Respectfully, I think Karen learned the techniques very quickly. She is very personable, and did a great job presenting this story, and raising awareness.
Jiu Jitsu can be USED for self defense, but it's not meant to be a 2 class session for women's self defense. It is a martial art that you have to train at for at least a year to be good enough to defend yourself in real application.
@Game your logic doesn't work.The fight they show is similar to what you assert. Royce is WORLD CLASS JJ-ist fighting someone who is basically a wrestler...bigger than him, like a typical man/woman matchup (size). As a WORLD CLASS JJ-ist, it took 16 minutes to do anything. Severn barely threw a punch. People don't understand the physicality involved....16 min. is FOREVER. Further, they are rolling around on a mat, not curbs/etc. A 1yr woman is NOT "world class". Bas Rutten shows reality.
@Game your logic doesn't work.The fight they show is similar to what you assert. Royce is WORLD CLASS JJ-ist fighting someone who is basically a wrestler...bigger than him, like a typical man/woman matchup (size). As a WORLD CLASS JJ-ist, it took 16 minutes to do anything. Severn barely threw a punch. People don't understand the physicality involved....16 min. is FOREVER. Further, they are rolling around on a mat, not curbs/etc. A 1yr woman is NOT "world class". Bas Rutten shows reality.
look the first rule of martial arts USE UR BRAIN. If there is an armed assailant or many people jiu jitsu may be rendered useless especially against many opponents. Use your brain if ONE guy is trying to hurt u go ahead use it, but if there are many guys and all they want is your money then just give it to them, If they want your life fight a couple them then RUN AWAY
@GoofyBoa ''So what are some other things that you can teach me, cuz we got from the back and from the front now'' ''Lay down please'' (she kneels) ''On my back?'' ''Yes'' (Jiu jitsu porn movie begins)
For ground fighting BJJ is the best. For standing Muay thai is the best. Take those two and devastate any one on the street. If you have the time you could also mix in Judo or TKD.
continuation form below..boxing and Muay Thai, or even judo, sambo, vale tudo, etc. Thus, in MMA it boils down to who is the better fighter, since they are all realtively veresed in the most popular and effective MMA styles aforementioned. BJJ is the single most effective MA styles. If a BJJ practioner faces any SINGLE MA style, once they are on the ground they will get tapped, because no other style emphasises the ground like BJJ; this is proven by countless BJJ VS vids on youtube.
BJJ will dominate all other MA's that was proven by the Gracies. The reson why is because boxers and Thai fighters and Wrestlers don't know how to finish a fight when it's on the ground. Taking down a boxer or Thai fighter is easy for an experienced BJJ practioner, once their on the ground all there weapons have been taken away. A wrestler can take BJJ practioner down, but cannot finish, because they have been taught how too. Today's MMA fighters train in several MA discplines BJJ and wrestling.
As far as self defence goes knowing any martial art is better that knowing nothing at all. Nothing can prepare you for getting jumped by multiple attackers or getting sucker punhed; however, one would have to agree that if you know BJJ or any MA for that matter you have a better chance in a street fight than knowing nothing at all.
that choke escape was a joke. people don't know it until they have actually tried it, but when you pull forward, the pull back, and it takes a lot of training if you want a back leg sweep or something like that. also it's wayyy more technical, you have to bend your knees and he has to be offbalance.
omg, this makes bjj look like it's the be all and end of styles. No. Royce has been practicing this stuff since he was a baby so he was practicing his style longer than his opponents had been practicing their styles. Also they didn't mention that Severn was a WRESTLER with no SUBMISSION or STRIKING experience which is why the match lasted so long and why he lost. If he'd had a year of muay thai or any striking art before his UFC 4 fight, he prob would have won.
Bignass, the point of the original UFC was to show the effectiveness of BJJ, which it did with Royce winning the event. Severn was a pure wrestler, yes, but he outweighed Royce by 50 pounds. You tell me of another art that can prepare a smaller fighter to defeat a larger fighter.
ANY style of martial arts. Any style prepares a smaller fighter to beat a larger fighter. The concept of compensating size, strength, and even speed with technique is not exclusive to BJJ. It's just that this style is high impact very quickly whereas stand up styles take a lot longer to get good at and weight is more of a deciding factor. Gracie was great against opponents who had no idea how to defeat his style but when they do, he can't match a well-rounded fighter (matt hughes)
Your statement that ANY style of martial arts prepares a smaller fighter to beat a larger fighter is untrue. TKD and Muay thai are a couple of examples that are contrary to your statement. Furthermore, Matt Hughes is a Blackbelt Level BJJ practioner; therefore, he was on an even keel with gracie, and was just a better fighter, and younger too. The fact remains that all fighters learn BJJ for ground fighting. You cannot compete competively in MMA with out it. Or if you know one name him/her!
Fedor trains in all facets of mma including BJJ. Sambo is the ma he orginally learned. Like Lidell and Kempo. Judo is an aspect of mma, but is worthless on the ground. Therefore, again you fail to demonstrate how bjj isn't incorporated into mma by fighters, so sit down and shut your mouth.
No, you are wrong. Fedor has stated that he only trains Sambo on the ground as it is comparable to Jits. Also Judo is not worthless on the ground, Newaza Judo is focused more so on grappling.
BTW your missing the obvious point. How are these arts comparable to jiu jitsu; because ground arts in one way shape or form incorporate some of the same similar moves. Therefore, he knows ground fighting how because he studies a style according to YOU that is similar to jits. BTW when he trains MMA he does cover aspects of wrestling and bjj, so you are wrong. Nice try though; but not good enough.
BTW what did he beat sylvia with; hooks in, modified rear naked choke (windpipe.) That was a bjj move, maybe sambo too but it makes no difference as they both coincide with my original point.
Dude I know that. But he also trains grappling in MMA, which is not strickly sambo or judo but a mixture of sub wrestling and bjj techniques. He does train MMA doesn't he dude? He trains with Johan Vos. So dude quit wasting my time when you don't even know for sure what your talking about ok dude.
Also I don't understand what you mean by. "it's just that this style is high impact very quickly." That makes no sense. From what I gather your trying to say that you can learn BJJ faster than stand up MA's. False again! Fact the majority of UFC fighters are below brown belt level in BJJ! GSP is an example. Average time to attain a BB in BJJ is 8-12 yrs or more! If it takes that long for someone to become proficient at Boxing, Muay Thai, or BJJ, they should find another hobby!
No YOU'RE wrong. I've done BJJ AND stand-up fighting and there are fewer variables in ground fighting than stand-up you don't need to develop good timing in a BJJ fight, you need good hips and decent strategy, in stand-up you need to train ur timing and to take strikes to the body. And you can train BJJ a lot more because you're not constantly experiencing minor blunt force trauma on a regular basis which is why boxers are worthless after age 35 but wrestlers like Couture are still decent at 45.
If you've trained in both aspects of fighting aforementioned and believe that ground fighting has fewer variables than stand up you are GRAVELY INCORRECT. Actually the only variable you've named for stand up is timing, yet you named hips and strategy for ground fighting that's two. It appears that your own comment condradicts itself. To help your argument both are very techinical however bjj is more technical& takes years to master because there is over 700 techniques unlike stand up, try again.
YIKES. Anyone with RWE knows NEVER get on ground against an attack. What are you going to do if partners/friends come over and stomp on your head whilst you wax eloquent with a very "cool move"? Uh....get your head stomped.
