I'm writing a research paper/speech over family detention centers. I read some of the comments posted about how these kinds of facilities do not seem to be that bad. I do not want to start a debate over youtbe comments but I would just like to say that this footage released was by ICE, of course the images are going to make the living sitation look like something it is not. Also, please please do your research (of both sides) before deciding where you stand on an issue.
I was in this place is not so bad but the food sometimes is ugly but I met a beautiful person I have no communication with him, he is Honduran God bless me
all u people that think this is a nice place to live ur maniacs cause i lived there for 2 moths and believe me is not nice u can go outside once a day for 15 minutes the food tastes like shit and many people go crazy in there all of u that think this a nice place i would love to see u there and struggle to survive
This looks remarkably like a mission facility in Houston used to house families that are temporarily "displaced" aka homeless until they can get on their feet. Nothing "prison campy" about it. Besides, you come into this country ILLEGALLY and expect to be treated like royalty? Give me a break!
This isn't inhuman at all. The families are together, they are fed, clothed, and housed. We need more places like this, and this should have started years ago.
Why are you people saying this is inhumane. These people are extremely lucky to be placed into a facility like this. This is nowhere near what a concentration camp is. They are with their families and are fed. The children are educated. They are illegal aliens, you can't give them the world. The only sad thing is that I go to school where this facility is and from what I see they have greater technology for education than we do, and we are legal citizens.
i think you actually need to live there, like i did i "lived" there for 4 months and believe it is not cool but i still think your right i remeber people saying food was nasty and always complaining but i think their alot more better than their own country... all this people mostly come from poor countrys ... and they barely have something to eat i think your right but still its not such a good place where you can live ... but i had alot of though ... i did my life like in a normal place .
This saddens me. The one part that really tore into my heart was the kids; what a bleak and grim way of life. I have only utter humility that I did not konw of this place sooner. I apologize to anyone watching this. This is not me, nor the country I thought I lived in.
cant you see this is NOT a bad place? it could be worse! the familes could be seperated. My dad works there and nobody complains in there. only the people who have never set foot in there once!
So who the hell you blaming Tyson or the Mexican people?? I think Tyson could give a rats ass about there workers, hate to break it to you smart one it's all about the money!
I blame both. Regarding the Mexicans, they should be back in Mexico helping the EZLN with their revolution. Instead they take the easy way out and come to the USA. I feel bad for the EZLN, at least they are actually trying to tackle this problem, IN MEXICO.
They are deported within 32 - 52 days. Thye are protected from the illegal aliens killing ! Child molestation is very huge among the illegal alien groups coming in just ask DEFAX! Reasearch it for yourself. Gainsville Ga child molestation HUGE among the illegal aliens! Yes true! The truth hurts ?Ask the newest dead American family in Cobb county Ga.If prison should be shut down? They are now dead! RIP 07/16/08 Illegal alien male drove a van wrong way hit car dumped wife .Killed himself also!
Thank you Sue! In ony three days we have lost a father and son in Cobb Ga. hit by a van illegal was driving with a history of hit and runs just before his first hit and run of the day and dumping his wife off at the side of the roasd to keep her from being taken in by ICE or something and fleeing the scene. county ,illegal killed himself in front a a tractor trailor truck in Stockbridge Ga. the day before yesterday /drunk! These socialist fools!
Sue, have you and this fool atlantaminuteman ever read The Monster from Jekyll Island? You guys are not that stupid, you are just letting your hate get in the way, and you are helping yourselves get screwed over in the process. Read the book, I can't waste much more time here with you two. Try to understand the federal reserve system, both of you, because you both have a lot to offer if you can just look at who the federal reserve really is and see the real problem.
David Rockefellor . Its still true thatthe illegal alien lobby is under controle by communist and seperatist ,racist,anarchist and aztlan,nationalist with no loyaly to the people of the USA.
I knew you weren't stupid. My name is Becky, sorry for the name calling, nice to meet you. So you understand where your income tax money goes? I know you can see the bigger picture if you would but think it out clearly and see WHY this undocumented labor is being ENCOURAGED. I would like to speak with you calmly about this and see what we can learn from each other. Thank you for your comment back sir, I look forward to our discussion.
