Hah.. this is SVR07, my personal favorite too. I think my wrestlers KillerKrieg and Bruce Lee would probably take both of these guys and fuck them up.
He doesn't fight 'cause there are no aikido matches stupid. What do you want him to do? Go around picking up fights in the street for your own satisfaction?
@Hypnotized81 your the stupid one mo fo seagal is a joke and old.i dont want him to fight on the street idiot he should go in a cage,but he never will,hes full of him self,and your a seagal nut huger
@shadrachleobeck So you don't want him to pick up fights in the street just to fight in the cage. Cause ofcourse his first priority in life is to convince you about his skills. lol Do your mom and dad leave you on the net unattented? Just so you know kid, I don't give a fuck about Seagal I just can't read stupid comments that's all. Over and out.
"reality" is being an American with a dojo in downtown tokyo before you're 30. You think he never got challenged? There's no refs, one on one guarantee, or ban on weapons in a racially motivated attack in a Japanese alleyway. And you had to have at least black belt in Karate before anyone would teach you Aikido in those days, and Silva's front kick was textbook karate. Does Silva have experince in front kick arts? It's a possibility is all I'm saying.
People who claim they are experts and would knock out any higher dan fighter in any other art are idiots who dont deserve the belt they got... if u r so good, dont worry about Segal, go fight in some national and international tournaments and come back and report your results... oh YEA!!!
Seagal is an actor. His fights are choreographed with over extending attackers, his bullshit about being special forces (which in reality few get the CQC training of the elite Recondos) was long debunked. I thought his "martial art" was Atemi Jitsu, not Aikido.
JKD is alot of exercise are u kidding me? bruce lee trained every part of his body just like i do and thats just the beginning. can u post anything correct?
hahahaha now dooyeweerd is just insulting me not only on this video board but another hes mad that the facts i present own all his arguments and now he can only insult whata dumb kid id wreck this faggot
How ironic are you claming I'm insulting you on two threads when you did so first? You cannot be older than 13 to be such a nob. If you wanna "wreck" me come along to our dojo anytime. In fact why don't you come along to the British Aikido Nationals in July and see how well you do?
@dooyeweerd wow i wouldn't be surprised u actually do aikido, as i can see all u do is write youtube posts all day and maybe go to aikido 3x a week, while im strength training circuit training interval training and running everyday not including my JKD training. BTW i don't need to come to ur gay aikido dojo or wherever because AIKIDO hasn't proven itself, so you have to come to me and u can anytime, so keep posting bullshit comments and ill keep training =D
Aww. We are getting precious now aren't we? Never mind the fact you took the time to start slagging me off behind my back on another thread. I think you find plenty of time for youtube so save the 'I'm such a hard trainer I don't have time for youtube' BS. It's clear you're as hypocritical as you are stupid. Shame you have failed to appreciate the philosophy of JKD and Bruce Lee instead making it a hollow exercise. Hurry up and get through puberty.
hahahahaha this dooye guy keeps bringing up JAPAN. you fucking retarded seagal cocksucker STUDY something other then aikido so you aren't so limited ffs, how many japan fighters are in the ufc? or strikeforce? you got a couple oversized losers in pride but thats it. /watch?v=-k_uumIQ1uk go to that link and you'll hear a mma champions opinion on how practical aikido is its funny all aikido students ONLY know aikido and its no surprise cause if they learned something else they'd giveup aikido
Well then you didn't even look at my profile because I do Judo and Aikido you spastic. You donkeys talk as if the UFC is all that exists out there. You have no respect for all the fighting that goes on and has been going on in Asia for millennia before anyone even lived in the US! No doubt you're just another ignorant American. No wonder Americans are seen as stupid!!
And still you can't read eh? Talking to you is like talking to a devolved ape [sorry apes - that could be unfair on you!]. All you have is hatred and ignorance. Get an education, get through puberty and come back in two decades when you've grown up a bit.
Ah, yes the Bas comment. But then go look up his self-defense for real life situations videos. You will find there lots of JJ and moves that we use all the time in Aikido. And again you claim ALL aikido students ONLY know aikido which is a lie. Seagal trained in many martial arts and has a black belt in karate also. My original martial art is judo - I do this and aikido and would be very confident that the two together would be enough to help me out since they already have.
Aikido deniers are always soo pathetic. Their whole frame of reference is padded little playfights they do in their taekwondo class, and sports entertainment fightig like WWE and UFC. That's not reality!! Having your life actually threatened is what Aikido is for. It's not like the movies where some flashy high kicks will take out mutliple attackers. Aikido is just beyond the comprehension of pussies who have never had to save their own life.
People always knock seagal, pondering whether he can use aikido in a real situation, and I always hear people on here saying they can floor him. Ignore the black belt in aikido and karate. He's 6'4" and a big guy. Now if many people say they would knock out a guy that tall with ease (as I hear so often) they're kindding themselves
I agree, Seagal comes across as cocky in his movies but he is an aikido master. He was the first non japanese person to open an aikido dojo in japan. He was criticized and challenged by Japanese masters on many occasion.
I've trained and competed in martial arts. I'm good, but I don't think I would win against seagal.
People confuse his characters in his movies with the real man. Van damme calls him a coward for refusing a fight.
It seems responsible to refuse to fight a drunk van damme.
@shinigami19xx Many people who train other disciplines don't view Aikido as a "Real" martial art, at least in regards to its effectiveness in self defense/live combat situations. Aikido is kind of like the ballet of the martial word. While many who train Aikido swear by it, it has yet to be shown effective in any of the "Vale Tudo" (no hold barred) fighting events. Aikido fans claim the art to be too deadly- yet fighters are killed all the time in the boxing ring in the US and around the world.
@dooyeweerd Ive seen the video you're linking to. The video is a fraud. None of those men are actual fighter and at no time do they try actual attacks on the Aikido expert. I know enough to know when I'm being lied to and I know what real attacks look like vs fake bullshit. Don't be so easily duped.
I've trained personally with Omori and I can tell you he's no fraud. If you want to try attacking him I can pass on the adress of his dojo. Trouble is twats like you watch ten minutes and write it off. It's you utter lack of respect that annoys me. I wish you would go to an Aikido dojo in Japan and swagger in there claiming it won't work. It would be so funny!
