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  • This game is soooooooooooooo cheesy....

  • lol this game was great until you get towards the end and its like you'r story that you wrote in 6th grade it abruptly changes to THE END IM DONE TALKING NOW, still cool game, of course.

  • Yes type on Google, "Vanguard free trial" and it should come up with the trial as the first link.

  • Is it worth getting into this? I've been looking for a mmo that isn't easy mode for quite some time, and from what I've heard Vanguard can deliver. However, I'm also being told that the low population makes this game very hard to get into, is this true?

  • Well many are now flocking back to Vanguard and is, in my view going to steadily increase overtime. However if you were to find yourself in a situation where it's a lonely road, then join large guilds such as Radient Heroes which have a limit of 200 members but kick members who havent been online in the past 30 days starting from the lowest levels. The game is suberb, many blame the bad start and think it will stay that way, well not if you and I kick some Hobgoblin ass :P

  • get it...i dont play mmorpgs anymore, but vanguard was the last mmorpg i played and had that feel of a reall mmorpg

  • Darkfall.

  • @shithappensguy no i don't think any games are worth getting into to be quite frank, when better games like mabinogi heroes are coming out just around the corner.

    i think once nexon makes the jump to blockparty they'll be releasing dragon nest and mabinogi heroes to the US.

    those two games alone are way more interesting to actually play, then the point and click boredom of all mmorpgs these days.

  • game had such potential , shame it couldn't deliever.

  • yeah, played it for 2 months, it was a great game with interesting new features, too bad SOE released it too early and didn't advertise.....now they are just letting it die :(

  • A ton of people have started playing this again. Play on Seradon server if you want to play with lots of people.

  • Wouldn't say many, but enough. I just started, I like it a ton more than I ever liked EQ2, was a huge eq fan

  • DO many people still play vangaurd? Im on eq2 atm, anyone?

  • and age of conan has mostly humans in the game, drunken pirates, city guards, picts (like those african tribes), few crocodiles, panthers, tigers. in vanguard near a swamp I saw some strange amphibian on every corner and an even more weirder swamp monster. age of conan looks nicer.

  • i wish my crap comp ran this

  • This game looks kind of good, but I heard population is almost non-existant, even worse than warhammer

  • there's a 14 day free trial I am doing to test it out and its DEAD. I can't compare it to warhammer because I wouldn't know but my friend and I see 1-2 people every 15 mins.

  • Whoa... Ryan V? Where's my Massively Online Gamer, man!

  • You should take a closer look at Mortal Online ... the new MMO ... beta just have started ... Mortal Online have a really nice graphic.

    Check here ...

    watch?v=Knp36YjHj2Y

    watch?v=XUxmfwAz9L0&feature=fv sr

  • Yes I still play and i know the Guild Pain very well, I actually had a Bear Shaman in pain for a short time but my main was in Damage.

    Im in a casual guild now and having a ton of fun, im on the Xeth server if you end up comming back let me know ;)

    The level cap has been raised to lvl 55 and a few more dungeons have been released including PotA (Pantheon pt 1)

  • The player base is a little low but most of the players are taking upon themselves to help recruit people as Vanguard gets a bad rap when it shouldn't...

    It's simply the best MMO out to date and it will take some serious competition to knock it down a peg or two.

    Try it and im sure you will love it as much as we do :)

  • u still play vanguard? wow, i thought everyone quitted, i sure LOVED the game and would love to play it again since i was in the guild "pain" of course u know what that is, so plz reply if ppl still play

  • Vanguard: Saga of Heroes is awesome! Best MMO I have ever played, I've been playing since beta and am still playing.

    It's a bit tough on your computer to run depending how good your computer is and ofcourse as like any MMO is has a few bugs but the Devs work really hard to fix things and most of all they listen to the players.

    I can't give any other MMO as many points as I would give Vanguard...

    Download the 14 day free trial and go for it, I promise you won't regret it :)

  • alot of ppl still play it? i might get it

  • everybody should play starwars galaxies...it's cool the bad part is that there are not too many players :(

  • That's because it sucks now. They ruined it with all the updates.

    It USED to be good, several years ago.

  • I love Star Wars Galaxies. Had a 90 medic. I don't know though, the game got old fast.

  • @FoxY1233 I think I'll just wait for TOR...

  • The game is now worth playing- as long as you dont expect it to be a cakewalk. Its challenging for a reason- but far from impossible. Its a great game.

