjb If ethical people do not engage in offensive wars you me and every single human on planet earth comes from a tainted lineage filled with murderous vagabonds. Seriously, name me a nation or race on earth that has never engaged in an offensively based war at some point in history. I dont agree with the motives behind the Iraq war at all, but blaming soldiers who have no personal agenda against the people of Iraq is nothing but ignorance.
CyrustheVirus1234 9 months ago
@infinummjb Soldiers do not choose their campaigns. The government YOU elected does. If you have a problem with that, you have yourself to blame for fucking that shit up in the first place. Soldiers follow orders, that is literally the most base way to describe what your job as a soldier entails. Government says jump, you say how muthafuckin high sir.
CyrustheVirus1234 10 months ago
@CyrustheVirus1234 First of all I never vote for people that send troops abroad. It is as simple as that.
Secondly you are right, soldiers don't need to think - they need to obey. Just like cattle.
The more mindless the soldier the better.
"The lowest aim in your life is to become a soldier. The good soldier never tries to distinguish right from wrong. He never thinks; never reasons; he only obeys." - Jack London
Soldiers "only" follow orders - I agree with you and rest my case.
infinummjb 10 months ago
@infinummjb
wow.. wowwww
cayterr 2 months ago
@infinummjb Ok, how about I put it this way. Are there jobs out there that require people to do things that maybe if they had the choice they wouldnt? Take a cop for example. Maybe he sees you breaking a law he doesnt particularly agree with. Should he let you go? Fuck no he shouldnt. He should do his job and haul your ass to jail or write you a ticket or whatever. Lots of jobs make people do things other people might even consider immoral. Bottom line is, they were SENT without choice.
CyrustheVirus1234 9 months ago
@infinummjb Or maybe a banker. You cant pay off the ol' loan on your car so mr banker has no choice but so say, sorry bud but you aint got no car anymore. That guy now has a problem just getting to work to make money to pay off his loan anyway. Your throwing him into shit creek without even so much as a boat, let alone a paddle. But thats life. Thats your job. The only difference is you cant up and quit the military. Find me a person who can do no wrong and ill shit a rubix cube.
CyrustheVirus1234 9 months ago
Im in this video
lethalkingpin 1 year ago
Whats up with her legs?
Lanuovavita 1 year ago
Go US! Fuck that shit up!!! If you have watched the movie, the end will make a load of sense. If the US needs oil, TAKE IT! Those americans that oppose the war are dumb as hell, how else will they keep getting the lifestyle they have? In this world, its survival of the fittest, and the US is on top.
TimeGap79 1 year ago
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Americans are fat, disgusting piece of inbred and mixed race shit! Americans are ignorant, insular, brainwashed and misguided morons....just like the U.S. troops....they are all misguided and brainwashed, but that is what the U.S. government and U.S. military can do to poor little redneck boys that have no future.
1EarthCitizen 1 year ago
And of course make them into a person that is worth something. But of course that is all bull and it does nothing to enlist. Oh dick head aka EarthCitizen, you forget that the military accepts anyone, that includes people who pass high school, pass college, and just want to help this country and others. But no they are a piece of trash to im going to take it. And i like how you think every soldier just kills and rapes everything. Well all i can tell is that you need to get the facts straigh
kingnmaster 1 year ago
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Americans are fat, disgusting piece of inbred and mixed race shit! Americans are ignorant, insular, brainwashed and misguided morons....just like the U.S. troops....they are all misguided and brainwashed, but that is what the U.S. government and U.S. military can do to poor little redneck boys that have no future.
1EarthCitizen 1 year ago
The U.S. military will take in any low life piece of trash that breathes!!!!
1EarthCitizen 1 year ago
@1EarthCitizen Those low life pieces of trash, forms the best, the strongest, the fastest and most disciplined military in the world... Can you say that about the useless trash that join your National Defense Force / Army?
TimeGap79 1 year ago
@1EarthCitizen no they won't trust me i was in meps and seen plenty of ppl get turned down and get a els (entry level seperation) because of health and criminal records so don't say that and have a nice day
jburner112 1 year ago
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U.S. troops are child killers, criminals, low life trash, nazi's, thieves, uncultured idiots, brainwashed and misguided morons, ignorant high school drop-outs, scum, evil pigs, baby killers, sickos, perverts, sexual deviants, child molesters, sadistic rapist pigs, unprofessional morons, disgraceful idiots and DISHONORABLE PIGS!!! U.S. TROOPS ARE THE REAL TERRORISTS!!! U.S. TROOPS HAVE DISGRACED AMERICA!!! U.S. TROOPS ARE THE SCUM OF THE EARTH!! U.S. TROOPS ARE CHILD KILLERS AND RAPIST PIGS!