@dooyeweerd You're pretty fast with the name calling - yet you talk about showing respect. Find me a video of someone using AIkido in a real "fight" situation or piss off.
I'm not going to show someone like you any respect since you don't deserve any. Finding a video of any martial art in a 'real' life-threatening situation is near impossible since the last thing people do in those moments is record them you dickhead. The only videos are those where it's set up or sport. You wouldn't know about such things tosser.
@dooyeweerd So that's a no on any videos of AIkido working in real life? Funny, I can find you videos of people using boxing and BJJ techniques in real life.. your not very good at the name calling, fyi, but I'm not surprised. No doubt your man lover has repeatedly rammed your head into the wall while butt blasting you, causing brain damage.
Brilliant! An arm bar. Now where did BJJ get that from? Well that would be Judo. Aikido also uses the arm bar too. So all you've succeeded in doing here is not being aware that all of these martial arts share the same heritage through Ju-Jutsu. Bravo. Now we know you're a complete ignoramous. I thought as much but thanks for demonstrating it! Cheers!
@dooyeweerd Sure, most martial arts do share a common ancestor, but it is how they've evolved which matters. BJJ teaches how to apply techniques in real life situations against opponents who are trying to cause you damage- the video I showed you is a perfect example. Aikido is NOT trained in the same way as BJJ and I have yet to see anyone actually use Aikido techniques outside of a movie or demo.
Well then you ought to get out more! Japanese culture had mastered the art of fighting before your culture was even born. Strange how that culture has embraced Aikido? Very odd how it's not laughed at in that culture?
And the point about the video you referenced is there's no telling whether this kid is using JJ, Aikido, Judo, Sambo or BJJ! The point is it's a technique common to all those traditions. The arm bar is as old as fighting itself.
@dooyeweerd "Maybe you should stick with watching your new-age meditation vids? " No idea what you are talking about. I'm not into meditation. Maybe you should pull your head out of your ass. Movies and video games aren't real life, you don't know shit about martial arts. STFU and get lost.
And you don't even know the history of your own MA! Shame on you.
It was a JUDO LEGEND, Mitsuyo Maeda who went to the USA and Brazil and taught Kodokan Judo and Carlos Gracie ended up being one of his students. Thus BJJ was born.
At that time judo was known as "kano's Jui Jitsu", and wasn't practiced as it is today, Judo was basicaly a collection of JJ techniques and moves- it is more correct to say BJJ comes from JJ, than to say that it comes from judo, because modern judo and BJJ evolved on to separate paths. To say that BJJ comes from Judo is misleading. BJJ and Judo come from JJ.
Judo evolved from JJ. And BJJ evolved from a legendary kodokan Judo master. No doubt both owe their origins and inspiration from JJ. The point being that you picked a clip of someone performing a move which is generic to the family of MAs which all share much from JJ. Thus since it is a move you can find commonly in Judo and Aikido you cannot possibly use this as evidence that BJJ works in real situations and the other two don't. That's an absurdity.
@dooyeweerd 1st off there's the title of the video, 2nd the kid is fighting off of his back, from an open guard, typical of BJJ. Are you really going to claim that BJJ is no good for real life situations? Your lack of reasoning is whats absurd here.
You're not even bloddy well listening so what's the point of talking to you? Have I EVER claimed that BJJ doesn't work? Ever? Please, quote me saying that! If you can't then you're misreading me. And you are. To claim that is to claim that moves common to all the MAs founded upon JJ don't work and that would be self-defeating to my cause. Fighting off the back is NOT the property of BJJ though. C'mon and listen! It's common to almost all Japanese Budo arts!! Listen!!
And had you quoted the context around that you would have seen is that what I was talking about was the intellectual property of the move itself. In other words you cannot claim the arm bar is the property of BJJ because it's not. Of course the arm bar works in real situations. My point was that you disparage much JJ in disparaging Aikido. Then you get footage of a tradition JJ move!
@dooyeweerd Well, we've got the title of the video to go off of and we've got the way the fighter transitioned to and executed the arm bar- if you can't plainly see that for BJJ, then I can't help you. Aikido is not the same as BJJ in that it has evolved upon a much different path, stressing the instruction of a philosophy more than effective techniques.
It's an ARM BAR! Not an exclusive move from BJJ. Jodokas have been using that for centuries prior to BJJ and JJ has been using it forever. The point is you cannot argue from an ARM BAR that BJJ works and JJ / AIkido / Judo don't - that's just plain stupid. But then you're so stupid you can't even see that. And your comment on Aikido convinces me you don't even know the first thing about the art.
@dooyeweerd You asked me for an example of someone using BJJ in a street fight- here you go. While joint locks are common in most martial arts, its how you get there thats key- pretending the video shows other than someone with BJJ training using BJJ techniques in a street fight is what is stupid. Stop being an idiot! Oh and I never said Judo doesn't work- I take issue with the effectiveness of Aikido specifically.
Well then I must inform my sensei that arm bars are no longer allowed for aikidoka since that would be an effective move and aikidoka are not allowed any effective moves according to you! Duh!!
@dooyeweerd "While joint locks are common in most martial arts, its how you get there thats key-" I wrote that earlier, I guess you missed it. I believe that the problem in Aikido is the way in which it is trained, with a possible exception for Shodokan Aikido, which I would like to study. I've trained in various MA over the years and find you get the most benefit in regards to things you could use in real life when you spar with someone who isn't playing along.
Well it's interesting you say that because Shodokan Aikido is what I do although I have done traditional Aikido too. But whilst I would agree that some school's of Aikido have become too sissy that is not how it started out. I think Western culture is to blame. Aikido is a budo originally. And budo is something very odd to modern western culture. I think sport versions of an art are extremely helpful and that's why I do Shodokan.
I agree that you need proper resistence. However, the traditional form of Aikido in Japan - Yoshinkan Aikido is an extremely hard style and many do not make it to black belt in that style. It retains the use of atemi strikes [as does Shodokan] in order to aid the lock to be put on. It is the style Japanese police train in and is extremely effective.
Also, as you're no doubt aware, in real life we cannot go around punching people as if we lived in feudal Japan! I have a job that I could lose if I was conficted of actual bodily harm. Aikido is therefore perfect. For you are constantly learning how to cause an opponent to submit through use of locks, holds, pressure points and joint manipulation. That is whyI see BJJ as useful too for it achieves this well.