  • bah.. not that great.. not really worth for p2p

  • i fuckin hate when ppl say something is a wow clone.. u fuckin wow cock sucking cunt. how about wow is a EQ clone? hell why not?

  • ooh I get it.. so your saying, ANY game that is good, even if its better then WoW, and EVEN if it came out BEFORE WoW is a wow clone? wow... I"ve plaid alooot of wow clones then....yep... I just love how the developers can take that shitty WoW game and turn it into something GOOD.. tsk tsk tsk.. Wow.... who knew the world was just one big WoW clone?

    fucking moron....

  • what would you rate this game?

  • That Gay, Guy is a real geek!

  • like wtf do u do

  • this looks very weird n i dnt c the point in playin it

  • This game is amazing! One of the best MMORPG's I have played. It is a shame it was released too early. I didn't play it at launch but I played it fairly recently and I loooved it.

  • you played it recently? but dont play it anymore? cant be that amazing! then can it...

  • Well sadly I just can't make time for any MMORPG's anymore. I didn't leave it because of the game itself but because of my personal life! So yes, it can be that amazing!

  • is it a pay to play

  • Yes

  • O I forgot to mentioned that I liked was Diplomacy and gear for your proffesions not just axes and whatnot fullsets. The trees fell when you chopped them lol . I really wanted this game to be good:(

  • I played this a while back it still has some of the best still graphics i've ever seen I played it around the time it came out for about a month there was this Elven tree city that blew me away and the water effect is amazing also the world is huge( I actually liked that hated the psuedo teleporters!) but you needed a really beast computer to play it and Death Penalty(and Corpse Runs) + No ability to solo quests + a low Pop = Bad they had amazing ideas tho it was too far ahead of it's time

  • I play WoW, and I'm currently DLing Vanguard. I've seen my friend play this game, and he agrees that 99% of the huge bugs are gone. I still plan on playing WoW, it's a good MMO, but I want to try somkething different. They are both totally different games. Neither is better than the other. It comes down to preference. Arguing about which one is better on a youtube comment solves nothing, and isn't going to convince people to play your MMO of choice. Why post a comment when you could be playing?

  • Wow is easy mode now and Vanguard is a pretty shit game with lots of bugs. I wish i was playing warhammer at the moment but im not playing any mmos till about september. Also Star wars old republic game coming out seems pretty awsome. Maybe cause im just a big kotor fan.

  • WoW appeals to casual gamers? Most of people who played WoW for the 4 years i played lived in the game 24/7.

  • Played all the free MMOs and they are all mediocre at best and the Asian ones like perfect world are just boring as hell to me. Best free MMO i have played so far is Runes Of Magic but its still below the level of pay to play games.

  • well Runes of Magic doesn't have much classes to play on, they don't have much in it at all its all easy basic, its like wow and Guild wars combine but only fewer classes I played it and its not that entertaining at all

  • Perfect world is supposed to be good. check it out

  • Hi, I just got this game recently and I'm trying to pick a class. I love tanking and I'm trying to decide between a warrior and a paladin. I like RPing as a Paladin but I want to know wether the warrior is a better tank than a paladin. If anyone could tell me I'd appreciate it!

  • hope this helps. A warrior is going to be better for Raid tanking by far and has some better group buffs going on. However a paladin can keep themselves alive, hold some serious aggro, and are very good tanks. IIRC A warrior will be much better for AE/AOE aggro than a Paladin will be; and a DK will be better than both.

  • I bought the game a week after it was released and it was real buggy and decided to stop playing until they fixed. I enjoyed EQ heavily, would this catch my interest again? wondering if i should start up my account again...

  • Yes you should. I started EQ1 right before Velious, and IMO: this is what EQ2 was trying to be, and what EQ2 should have been. Not all the instanced bullshit like EQ2 turned out to be.

    The classes are extremely balanced, each is VERY unique and fun to play, and holy god.... the cotent is so in-depth. You could literally spend hours in a dungeon just trying to discover the layout, check out the detail, find a good run.

    It got released way too early, and that's all. It's a great game.

  • i believe tauren have more of a Nez'perce culture than Navajo

  • they arent wolves so why shouldnt they have human legs?

  • the fact the WoW players are considered casual scares me. to be called 'hardcore' do you have to choose between food and sleep?

  • Neither, food is for the weak, sleep is for the lazy =P

  • i guess its for casual MMO players, i know first time MMO players always play WoW cause its the most popular and call it the best MMO ever created, thus being casual player who doesnt know what they are talking about.