1EarthCitizen 1 year ago
Actually, to be honest, what 1EarthCitizen is saying is the view shared by most of the world. But this gov. and military are corporate muppets, the soldiers don't know what the big picture is.. they're just doing the job they're trained for. Basically, follow an order w/o question.
cervantessssssssssss 1 year ago
!EarthCitizen....I faught with this unit in iraq you say what you want that is your right but rember ! thing that is people like us that gave you that right. so if you cant stand behind us feel free to stand in front of us wolf36d
wolf38d 1 year ago
1EarthCitizen...... you are entitled to your opinion. But.......If soldiers don't stand at the front lines for our country then who will? Certainly not you. I understand frustration..."this isn't our war to fight" maybe you are right, BUT soldiers are the final defense. I can tell you I am enlisting myself regardless of where I will be sent regardless if i die and regardless if people like you disrespect our country. You wouldn't last one day in Iraq as a citizen. we are there to fix the broken.
Catfishoutlaw1x 1 year ago
@Catfishoutlaw1x: You're enlisting? You must be some low life redneck piece of trash that can't afford to go to college....and, you must be some sicko pervert that has a passion to kill people and rape.
1EarthCitizen 1 year ago
U.S. troops are child killers, criminals, low life trash, nazi's, thieves, uncultured idiots, brainwashed and misguided morons, ignorant high school drop-outs, scum, evil pigs, baby killers, sickos, perverts, sexual deviants, child molesters, sadistic rapist pigs, unprofessional morons, disgraceful idiots and DISHONORABLE PIGS!!! U.S. TROOPS ARE THE REAL TERRORISTS!!! U.S. TROOPS HAVE DISGRACED AMERICA!!! U.S. TROOPS ARE THE SCUM OF THE EARTH!! U.S. TROOPS ARE CHILD KILLERS AND RAPIST PIGS!
1EarthCitizen 1 year ago
KILL BABIES!!!! Oh, am I not helping?
Bigp426 1 year ago
ur just mad because the u.s troops ran a train on your mom LMFAO and sir your the disgrace for falsly accusing those troops who fight for the protection for our land they fight so your dumbass can be safe they see things your pussy ass wouldnt even bare to see so if your going to be calling them all those things you are telling them be sure you grow a pair of balls before you start talking shit
lilmzmonkey69 1 year ago
this ladies hair is pissing me the fuck off i wanna slap her
MegaPinkbits 2 years ago 3
These guys in the film are the biggest bunch of cocks ever!!! The only guy taling sense was that Lebanese guy.
Chrisno150 2 years ago
ive been over there and these soldiers in this film make it seem to dramatic..theres a little acting in there..
COD5LOVER 2 years ago
if you dont like the US then fucking leave... its that easy
nwheeler1101 2 years ago 2
that's like the redneck answer to everything, why do you even watch these videos if you don't understand debate and different opinions?
samaelmagnus 2 years ago
ummm maybe cause if people don't like the u.s. and talk shit even though they are lucky to be here.. then... leave.. its just that easy. My opinion is this, i support our troops im in the navy so of course i would. I love the front line dudes they have their jobs and they do it well. However I have no fucking idea why we are still there.. but as long as we have bro's out here then i support it and whatever they need to do.. i guess. :) have a good day {samae}
nwheeler1101 2 years ago
oh, i thought your first message was about the video not the comments, in that case yeah fuck 'em, a lot of 14 year old idiots talking shit about things they have no buisness talking about.....of course i have to call bullshit on myself as well because i'm not even american, anyway i hope those guys stay safe and sorry for the misunderstanding. P.S: i just went through some of the comments, holy crap there are a lot of idiots on the internet
samaelmagnus 2 years ago
My best friend was in this movie.
clap5 2 years ago
Fuck the troops. That guy killed a kid, and this stupid bitch is sympathizing WITH HIM?
How narcississtic has this country become.
We're like goddamn street performers. We go around the world creating drama and expect handouts after we're done.
FUCK the troops and this stupid bitch.