@dooyeweerd The thing I like most about BJJ, is how it is trained. After learning technique you pair up and "roll" with a partner, each trying to submit the other. This causes you to develop the ability to actually apply your techniques against the unwilling, so when you need them they are there. It also greatly improves strength, stamina and focus during physical confrontations.
Well we've found some common ground then. I agree that's essential. This is why I love Shodokan Aikido. I have never been as tired in my life as I am at the end of a Judo or Aikido bout. It takes everything out of you and test whether you can use techinique rather than just strength at such moments which is so essential. What's great as well is if you can do your technique against someone who knows what's coming you stand a much better chance against someone who doesn't!
@dooyeweerd I find the training to be addictive. If I don't roll I get stressed and I'm quick to anger. We have some pretty hardcore athletes at my JJ school. I went to a tournement recently and was blown away by how good some of the younger kids were- they wrestle and train JJ on the side- wow, talk about tomorrows MMA stars! I wish JJ was more popular where I lived growing up so I could have started earlier.
I can certainly relate to what you say. I did a very anti-sport version of Aikido for a few months but got very frustrated with it. It never got the addrenaline going. I think to get muscle memory good you have to do it when that's flowing. In Japan, when I trained there, to make you remember what you're doing you get hit even if you do the technique right!! I do actually miss that now. Western MA are not quite the same!
@dooyeweerd Yeah it seems like Aikido is all over the place- with different schools training in entirely different ways. I've studied primarily BJJ and I like that most schools have the same requirements for advancement- I just wish the schools in my area weren't so expensive; my current school is $130 a month!
Well not just Aikido I don't think. I think a lot of Martial Arts as they are taught in the Western world are mere shadows of what they are in Asia. Just the way it is a way of life there not merely a hobby I do three times a week or whatever it may be. Have you seen the series 'Fight Quest'? That's well worth a look.
@dooyeweerd I watch that show, its pretty interesting. I liked when they went to Mexico to study boxing, which I think is an AWESOME and totally under rated art. I would caution you to beware though, Asia is not immune to bullshit arts, I've seen fake ass ki masters from Asia, the US and Russia. Pretty much anywhere you find people, you're likely to find someone willing to lie to make a buck.
That is true. And then there are some very good dojos in the western world too. I just think the % of quality dojos still favours Asia though currently. And I can only speak from my experience but I know I learnt more in one year in Japan than in five years back here [although that was training every single day].
@jakesilv hey jake i already owned dooyeweerd on another video with posts he is very insulting once he realizes your right so im not surprised hes insulting u. Seagal is 0-0 and talked shit like he could beat up anyone UNTIL van damme challenged him then seagal stopped talking and snuck out of stallones house. he knows aikido isn't practical ESPECIALLY against van damme whos 18-1. whata surprise the only video stating seagal in a real fight is actually a video game =D
How deluded are you butt whipe. You didn't "own" anything. You made a comment that's all. And a poor one at that. The ONLY thing you're an expert at is talking shit!
@shinigami19xx your joking right? van damme did what i or any other martial artist would do challenge him. if seagal wasn't claiming he could beat up anyone in the world and being all cocky then van damme wouldn't of challenged him and me either but if he does then even i would of dropped seagal that night if he wasn't a pussy. black belt in aikido who cares? he could be the #1 top rank hes still limited to aikido and his physical capabilities. go to hong kong theres a GRANDmaster on every block
@shinigami19xx u expect grandmasters to chill on street corners are u 8 yrs old? ok this guys not even worth time and yes seagal would dodge my challenge like the pussy he is. OK bedbug84 you mean his bodyguard hit him out of no where when he was drunk that means hes a shit fighter? and forget 20 wins by knockout compared to seagals 0 but then again seagal did tell lebell he couldn't even get close enough to choke him where the next 6 seconds hes shitting his pants so seagal 0-1 van damme 20-2
@MartialExpert I should point out that I am not a huge fan of either Segal or Van Damme. But if the 2 squared off, I would definitely put my money on Segal.
You seem to be taking this really personally, if you really love Van Damme why don't you marry him?
@shinigami19xx so i love van damme because i proved he would fuck up seagal? ooo i pissed you off of course u think he would win your on a seagal video because you like him im just trying to see if i can find any skill in him at all. im proving why hes not a fighter, facts are facts im sorry i hurt you by proving your hero would get owned by thousands of people. it should be obvious though seagal sweats from blocking fake punches on lawman while real fighters do 4+ hours a day training come on
@MartialExpert hey, didn't van damme just have a heart attack or something? did you really ask him to marry you!?
I did mention that I am not a big fan of either, but you obviously didn't actually read my comment, just imagined what I may have written and proceeded to reply telling me how much you love van damme and you want to have his baby etc..
Like I said, I would put my money on segal in that match up. I would also put money on chuck noris over segal. Just being realistic here.
@shinigami19xx Plus the last time I remember Van Damme picking a fight it was against Hell's Angel Chuck Zeto at Studio 54 in NYC back in the early 90's and Zeto allegedly destroyed him.
i think that Jet li will jump in there and kick all there asses then all of a sudden jackie chang comes in with lil wayne and jet li and jackie kills lil wayne then Barbra walters comes out of no where and pisses on lil wayne.
You people ask WHY you never see Aikido used in "real life." The same reason you don't see any other MA used in real life. Cameras don't happen to be rolling when MANY things in real life happen.
Oh, yeah...MMA is 'REAL' alright. I can't count how many times I walk around town and find myself in a WRESTLING RING with a big guy who just wants to beat me up for no apparent reason. lol.
Look. Think about what you said there. In an Aikdo demo. They do that to show moves. In a real fight you just end up being thrown. I have personally seen it in action being used by Aikido trained police officers in a real life combat situation. It was impressive.
so you say , I dont think that you,ve really seen what steven seagal can do with his aikido.that type of defense can be really raw you know.dont think you wanted to face him in a fight ,but if that ever happens he would take you down in no time at all,or if not he would give you a fight to remember thats for sure.before you say anymore try get some facts aboute it and watch some clips or full movies with steven seagal use it.he knows what hes talking aboute you dont thats for sure.