  • i've tried a lot of MMO's. Wow is the best, period. In my opinion. Now i'm looking forward to alganon.

  • ya, especially for a game that no1 gives a damn aboot

  • this game is ok but im a true die hard eq 1 fan i still paly eq 1 and have for many years, wow is to childesh for me and eq 2 sucks big balls, but vanguard is cool... thats just my opinion

  • i play world of warcraft and im down loading the trile right now but vanguard looks 10 times better then world of warcraft i like thet you can have a mount or flying epic mount i like playing the tauren so mabye i might start a wolf or a orc

  • LOL are you on crack ? id prefer wow over this anytime to be honest, vanguard lacks style big time

  • CCCCCCCCCCAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSSSSU­UUUUUUAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLL

    Never played original EQ did you??

  • Hmm sirtronico I'm so happy 4 u that you play wow people like u is the last thing we want in vanguard ... 4 the rest of the people download the trial and you will se how good this game is ...

  • the game is pretty cool.. i dont like WoW, but i do think LOTRO is better.

  • From what I heard, Vanguard only has 40,000 or less subscribers. That's extremely low for any MMO.

    Also I find most of these comments ironic in so many ways. You EQ Pre-Lucin/Vanguard fans

    talk about how WoW fans are childish, yet all of you use the exact same "Your game is stupid, mine is better" routine.

    I remember playing V:SoH on closed beta, and i even remember buying the Collectors Edition (what a waste of $100).

  • and the level of subscribers determines if a game is good or not? yea, by the general consensus. then again, i have had WoW players try to tell me WoW has better graphics than Vanguard, and since more people agreed, i was incorrect... and that is simply a joke. look at the system requirements and you know it is...

    the majority of people saying one thing doesn't remotely make it true.

  • So having more of those shiny graphical gimmicks in a game makes it better?

    I don't play games just to look at them. I play them to have fun. I don't waste huge amounts of money on a PC every year just to see the new graphical gimmick of the year.

    Dynamic Clouds? Gee, nice to look at. But, does it effect gameplay? Should i care? Or is it just eyecandy?

  • The trial is actually out now and downloadable, even though there's no actual info about it on any of their homepages (Sony, Sigil etc), strangely I had to find out by reading about it in a forum.

    Anyhow, all you have to do is create a free station account or log in with an old/existing one and you can download and play the 14-day free trial of Vanguard now!

    I just did and was blown away, saw an NPC cut down a tree, now that's an interactive world, cool!

  • Best mmo along with eq2 if you into pve.

  • This game has come along way. New player models and Isle of Dawn (trial island) will be out soon. Only MMO out that you cant powerlevel to max level in a week or so.

  • do you know a date for the trial isle? my bro plays vanguard and i'm getting pretty bored of wow.

  • Lineage 2

  • is This game good?

  • well i havent played this game in like a yer last year i played there was like 50 people on per server don know now dont wanna waste money to play alone lol

  • When AoC bombed the population for vanguard skyrocketed.

  • The population is 40,000. How is that "skyrocketed"?

  • I never said anything skyrocketed

  • "When AoC bombed the population for vanguard skyrocketed."

    >Vanguard Skyrocketed

    Yes you did.

  • i tried this but i only had a labtop so all it did was lag to the point u couldnt even play so i had to go to WoW but this looks so much better damn sucky ass labtop!

  • game looks amazing but i prefer game play over graphics.

  • Lol. This game is pretty good, the pros of the game heavily outweigh the cons.

  • So, i totally bought this and Titan Quest.

    But i need a sound card /: stupid me.

  • i played it, then i left because if your not max level by now, then you have no groups and you have to solo up to lvl50 unless you get lucky

  • do you have to pay monthly?

  • Every review I've seen for Vanguard talks about the launch fiasco and doesn't focus on gameplay. This review was very helpful. Host is rather funny, despite having a face for radio :) j/k

  • I really liked this when I played it, It was really magical. but like all mmorpgs you have to play for like 10 hours to levelup, so I quit.

    But its an amazing game, one of the best ever.

  • Meh, it's not a bad game, but out of the MMOs I've played so far it's the most boring one.

    The main problem with Vanguard is that it is not original, which you begin to notice rather quickly. It seems that it can't choose whether it wants to be WoW or Everquest or Dark Age of Camelot.

    Overall, a medicore MMORPG. It could have been an amazing game, if it was released somewhere in 2006, but now with AoC out and WAR at the doorstep, it remains as tragic reminder of what bad management can do.