Arjuna1901 2 years ago
You're a fucking idiot, you don't shit, if someone is shooting at me, i dont care if hes 5 years old, im fucking killing him. You're an idiot you stupid fuck, fuck off, go kill your self. US is the greatest country in the World, everyone hates it because they are jealous, end of story. Better than europe, middle east, south central america, africa, etc etc, OWNED BITCH.
TheGhostfacekilla86 2 years ago
LOL, you're a douchebag! Read your own ridiculous comment a couple of times and let it sink in.
AMUHRICA's image is being RUINED by idiots like you. People hate the US because of our foreign policy.
THINK for a moment - those people in the countries we are supposedly, "liberating" are people just like us. If some foreign army came here and fucked with us we'd fight back - not out of jealousy, but out of personal pride/anger/etc.
"OWNED BITCH". You're fucking retarded.
Arjuna1901 2 years ago
Yeah America sucks so much that people around the world are dying to come here and live a normal life without bombs going off or people telling them what to do. If America sucked so much no one would want to come here. Like it or not, America is the most powerful country in the world right now, and gives better opportunities to everyone than any other country, hey faggot GG. Nice try. Go read up on history then talk shit.
TheGhostfacekilla86 2 years ago
I never said America sucked you stupid meathead douchebag.
I said people hate us because of what our government does to them.
That doesn't mean *everyone* hates us. And it doesn't mean that they truly hate our 'country' - they just hate our government.
I mean, judging by how fucking retarded you are, if someone hurt your family or god forbid, killed them, you'd somehow become even MORE retarded and hate the killers, their family, their country, their favorite brand of cereal, everything.
Arjuna1901 2 years ago
@TheGhostfacekilla86: Only people of color from poor, third world countries move to the USA now....that is why whites (Europeans) in the USA are becoming the minority. Most countries in the European Union (western Europe) have the highest standards of livings in the world and the highest per capita incomes in the world. Even Canadians live better than Americans. America only gets smelly Mexicans, Asians, Africans, Arabs, central Americans....no white Europeans anymore. USA is over rated!
1EarthCitizen 1 year ago
Ok why are you talking about living in a high standard when your probably a fucking redneck trailer trash bitch living off the welfare atleast the fucking immigrants in this country work fucking harder then any fucking euro white they become nothing but fake wannabe black gangsta bitches just watching jerry springer and waiting for their fucking foodstamps
lilmzmonkey69 1 year ago
Americans are fat, disgusting piece of inbred and mixed race shit! Americans are ignorant, insular, brainwashed and misguided morons....just like the U.S. troops....they are all misguided and brainwashed, but that is what the U.S. government and U.S. military can do to poor little redneck boys that have no future.
1EarthCitizen 1 year ago
@1EarthCitizen dude, don't try. if you try to argue with america your gonna lose. troops are heros, so stfu.
mrmidget94 1 year ago
@mrmidget94: America is bankrupt and trillions in debt. The U.S. is heading for economic collapse and the worthless U.S. dollar is going to collapse soon! America is an OVERRATED shit hole!!! U.S. troops ARE NOT heros, they are child killers, rapists, nazis, and dishonorable pigs. They come back to the U.S. with tons of mental problems....that is because they gang rape and kill young Iraqi girls (and boys) as young as age 8 and they murder innocent civilians! U.S. TROOPS ARE MENTAL CASES!
1EarthCitizen 1 year ago
@1EarthCitizen
Yeah I'm an Iraq Veteran and if you said that to my face I really wouldn't care because I know you don't know what you're talking about so by all means keep blaming everyone else for your shitty life.
TimmyHaag 1 year ago
@1EarthCitizen Wow , your hate is so deep, you generalize an entire country based on the decisions that our corrupt govt makes ? good job, asshole. You have deep mental issues.
12OunceProphet 1 year ago
do u think they wanted to kill him? stupid bitch ur fuckin talking and saying wats in ur fuckin mind because of them stupid fuck ass mutherfucker
760ArcAngel 2 years ago
hahaha "what the fuck do you know about the national gaurd" hm... you guys arent respected as much as the other branches
ryoxing3 2 years ago
its hard 4 most people in this century to comprehend war. putting on someone elses shoes is impossible in an era where everyone "KNOWS". calloused minds. so few are aware how young men and women like me and you come back from war scarred! lol i laugh in complete awe at the ignorance and plain stupidity. you people (U KNOW WHO U R) are the reason we are all doomed to repeat history. OPINIONS ARE DEBATABLE! 100% FACT IS NOT! PLZ WAKE UP WORLD!