Yeah, it was a Judo olympic champion. Seagal is famous for abusing his stuntmen and hitting them in the b*lls. Some stuntman brought the Olympic judo champion who called Seagal out to try hitting his b*lls. He put Seagal in a choke hold when Seagal tried to attack his b*lls. Seagal passed out and lost control of his bladder.
yo is the wwe like one big movie they tell the wrestlers how to act they give stort lines to go by they have scripts when they talk shit on da mic is dat true
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allouTV 4 months ago
pinches mamadas
viejolocoish 4 months ago
dumbness
tacomonster98 5 months ago
Tune!
SuperSkunk405 6 months ago
eres el mejor continua como aste agora
pedrocosta11hdi 8 months ago
cool, seagal won, i was worried there for a sec
testfoecho 8 months ago
wat a waste off tym losers have nufn else to do
rachaelreweti 9 months ago
lol....Do your mom and dad leave you on the net unattended? hillarious
simmonsfrancis1 9 months ago
Who the fuck is this cherry? (@shadrachleobeck)
ThePima86 10 months ago
seagal is telling every one he tought the spider that front kick lol what a fukin old terd
shadrachleobeck 10 months ago
@shadrachleobeck anderson silva said he learnt from steven
xXxNightMareZ 9 months ago
Hah.. this is SVR07, my personal favorite too. I think my wrestlers KillerKrieg and Bruce Lee would probably take both of these guys and fuck them up.
KillerKrieg 1 year ago
if seagal is so good how come he never fights,hes a fukin poser,alls he dose is siminstrations
shadrachleobeck 1 year ago
@shadrachleobeck He is an Aikido master...I do Aikido...There's no competiotion in Aikido: it's an art of peace...
If you knew aikido philosophy you could understand
ziopeperino 11 months ago
@ziopeperino thats a nice cover story
shadrachleobeck 10 months ago
@shadrachleobeck
He doesn't fight 'cause there are no aikido matches stupid. What do you want him to do? Go around picking up fights in the street for your own satisfaction?
Hypnotized81 10 months ago
@Hypnotized81 your the stupid one mo fo seagal is a joke and old.i dont want him to fight on the street idiot he should go in a cage,but he never will,hes full of him self,and your a seagal nut huger
shadrachleobeck 10 months ago
@shadrachleobeck So you don't want him to pick up fights in the street just to fight in the cage. Cause ofcourse his first priority in life is to convince you about his skills. lol Do your mom and dad leave you on the net unattented? Just so you know kid, I don't give a fuck about Seagal I just can't read stupid comments that's all. Over and out.
Hypnotized81 10 months ago
@Hypnotized81 idot!its not just me that wants to see him fight how about everyone wants to see seagal get put into reality
shadrachleobeck 10 months ago
@shadrachleobeck
"reality" is being an American with a dojo in downtown tokyo before you're 30. You think he never got challenged? There's no refs, one on one guarantee, or ban on weapons in a racially motivated attack in a Japanese alleyway. And you had to have at least black belt in Karate before anyone would teach you Aikido in those days, and Silva's front kick was textbook karate. Does Silva have experince in front kick arts? It's a possibility is all I'm saying.
pimpdalyrical 9 months ago
I'm a Sabonim 4th dan at Taekido, a hybrid. Seagal is a great master and the first non Japanese master at Aikido.
isisncasey 1 year ago
oh for god sakes...if you don't like segal will you at least complain about him somewhere else..this is a f'ing video game -.-
CheetaRevised 1 year ago
just watch some of he s series of Lawman...it ll change your opinion about him.
duxante 1 year ago
People who claim they are experts and would knock out any higher dan fighter in any other art are idiots who dont deserve the belt they got... if u r so good, dont worry about Segal, go fight in some national and international tournaments and come back and report your results... oh YEA!!!
TheCajunAsian 1 year ago
Steven seagal doesn´t atack only counter atacks!
Youtubitiano 1 year ago
such a good fight
kirklands0912 1 year ago
Seagal is an actor. His fights are choreographed with over extending attackers, his bullshit about being special forces (which in reality few get the CQC training of the elite Recondos) was long debunked. I thought his "martial art" was Atemi Jitsu, not Aikido.
howlingsandy 1 year ago
Funny how the only examples we can find on youtube of people using Aikido against non-cooperative opponents are from video games. Makes you wonder!
jakesilv 1 year ago
JKD is alot of exercise are u kidding me? bruce lee trained every part of his body just like i do and thats just the beginning. can u post anything correct?
MartialExpert 1 year ago
hahahaha now dooyeweerd is just insulting me not only on this video board but another hes mad that the facts i present own all his arguments and now he can only insult whata dumb kid id wreck this faggot
MartialExpert 1 year ago
@MartialExpert
How ironic are you claming I'm insulting you on two threads when you did so first? You cannot be older than 13 to be such a nob. If you wanna "wreck" me come along to our dojo anytime. In fact why don't you come along to the British Aikido Nationals in July and see how well you do?
dooyeweerd 1 year ago
@dooyeweerd wow i wouldn't be surprised u actually do aikido, as i can see all u do is write youtube posts all day and maybe go to aikido 3x a week, while im strength training circuit training interval training and running everyday not including my JKD training. BTW i don't need to come to ur gay aikido dojo or wherever because AIKIDO hasn't proven itself, so you have to come to me and u can anytime, so keep posting bullshit comments and ill keep training =D
MartialExpert 1 year ago
@MartialExpert
Aww. We are getting precious now aren't we? Never mind the fact you took the time to start slagging me off behind my back on another thread. I think you find plenty of time for youtube so save the 'I'm such a hard trainer I don't have time for youtube' BS. It's clear you're as hypocritical as you are stupid. Shame you have failed to appreciate the philosophy of JKD and Bruce Lee instead making it a hollow exercise. Hurry up and get through puberty.
dooyeweerd 1 year ago
hahahahaha this dooye guy keeps bringing up JAPAN. you fucking retarded seagal cocksucker STUDY something other then aikido so you aren't so limited ffs, how many japan fighters are in the ufc? or strikeforce? you got a couple oversized losers in pride but thats it. /watch?v=-k_uumIQ1uk go to that link and you'll hear a mma champions opinion on how practical aikido is its funny all aikido students ONLY know aikido and its no surprise cause if they learned something else they'd giveup aikido
MartialExpert 1 year ago
@MartialExpert
Well then you didn't even look at my profile because I do Judo and Aikido you spastic. You donkeys talk as if the UFC is all that exists out there. You have no respect for all the fighting that goes on and has been going on in Asia for millennia before anyone even lived in the US! No doubt you're just another ignorant American. No wonder Americans are seen as stupid!!
