Penderecki: "Polish Requiem" - 11 - (Agnus Dei)

[whythewar1]

Penderecki, has problems, SERIOUS problems.

[MrMerrick75]

@whythewar1

What specific "problems" do you mean? Maybe it's you who have "problems" - e.g. a racist Polonophobic attitude?

[whythewar1]

@MrMerrick75 No, I mean, I love his music - and its so not because he's polish, but, he has serious... anguish in his music - more so then Shostakovitch, which leads me to believe he hasn't had the best life in the world, and what about my statement has anything against the Polish?

[MrMerrick75]

@whythewar1

Numerous authors of comments from your country seem to be psychotic haters of Penderecki's music, or rather of Penderecki himself. The reason for this hate and vulgarity seems unmistakable. Where do you discern this alleged "anguish" in Penderecki's music? Isn't the music actually full of immense optimistic vitality? Penderecki seems always to have had a very good life, also under communism. And why do you associate Penderecki with "Shostakovitch"?

[whythewar1]

@MrMerrick75 Hmm, I guess we interpret the music differently, I'm sure you've heard the Allegro Moderato, in his third Symphony, it's a very scary piece. A lot of his music is just as stomach churning, maybe his music shows some of his deep, internal feelings of his life under Communism? Also, to answer your question, I figured Shostakovitch would be a good example as to supreme anger and darkness in music.

[MrMerrick75]

@whythewar1

In what specific way is a given piece by Penderecki - "scary"? What would be the specific factor making it scary? Can one prove it's scary? Do you believe music necessarily is the expression of the composer's "internal feelings" about the political reality he lives in? (As I suggested before, P. seemed to do very well, financially and otherwise, also under communism. The communist state often very generously supported artists, their projects.)

[whythewar1]

@MrMerrick75 That doesn't mean they're aren't a lot of limitations, and I don't think anything really could explain what makes some music scary, what makes a human afraid of the dark? What makes people happy in the light? How do I answer a question like that. 

[ourico84]

My choir won a competition with this - twice, and sung this at the anniversary events of the December 80' in Poland

[diversified21]

my choir sang it and when i heard it in a polish film 'Katyń'... it really moved me

[xEtchiSketchx]

Oh my freakin god...

Mi choir Baldwin Senior High School is doing it....Im friends with Ikoinuchan. I like this song....but It kind of sounds like so hauntingly beautiful....scary lol But i like it though.

[ratoci]

who's conducting? it seems penderecki himself...

[Shinofan02]

It isPenderecki conducting this.

[guitardude005]

This song is so haunting. My choir is working on it right now. It brings tears to my eyes as well as it brings up the memory of my friend who died, just as it was written about the composers friend...

[camilandreina]

My Choir ir working on it too!! it's really pretty, and difficult!! But we are in high spirits, this song was never sang in my country... we are the firsts!!

good luck in your rehearsals!!

[lkoinuchan]

my choir too! and we're in high school ^^

[TheSaltyDogy]

I'll never forget my first rehearsal of this song at interlochen and butchring it, and one of our directors was like " art lives here! "

[Shinofan02]

This is one of my favorite pieces of music of all time; I remember first rehearsing it, and being brought to tears by the opening line. Thank you so much for posting this amazing song.