DAMOCLIES 2 years ago
Can anyone tell me the length of basic training, time requirements for service and additional training for specific roles involved? I'm in Australian Army Reserves, just doing a comparison.
Riyun72 3 years ago
I know that in America Marine corps boot camp is 12 weeks long. idk if thats what you're asking though.
jinglemybells262 3 years ago
lenth of us army basic training is around 9 weeks, and it depends on what your job will be, so u can have three weeks extra, to a year of training,.
airforceone356 2 years ago
I am in the National Guard and can tell you that everyone goes through the same 9 weeks BCT (Basic Combat Training) but then after that , your second phase of training (Advanced Individual Training) varies in length depending on your MOS(job). For infantrymen, AIT is around 2 more months after basic.
aceatbass13 2 years ago 2
What a waste of time, didn't really learn anything new. I mean these stories are meaningful to the people involved but from a third person they are as boring as the next person's gossip. She didn't do anything new, she didn't examine this conflict in light of US foreign policy like 'we we fight', didn't examine the conflict from a cultural perspective like 'soundtrack to war', many more possibilities, but she didn't go anywhere.
superheronumber1 3 years ago
doc wasn't about her or any of those things you listed. duh. i appreciated hearing from troops w/out filter of pentagon/admin spokespersons or media imbeds.
tessler6868 2 years ago
Lets not forget that G.W. Bush lied about WMD's. Let's not forget that Haliburton, KBR, Blackwater and many other companies are profiting immensely from this war. These soldiers are patriots following orders from the higher ups who know better.
ResearchX 3 years ago
I wonder if the soldiers got royalties from the sales of this DVD film. Feelings aside, someone got paid
egoslap 3 years ago
Well, these films aren't free to produce. I'm sure there was a profit somewhere, but I doubt that that was the motivation for most of those who made it happen.
GeetarAdam 3 years ago
Whats the point of this talk exactly? Theres a war in Iraq? People are dying? Its not a nice place? I think we all knew that already.
Give a soldier a hug? Seriously? Come on.
I know several soldiers and none of them want a damn hug.
mccote 3 years ago
Underneith the facade we're all just overgrown children fumbling around in this damned crazy world and, yes, even big tough soldiers need hugs sometimes. Judging from your attitude, however, it's no surprise that nobody wants one from you.
GeetarAdam 3 years ago
People need to stop blaming this war on the troops. It's stupid and immature to think that any soldier WANTS war, nobody wants peace more than him.
SierraNichole 3 years ago 6
@SierraNichole very true. They will fight to protect their country.
This is the governments fault, not soldiers. They disbanded the iraqi army in 2003, not soldiers.
IamSixxx 1 year ago
@SierraNichole
amazing. thank you
cayterr 2 months ago
@SierraNichole really ? tell me, what does he say at 3:04 ?
soviet86 1 month ago
@soviet86 You are really that ignorant. Notice how that was not a question? Fucking idiot. To understand you would have to be there. But I guess for now, and the rest of your life you will never know. Go back to video games or mcdonalds or whereever it is you hang out.
Burnz2much 1 month ago
final considerations
if documentary maker want tell us the truth
your duty is to begin from the real reasons
why we kill and die in Iraq and don't be afraid to point the finger against those are responsible of this mess
Lindsey Williams rulez
Ron Paul accuracy truth
Jeremy Scahill and Blackwater Shadow Army
etc etc etc
DannyAz66 3 years ago
I witness with my own eyes what happen in NY
I smell death burn body for 3 weeks I remember the anger the wish to strike back
to kill those are responsible of this coward action and Bush give to us what we wish for
but this is just another USS Liberty
Today we learn we kill people they don't have nothing to do with 9/11 and you ask me if I support my troops? well I could lie to you by saying yes I do but I can't lie to myself..
DannyAz66 3 years ago
If US Soldiers they really care about America and American people they should stand up together and refuse to fight in Iraq
but that it would never happen because
nobody want be look like a traitor
I'm not support the war in Iraq but I support the troops?!
well maybe I support the troops in the beginning of this war when the Bush's lies
blind our eyes
but today is unacceptable our soldiers
they still fight this war so I guess my support is expired..
DannyAz66 3 years ago
this is just another simple of hypocrisy
well our soldiers they fight in Iraq because our government they tell them to do so
Iraq people they fight to have the right to live
I'm not a journalist or documentary maker
you don't need to be a rocker sciences
to know why we are in Iraq and why very soon
we going to bomb Iran..
if you can't understand why Iraq and then Iran maybe you should listen people like Lindsey Williams before complain the fact people are not connect to our soldiers.