dooyeweerd 1 year ago
@MartialExpert
And still you can't read eh? Talking to you is like talking to a devolved ape [sorry apes - that could be unfair on you!]. All you have is hatred and ignorance. Get an education, get through puberty and come back in two decades when you've grown up a bit.
dooyeweerd 1 year ago
@MartialExpert
Ah, yes the Bas comment. But then go look up his self-defense for real life situations videos. You will find there lots of JJ and moves that we use all the time in Aikido. And again you claim ALL aikido students ONLY know aikido which is a lie. Seagal trained in many martial arts and has a black belt in karate also. My original martial art is judo - I do this and aikido and would be very confident that the two together would be enough to help me out since they already have.
dooyeweerd 1 year ago
Aikido deniers are always soo pathetic. Their whole frame of reference is padded little playfights they do in their taekwondo class, and sports entertainment fightig like WWE and UFC. That's not reality!! Having your life actually threatened is what Aikido is for. It's not like the movies where some flashy high kicks will take out mutliple attackers. Aikido is just beyond the comprehension of pussies who have never had to save their own life.
pimpdalyrical 1 year ago
Is this a game? What console? Where can I get it?
hmurdock 1 year ago
wtf is thic crap ??
w26240 1 year ago
vale verga tu video
pichucho24 1 year ago
Ya Steven is a King; a Burger King!
tedfio1tedfio1 2 years ago
Just goes to show you Steven is king!
ebnflowandell 2 years ago
Uma porcaria...coisa de criança, coloca o cara fazendo na real!
sayoonará!
butokukendokan 2 years ago
Not good to follow / Not healthy for enjoyment.
TigerJohn1948 2 years ago
does anyone know the song that steven came out to?
peacock3579 2 years ago
paradise city by guns and roses
liamashley69 2 years ago
hehe the song is Guns N' Roses-paradise city!!!
leonistik 2 years ago
lame
maticzadnik 2 years ago
fucking video!! you're just wasting my time! i need steaven seagal in real in his video not like this!!
rmjforeveriloveyou 2 years ago 2
me too, but we're never going to see that. unless it's a pie eating contest
devastateurface 2 years ago
When you can grab the pebble from my hand, it will time for you to leave.
YeagerP51 2 years ago
chuck norris is real
pg2120 2 years ago
LOL, Seagal comes out to the same song Radioactive Man comes out to in UWF.
WEEGEEIsHere 2 years ago
yes but I'm italian. ihih sorry
baggio67 2 years ago
People always knock seagal, pondering whether he can use aikido in a real situation, and I always hear people on here saying they can floor him. Ignore the black belt in aikido and karate. He's 6'4" and a big guy. Now if many people say they would knock out a guy that tall with ease (as I hear so often) they're kindding themselves
KurtCobain198666 2 years ago 27
o god i know i have a friend that claimed that he sparred against him ...which is bull, also claimed that he knows all martial arts...
snipertenten 2 years ago
I hate it when people lie about martial arts, it bugs me
KurtCobain198666 2 years ago 2
Your mate sounds like a bit of a dickhead TBH :S
doow90 2 years ago
well said
drunkenstate 2 years ago
thank you
KurtCobain198666 2 years ago
I agree, Seagal comes across as cocky in his movies but he is an aikido master. He was the first non japanese person to open an aikido dojo in japan. He was criticized and challenged by Japanese masters on many occasion.
I've trained and competed in martial arts. I'm good, but I don't think I would win against seagal.
People confuse his characters in his movies with the real man. Van damme calls him a coward for refusing a fight.
It seems responsible to refuse to fight a drunk van damme.
shinigami19xx 2 years ago 33
I'd never throw a punch to Seagal, he really is that fast. People don't think he is anymore, but he's still got it
KurtCobain198666 2 years ago 6
not as fast as jet li have u seen him train!!
preciosaare 2 years ago
Well said.
POPPASHANGO 2 years ago
I agree my friend, seagal is a professional fighter aikido master, that's why he refuse to fight to a drunk van damme..
rmjforeveriloveyou 2 years ago 2
@shinigami19xx Many people who train other disciplines don't view Aikido as a "Real" martial art, at least in regards to its effectiveness in self defense/live combat situations. Aikido is kind of like the ballet of the martial word. While many who train Aikido swear by it, it has yet to be shown effective in any of the "Vale Tudo" (no hold barred) fighting events. Aikido fans claim the art to be too deadly- yet fighters are killed all the time in the boxing ring in the US and around the world.
jakesilv 1 year ago
@jakesilv
Inform yourself better. Watch this:
v=8H5kG_3UqEM
dooyeweerd 1 year ago
@dooyeweerd Ive seen the video you're linking to. The video is a fraud. None of those men are actual fighter and at no time do they try actual attacks on the Aikido expert. I know enough to know when I'm being lied to and I know what real attacks look like vs fake bullshit. Don't be so easily duped.
jakesilv 1 year ago
@jakesilv
I've trained personally with Omori and I can tell you he's no fraud. If you want to try attacking him I can pass on the adress of his dojo. Trouble is twats like you watch ten minutes and write it off. It's you utter lack of respect that annoys me. I wish you would go to an Aikido dojo in Japan and swagger in there claiming it won't work. It would be so funny!
dooyeweerd 1 year ago
@dooyeweerd You're pretty fast with the name calling - yet you talk about showing respect. Find me a video of someone using AIkido in a real "fight" situation or piss off.
jakesilv 1 year ago
@jakesilv
I'm not going to show someone like you any respect since you don't deserve any. Finding a video of any martial art in a 'real' life-threatening situation is near impossible since the last thing people do in those moments is record them you dickhead. The only videos are those where it's set up or sport. You wouldn't know about such things tosser.
dooyeweerd 1 year ago
@dooyeweerd So that's a no on any videos of AIkido working in real life? Funny, I can find you videos of people using boxing and BJJ techniques in real life.. your not very good at the name calling, fyi, but I'm not surprised. No doubt your man lover has repeatedly rammed your head into the wall while butt blasting you, causing brain damage.
jakesilv 1 year ago
@jakesilv
Show me some of those supposed "real" fights then?