  • I played this game in beta and i tell you i was never more pleased with a game at the time(bout 3 weeks til launch is when i hit the pleasure zone). Thne they started fiddling. Leveling became faster. . .which isn't *bad* per se but it made it actually more boring.

    When you can stand in front of a "dungeon" and kill the respawns to gain levels faster than killing what is inside it, that is bad.

    Then they started changing classes.

  • In beta you had a healer class that could outdps any dps class and still heal on even ground with the other healers. . .at the same time.

    You had 3 tank classes that only one of them was necessary (SK was the most broken class next to monks). Rangers were pretty pimp dps. . .until they hit level ten and got so gear dependent you had to waste ten times the money of anyone else

  • I used to play this game, think it was about a year ago. There were alot of problems with this game. The lag was incredible. Its a shame cuz i kinda liked the game. If this game has gotten better from the last time ive played then i wouldnt mind dling it again.

  • It has gotten so much better since launch. Its AMAZING. You know that MMO You've wanted to always play yet it hasn't ever been released? Consider it released. There are some bugs that need to be fixed, but they are updating character models and a free trial in the summer. Definitely worth it.

  • Is this game good or a piece of shit ?

  • I'm debating if I want to give VSOH another chance.. that or I'm looking for some survey or such that can help me find an MMO that fits my liking.

  • SOE are shit, they cant do anything right.

  • i played beta for this. it was LAG city. have they fixed the lag issues? if so i might try this again.

  • They have fixed a lot of issues. I still get lag issues in main crafting towns where theres a lot of people so theres a lot of drawing to be done but usually I turn my toon about 4 times in a circle and /flushall and that seems to fix it. My husbands computer is way better than mine and he doesn't get that hitching/lag anymore. U don't get booted off game every 20 minutes anymore lol it's a great game :) way better than WoW..BUT u do need a better graphics card for VG than u do for WoW

  • i totally agree..VG is sooo diffrent then when it first launched...they fixed alot of the main bugs..its still got some work that needs to be done..but its pretty solid.

  • but this game is "pay to play"???

  • vanguard's a cool game, i played it for a while... i didn't like it as much as wow though

  • I used to play Vanguard and I have to say I actually enjoyed it, I'll get back into it as soon as I get a new computer since my old was got stolen out of my fucking house.

  • k ive been playin vanguard for about 3 months now im sick off ppl comparing this game with wow its way better u can solo to max lvl takes a lil longer as well as in every other mmo but vg is the best mmo that ever was created they have been deleted all the the bugs created new spells quests animations everything dont listen to those noobs mmo's freaks go to vg its the future aoc cant beat it nothin cant beat it so far

  • Starting playing eq2 AGAIN... WoW doesn't hold me like eq2 did, maybe I am gonna try Vanguard this year are you european?:P

    Plz PM me back instead of reply :)

  • Whaha,u must be the funniest guy ive ever met, there are no better MMO's (unless original ones) than WoW, the 10 million players prove it, I wonder how many people play vanguard, 10000? Anyways, this game sucks, its ugly, and the gameplay is crap, and the fact that you can solo level to lvl 70 ist worth shit, because every mmo should be able to do that, (as is WoW), go play WoW ya nub, b4 u start calling this piece of horsesh*t better than WoW, Whaha, ur really funny, im still laughing.

  • 10 million subscriptions proves nothing other than people know how to buy things. WoW is far over-rated and a timesink. But this is all wasted on you since you are a Blizztard fanboi.

  • WoW's the highest rated MMO acheiving 95% on PcGamer and for good reason. Just because you think it's overrated don't think everyone else does.

  • I play Wow....well sort of i've kinda gotten bored of it over passed month, waiting for expansion. But i can say that you CANT say that its the best mmo out there...its easy thats why there are so many people playing. I played EQOA ...yes i said it EQOA for almost 4 years, b4 i switched to wow due to no expansion. I've played wow for just bout 2 years and already am growing tired of it. I was thinkin of tryin VG but heard about alot of bugs...hows it working now?

  • not. wow takes gear, no skill :)

  • Bull... lal, if u say that then ur noob;), Arena 2k+ rating everyone has full vengeful, and u have to be skilled to get higher!