There is no advantage, in a real world assault by an unknown person, to getting on the ground. There is (as I factually stated) a clear danger. There is a HUGE difference between a fight between "friends" in the street or opponents in a match, and protecting yourself from being killed/maimed in the street. The dopes who negged my original comment are in for a rude life/death lesson, and live in a fairy tale land of "na-ah" and "well technically...".
as we both said it's not ideal... having a ground game is useful, so you can get up and out and reduce their chance of doing so, pretty much my point... it's not the end of it all... I do agree with your point about the 'but say this happens...' brigade... I fully understand about the vast difference between theory and practice.
On 'teh st£3tz' ground game is another wrench in the tool box and like any tool - misuse it and it makes more problems than it solves, but well used it can help a lot
your responses are ignoring fact: the video is showing someone "instructing" others to PURPOSEFULLY take an attacker to the ground. This is clearly not the same as saying "if the fight ends up on the ground". IRL, going to the ground will get you hurt/killed. Bas Rutten agrees.
please watch video again... 4:22 'this is what you never want to get down to the ground" Royce: "yes" .... that whole method there is all about getting yourself up and away from a ground and pound situation... not get yourself in that situation... which to me makes sense.
And in this video - the two techniques prior to that where non-sacrificial standing throws...
leaving you on your feet and the would be attacker breaking kissing concrete
@kenfo0 at what point in the video did she take him to the ground and then go down after him? she stayed standing the whole time except for the hypothetical mounted situation which unless you seriously fuck up will never be the result of you taking someone down
@manzuri self defense for the avg person needs to focus on NOT allowing someone to grab you.A small woman being grabbed by a big man is in big trouble.When she flips him in the vid, he doesn't pull her down, as any relatively big person would do. I have never seen someone getting thrown who lets go...it is human nature to hold on, and if you are bigger, you are going to drag the smaller person down. HG is a very tough, strong, wildly experienced man...he can get away w/it, but that woman won't.
@kenfo0 She learned those techniques in a matter of 30 minutes. That isn't enough time to become proficient in jiu jitsu. Gracie jiu jitsu takes all of these things that you are saying into account... but you aren't going to learn all of the techniques for different scenarios in 30 minutes for a 5 minute news segment.
What they showed are the most basic of the basics.
@Gamezero05 two pts. one, read all my comments. I am 100% correct. We are NOT talking about Royce getting attacked. He is (was) top of the food chain. We are talking about the avg person, especially women, like in the vid. The kind of training an avg person of avg capabilities gets is not going to be enough to deal with a person who assaults others for a living, let alone the danger of his buddy simply stepping on your neck when you go to the ground. (cont)
@kenfo0 Blue belts in Jiu Jitsu know enough grappling to be able to survive if attacked. A couple of women's self defenses classes won't protect you, but a year of jiu jitsu would. I completely agree about people thinking they are tougher than they are after martial arts training... but Gracie Jiu Jitsu always stresses the importance of avoiding danger at all costs.
If she trained for 1 hour, 2 days a week for a year, she would have a good chance of defending herself.
@Gamezero05 I agree that if PROPERLY trained AGGRESSIVELY in a REALISTIC ENVIRONMENT, people who are trained stand a better chance of getting away relatively unscathed. My comments are 100% true. Most people DO NOT get proper, aggressive training in realistic environments. Like college today, most people are trained in a weak, unrealistic environment NOT preparing them for the real world. The best way to avoid street violence, is prevention via awareness and planning. Best wishes.
@kenfo0 I don't disagree that avoiding violence and awareness is the best. Who would deny that? But sometimes, people don't have a choice and they are overpowered to the ground. Then what? It's either lie there with somebody on you not being able to get them off, or know the proper techniques to give yourself the best chance to escape.
@kenfo0 Sorry.. I didn't mean to respond to manzuri. Anyway, if you are a 200 pound man, and you tried to attack some of the girls I know at our gym, you would be going to the hospital with a broken arm if you didn't know any jiu jitsu.
@Gamezero05 First, i know more than a little about combatives, and unless I were already severely incapacitated, your delusion would not hold true. Martial artists are sometimes the best people I've met, and others are morons who assert nonsense as fact. You assume attackers don't know how to fight. Sadly, they are often vicious and practiced. Fortunately, I am a moral person who doesn't go around attacking anyone, let alone women. Your magic ninja girls wouldn't stand a chance.
@kenfo0 Most people who "know how to fight" don't know how to grapple. And I can guarantee you that 99% of attackers are not trained in anything. They generally will try to use their size to overpower a woman. You know how I know that jiu jitsu works? I am friends with people at my gym, girls included. We have told some of our other friends who don't train to "wrestle" with the girls and don't take it easy. The girls submitted them like crazy.
@Gam Sorry, but a wrestling match in a gym/dojo is NOT the same as an attack, for a few important reasons. 1. Panic. There won't be panic in the gym...it is safe. 2.No one is punching the woman in the face at the gym or trying to break her arm, etc. 3. Surprise. there is none in the typical gym. "it is get ready, timmy is going to grab your wrist or roll with you.". BIG differences. OF COURSE I am not advocated attempting to knock women out in the gym, but you fight how you practice.
@Gamezero05 I hope you take these comments as intended...just a back and forth. I am not disparaging JJ. I simply know the reality of "book learnin", if you will, vs reality. If people don't get some bruises and bloody noses once in a while in training, they will collapse IRL. Fighting is nasty. Winning is the ONLY thing. There are NO RULES in the street, other than "kenfo0's going home with as little harm to him as possible.". Whatever happens to the other person is called "a life lesson".
@Gamezero05 LOL. 05, practically NO ONE taking M.A. instruction gets bruises or bloody noses. There is nearly no contact in most dojos/self-defense courses. They pay money, they are taught nonsense, there is minor PT and no discipline. In return, they get a colored belt and are told they're deadly ninjas. On that note, this conversation reminded me of a comedy. Did you see "the foot-fist way"? the scene i thought of is at 1:00
watch?v=2Vv4pYda_Z0&feature=fvst I had a good laugh at that!
@kenfo0 What are you talking about? This isn't about some karate McDojo. Most jiu jitsu schools or "MMA" schools where they teach boxing, muay thai, wrestling, jiu jitsu, etc.. you will get banged up.
This isn't a womens self defense class... the story is about a legit jiu jitsu school.
You get bruises, scrapes, mat burns, cuts, bloody noses, cauliflower ear, etc. Things happen when you are training hard.
Once again, this news story is about jiu jitsu, not a women's self defense class.
@Gamezero05 Two, exhibitions like this and most "training" today will get someone hurt, thinking they are better/tougher than they are. People tend to learn a few "moves" and are not as careful in their interactions. This is a common phenomenon. For example, a woman takes a few "women's self defense courses" now walks alone at night when she previously wouldn't. The best "self defense" training starts with teaching street smarts...where not to go or who to be near and how to get out.
@kenfo0 And I see one of your previous comments saying "When she flips him in the vid, he doesn't pull her down. It is human nature to hold on and if you are bigger you are going to drage the smaller person down."
That isn't true most of the time. Human nature tells us to catch ourself and break our fall. A natural reaction is to put your arms back to catch yourself. Of course there is the possibility of somebody grabbing you, but this usually isn't the case.
@manzuri Jiu Jitsu won't always save you... but it gives you the best chance. If a man takes you down and tries to overpower you, jiu jitsu gives you your best chance for survival. It's as simple as that. Once your on the ground against a larger man, you're done.... unless you know jiu jitsu. Jiu jitsu gives you the ability to best protect yourself in a scenario where you would have NO chance if you didn't know the techniques.