dooyeweerd 1 year ago
@dooyeweerd - watch?v=befAdriVcQU
Here's some an actual fight, one kid obviously knows some BJJ, breaks the other kids arm. There's plenty on youtube, searn for BJJ fight
jakesilv 1 year ago
@jakesilv
Brilliant! An arm bar. Now where did BJJ get that from? Well that would be Judo. Aikido also uses the arm bar too. So all you've succeeded in doing here is not being aware that all of these martial arts share the same heritage through Ju-Jutsu. Bravo. Now we know you're a complete ignoramous. I thought as much but thanks for demonstrating it! Cheers!
dooyeweerd 1 year ago
@dooyeweerd Sure, most martial arts do share a common ancestor, but it is how they've evolved which matters. BJJ teaches how to apply techniques in real life situations against opponents who are trying to cause you damage- the video I showed you is a perfect example. Aikido is NOT trained in the same way as BJJ and I have yet to see anyone actually use Aikido techniques outside of a movie or demo.
jakesilv 1 year ago
@jakesilv
Well then you ought to get out more! Japanese culture had mastered the art of fighting before your culture was even born. Strange how that culture has embraced Aikido? Very odd how it's not laughed at in that culture?
And the point about the video you referenced is there's no telling whether this kid is using JJ, Aikido, Judo, Sambo or BJJ! The point is it's a technique common to all those traditions. The arm bar is as old as fighting itself.
dooyeweerd 1 year ago
@jakesilv
Maybe you should stick with watching your new-age meditation vids?
dooyeweerd 1 year ago
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@dooyeweerd "Maybe you should stick with watching your new-age meditation vids? " No idea what you are talking about. I'm not into meditation. Maybe you should pull your head out of your ass. Movies and video games aren't real life, you don't know shit about martial arts. STFU and get lost.
jakesilv 1 year ago
@dooyeweerd And BJJ does not come from Judo. BJJ comes from JJ, it was created in Brazil for no holds barred fighting and self defense.
jakesilv 1 year ago
@jakesilv
And you don't even know the history of your own MA! Shame on you.
It was a JUDO LEGEND, Mitsuyo Maeda who went to the USA and Brazil and taught Kodokan Judo and Carlos Gracie ended up being one of his students. Thus BJJ was born.
dooyeweerd 1 year ago
At that time judo was known as "kano's Jui Jitsu", and wasn't practiced as it is today, Judo was basicaly a collection of JJ techniques and moves- it is more correct to say BJJ comes from JJ, than to say that it comes from judo, because modern judo and BJJ evolved on to separate paths. To say that BJJ comes from Judo is misleading. BJJ and Judo come from JJ.
jakesilv 1 year ago
@jakesilv
Judo evolved from JJ. And BJJ evolved from a legendary kodokan Judo master. No doubt both owe their origins and inspiration from JJ. The point being that you picked a clip of someone performing a move which is generic to the family of MAs which all share much from JJ. Thus since it is a move you can find commonly in Judo and Aikido you cannot possibly use this as evidence that BJJ works in real situations and the other two don't. That's an absurdity.
dooyeweerd 1 year ago
@dooyeweerd 1st off there's the title of the video, 2nd the kid is fighting off of his back, from an open guard, typical of BJJ. Are you really going to claim that BJJ is no good for real life situations? Your lack of reasoning is whats absurd here.
jakesilv 1 year ago
@jakesilv
You're not even bloddy well listening so what's the point of talking to you? Have I EVER claimed that BJJ doesn't work? Ever? Please, quote me saying that! If you can't then you're misreading me. And you are. To claim that is to claim that moves common to all the MAs founded upon JJ don't work and that would be self-defeating to my cause. Fighting off the back is NOT the property of BJJ though. C'mon and listen! It's common to almost all Japanese Budo arts!! Listen!!
dooyeweerd 1 year ago
@dooyeweerd "you cannot possibly use this as evidence that BJJ works in real situations " - Here you go.
jakesilv 1 year ago
@jakesilv
And had you quoted the context around that you would have seen is that what I was talking about was the intellectual property of the move itself. In other words you cannot claim the arm bar is the property of BJJ because it's not. Of course the arm bar works in real situations. My point was that you disparage much JJ in disparaging Aikido. Then you get footage of a tradition JJ move!
dooyeweerd 1 year ago
@dooyeweerd Well, we've got the title of the video to go off of and we've got the way the fighter transitioned to and executed the arm bar- if you can't plainly see that for BJJ, then I can't help you. Aikido is not the same as BJJ in that it has evolved upon a much different path, stressing the instruction of a philosophy more than effective techniques.
jakesilv 1 year ago
@jakesilv
It's an ARM BAR! Not an exclusive move from BJJ. Jodokas have been using that for centuries prior to BJJ and JJ has been using it forever. The point is you cannot argue from an ARM BAR that BJJ works and JJ / AIkido / Judo don't - that's just plain stupid. But then you're so stupid you can't even see that. And your comment on Aikido convinces me you don't even know the first thing about the art.
dooyeweerd 1 year ago
@dooyeweerd You asked me for an example of someone using BJJ in a street fight- here you go. While joint locks are common in most martial arts, its how you get there thats key- pretending the video shows other than someone with BJJ training using BJJ techniques in a street fight is what is stupid. Stop being an idiot! Oh and I never said Judo doesn't work- I take issue with the effectiveness of Aikido specifically.
jakesilv 1 year ago
@jakesilv
Well then I must inform my sensei that arm bars are no longer allowed for aikidoka since that would be an effective move and aikidoka are not allowed any effective moves according to you! Duh!!
dooyeweerd 1 year ago
@dooyeweerd "While joint locks are common in most martial arts, its how you get there thats key-" I wrote that earlier, I guess you missed it. I believe that the problem in Aikido is the way in which it is trained, with a possible exception for Shodokan Aikido, which I would like to study. I've trained in various MA over the years and find you get the most benefit in regards to things you could use in real life when you spar with someone who isn't playing along.
jakesilv 1 year ago
@jakesilv
Well it's interesting you say that because Shodokan Aikido is what I do although I have done traditional Aikido too. But whilst I would agree that some school's of Aikido have become too sissy that is not how it started out. I think Western culture is to blame. Aikido is a budo originally. And budo is something very odd to modern western culture. I think sport versions of an art are extremely helpful and that's why I do Shodokan.