The illegal aliens really do have a goal in mind. They do understand what they are doing . Even though they are being used . They do not see it that way. They feel empowered .They tell me that thsi is not my country in Cahmblee Ga. The rich Latinos also shouted when I protested GALEO of Georgia. check them out on the web...
I understand what you are saying and how you feel, but both sides are being played here, as pawns. You know that yourself. The trick is to do what you and I are doing, which is to find a common place to start discussion. I will check out your video you sent me today and I will send you one.
We have been taking to the commisioners meetimgs and will satrt going around to every meeting and take our 5 minutes to talk about the NAU and open borders
Well there you go. I have enjoyed our uneasy alliance of opposition, but we have commented through this thread so much I can't find what's what any more. Have you ever read Behold a Pale Horse? I think you would like it. Feel free to comment me on my site or message as you have and thanks for being open minded. We don't agree on this issue, but at least we are willing to do more than complain. We may even meet on opposite sides of a protest some day, until then, safe journeys and better days.
You dumb fuck, you can't even speak english and it's your language. Do you know what this prison is costing YOU? Have you considered the fact that FREE labor fucks up the pay scale more than CHEAP labor? Any thoughts on enforcing the laws that prevent hiring undocumented labor? You are helping the ones hurting you and you don't even know it.
They are deported within less than 5 weeks! The people in the facility have all been convicted of a crime and are deported. Maybe all of you open border fools should look into how Mexico controles its illegal alien population ! All of you pro illegal alien open borders socialist/communists should be exiled out of here and sent walking across the southern border of the USA !
God you are just not all there, I was talking to you jackass. Your first comment was more to the point. Look up some stats on CCA. They have NOT been convicted of anything, they have NOT even been charged with any crime. Jesus fucking christ I'll try to explain it to you. Undocumented workers are lured up here by the builderberg minions to divide and conquer, to be put in forced labor camps, which is what hutto is, and thereby also make fat profit to said builderbergs.
i guess some would prefer the children be toted away to some form of foster care system with some "alien" family that they do not know while their parents are being detained awaiting their deportation...??? instead of having the children with their parents...3 meals a day, free medical care, cable tv, playground out back,playstation 2 games, field trips ..oh yes i said field trips! this is all a big propaganda stunt..aimed at destroying and not enforcing our immigration laws
Lots of people from here get the same free stuff they do, it's only a bad thing if you aren't the recipient isn't it?
Try living the life they did in their country and see if you have the stamina.
That goes for anyone who is oppressed in any country, put yourself in their shoes for even a day and see where they are coming from. It wasn't too long ago when your grandparents were the recipients of the same oppression. Never forget from where you came.
The people in the prison are convicted criminals you fool !I just talked to a custome today without a leg. My subject was 287(g) program that deports criminals aliens! She then told me how she lost her leg. A black AMerican lost het entire leg to illegal alien with a license and inurance and all he had to do was pay $10,000 bond and got off FREE and not deported ! We need more temp jails before deportation! Catch and release is against Americans . LAWLESS
I protested at another prison in defense of it. It is located in Lumpkin. There was an open borders group there and we headed them off as they came up to it on a march. They give a free flight back to country of origin aftyer 5 weeks. During the 5 weeks the illegal alien tries to gain amnesty or visa. They have all been tried and convicted of big crimes. Thats in Georgia.Its on video here on you tube.I understand everything you are saying. I already know all of this.I am at work selling stuff.
The people are getting better care than 1/4 of all Americans!19500 American die from lack of health care every year while the illegal alien get free and that yummy free food and school !
Thank you for letting us know you are an idiot before you comment, thank you Docubloggers for the post, and thank you inknowrebekah for making an intelligent comment.
Illegal aliens are responsable for child sex crimes and rape at a 35% higher rate the US citizens.On average 25 people are murdered every day by illegal aliens.Mostly from South and central . crossing over twice is a felony after first time deportation and I ask all people to demand the 287 g program now. 10,000 illegal aliens have been processed through the Gwinnett county jail since 2006. Of those criminal aliens only 300 got deported. Now the 287 g begins soon and will deport 1000s!I helped:)
Thank you for letting us know that you are an idiot before you comment theracismmuseum. Thank you also for letting all of us know that you have no idea ablout the law,constitution,borders and that you an anti American !