@Gamez The best short-term training is viciousness, not "moves". Getting and being WILLING to use a weapon GREATLY increases chances for survival. Attacking the face with something sharp, raking the face/eyes, punching (or using a weapon) to the throat, etc....very quick, giving just enough time to run. People have been THOROUGHLY COWED. Few people fight back in any way, to any kind of attack, being falsely taught it's best to hope an immoral person won't hurt you too badly. pffffft.
@Gamezero05 I am in no way disparaging JJ. I advocate tough martial arts training for kids. Teach skills, exercise, and reinforce morality that one should never attack over insults and the like. This REDUCES, not increases violence. I watch a lot of mma and am really only interested in seeing creative, skilled grappling. It sickens me to hear the punks and cowards who like to see OTHERS get hurt and bleed. Hopefully no one gets hurt, we are entertained, they get paid....sweet deal!
Like everyone else, BJJ is a very effective martial art but it is not the do all end all of arts. Being well rounded with strikes and speed and groundfighting would be amazing. not just a boxer alone. or a wrestler alone. Maybe if you could create Bruce Lee and Royce Gracie into one person. then you would have a person who wouldn't be messed with.
Hmm. Let's teach a woman to do a hip throw on a bigger guy. Smart move. He'd just wrap his arms around her neck, chest or waist and drag her to the ground. My advice: strike and run.
How dare you call BJJ self defense? It is misleading the public. Anybody who thinks that BJJ will save your life in a life or death street encounter is going to die! Imagine trying to grapple someone who unleashes a knife which he was hiding under his sleeve. And as for a gang of attackers? Do the maths.
Care to name a style that does handle knives and multiple attackers (and has DEMONSTRATED that ability at some point?)
It's true that modern BJJ is usually taught as sport rather than self-defense, but if you think it will not make a huge difference toward surviving and controlling an opponent, you need a little more experience with BJJ.
Your outraged tone is a bit telling - do you have a grudge against BJJ or something?
Care to name a style that does handle knives and multiple attackers (and has DEMONSTRATED that ability at some point?)
It's true that modern BJJ is usually taught as sport rather than self-defense, but if you think it will not make a huge difference toward surviving and controlling an opponent, you need a little more experience with BJJ.
Your outraged tone is a bit telling - do you have a grudge against BJJ or something?
"Care to name a style that does handle knives and multiple attackers (and has DEMONSTRATED that ability at some point?)" You really need to study martial arts history. Japanese jujutsu was designed for battlefield use by the samurai. It's effectiveness was demonstrated in many battles over hundreds of years. "Effective martial arts" doesn't begin or end with BJJ.
What makes a samurai and samurai? Their sword. So you think those guys fended off samurai, unarmed while they swung swords at them? They obviously used weapons in combination with jujutsu. Anyone who tries to fend off a samurai without a weapon is fucked no matter what kind or how much training they've had.
that's a good point but really no martial arts are sufficient in those situations for an average person. imagine bruce lee in a street fight with someone who unleashes a gun which was hiding under his sleeve. bjj is a great system for women because it's very likely that a women will end up on the ground at some point if she is attacked by a man. is it fool proof? no but it's not realistic to walk through life with a bazooka strapped to your back.
Best strategy for self-defence: train to stay off the ground. Ground skills are helpful if you get taken to the ground but your objective shouldn't be to go the ground. BJJ was developed for one-on-one fights in controlled environments. No matter what the BJJ guys say, the ability to stay on your feet is more useful in real life.
The ability to stay on your feet is best developed through wrestling, BJJ, Judo, and so forth. And good luck getting out from under a large or trained opponent without good grappling skill.
You serious? Who do you think is going to be suffering more from all that magical glass and whatnot, the guy who is an expert at BJJ, or the guy who has the BJJ expert on his back, grinding his face into the ground?
You seem more interested in proving that BJJ is the most superior art than understanding another person's view so repeating myself is probably pointless, but I'll try again: ground skills are useful but a fighting strategy based on taking someone to the ground ignores the possibility of concealed weapons and / or multiple attackers. On the street, you want to be able to evade and move freely.
I just started bjj 2.5 months ago and have a challenge against my dad after 6 months of bjj I said ill make him tap. FYI im 6'6" 185lbs and my dad is 6'3" 285lbs and is litteraly over twice as strong so is this good enough? oh ya for you ill do the fight on pavement and win. so stay tuned.
You may say whatever you want ... if BJJ is not demonstrated on the street pavement exactly as demonstrated on this nice blue mat .. then that will mean it doesnt work outdoors...
Not true. The mat is merely for saftey. That judo throw he/she demonstrated , if done at full speed on the pavement, would knock the wind out of, break bones and/or cause internal bleeding.....so it does work.
And where do you think this martial art is practiced, on the pavement, where ppl who haven't mastered the technique can get themselves seriously fuck up?
Or on a nice soft mat, where you can perfect your techniques safely...?
Please, shut up. A demonstration IS NOT real. Ive used BJJ is self defense in parking lots and sidewalks before. Normally it happens so fast that the fight doesnt go to the ground. You should find a BJJ gym near you and ask for a first hand demonstration. IF you have ANY other questions just message me. I LOVE, BREATH, DREAM, EAT MMA.
Are you serious? There are lots on instances of BJJ working just fine on pavement. And just so you know, the mat is to protect the guy who is WORSE at grappling, not better. Throws, takedowns, and submissions are many times more damaging on a hard surface.
i hate what the brazilians did with ju jitsu they comercialized it with these daft compertitions, ju jitsu should be about teaching the weak how to fight and defend against the stong, now every hard knock scally knows about it
One thing about competition is that it keeps instructors and students honest and in top form. If someone decides to make a quick buck and teach halfassed, their terrible competitiion record will give them away (or their decision to abstain from competing)
i'll bet some bjj guy will react to this post and say they dont automatically go to the ground in a real fight. but then i guess they have yet to finish a fight standing up. and standing up while choking is useless , i think, if you have at least 2 opponents.
Its funny how Royce didn't mention his lost to Sakuraba. And that he went downhill from that point on. BJJ is better than nothing, but its different using it on a mat than on the streets where there's glass, rocks and other surprises.
Ah, once again..spoken by a true ignorant individual. The only thing you forgot to mention on the streets is nails, open spike pits, used condoms and lava pits. lol. If you actually trained in BJJ and knew what you were talking about, you'd realize it's not just about rolling around on the ground. It's about gaining a dominant position during a fight. Is that relevant on the street?
Laying down on your back on concrete cement puts a lot of strain on you. Not saying I'm good or anything, but i've been in a street fights before. Have you?
you realize that a BJJ player is going to be trying their damndest to get mount or side-control,get up and get away ,etc. right? the guard is not the end all and be all of the system, its just a good way to defend yourself if your stuck on your back.
U obviously fought scrubs...if u are training in BJJ u want to get the TOP POSITION so u can pound the shit out of the opponent...but the BOTTOM POSITION is necessary to learn because if u go against sum1 bigger/stronger/or u are drunk u better be able to REVERSE the position. LOL if u think BJJ starts off with them spreading their legs out for u to hump them.
In any fight you want to get on the top position so you can pound the shit out of the opponent. My point is most of the bjj you see on UFC, Pride, etc, you cannot do some of those moves on the street(concrete floor) or else you end up hurting yourself.