dooyeweerd 1 year ago
@jakesilv
I agree that you need proper resistence. However, the traditional form of Aikido in Japan - Yoshinkan Aikido is an extremely hard style and many do not make it to black belt in that style. It retains the use of atemi strikes [as does Shodokan] in order to aid the lock to be put on. It is the style Japanese police train in and is extremely effective.
dooyeweerd 1 year ago
@jakesilv
Also, as you're no doubt aware, in real life we cannot go around punching people as if we lived in feudal Japan! I have a job that I could lose if I was conficted of actual bodily harm. Aikido is therefore perfect. For you are constantly learning how to cause an opponent to submit through use of locks, holds, pressure points and joint manipulation. That is whyI see BJJ as useful too for it achieves this well.
dooyeweerd 1 year ago
@dooyeweerd The thing I like most about BJJ, is how it is trained. After learning technique you pair up and "roll" with a partner, each trying to submit the other. This causes you to develop the ability to actually apply your techniques against the unwilling, so when you need them they are there. It also greatly improves strength, stamina and focus during physical confrontations.
jakesilv 1 year ago
@jakesilv
Well we've found some common ground then. I agree that's essential. This is why I love Shodokan Aikido. I have never been as tired in my life as I am at the end of a Judo or Aikido bout. It takes everything out of you and test whether you can use techinique rather than just strength at such moments which is so essential. What's great as well is if you can do your technique against someone who knows what's coming you stand a much better chance against someone who doesn't!
dooyeweerd 1 year ago
@dooyeweerd I find the training to be addictive. If I don't roll I get stressed and I'm quick to anger. We have some pretty hardcore athletes at my JJ school. I went to a tournement recently and was blown away by how good some of the younger kids were- they wrestle and train JJ on the side- wow, talk about tomorrows MMA stars! I wish JJ was more popular where I lived growing up so I could have started earlier.
jakesilv 1 year ago
@jakesilv
I can certainly relate to what you say. I did a very anti-sport version of Aikido for a few months but got very frustrated with it. It never got the addrenaline going. I think to get muscle memory good you have to do it when that's flowing. In Japan, when I trained there, to make you remember what you're doing you get hit even if you do the technique right!! I do actually miss that now. Western MA are not quite the same!
dooyeweerd 1 year ago
@dooyeweerd Yeah it seems like Aikido is all over the place- with different schools training in entirely different ways. I've studied primarily BJJ and I like that most schools have the same requirements for advancement- I just wish the schools in my area weren't so expensive; my current school is $130 a month!
jakesilv 1 year ago
@jakesilv
Well not just Aikido I don't think. I think a lot of Martial Arts as they are taught in the Western world are mere shadows of what they are in Asia. Just the way it is a way of life there not merely a hobby I do three times a week or whatever it may be. Have you seen the series 'Fight Quest'? That's well worth a look.
dooyeweerd 1 year ago
@dooyeweerd I watch that show, its pretty interesting. I liked when they went to Mexico to study boxing, which I think is an AWESOME and totally under rated art. I would caution you to beware though, Asia is not immune to bullshit arts, I've seen fake ass ki masters from Asia, the US and Russia. Pretty much anywhere you find people, you're likely to find someone willing to lie to make a buck.
jakesilv 1 year ago
@jakesilv
That is true. And then there are some very good dojos in the western world too. I just think the % of quality dojos still favours Asia though currently. And I can only speak from my experience but I know I learnt more in one year in Japan than in five years back here [although that was training every single day].
dooyeweerd 1 year ago
@jakesilv hey jake i already owned dooyeweerd on another video with posts he is very insulting once he realizes your right so im not surprised hes insulting u. Seagal is 0-0 and talked shit like he could beat up anyone UNTIL van damme challenged him then seagal stopped talking and snuck out of stallones house. he knows aikido isn't practical ESPECIALLY against van damme whos 18-1. whata surprise the only video stating seagal in a real fight is actually a video game =D
MartialExpert 1 year ago
@MartialExpert
How deluded are you butt whipe. You didn't "own" anything. You made a comment that's all. And a poor one at that. The ONLY thing you're an expert at is talking shit!
dooyeweerd 1 year ago
@shinigami19xx Why did Steven Seagal have to say to a drunk Van Damme that he could "kick his ass" ? He should be responsible of his own words.
ravedisc 1 year ago
@shinigami19xx TBH the only reason he was able to do that in Japan was because he married the dojo master's Daughter.
ChadMaestro 1 year ago
@shinigami19xx You're talking nonsense: aikido masters wouldn't challenge each other. The whole point of the art is harmony and respect.
siasti 1 year ago
@siasti I think you are confusing martial arts with tea ceremonies.
shinigami19xx 1 year ago
@shinigami19xx Van may get carried away a death would be bad a fight with a insane man is ok as long as they know how to keep control lol.
MalusvirZechin 1 year ago
@shinigami19xx your joking right? van damme did what i or any other martial artist would do challenge him. if seagal wasn't claiming he could beat up anyone in the world and being all cocky then van damme wouldn't of challenged him and me either but if he does then even i would of dropped seagal that night if he wasn't a pussy. black belt in aikido who cares? he could be the #1 top rank hes still limited to aikido and his physical capabilities. go to hong kong theres a GRANDmaster on every block
MartialExpert 1 year ago
@MartialExpert ahahahha, ok Chuck Norris, go challenge him then.
I'm sure you were there that night and heard the whole conversation.
BTW I was in Hong Kong in August, I didn't see any Grandmasters on the street corners, a lot of realestate sales men though..
shinigami19xx 1 year ago
@shinigami19xx u expect grandmasters to chill on street corners are u 8 yrs old? ok this guys not even worth time and yes seagal would dodge my challenge like the pussy he is. OK bedbug84 you mean his bodyguard hit him out of no where when he was drunk that means hes a shit fighter? and forget 20 wins by knockout compared to seagals 0 but then again seagal did tell lebell he couldn't even get close enough to choke him where the next 6 seconds hes shitting his pants so seagal 0-1 van damme 20-2
MartialExpert 1 year ago
@MartialExpert I should point out that I am not a huge fan of either Segal or Van Damme. But if the 2 squared off, I would definitely put my money on Segal.