  • dude pvping noobs take no skill

  • haha, pvp is the only THING that requires skill, pve=cmon lets just spam my dmg ability! its so fucking easyyyyy, and pvp u have to pay attention to ur enemies and adapt, now, because ur noob, u dont know what im talking about

  • No, you need to have luck to get higher. Gear > Luck > Internet > Skill

  • you are my god

  • i perfer pve over pvp but i dont play WoW anymore pve was fun because of raids :P and yes i do have a life

  • blahh damnn eqoa was best game ever.. that game was basicly full of secrets and allways something new to discover.

  • I wish I could find a Game that was as fun as EQOA to play. Played wow for a while but got bored quickly. Wish sony would make a eqoa 2 or come out with a new exspansion for eqoa.

  • yes omg im playing eqoa right now...

    ive played eq2.. 2moons... LOTRO.. and tons more and nothing amounts to the fun on eqoa.. just the unique set up you have and the endless world. I enjoy that every person is completely unique.

    i agree on the new expansion

  • if i remember correctly the only reason people didn't switch to vanguard is cause the graphics requirements was too high for them... WoW cartoon like appearance make the game flow easly... now if they really did delete all the glitches and you finally updated your graphics card and ram.. simply looking at the games sky would make you drool... actual clouds that look better than the ones we get in real life.(darn polution) many seem to compare Wow with vanguard but with better graphics.. up to u

  • they have deleted the bugs ? humm, maybe I should give it another try, I liked the look and classes, but all the buggs really ruined it..

  • Unfortunately, the game is almost completely centered around group combat/questing. Which coming from a history of playing EQ and EQ2 does not bother me except that the servers are so barren you cant get a group. I hope that this game can recover from its crappy start and live up to its potential.

  • Very true.

    I think that the only way V:SOH will be able to recover from its poor launch is if S.O.E starts spamming all major game sites with free trials like CCP did with EVE.

  • Except that EVE isn't infamous for being incredibly buggy, not really the same thing...

  • I'm downloading Vanguard in this moment and i can say that only wandering ten minutes through the official forums you can taste a smarter community, compared to the WoW retarded community as you can see in the posts below also.

  • hahaha, so true the last parts you said ;).

  • wow this is exactly like WoW in every way

    except a little more bad ass

  • WoW sucks balls Everquest was first and in my opinion way better and i just got Vanguard better than Everquest lol except the 2 day download

  • wow dont suck balls lawl, im nota huge fan of it but it's the best game out there. Everquest was good in it's time but now it just lack's everything. Everquest 2 is too demanding game and really is boooooooring.

  • man i wanna play this game but tell me wat kind of umputer should i get cuz i realy like this game...someone plz send me a message n help me out plz

  • I played Vanguard like 10 months ago ,its pretty cool buth it doesn't give me a online feeling like in WoW ( Enter Ironforge and there are alot of players playing) and that's missing in Vanguard ,buth it could be changed because i played 10 monhts ago

  • Haha :) bad copy of WoW ?!?!! did you saw the video ? Everquest is a lot of older than WoW and i prefer to say WoW is a really bad copy of EQ1 :P

    There is curr. no test-version avail. :/

    Im playing since beta (about 13 month) and its great!

  • Is there a free trial of this game?

  • no i wish though because it looks better then World of Warcraft.

  • its way better than WoW

  • Thats a lie. It sucked on and off till about May then got awesome. ATM I only have a level 46 DK but it's ten times better than wow. Except for the asses that don't know how to play. Alot of people can't understand how agro works. It's finally gotten to where you can solo descently. It can be tough with certain classes, but the entire game takes using your brain quiet abit and comming up with new strategies.

  • Kinda like how WoW is a cheap bad copy of EverQuest, huh?

    Gee, I wonder who MADE EverQuest.

  • you know WoW is just a cheep copy of other games, WoW wasn't the first MMO or the best

  • Why do you think your opinion matters over everyone elses? You sound as though this is a fact but it's not so your words mean squat.

  • i played vanguard from beta 5 to about 2 months after release. i leveled up a 50 warrior, somehow. there was a total lack of content past level 30 at launch, and when i hit 40 i had to wait at least a week before anything worth killing was around. the game ran at around 10 fps on a good day, badly coded npcs, invisible things, falling through world, wrongly marked npcs, long lags when crossing server boundaries. necros were better than everybody. it was a paid beta, so i quit.

  • Actually it is NOT yet dead...it is quite alive and gaining speed. I suggest before trowing the game away, we wait a bit more. Everquest 2 was labeled dead and currently servers are running full load (WoW style so to say). Not saying much, but game is 100 times better then at launch. I still can't believe how better it is...