Basic BJJ 101...double leg takedown or headlock takedown...get side position...get mount position...PUNCH PUNCH PUNCH PUNCH PUNCH. If u get taken to the ground...go guard...REVERSE or BRIDGE...get mount position...PUNCH PUNCH PUNCH PUNCH. Add in some eye gouging and biting...u'll be straight.
What are you talking about? Do u think that getting scratched is gonna stop me from pounding u out? And If u mean takedowns thats just stupid because Its going to to hurt u when u hit the ground not me. BTW we dont pull gaurd in street fights thats just stupid. Please explain why u made that comment
1st of all, it's a street fight...u expect to be comfortable? :o lol...do ur homework b4 u talk shit kid, jiu jitsu is the most complete MA out there...i dont get u tho, did u expect Royce to tell her in details everybody he lost to? u obviously dont know wtf ur talking about so stfu dummy
btw..."Traditional Gracie Jiu-Jitsu is recognized as the most complete and practical real world self-defense system." quote from MMA website..U FAIL, GO DIE!
I was studying Japanese jujutsu in the mid-1990s before Gracie Jiu-jitsu was known worldwide. I can state that the "guard / mount " were not in use Japan at that time. The "guard / mount" do seem to be an invention of Gracie Jiu-jitsu. This cannot be said for the other techniques it uses, which all exist in Jujutsu or Judo.
Respectfully, I think Karen learned the techniques very quickly. She is very personable, and did a great job presenting this story, and raising awareness.
dejadeadlea 1 month ago
Did they just do it on tv??
143grapeape 6 months ago
I SO WANNA MEET LEGEND ROYCE GRACIE !!!!! DAMN SHE'S LUCKY !
Dolceb7 6 months ago
"like you got me from behind..." hmmmmmmm :D
puercos911 7 months ago
Jiu Jitsu can be USED for self defense, but it's not meant to be a 2 class session for women's self defense. It is a martial art that you have to train at for at least a year to be good enough to defend yourself in real application.
Gamezero05 1 year ago
@Game your logic doesn't work.The fight they show is similar to what you assert. Royce is WORLD CLASS JJ-ist fighting someone who is basically a wrestler...bigger than him, like a typical man/woman matchup (size). As a WORLD CLASS JJ-ist, it took 16 minutes to do anything. Severn barely threw a punch. People don't understand the physicality involved....16 min. is FOREVER. Further, they are rolling around on a mat, not curbs/etc. A 1yr woman is NOT "world class". Bas Rutten shows reality.
kenfo0 1 year ago
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@Game your logic doesn't work.The fight they show is similar to what you assert. Royce is WORLD CLASS JJ-ist fighting someone who is basically a wrestler...bigger than him, like a typical man/woman matchup (size). As a WORLD CLASS JJ-ist, it took 16 minutes to do anything. Severn barely threw a punch. People don't understand the physicality involved....16 min. is FOREVER. Further, they are rolling around on a mat, not curbs/etc. A 1yr woman is NOT "world class". Bas Rutten shows reality.
kenfo0 1 year ago
bjj is good but like its not that bad, nd like royce isnt the best cause like i think for the sakuraba fight he used steroids.
zerofox94 1 year ago
@zerofox94 that doesnt make any sence because the gracies beleved in leverage instead of power
clokedbigman 1 year ago
You can tell she's flirting!
METEK101 1 year ago
Except the fact that Bjj is awesome...U can develope some nice relationships with your female training partners Ooo!!!! :)
I never saw royce so relaxed and calm awesome guy!!!
GeorgeAnt1987 1 year ago
one more time please
royce is the man haha, such a nice guy
ColdHearted 1 year ago
''one more time pleezze'' LOL
carlos0259774 2 years ago
early ufc didnt have time limit
To0t 2 years ago
What UFC fights only 3- 5 minutes and his lasting 16??????? A full UFC fight is 15 minutes unless it's a title fight then it's 25 minutes.
xmanhockey7 2 years ago 2
@xmanhockey7
As To0t said, early UFC didn't have a time limit, nor did they wear gloves. There were little to no rules.
4c00h 2 years ago
he means the rounds
kevsenior 1 year ago
look the first rule of martial arts USE UR BRAIN. If there is an armed assailant or many people jiu jitsu may be rendered useless especially against many opponents. Use your brain if ONE guy is trying to hurt u go ahead use it, but if there are many guys and all they want is your money then just give it to them, If they want your life fight a couple them then RUN AWAY
535manbearpig 2 years ago
@535manbearpig yes absolutly!
but if their intent is to hurt you then the best thing to do if there are multiple opponents is to make a run for it and call for help
one opponent bjj will absolutly destroy them
clokedbigman 1 year ago
That reporter woman is so cute !!! She's lovely .
carlos0259774 2 years ago
Yeah, i gree -- she's a honie.
She's gonna be more difficult to cuddle though... I'd start calling her Porcupine.
DancingSpiderman 2 years ago
i love martial arts but when it comes down to it my favorite are is klik clak pow R.I.P. Helio Gracie
phamax111 2 years ago
the best way to defend yourself is to learn how to run really fast. jiujitsu is good to
spenndoggy 3 years ago 23
i never saw this before that was awesome
k4n3 3 years ago
AaaH YEEaH! ''I DID IT''
She is sooooOoO horny!
GoofyBoa 3 years ago 7
@GoofyBoa ''So what are some other things that you can teach me, cuz we got from the back and from the front now'' ''Lay down please'' (she kneels) ''On my back?'' ''Yes'' (Jiu jitsu porn movie begins)
tphalex3 2 months ago
For ground fighting BJJ is the best. For standing Muay thai is the best. Take those two and devastate any one on the street. If you have the time you could also mix in Judo or TKD.
dhfdfhdfh 3 years ago 2
agreed
6XstringXsamurai 3 years ago
i bet she enjoyd royce on top
leshark 3 years ago 5
royce is gay
bjjcrap 3 years ago
Gay? as in literally or you just dislike him?
dhfdfhdfh 3 years ago
literally?well i'm not really sure but i hate him and his family. they sure punch like gay guys though
bjjcrap 3 years ago
The jiu-jitsu brazilian is the best fron world!
kcksilva 3 years ago
continuation form below..boxing and Muay Thai, or even judo, sambo, vale tudo, etc. Thus, in MMA it boils down to who is the better fighter, since they are all realtively veresed in the most popular and effective MMA styles aforementioned. BJJ is the single most effective MA styles. If a BJJ practioner faces any SINGLE MA style, once they are on the ground they will get tapped, because no other style emphasises the ground like BJJ; this is proven by countless BJJ VS vids on youtube.
cterrazas1 3 years ago
BJJ will dominate all other MA's that was proven by the Gracies. The reson why is because boxers and Thai fighters and Wrestlers don't know how to finish a fight when it's on the ground. Taking down a boxer or Thai fighter is easy for an experienced BJJ practioner, once their on the ground all there weapons have been taken away. A wrestler can take BJJ practioner down, but cannot finish, because they have been taught how too. Today's MMA fighters train in several MA discplines BJJ and wrestling.
cterrazas1 3 years ago
As far as self defence goes knowing any martial art is better that knowing nothing at all. Nothing can prepare you for getting jumped by multiple attackers or getting sucker punhed; however, one would have to agree that if you know BJJ or any MA for that matter you have a better chance in a street fight than knowing nothing at all.