DannyAz66 3 years ago
I have seen this documentary around on DVD shelves for about a month, and I've been hesitant to check it out since a lot of times people attempt to make a political point rather than just tell a personal story from the perspective of the soldiers on the ground. This is obviously not the case with this documentary. As a veteran myself, I applaud Miss Scranton for bringing up the disconnect between what reality we see on the ground and what is portrayed in the mass media.
ls1z28chris 4 years ago 4
its great
tbrais 4 years ago
it is a good documentary
jonxmartini 3 years ago
When they are killing each other they are the only ones that can be blamed for that, it is their choice.
cluster bombs are not illegal according to the Geneva conversion. They are illegal according to some peace watch groups.
read more carefully.
what the fuck is "20th century atlas"????? i cant even find it on google.
Crazylalalalala 4 years ago
according to Iraqi body count dot com it is between 76,000 and 84,000
anti war dot com has it at between 22,000 and 100,000
the Washington post has an estimate of 655,000 from which 601,000 is from Iraqis killing each other and most of the rest from disease.
the UN says about 34,000
It looks like you mixed up death toll and displaced people because the displaced people figure is about 2.2 mill not the death toll.
read more carefully next time.
Crazylalalalala 4 years ago
I actually find the Fox news channel really funny. They seem to always find the most retarded people to interview.
These nations contibuted troops (there are more)
US,UK,Poland, Austria, SK, Romania, El Salvador, Czech Republic, Azerbaijan, Georgia, Denmark, Mongolia, Albania, Armenia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Estonia, Macedonia, Kazakhstan, Moldova, Bulgaria, Latvia, Slovakia, Lithuania, Italy, Ukraine, Netherlands, Spain, Japan, Thailand......
Crazylalalalala 4 years ago
2.2 million? the figure is more like 655,000 In any case, how many where the results of coalition troop action? 0.1%, most of the death are do to sectarian violence not US action.
Second the Geneva convention does not outlaw the use of cluster bombs just google it. Also they were used against Iraqi troops during the war and most of the civ casualties are the result of unexploded munitions.
Crazylalalalala 4 years ago
I dont know about you but i was not fooled by the WMD argument. I know that it was for oil.
Crazylalalalala 4 years ago
1. The UK allowed the US to use its bases so no international law is against that.
2. Media outlets? show me
3/5 US as NEVER deliberately attacked civilians. A few incidences does not indicate intention.
4. The law also states that it is against the law to hide near civilian population. No munition can discriminate between civilian and combatant. The US used the best of available smart bombs. This war had almost no civilian casualties (during the opp. not the occupation).
Crazylalalalala 4 years ago
The UN is a joke though a noble idea. It is used as a platform for morons to give their two cents.
Correct me if i am wrong but the US was not the only nations that CONCLUDED that the war was necessary there where 40 nations that contributed troops which includes most if not all of Europe. So the fact that the Arab world disagreed to be invaded does not make the war illegal.
Crazylalalalala 4 years ago
You may not remember but I do. All those "other countries" decided that the war was necessary based on the word of our administration. Our president and his administration kept avoiding showing any real evidence all the while insisting that they had irrefutable proof. Remember, Powell, Cheney, Rice and the gang bombarding the media with the message that they had proof but couldn't show it because of security reasons.
mcdavis55 4 years ago
Only morons will make a decision to go to war just because of someones word. EVERYONE though that there were WMDs in Iraq and if the US didn't wait for months before invading after having decided to invade they might have found some. Besides, most of these nations still do contribute to the war which means that they still support it even though no WMD where found.
Crazylalalalala 4 years ago
Please show any evidence that what you're saying is true. Why exactly did "EVERYONE" think that there were WMD and why exactly don't you feel that it was the US who pushed that idea?
I think that when the President of the United States tells people that he has irrefutable evidence of something but that it can't be shared because of security reasons that he should be taken at his word.
mcdavis55 4 years ago
When the president of a nations speaks the people may believe him but heads of other nations have the brains to not exept everything that is said as true, especially sense they know the nature of politics.
You have to understand that the US is not the only nation with intelligences services.
Most nations believed that they had WMDs because it was reported that Iraq used such weapons against Iran and the Kurds.
Just google: iraq chemical attack
Crazylalalalala 4 years ago
Why do you feel that it was the US who pushed that idea?