You seem to be taking this really personally, if you really love Van Damme why don't you marry him?
shinigami19xx 1 year ago
@shinigami19xx so i love van damme because i proved he would fuck up seagal? ooo i pissed you off of course u think he would win your on a seagal video because you like him im just trying to see if i can find any skill in him at all. im proving why hes not a fighter, facts are facts im sorry i hurt you by proving your hero would get owned by thousands of people. it should be obvious though seagal sweats from blocking fake punches on lawman while real fighters do 4+ hours a day training come on
MartialExpert 1 year ago
@MartialExpert hey, didn't van damme just have a heart attack or something? did you really ask him to marry you!?
I did mention that I am not a big fan of either, but you obviously didn't actually read my comment, just imagined what I may have written and proceeded to reply telling me how much you love van damme and you want to have his baby etc..
Like I said, I would put my money on segal in that match up. I would also put money on chuck noris over segal. Just being realistic here.
shinigami19xx 1 year ago
@shinigami19xx Isn't Van damme the little punk that got the snot beat outta him by his own bodyguard? XD
bedbug84 1 year ago
@shinigami19xx The only reason Van damme challenged him in the first place is for being disrespectful.
guitarfetish342 1 year ago
@shinigami19xx Plus the last time I remember Van Damme picking a fight it was against Hell's Angel Chuck Zeto at Studio 54 in NYC back in the early 90's and Zeto allegedly destroyed him.
buixrule 1 year ago
It's write Seagal not Segal
baggio67 2 years ago
It's written "written," not "write." ;P
Everyone makes mistakes.
thelatinguru 2 years ago
what's the name of steven seagal song ?:)
bderril 3 years ago
Paradise City by GNR
kromen10 2 years ago
schit
VIOLATOR1974r 3 years ago
ahh, iv seen him in many aikito competitions, i even have the tape of him geting his black belt..he is a true 7 dam black belt
c0rpsegr1nder13 3 years ago
hahaha
alienblues 3 years ago
seagal vs jean claude van damme
tavo220492 3 years ago
i think that Jet li will jump in there and kick all there asses then all of a sudden jackie chang comes in with lil wayne and jet li and jackie kills lil wayne then Barbra walters comes out of no where and pisses on lil wayne.
thats what will happen.
needtobelazy 3 years ago
You people ask WHY you never see Aikido used in "real life." The same reason you don't see any other MA used in real life. Cameras don't happen to be rolling when MANY things in real life happen.
Deke101 3 years ago 5
Oh, yeah...MMA is 'REAL' alright. I can't count how many times I walk around town and find myself in a WRESTLING RING with a big guy who just wants to beat me up for no apparent reason. lol.
Deke101 3 years ago
sounds like you should find another line of work
HunterBallard 3 years ago
???
Deke101 3 years ago
Does he ever actually fight anybody?
cryptsub 3 years ago
is real that ; is very good is from Smackdown vs Raw 2009 ;
Xrononaytis 3 years ago
no its from smackdown vs raw 2007
jxsidf 3 years ago
after 17 secs the crappy 'My you tube channel' crap got me bored so switched off
dys0n543r3 3 years ago
lol wut?
thesuperdingos 3 years ago
this so crappy .. just fuckin wereling ..
Moonwolf235 3 years ago
wereling?
thesuperdingos 3 years ago
yeah like wrestling but with dyslexics
eurologic 3 years ago
Great match heres
Smoofmixedfries 3 years ago
I would love, LOVE to see Segal at the PrideFC or UFC. Talk about getting ownt.
antivert 3 years ago
Aikido isn't allowed in real MMA or "MMA ufc" it was to good.
gtownbrian 3 years ago
4 real?
birodo 3 years ago
BS in MMA attackers do not run at their opponents blindly like they do in aikido demos
sleepybear38 3 years ago
Look. Think about what you said there. In an Aikdo demo. They do that to show moves. In a real fight you just end up being thrown. I have personally seen it in action being used by Aikido trained police officers in a real life combat situation. It was impressive.
gtownbrian 3 years ago 2
I meant no disrespect to Aikido.I know its useful.I just find the demos to be too much.I love the philosophy behind it.
sleepybear38 3 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
Aikido SUCKS! It's NEVER been used in MMA.
EVER-- with good reason... and that reasion is: it SUCKS!
kungfu2u2 3 years ago
so you say , I dont think that you,ve really seen what steven seagal can do with his aikido.that type of defense can be really raw you know.dont think you wanted to face him in a fight ,but if that ever happens he would take you down in no time at all,or if not he would give you a fight to remember thats for sure.before you say anymore try get some facts aboute it and watch some clips or full movies with steven seagal use it.he knows what hes talking aboute you dont thats for sure.
st1g1971 3 years ago
Steven Seagal is good but I heard that someone made him crap his pants literally. The martial arts world knows...
greddie80 3 years ago
Yeah, it was a Judo olympic champion. Seagal is famous for abusing his stuntmen and hitting them in the b*lls. Some stuntman brought the Olympic judo champion who called Seagal out to try hitting his b*lls. He put Seagal in a choke hold when Seagal tried to attack his b*lls. Seagal passed out and lost control of his bladder.
SpeedKlz 3 years ago
Proof or GTFO.
jimincairns 2 years ago
yea talk about the ufc dudes getting ownt
samstterhamstteer 3 years ago 2
*snore*
RurouniHeart 3 years ago
And it's "Default" Mr. Wollenburg!
umk23 3 years ago
sigh
biker212007 3 years ago
sigh
biker212007 3 years ago
the part where steven segal punches him at the beggining looked and "felt" soo real!!!
Bladed0edge0razor 3 years ago
half past dead.... worst segal movie ever... but still good.lol
MrBrownstone888 4 years ago 4
8====D
nicopina 4 years ago
What system is this on?
unto0thers1 4 years ago 2
Lol! OMFG! Hahaha... awsome!
perbulouse 4 years ago
LOOOL
Aur0rah 4 years ago
Great commentary you know your stuff.
SlimDeee 4 years ago
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wat crap
norbert1234444 4 years ago
\__0_/
wweman2000 4 years ago 2
wheres the royal fumble 2007 u were 89 persent out of 100 that it would be on today
ELIMINATORRRR 4 years ago
yo is the wwe like one big movie they tell the wrestlers how to act they give stort lines to go by they have scripts when they talk shit on da mic is dat true
Certifed74 4 years ago