cterrazas1 3 years ago
that choke escape was a joke. people don't know it until they have actually tried it, but when you pull forward, the pull back, and it takes a lot of training if you want a back leg sweep or something like that. also it's wayyy more technical, you have to bend your knees and he has to be offbalance.
i find elbow to the ribs useful
ArcticSheep 3 years ago
omg, this makes bjj look like it's the be all and end of styles. No. Royce has been practicing this stuff since he was a baby so he was practicing his style longer than his opponents had been practicing their styles. Also they didn't mention that Severn was a WRESTLER with no SUBMISSION or STRIKING experience which is why the match lasted so long and why he lost. If he'd had a year of muay thai or any striking art before his UFC 4 fight, he prob would have won.
bignass04 3 years ago
Bignass, the point of the original UFC was to show the effectiveness of BJJ, which it did with Royce winning the event. Severn was a pure wrestler, yes, but he outweighed Royce by 50 pounds. You tell me of another art that can prepare a smaller fighter to defeat a larger fighter.
cterrazas1 3 years ago 2
ANY style of martial arts. Any style prepares a smaller fighter to beat a larger fighter. The concept of compensating size, strength, and even speed with technique is not exclusive to BJJ. It's just that this style is high impact very quickly whereas stand up styles take a lot longer to get good at and weight is more of a deciding factor. Gracie was great against opponents who had no idea how to defeat his style but when they do, he can't match a well-rounded fighter (matt hughes)
bignass04 3 years ago
Your statement that ANY style of martial arts prepares a smaller fighter to beat a larger fighter is untrue. TKD and Muay thai are a couple of examples that are contrary to your statement. Furthermore, Matt Hughes is a Blackbelt Level BJJ practioner; therefore, he was on an even keel with gracie, and was just a better fighter, and younger too. The fact remains that all fighters learn BJJ for ground fighting. You cannot compete competively in MMA with out it. Or if you know one name him/her!
cterrazas1 3 years ago
Rofl... How About Fedor Emelianenko... Sambo.. And many of the Newaza judo guys.
Carn55 3 years ago
Fedor trains in all facets of mma including BJJ. Sambo is the ma he orginally learned. Like Lidell and Kempo. Judo is an aspect of mma, but is worthless on the ground. Therefore, again you fail to demonstrate how bjj isn't incorporated into mma by fighters, so sit down and shut your mouth.
cterrazas1 3 years ago
No, you are wrong. Fedor has stated that he only trains Sambo on the ground as it is comparable to Jits. Also Judo is not worthless on the ground, Newaza Judo is focused more so on grappling.
Carn55 3 years ago
BTW your missing the obvious point. How are these arts comparable to jiu jitsu; because ground arts in one way shape or form incorporate some of the same similar moves. Therefore, he knows ground fighting how because he studies a style according to YOU that is similar to jits. BTW when he trains MMA he does cover aspects of wrestling and bjj, so you are wrong. Nice try though; but not good enough.
cterrazas1 3 years ago
BTW what did he beat sylvia with; hooks in, modified rear naked choke (windpipe.) That was a bjj move, maybe sambo too but it makes no difference as they both coincide with my original point.
cterrazas1 3 years ago
Dude, he trains Judo and Sambo. Not BJJ.
Carn55 3 years ago
Dude I know that. But he also trains grappling in MMA, which is not strickly sambo or judo but a mixture of sub wrestling and bjj techniques. He does train MMA doesn't he dude? He trains with Johan Vos. So dude quit wasting my time when you don't even know for sure what your talking about ok dude.
cterrazas1 3 years ago
Also I don't understand what you mean by. "it's just that this style is high impact very quickly." That makes no sense. From what I gather your trying to say that you can learn BJJ faster than stand up MA's. False again! Fact the majority of UFC fighters are below brown belt level in BJJ! GSP is an example. Average time to attain a BB in BJJ is 8-12 yrs or more! If it takes that long for someone to become proficient at Boxing, Muay Thai, or BJJ, they should find another hobby!
cterrazas1 3 years ago
No YOU'RE wrong. I've done BJJ AND stand-up fighting and there are fewer variables in ground fighting than stand-up you don't need to develop good timing in a BJJ fight, you need good hips and decent strategy, in stand-up you need to train ur timing and to take strikes to the body. And you can train BJJ a lot more because you're not constantly experiencing minor blunt force trauma on a regular basis which is why boxers are worthless after age 35 but wrestlers like Couture are still decent at 45.
bignass04 3 years ago
If you've trained in both aspects of fighting aforementioned and believe that ground fighting has fewer variables than stand up you are GRAVELY INCORRECT. Actually the only variable you've named for stand up is timing, yet you named hips and strategy for ground fighting that's two. It appears that your own comment condradicts itself. To help your argument both are very techinical however bjj is more technical& takes years to master because there is over 700 techniques unlike stand up, try again.
cterrazas1 3 years ago 3
YIKES. Anyone with RWE knows NEVER get on ground against an attack. What are you going to do if partners/friends come over and stomp on your head whilst you wax eloquent with a very "cool move"? Uh....get your head stomped.
kenfo0 2 years ago
a few points about being on the ground...
it's not all good as you say, but there are some advantages
1) you have no danger of falling or a hard take down.
2) any height advantage they have is rendered pointless
3)it's not hard to take someone down to the same level, you don't even have to keep them there...
4)you can still strike VERY effectively when you're on the ground (just look at some forms of traditional Jujitsu)
the point is, it's not ideal... but it isn't 'teh D34DL3y' either
scopeophile 2 years ago
There is no advantage, in a real world assault by an unknown person, to getting on the ground. There is (as I factually stated) a clear danger. There is a HUGE difference between a fight between "friends" in the street or opponents in a match, and protecting yourself from being killed/maimed in the street. The dopes who negged my original comment are in for a rude life/death lesson, and live in a fairy tale land of "na-ah" and "well technically...".
kenfo0 2 years ago
as we both said it's not ideal... having a ground game is useful, so you can get up and out and reduce their chance of doing so, pretty much my point... it's not the end of it all... I do agree with your point about the 'but say this happens...' brigade... I fully understand about the vast difference between theory and practice.
On 'teh st£3tz' ground game is another wrench in the tool box and like any tool - misuse it and it makes more problems than it solves, but well used it can help a lot
scopeophile 2 years ago
your responses are ignoring fact: the video is showing someone "instructing" others to PURPOSEFULLY take an attacker to the ground. This is clearly not the same as saying "if the fight ends up on the ground". IRL, going to the ground will get you hurt/killed. Bas Rutten agrees.
kenfo0 2 years ago
please watch video again... 4:22 'this is what you never want to get down to the ground" Royce: "yes" .... that whole method there is all about getting yourself up and away from a ground and pound situation... not get yourself in that situation... which to me makes sense.
And in this video - the two techniques prior to that where non-sacrificial standing throws...
leaving you on your feet and the would be attacker breaking kissing concrete
or did I miss something?
scopeophile 2 years ago
@kenfo0 at what point in the video did she take him to the ground and then go down after him? she stayed standing the whole time except for the hypothetical mounted situation which unless you seriously fuck up will never be the result of you taking someone down
manzuri 1 year ago
@manzuri self defense for the avg person needs to focus on NOT allowing someone to grab you.A small woman being grabbed by a big man is in big trouble.When she flips him in the vid, he doesn't pull her down, as any relatively big person would do. I have never seen someone getting thrown who lets go...it is human nature to hold on, and if you are bigger, you are going to drag the smaller person down. HG is a very tough, strong, wildly experienced man...he can get away w/it, but that woman won't.
kenfo0 1 year ago
@kenfo0 She learned those techniques in a matter of 30 minutes. That isn't enough time to become proficient in jiu jitsu. Gracie jiu jitsu takes all of these things that you are saying into account... but you aren't going to learn all of the techniques for different scenarios in 30 minutes for a 5 minute news segment.