The private prisons only house what the government gives them. So what is the difference between government and private camps? Even in government run facilities, a profit is made somewhere.
OBVIOUS PROPAGANDA VIDEO. If you are here LEGALLY then the raids DO NOT affect you. Start enforcing the established laws against "illegal immigration." DEPORT the illegals and the families.
Well, it's not exactly propaganda. The footage was provided by the organization running the facility, so it is their sanctioned, santized look at life in the prison. Interesting how it still comes off looking so bad that it could be viewed as propaganda for the other side...
i would love it if you would post this as a vid response to my new piece on T. Don Hutto from the action there yesterday! Thanks! I'll try to get alot of views!
I hope you don't really expect anyone to accept the connection you've drawn between nonviolent border crossers and bank robbers. You are missing the bigger picture.
The real problem with Hutto is very clear. Mothers, pregnant women and children that have immigrated to America seeking a meek existence will sleep in a prison bed tonight.
That is wrong.
That jailing toddlers and imprisoning innocent children is wrong is an inescapable moral truth.
But stealing from others to gain a better life is not only unlawful, it is un-American! Illegal aliens are really no better than citizens who rob banks, except for this: Illegals have no legal, spiritual or logical basis for being in the US.
People who illegally cross our borders are outlaws, regardless of their purpose for invading. An apt analogy may help you understand: Bank robbers (those engaged in undocumented withdrawals, if you prefer) commit their crimes only in pursuit of a better life.
I hope you don't really expect anyone to accept the connection you've drawn between nonviolent border crossers and bank robbers. You are missing the bigger picture.
The real problem with Hutto is very clear. Mothers, pregnant women and children that have immigrated to America seeking a meek existence will sleep in a prison bed tonight.
That is wrong.
That jailing toddlers and imprisoning innocent children is wrong is an inescapable moral truth.
Illegal is illegal weather its walking across the border in bunny slippers internet investment fraud.
Imprisoning children / detaining a family? Hmmm, interesting how you word it. You're obviously ignorant about the ICE Service Processing Centers and immigrants in removal proceedings or awaiting removal. And you think Hutto is bad. Where have you been?
It used to be illegal for African Americans to use public restrooms in Texas, but segregation was never right. I am a researcher for a nonprofit organization that works on immigrant detention and private prison issues. Hutto is an egregious resultant of the conflict between public enterprise and the goals of the criminal justice system. CCA is profiting from the imprisonment of families. Those are the reasons that will bring hundreds of protesters to the facility until it closes.
The right thing to do is to shut the facility, along with the other facilities, down and stop sending mothers and children to jail. In case you were wondering-- I'm currently investigating several private prisons, including the 2000-bed tent erected in Raymondville in 45 days to detain immigrants.
It makes sense that most private prison work would be centered on CCA-- the largest for-profit prison company in the world.
In Southern Texas, the rate of immigrant detention exploded between 2003 and 2004, and it has been rising faster than any other part of the nation-- including Southern Arizona and California. Previously immigrants and political asylum seekers were just deported, but now they're being unnecessarily and expensively detained by private prison corporations like CCA, Geo Group Cornell Corrections, Emerald, and Civigenics.
Well good luck on your putting tax paying Americans out of work so your illegal immigrants can impose billions in cost on all of us just so send money out of the country.
Actually, because the rate of immigrant detention has exploded (between 2003 and 2004, in Texas South, it jumped by 4000%!-- forty times the national average and wildly disproportionate to any other southern district), the cost of putting immigrants behind bars has increased too. Our tax dollars are going to the private prison companies! Keeping Hutto open ensures that our Tax dollars benefit CCA's shareholders while families are unnecessarily kept behind bars.
Yeah...... and that increase wouldn't be because people are fed up with illegals huh? Well, I'm proud of south Texas. Almost as good as AZ.... Lock 'em up!
The increase in detention is due in part to lobbying by groups like CCA. You're shortsighted, and at least little stupid. This isn't about politics or policy. The movement against Hutto is about human decency. Children and families do not belong in prison.
I wasn't kidding! :) I don't understand why anyone blindly and recklessly promotes bankrupt economic and social policies unless he gets something out of it. There's a massive conflict of interest between the goals of private enterprise and those of our criminal justice system. Private prison companies like CCA, Geo Group and Cornell should be shut down.