The information was out years ago and was spread by Iran who was the victim of such attack and at war with Iraq at the time. Whether that information was credible or not we cannot know for sure.
It is also believed that the US supplied Iraq with chemical and biological weapons. Which is probably Terrorist or anti US propaganda but many people seem to buy it.
Crazylalalalala 4 years ago
I personally feel that nothing should be enforced on people. Iraq, like most middle eastern countries, are not ready nor interested in western political systems. THEY MUST DO IT ON THEIR OWN and we can only help if they ask for it.
Crazylalalalala 4 years ago
did i really say conservative? i cant find it. i probably meant something else i didn't know how to spell.
That is one of the biggest mistakes that nations/ people in power make. They assume that they can change peoples way of life. THey assume that they way is better and try to enforce it on others.
Crazylalalalala 4 years ago
war illegal? under what law?
It dont matter.
Crazylalalalala 4 years ago
yes he did by murdering his people! That no better. At least they chose to do this. Maybe they need this, most of the greatest nations in the world started by a civil war.
I am sure we will respond harshly but we will not start killing each other if will be killing anyone it would be the Gov't.
Crazylalalalala 4 years ago
im sure they had a plan it just wasn't very good. They made assumptions that where not true and under estimated the Sectarianism of the country.
Both gov`t are own by corporations(not sure about Britan but the US for sure) like the Military industries, Halliburton, and the likes. The war is for oil (Saddam stopped trading oil in USD just has the planing started) that both depend on and military contracts.
Crazylalalalala 4 years ago
Yes the US gave the weapons to him therefore they where there. If they hadn't waited three months (or so) to invade they might have found them too.
Invading Iran would be for the war on terror as Iran is the larger supplier and founder of terrorism.
I didn't say that the US had nothing to do with it, learn to read! The US put the Iraqis in a position where they can choose peace or war the Iraqis chose war.
Crazylalalalala 4 years ago
We both know that the war was initially and probably still is about oil and corporal profit like all of US wars (which is sick). But that does not change the FACT that removing Saddam was a good thing and that the Iraqis CHOSE to murder each other. If the Iraqis have chosen peace Iraq would have been a huge step forward in the region it could still be. Not to mentions strategic position against Iran and Syria which would probably be next.
Crazylalalalala 4 years ago
Dude i am not for the war. I think the US should not have invaded Iraq (if anyone should have been invaded it would be Iran or Saudi Arabia these would have at least made some sense) but living will not solve anything.
Crazylalalalala 4 years ago
"I don't hate anyone" - you are full of it!
We fight terrorist! The Iraqis are fighting each other for different reasons.
Crazylalalalala 4 years ago
Stop fooling yourself that fact that this administration are a bunch of assholes dont mean that you should look away from the facts.
You have enough things to hate them for you dont need to make up facts.
Crazylalalalala 4 years ago
Wake up?? why i turn the TV on and I see Iraqi (or some foreign crazy terrorist where ever they come from maybe Iran or something) suicide bomber killing dozens of people or Sunni and Shia Muslims killing each other over whose version of the quran is better. I don't see american bombs killing not intentionally any way and most defiantly not in comparable numbers!
Crazylalalalala 4 years ago
We are not killing them! They are killing themselves!
WAR IS HELL!!!!! I am not supporting the war just pointing out the facts.
Crazylalalalala 4 years ago
The strongest support for the troops is, if you speak out againt the war in public and do what ever you can do to end it. The only thing someone can win in a war is peace. All other objectives are drown in the bloodbath.
waken12 4 years ago
YES, i am sure that when the troops come home to hear EVERYBODY saying that the friends that they just lost died for nothing is a strong motivational support!
Crazylalalalala 4 years ago
Very moving.
hammy606 4 years ago
The documentary is on google video, search it for: war tapes, to find it.
theinquisitor 4 years ago
Wow, I have to see this film now. An eye opener for sure. If only people in power understood what they put soldiers through when they send them to war.
theillusivemind 4 years ago
They don't care what they put soldiers through. To the people in power the rest of us are cattle to be exploited.
bonoboboy41 4 years ago 2
it will be soon similar to
"The Animatrix - The Second Renaissance Part 2"
(03:17)
this is sad.
4mrpank4 4 years ago
thanks for the great post. my brother just returned from a second tour with the marines in iraq and most people underestimate the type of situation that he dealt with over there because they incorrectly categorize the type of horror that is witnessed there by the troops.
benjis007 4 years ago 5