What they showed are the most basic of the basics.
Gamezero05 1 year ago
@Gamezero05 two pts. one, read all my comments. I am 100% correct. We are NOT talking about Royce getting attacked. He is (was) top of the food chain. We are talking about the avg person, especially women, like in the vid. The kind of training an avg person of avg capabilities gets is not going to be enough to deal with a person who assaults others for a living, let alone the danger of his buddy simply stepping on your neck when you go to the ground. (cont)
kenfo0 1 year ago
@kenfo0 Blue belts in Jiu Jitsu know enough grappling to be able to survive if attacked. A couple of women's self defenses classes won't protect you, but a year of jiu jitsu would. I completely agree about people thinking they are tougher than they are after martial arts training... but Gracie Jiu Jitsu always stresses the importance of avoiding danger at all costs.
If she trained for 1 hour, 2 days a week for a year, she would have a good chance of defending herself.
Gamezero05 1 year ago
@Gamezero05 I agree that if PROPERLY trained AGGRESSIVELY in a REALISTIC ENVIRONMENT, people who are trained stand a better chance of getting away relatively unscathed. My comments are 100% true. Most people DO NOT get proper, aggressive training in realistic environments. Like college today, most people are trained in a weak, unrealistic environment NOT preparing them for the real world. The best way to avoid street violence, is prevention via awareness and planning. Best wishes.
kenfo0 1 year ago
@kenfo0 I don't disagree that avoiding violence and awareness is the best. Who would deny that? But sometimes, people don't have a choice and they are overpowered to the ground. Then what? It's either lie there with somebody on you not being able to get them off, or know the proper techniques to give yourself the best chance to escape.
Gamezero05 1 year ago
@kenfo0 Sorry.. I didn't mean to respond to manzuri. Anyway, if you are a 200 pound man, and you tried to attack some of the girls I know at our gym, you would be going to the hospital with a broken arm if you didn't know any jiu jitsu.
Gamezero05 1 year ago
@Gamezero05 First, i know more than a little about combatives, and unless I were already severely incapacitated, your delusion would not hold true. Martial artists are sometimes the best people I've met, and others are morons who assert nonsense as fact. You assume attackers don't know how to fight. Sadly, they are often vicious and practiced. Fortunately, I am a moral person who doesn't go around attacking anyone, let alone women. Your magic ninja girls wouldn't stand a chance.
kenfo0 1 year ago
@kenfo0 Most people who "know how to fight" don't know how to grapple. And I can guarantee you that 99% of attackers are not trained in anything. They generally will try to use their size to overpower a woman. You know how I know that jiu jitsu works? I am friends with people at my gym, girls included. We have told some of our other friends who don't train to "wrestle" with the girls and don't take it easy. The girls submitted them like crazy.
Gamezero05 1 year ago
@Gam Sorry, but a wrestling match in a gym/dojo is NOT the same as an attack, for a few important reasons. 1. Panic. There won't be panic in the gym...it is safe. 2.No one is punching the woman in the face at the gym or trying to break her arm, etc. 3. Surprise. there is none in the typical gym. "it is get ready, timmy is going to grab your wrist or roll with you.". BIG differences. OF COURSE I am not advocated attempting to knock women out in the gym, but you fight how you practice.
kenfo0 1 year ago
@Gamezero05 I hope you take these comments as intended...just a back and forth. I am not disparaging JJ. I simply know the reality of "book learnin", if you will, vs reality. If people don't get some bruises and bloody noses once in a while in training, they will collapse IRL. Fighting is nasty. Winning is the ONLY thing. There are NO RULES in the street, other than "kenfo0's going home with as little harm to him as possible.". Whatever happens to the other person is called "a life lesson".
kenfo0 1 year ago
@kenfo0 You should get bruises and bloody noses in training. Who is denying that? Who said training is going to be easy?
Gamezero05 1 year ago
@Gamezero05 LOL. 05, practically NO ONE taking M.A. instruction gets bruises or bloody noses. There is nearly no contact in most dojos/self-defense courses. They pay money, they are taught nonsense, there is minor PT and no discipline. In return, they get a colored belt and are told they're deadly ninjas. On that note, this conversation reminded me of a comedy. Did you see "the foot-fist way"? the scene i thought of is at 1:00
watch?v=2Vv4pYda_Z0&feature=fvst I had a good laugh at that!
kenfo0 1 year ago
@kenfo0 What are you talking about? This isn't about some karate McDojo. Most jiu jitsu schools or "MMA" schools where they teach boxing, muay thai, wrestling, jiu jitsu, etc.. you will get banged up.
This isn't a womens self defense class... the story is about a legit jiu jitsu school.
You get bruises, scrapes, mat burns, cuts, bloody noses, cauliflower ear, etc. Things happen when you are training hard.
Once again, this news story is about jiu jitsu, not a women's self defense class.
Gamezero05 1 year ago
@Gamezero05 Two, exhibitions like this and most "training" today will get someone hurt, thinking they are better/tougher than they are. People tend to learn a few "moves" and are not as careful in their interactions. This is a common phenomenon. For example, a woman takes a few "women's self defense courses" now walks alone at night when she previously wouldn't. The best "self defense" training starts with teaching street smarts...where not to go or who to be near and how to get out.
kenfo0 1 year ago
@kenfo0 And I see one of your previous comments saying "When she flips him in the vid, he doesn't pull her down. It is human nature to hold on and if you are bigger you are going to drage the smaller person down."
That isn't true most of the time. Human nature tells us to catch ourself and break our fall. A natural reaction is to put your arms back to catch yourself. Of course there is the possibility of somebody grabbing you, but this usually isn't the case.
Gamezero05 1 year ago
@manzuri Jiu Jitsu won't always save you... but it gives you the best chance. If a man takes you down and tries to overpower you, jiu jitsu gives you your best chance for survival. It's as simple as that. Once your on the ground against a larger man, you're done.... unless you know jiu jitsu. Jiu jitsu gives you the ability to best protect yourself in a scenario where you would have NO chance if you didn't know the techniques.
Gamezero05 1 year ago
@Gamez The best short-term training is viciousness, not "moves". Getting and being WILLING to use a weapon GREATLY increases chances for survival. Attacking the face with something sharp, raking the face/eyes, punching (or using a weapon) to the throat, etc....very quick, giving just enough time to run. People have been THOROUGHLY COWED. Few people fight back in any way, to any kind of attack, being falsely taught it's best to hope an immoral person won't hurt you too badly. pffffft.
kenfo0 1 year ago
@Gamezero05 I am in no way disparaging JJ. I advocate tough martial arts training for kids. Teach skills, exercise, and reinforce morality that one should never attack over insults and the like. This REDUCES, not increases violence. I watch a lot of mma and am really only interested in seeing creative, skilled grappling. It sickens me to hear the punks and cowards who like to see OTHERS get hurt and bleed. Hopefully no one gets hurt, we are entertained, they get paid....sweet deal!
kenfo0 1 year ago
budo ninjutsu would be good in these kinds of situations...
it basicly implies the use of as little energy,lots of levers,and lots of motion..
the whole point of budo ninjutsu is to end the fight quickly..