Nono! Capitalism is good. Private prisons are bad. I'm sorry if I confused you. When companies profit from detaining little kids like CCA is at Hutto, capitalism has gone way wrong. Is that better?
I'll try to dumb it down for you. When one person makes a profit by imprisoning another person, problems are likely to arise. One of those problems is the detention of children. There are children inside of a private detention center in Taylor, Texas. That is a problem.
When we compromise that value and obscure the truth with debate about criminality, we compromise the safety of every child—not just those in T. Don Hutto. The difficult questions we must consider when we talk about Hutto are not political in nature, and they have nothing to do with national security, national law or economics.
Strengthen our borders. Enforce the laws on the books. Restore respect for the rule of law. Agree that the fight isn't over immigration, but ILLEGAL immigration. And, most important, agree that Americans HAVE a right to define and defend what it means to be an American!
Your comments are more than a little irrational and ignorant. Objections to T. Don Hutto center around basic human rights. Innocent-- yes, innocent-- children and refugee families are at Hutto now, and CCA is profiting from their detention.
Just send them home when we were in the real estate bubble we welcomed them now with the economy we don't want them. This unamerican/
22knowa 3 months ago
I'm writing a research paper/speech over family detention centers. I read some of the comments posted about how these kinds of facilities do not seem to be that bad. I do not want to start a debate over youtbe comments but I would just like to say that this footage released was by ICE, of course the images are going to make the living sitation look like something it is not. Also, please please do your research (of both sides) before deciding where you stand on an issue.
kyc0709 9 months ago
I was in this place is not so bad but the food sometimes is ugly but I met a beautiful person I have no communication with him, he is Honduran God bless me
josselinedeguatemala 1 year ago
all u people that think this is a nice place to live ur maniacs cause i lived there for 2 moths and believe me is not nice u can go outside once a day for 15 minutes the food tastes like shit and many people go crazy in there all of u that think this a nice place i would love to see u there and struggle to survive
Y8L2 1 year ago
This looks remarkably like a mission facility in Houston used to house families that are temporarily "displaced" aka homeless until they can get on their feet. Nothing "prison campy" about it. Besides, you come into this country ILLEGALLY and expect to be treated like royalty? Give me a break!
lwarteman 1 year ago
This isn't inhuman at all. The families are together, they are fed, clothed, and housed. We need more places like this, and this should have started years ago.
b0219u 2 years ago
Why are you people saying this is inhumane. These people are extremely lucky to be placed into a facility like this. This is nowhere near what a concentration camp is. They are with their families and are fed. The children are educated. They are illegal aliens, you can't give them the world. The only sad thing is that I go to school where this facility is and from what I see they have greater technology for education than we do, and we are legal citizens.
longhornz0027 3 years ago
I go to school in the town this facility is in.
longhornz0027 3 years ago
i think you actually need to live there, like i did i "lived" there for 4 months and believe it is not cool but i still think your right i remeber people saying food was nasty and always complaining but i think their alot more better than their own country... all this people mostly come from poor countrys ... and they barely have something to eat i think your right but still its not such a good place where you can live ... but i had alot of though ... i did my life like in a normal place .
laapanderah 3 years ago
This saddens me. The one part that really tore into my heart was the kids; what a bleak and grim way of life. I have only utter humility that I did not konw of this place sooner. I apologize to anyone watching this. This is not me, nor the country I thought I lived in.
tw1156 3 years ago 6
cant you see this is NOT a bad place? it could be worse! the familes could be seperated. My dad works there and nobody complains in there. only the people who have never set foot in there once!
daphnelovesu 3 years ago
So who the hell you blaming Tyson or the Mexican people?? I think Tyson could give a rats ass about there workers, hate to break it to you smart one it's all about the money!
MEXICAANAHUAC 3 years ago
I blame both. Regarding the Mexicans, they should be back in Mexico helping the EZLN with their revolution. Instead they take the easy way out and come to the USA. I feel bad for the EZLN, at least they are actually trying to tackle this problem, IN MEXICO.
jimj122680 3 years ago
Thanks for posting this.
I'm sure you've read the New Yorker article referencing your clip.