  • He's not lying, as of the patch on March 12th 2008 the game has finally reached what I would consider a polished release level.

    Bash SOE all you want, but in this case they have saved what could have been another wasted effort. Sigil was BROKE, they HAD to release. My wish now is for player base to CONTINUE to grow so more devs are allocated for new content, which they are continually rolling out. More world raids and entire raid areas added... APW anyone?

  • Speaking of which, I probably should have sold my account while it was still early release. Could have made some good money considering I had a souped up lvl 39 rogue through monopolizing the auction system.

  • Vanguard fucking sucks. I quit it because of all the major bugs it had. They probably still haven't fixed them. I was planning on playing Vanguard again after they fixed the bugs, but come to find out Sony hijacked the game from Brad. Brad is the guy that came up with the idea of Vanguard, which he is also the original person who came up with the original EverQuest.

    Fuck Sony. Every single game idea they hijack, they end up shafting the individual that came up with the idea and ruin the game.

  • You know, the developers stated that it'd be another six months before everything was properly worked out. I'd gone through most of the beta testing for it and really, in comparison to WoW and guild wars, it was amazing.... pity it's almost dead these days, such great potential buggered due to release dates. I don't think that sony has learned it's lesson, when the developers say SIX MORE MONTHS they mean it.

  • vangurd 99% bug free

  • all the fanboy stuff aside, SOE did give me a free month of EQ2 due to the amount of bugs in this game. I got a little card in the mail that said something like "...do to user feedback for Vanguard.. Please enjoy a free month so we can respond to requests" I do play EQ and EQ2 so I picked this up. Due to all the bugs and issues I did not make it through the first month.

  • Not having the chance to test the game (trial) is a really big minus at least for me....i wouldn't start a game (buying game +game card costs so much)without being sure that i like it.

  • must i pay monthly for this game?????

  • yes u must

  • How much does starters+monthly fee cost?

  • to get the game is £20 ($40) ...there are still no expansions :) ....and its £9.50 a month.... (£15) :)

  • lol

  • This game has ironed out 99% of the bugs and is great! A lot of people left because of that, but Sony is reactivating all accounts from the past from the 18th to the 3rd of January for people to test it out again since there has been so much improvement.

  • is it worh playing again then...i played it wen it came out...only had lvl 20 blood mage

  • i like furries (YES I AM SORRY!!!) but this guy is absolutely right...no real animal anatomy....just a sad person in a custom...NO ONE LIKES THAT! but Vanguard still is doing great with the extra polishing over the last few months.

  • age of conan ftw

  • Sorry to say but WoW came out after everquest. Seeing how the main person that designed Vanguard was the leader designed of everquest so yes he is going to bring in a common UI. Also before Wow was even out a lot of people were designing there own UIs. What it comes down to is what UI most people formilar with or people liked over the years of MMOs. Even when WoW came out I still stayed played everquest I for about 2 years and then switch over to Lineage 2.

  • FLYING MOUNTS IN THIS GAME SUX SORRY

  • What about wow's flying outland mounts? does Wow "sux"?

  • yea they look like kiddy rides u spineless freak

  • Learn to spell, turd.

  • this game as betetr graphics than wow , but its preaty huge and as bugs , i think they should have waited a while b4 releasing the game

  • wow is old...and retarded...

    its time 4 new game:)...like these:P

    all wowers..bow to the new mmo

  • I hope your kidding.

    Vanguard is a mess of a game, the graphics are messy, the world is static, the gameplay is simply not fun, the quests are tedious and the grind is worse then wow could ever be.

    Whats funny is most people tryed vanguard - and most hated it.

    Age of conan and Warhammer online will be the contenders - only of which Age of conan will do anything new.

  • lol.... if you're dissing wow look at the interface of this game, its interface/health bars/casting bars are an exact copy of wow plus this game skips, and the animations aren't nearly as good as in WoW at least they tested their animations, oh and by my watch, people are still playing WoW

  • i say give it time. If people can enjoy something like runescape they can certainly enjoy this.Besides WoW's not exactly bug-free.

  • Would u stfu and quit gay wow, its finished thats it...The exp pack killed it. WoW is filled with stupid kids.

  • lol, u act like a 10 year old... no offense

  • why are there still so man who try to deny that WoW is the best MMO out there? i played WoW for a while, i dont rly enjoy it simply becuase its not my kind of game but i would still call it a good game, and untill age of conan comes out, the best mmo that exists