BJJ+Ninjutsu is a great combiantion of styles!
try either,and you will have picked a great style!
Loveyouall91 3 years ago
that is jiu jitsu not brazilian
vitaminabcabc 3 years ago
one more time please...one more time please...one more time please...lmfao...
goofah 3 years ago
HAHa she tapped royce, classic
Kenfree 4 years ago
she tapped Royce because he let her. We all know that, even still the quick tap to a 10 minute white belt was kinda funny.
bjjartist 2 years ago
She weighs 110?
Sureeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee...
dilemmed 4 years ago
Some of you suck...BJJ def can be used in a real life situation!
Asif22 4 years ago
provided the fight is 1 on 1 and you dont get sucker punched to where your disorientated and cannot perform a cohesive defence.
basedeal 4 years ago
"It's all about what you know" hahaha
jscore55 4 years ago 2
lol true bjj is the best!!!
bjj911 4 years ago
Oh my god, Gracie teach me, lol
midweststreetracer 4 years ago
Beside from fighting Royce is a nice person. His nature is not aggressive, he's a patient man....
deonvan 4 years ago 2
Like everyone else, BJJ is a very effective martial art but it is not the do all end all of arts. Being well rounded with strikes and speed and groundfighting would be amazing. not just a boxer alone. or a wrestler alone. Maybe if you could create Bruce Lee and Royce Gracie into one person. then you would have a person who wouldn't be messed with.
azndrumm3r 4 years ago 4
Bruce Lee was an actor.
Royce Gracie is a mma champion. Going easily to the ground, Bruce Lee would be beated in a minute.
Real fights are won on the ground.
laotse1990 4 years ago
Bruce Lee don't believe in style. He might study jiu jitsu if he still alive
KLMNO67890 4 years ago
true
GuayacoKid 4 years ago
or he made it better
KLMNO67890 4 years ago
bruce lee was trained in jiu jitsu
swordmaster267 4 years ago
bjj or japanese jujutsu?
MAquaJJ 4 years ago
i think it was japanese jujutsu, he was also trained in judo and chinese grappling.
swordmaster267 4 years ago
judo, under gene lebell.
bjjcrap 3 years ago
Bruce had training in Judo.
Edalb123 2 years ago
bruce lee would destroy royce gracie in a real fight. lee was a true master of matial arts, royce is just a grappler.
swordmaster267 4 years ago 5
I fought several fight in the streets. Any style is useful. Jiu Jitsu is very good in one on one but it's use less in Gang war.
KLMNO67890 4 years ago
i try to avoid gang wars...
pgmale 4 years ago 3
gangs are for pussies
Fen3rbahce 3 years ago 21
i hear that!
pgmale 3 years ago 4
Hmm. Let's teach a woman to do a hip throw on a bigger guy. Smart move. He'd just wrap his arms around her neck, chest or waist and drag her to the ground. My advice: strike and run.
siasti 4 years ago
How dare you call BJJ self defense? It is misleading the public. Anybody who thinks that BJJ will save your life in a life or death street encounter is going to die! Imagine trying to grapple someone who unleashes a knife which he was hiding under his sleeve. And as for a gang of attackers? Do the maths.
sonofthedestroyer 4 years ago
Care to name a style that does handle knives and multiple attackers (and has DEMONSTRATED that ability at some point?)
It's true that modern BJJ is usually taught as sport rather than self-defense, but if you think it will not make a huge difference toward surviving and controlling an opponent, you need a little more experience with BJJ.
Your outraged tone is a bit telling - do you have a grudge against BJJ or something?
EpicurusThirteen 4 years ago
Care to name a style that does handle knives and multiple attackers (and has DEMONSTRATED that ability at some point?)
It's true that modern BJJ is usually taught as sport rather than self-defense, but if you think it will not make a huge difference toward surviving and controlling an opponent, you need a little more experience with BJJ.
Your outraged tone is a bit telling - do you have a grudge against BJJ or something?
EpicurusThirteen 4 years ago
"Care to name a style that does handle knives and multiple attackers (and has DEMONSTRATED that ability at some point?)" You really need to study martial arts history. Japanese jujutsu was designed for battlefield use by the samurai. It's effectiveness was demonstrated in many battles over hundreds of years. "Effective martial arts" doesn't begin or end with BJJ.
siasti 4 years ago
What makes a samurai and samurai? Their sword. So you think those guys fended off samurai, unarmed while they swung swords at them? They obviously used weapons in combination with jujutsu. Anyone who tries to fend off a samurai without a weapon is fucked no matter what kind or how much training they've had.
kommisar 4 years ago
In such case us BJJ practicioners use a gun.....problem solved.
Anderson38marinheiro 4 years ago
amen. Women want to defend themselves? Hopefully their state has a right to carry law and then a rapist gets a glock in his face.
mongoose7001 4 years ago
that's a good point but really no martial arts are sufficient in those situations for an average person. imagine bruce lee in a street fight with someone who unleashes a gun which was hiding under his sleeve. bjj is a great system for women because it's very likely that a women will end up on the ground at some point if she is attacked by a man. is it fool proof? no but it's not realistic to walk through life with a bazooka strapped to your back.
MrFaceMeetsFloor 4 years ago
haha furling
TaLoCc 4 years ago
Best strategy for self-defence: train to stay off the ground. Ground skills are helpful if you get taken to the ground but your objective shouldn't be to go the ground. BJJ was developed for one-on-one fights in controlled environments. No matter what the BJJ guys say, the ability to stay on your feet is more useful in real life.
siasti 4 years ago
The ability to stay on your feet is best developed through wrestling, BJJ, Judo, and so forth. And good luck getting out from under a large or trained opponent without good grappling skill.
EpicurusThirteen 4 years ago
You serious? Who do you think is going to be suffering more from all that magical glass and whatnot, the guy who is an expert at BJJ, or the guy who has the BJJ expert on his back, grinding his face into the ground?
EpicurusThirteen 4 years ago
You seem more interested in proving that BJJ is the most superior art than understanding another person's view so repeating myself is probably pointless, but I'll try again: ground skills are useful but a fighting strategy based on taking someone to the ground ignores the possibility of concealed weapons and / or multiple attackers. On the street, you want to be able to evade and move freely.
siasti 4 years ago
she did well he is a lot bigger than her
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gallokillerwR 4 years ago
some brazilian man jumps on you and holds you down.
RickyJ045 4 years ago
"One more time please" haha he's not use to being ontop of a woman
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emoxnerd44 4 years ago
I just started bjj 2.5 months ago and have a challenge against my dad after 6 months of bjj I said ill make him tap. FYI im 6'6" 185lbs and my dad is 6'3" 285lbs and is litteraly over twice as strong so is this good enough? oh ya for you ill do the fight on pavement and win. so stay tuned.
CodyHinojosa1989 4 years ago
Dont boast, no one cares. Obviously you havnt been practicing for long enough. Only humble fighters survive.
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exfigh261nP 4 years ago
You may say whatever you want ... if BJJ is not demonstrated on the street pavement exactly as demonstrated on this nice blue mat .. then that will mean it doesnt work outdoors...
HidenMakimono 4 years ago
Not true. The mat is merely for saftey. That judo throw he/she demonstrated , if done at full speed on the pavement, would knock the wind out of, break bones and/or cause internal bleeding.....so it does work.
Awgichew 4 years ago
Yeah sure.. Everybody SAYS that BJJ work on the street, but it was never demonstrated on the pavement, not even once !!