This is a horrible place for children to grow up in. Humans regardless of their nationalities deserve better than this.
iknowrebekah 3 years ago
They are deported within 32 - 52 days. Thye are protected from the illegal aliens killing ! Child molestation is very huge among the illegal alien groups coming in just ask DEFAX! Reasearch it for yourself. Gainsville Ga child molestation HUGE among the illegal aliens! Yes true! The truth hurts ?Ask the newest dead American family in Cobb county Ga.If prison should be shut down? They are now dead! RIP 07/16/08 Illegal alien male drove a van wrong way hit car dumped wife .Killed himself also!
Atlantaminuteman 3 years ago
These traitors do not care about American citizens being raped and murdered, by these illegal foreign invaders. They are traitors.
PatriotSue 3 years ago
Thank you Sue! In ony three days we have lost a father and son in Cobb Ga. hit by a van illegal was driving with a history of hit and runs just before his first hit and run of the day and dumping his wife off at the side of the roasd to keep her from being taken in by ICE or something and fleeing the scene. county ,illegal killed himself in front a a tractor trailor truck in Stockbridge Ga. the day before yesterday /drunk! These socialist fools!
Atlantaminuteman 3 years ago
Sue, have you and this fool atlantaminuteman ever read The Monster from Jekyll Island? You guys are not that stupid, you are just letting your hate get in the way, and you are helping yourselves get screwed over in the process. Read the book, I can't waste much more time here with you two. Try to understand the federal reserve system, both of you, because you both have a lot to offer if you can just look at who the federal reserve really is and see the real problem.
thewhitetrashmuseum 3 years ago
David Rockefellor . Its still true thatthe illegal alien lobby is under controle by communist and seperatist ,racist,anarchist and aztlan,nationalist with no loyaly to the people of the USA.
Atlantaminuteman 3 years ago
I knew you weren't stupid. My name is Becky, sorry for the name calling, nice to meet you. So you understand where your income tax money goes? I know you can see the bigger picture if you would but think it out clearly and see WHY this undocumented labor is being ENCOURAGED. I would like to speak with you calmly about this and see what we can learn from each other. Thank you for your comment back sir, I look forward to our discussion.
thewhitetrashmuseum 3 years ago
The illegal aliens really do have a goal in mind. They do understand what they are doing . Even though they are being used . They do not see it that way. They feel empowered .They tell me that thsi is not my country in Cahmblee Ga. The rich Latinos also shouted when I protested GALEO of Georgia. check them out on the web...
Atlantaminuteman 3 years ago
So right, Atlantaminuteman.
PatriotSue 3 years ago
I understand what you are saying and how you feel, but both sides are being played here, as pawns. You know that yourself. The trick is to do what you and I are doing, which is to find a common place to start discussion. I will check out your video you sent me today and I will send you one.
thewhitetrashmuseum 3 years ago
We have been taking to the commisioners meetimgs and will satrt going around to every meeting and take our 5 minutes to talk about the NAU and open borders
Atlantaminuteman 3 years ago
Well there you go. I have enjoyed our uneasy alliance of opposition, but we have commented through this thread so much I can't find what's what any more. Have you ever read Behold a Pale Horse? I think you would like it. Feel free to comment me on my site or message as you have and thanks for being open minded. We don't agree on this issue, but at least we are willing to do more than complain. We may even meet on opposite sides of a protest some day, until then, safe journeys and better days.
thewhitetrashmuseum 3 years ago
You dumb fuck, you can't even speak english and it's your language. Do you know what this prison is costing YOU? Have you considered the fact that FREE labor fucks up the pay scale more than CHEAP labor? Any thoughts on enforcing the laws that prevent hiring undocumented labor? You are helping the ones hurting you and you don't even know it.
thewhitetrashmuseum 3 years ago
Who and what are you talking about?
Atlantaminuteman 3 years ago
They are deported within less than 5 weeks! The people in the facility have all been convicted of a crime and are deported. Maybe all of you open border fools should look into how Mexico controles its illegal alien population ! All of you pro illegal alien open borders socialist/communists should be exiled out of here and sent walking across the southern border of the USA !