HidenMakimono 4 years ago
What, in your opinion, will work on the pavement?
And where do you think this martial art is practiced, on the pavement, where ppl who haven't mastered the technique can get themselves seriously fuck up?
Or on a nice soft mat, where you can perfect your techniques safely...?
Awgichew 4 years ago
Please, shut up. A demonstration IS NOT real. Ive used BJJ is self defense in parking lots and sidewalks before. Normally it happens so fast that the fight doesnt go to the ground. You should find a BJJ gym near you and ask for a first hand demonstration. IF you have ANY other questions just message me. I LOVE, BREATH, DREAM, EAT MMA.
Mike2nr 4 years ago
your a fag you obviously dont practice it check out this video and then kiss my ass
youtube(dot)com/watch?v=-s5iDzgIRng
Johnf85 4 years ago
Are you serious? There are lots on instances of BJJ working just fine on pavement. And just so you know, the mat is to protect the guy who is WORSE at grappling, not better. Throws, takedowns, and submissions are many times more damaging on a hard surface.
EpicurusThirteen 4 years ago
LOL! You guys have dirty minds!
Awgichew 4 years ago
"So you already got me from the front and from the back"
/Lollerskates!
alllucky 4 years ago
she say,...u get me for behin lol
cetrero20 4 years ago
i hate what the brazilians did with ju jitsu they comercialized it with these daft compertitions, ju jitsu should be about teaching the weak how to fight and defend against the stong, now every hard knock scally knows about it
hayrsd 4 years ago
One thing about competition is that it keeps instructors and students honest and in top form. If someone decides to make a quick buck and teach halfassed, their terrible competitiion record will give them away (or their decision to abstain from competing)
EpicurusThirteen 4 years ago
sambo is better
pilcan2k 4 years ago
i think she was turned on
miami360x 4 years ago
lmao Royce Gracie HAD HER IN THE MOUNT HAHA
abbottjkjnjnnhg 4 years ago
i'll bet some bjj guy will react to this post and say they dont automatically go to the ground in a real fight. but then i guess they have yet to finish a fight standing up. and standing up while choking is useless , i think, if you have at least 2 opponents.
bulaluhanoel 4 years ago
gracie jujitsu is lame. if you want self defense, look for bas rutten.
bulaluhanoel 4 years ago
nvm...capital jiu jitsu is the academy name, sry lol >.>;; mgbrawl is still a retard tho...
DOOOOM06 4 years ago
lmfao, wooow "Capital of Jiu Jitsu" is Brazil where it was created...mgbrawl ur a retard, 1000's of years? ._.
DOOOOM06 4 years ago
im never a fan of grappling, but with this woman i'dike to do grappling all night!without her gi, or anything she wears:)
bulaluhanoel 4 years ago
I trained with this guy yesterday at a groundfighting seminar, I still can't believe it.....still buzzing
boogaloodude 4 years ago
if you live by the sword, you die by the sword
betta144 4 years ago
Wow she has such a crush on Gracie he's not so hot!
Fupper16 4 years ago
3:54 you got me from behind
4:17 you got me from the back and the front now
marcky2006 4 years ago
LOOOOOOOOOOL ahaahaha.
rocastral 4 years ago
one more time please. one more time please. one more time please. dam royce! haha
gjj4life 4 years ago
ALL traditional tecniques, that have existed for 1000's of years! long live JJ!
mgbrawl 4 years ago
Doh, this is gracie jujitsu you moron, some of it's only existed for 60 years tops, you don't know what you're talking about.
boogaloodude 4 years ago
Yeah, it's a little bit erotic, lol.
icomputedotnet 4 years ago
I think she was enjoying it a little too much
muppet01 4 years ago
royce is a cool guy.
urbabysoncrak 4 years ago
If your in a street fight and you know BJJ, you will not be on your back. The better ground fighter will obviously be able to be on top.
cquenault 4 years ago
Its funny how Royce didn't mention his lost to Sakuraba. And that he went downhill from that point on. BJJ is better than nothing, but its different using it on a mat than on the streets where there's glass, rocks and other surprises.
MaximumJMS 4 years ago
Ah, once again..spoken by a true ignorant individual. The only thing you forgot to mention on the streets is nails, open spike pits, used condoms and lava pits. lol. If you actually trained in BJJ and knew what you were talking about, you'd realize it's not just about rolling around on the ground. It's about gaining a dominant position during a fight. Is that relevant on the street?
ualue 4 years ago
Laying down on your back on concrete cement puts a lot of strain on you. Not saying I'm good or anything, but i've been in a street fights before. Have you?
MaximumJMS 4 years ago
you realize that a BJJ player is going to be trying their damndest to get mount or side-control,get up and get away ,etc. right? the guard is not the end all and be all of the system, its just a good way to defend yourself if your stuck on your back.
thatrugbyguy 4 years ago
U obviously fought scrubs...if u are training in BJJ u want to get the TOP POSITION so u can pound the shit out of the opponent...but the BOTTOM POSITION is necessary to learn because if u go against sum1 bigger/stronger/or u are drunk u better be able to REVERSE the position. LOL if u think BJJ starts off with them spreading their legs out for u to hump them.
atran35 4 years ago
In any fight you want to get on the top position so you can pound the shit out of the opponent. My point is most of the bjj you see on UFC, Pride, etc, you cannot do some of those moves on the street(concrete floor) or else you end up hurting yourself.
MaximumJMS 4 years ago
Basic BJJ 101...double leg takedown or headlock takedown...get side position...get mount position...PUNCH PUNCH PUNCH PUNCH PUNCH. If u get taken to the ground...go guard...REVERSE or BRIDGE...get mount position...PUNCH PUNCH PUNCH PUNCH. Add in some eye gouging and biting...u'll be straight.
atran35 4 years ago
What are you talking about? Do u think that getting scratched is gonna stop me from pounding u out? And If u mean takedowns thats just stupid because Its going to to hurt u when u hit the ground not me. BTW we dont pull gaurd in street fights thats just stupid. Please explain why u made that comment
htownjiujitsu 4 years ago
1st of all, it's a street fight...u expect to be comfortable? :o lol...do ur homework b4 u talk shit kid, jiu jitsu is the most complete MA out there...i dont get u tho, did u expect Royce to tell her in details everybody he lost to? u obviously dont know wtf ur talking about so stfu dummy
DOOOOM06 4 years ago
btw..."Traditional Gracie Jiu-Jitsu is recognized as the most complete and practical real world self-defense system." quote from MMA website..U FAIL, GO DIE!
quadruple post lol >.>
DOOOOM06 4 years ago
I was studying Japanese jujutsu in the mid-1990s before Gracie Jiu-jitsu was known worldwide. I can state that the "guard / mount " were not in use Japan at that time. The "guard / mount" do seem to be an invention of Gracie Jiu-jitsu. This cannot be said for the other techniques it uses, which all exist in Jujutsu or Judo.
siasti 4 years ago
Judo does have a sort of guard. It's just that they don't play a guard game, as what you see in BJJ.
BilialX 4 years ago
lol she ignored the last comments of the newswoman
lagasolina25 4 years ago
hahahahahaha, royce gracie, the greatest champ in the world
franciscovaldes 4 years ago
he is taking advantage of her at 4:30
kazmelm213 5 years ago
Royce is 40 now. Be careful with him lady!
Jon99B 5 years ago
This is great.
DylanWan 5 years ago
any selfdefence is better than not knowi