Atlantaminuteman 3 years ago
God you are just not all there, I was talking to you jackass. Your first comment was more to the point. Look up some stats on CCA. They have NOT been convicted of anything, they have NOT even been charged with any crime. Jesus fucking christ I'll try to explain it to you. Undocumented workers are lured up here by the builderberg minions to divide and conquer, to be put in forced labor camps, which is what hutto is, and thereby also make fat profit to said builderbergs.
thewhitetrashmuseum 3 years ago
were is the sound
mouseinheaven 4 years ago
i guess some would prefer the children be toted away to some form of foster care system with some "alien" family that they do not know while their parents are being detained awaiting their deportation...??? instead of having the children with their parents...3 meals a day, free medical care, cable tv, playground out back,playstation 2 games, field trips ..oh yes i said field trips! this is all a big propaganda stunt..aimed at destroying and not enforcing our immigration laws
magnum6604 4 years ago
Ask for the 287 (g) program today to deport millions of criminals processed in every county in the USA !
Atlantaminuteman 4 years ago
Lots of people from here get the same free stuff they do, it's only a bad thing if you aren't the recipient isn't it?
Try living the life they did in their country and see if you have the stamina.
That goes for anyone who is oppressed in any country, put yourself in their shoes for even a day and see where they are coming from. It wasn't too long ago when your grandparents were the recipients of the same oppression. Never forget from where you came.
nangald 4 years ago
The people in the prison are convicted criminals you fool !I just talked to a custome today without a leg. My subject was 287(g) program that deports criminals aliens! She then told me how she lost her leg. A black AMerican lost het entire leg to illegal alien with a license and inurance and all he had to do was pay $10,000 bond and got off FREE and not deported ! We need more temp jails before deportation! Catch and release is against Americans . LAWLESS
Atlantaminuteman 4 years ago
No, they are not convicted criminals, and WHAT pray tell, is a custome?
thewhitetrashmuseum 3 years ago
David Rockefellor funds many Socialist groups as well as ford foundation .Maldef,NCLR
Atlantaminuteman 3 years ago
I protested at another prison in defense of it. It is located in Lumpkin. There was an open borders group there and we headed them off as they came up to it on a march. They give a free flight back to country of origin aftyer 5 weeks. During the 5 weeks the illegal alien tries to gain amnesty or visa. They have all been tried and convicted of big crimes. Thats in Georgia.Its on video here on you tube.I understand everything you are saying. I already know all of this.I am at work selling stuff.
Atlantaminuteman 3 years ago
The people are getting better care than 1/4 of all Americans!19500 American die from lack of health care every year while the illegal alien get free and that yummy free food and school !
Atlantaminuteman 4 years ago
yes, that food looks soooo yummy.
jvzq88 4 years ago
I was being sarcastic.
jvzq88 4 years ago
IDIOT ALERT!!!!!!
Bredac 3 years ago
Thank you for letting us know you are an idiot before you comment, thank you Docubloggers for the post, and thank you inknowrebekah for making an intelligent comment.
thewhitetrashmuseum 3 years ago
Illegal aliens are responsable for child sex crimes and rape at a 35% higher rate the US citizens.On average 25 people are murdered every day by illegal aliens.Mostly from South and central . crossing over twice is a felony after first time deportation and I ask all people to demand the 287 g program now. 10,000 illegal aliens have been processed through the Gwinnett county jail since 2006. Of those criminal aliens only 300 got deported. Now the 287 g begins soon and will deport 1000s!I helped:)
Atlantaminuteman 3 years ago
Thank you for letting us know that you are an idiot before you comment theracismmuseum. Thank you also for letting all of us know that you have no idea ablout the law,constitution,borders and that you an anti American !
Atlantaminuteman 3 years ago
The private prisons only house what the government gives them. So what is the difference between government and private camps? Even in government run facilities, a profit is made somewhere.
robocopmk2 4 years ago
OBVIOUS PROPAGANDA VIDEO. If you are here LEGALLY then the raids DO NOT affect you. Start enforcing the established laws against "illegal immigration." DEPORT the illegals and the families.
sppxpc 4 years ago
Well, it's not exactly propaganda. The footage was provided by the organization running the facility, so it is their sanctioned, santized look at life in the prison. Interesting how it still comes off looking so bad that it could be viewed as propaganda for the other side...
venusbug22 4 years ago
YEAH!!!!!
KUSUNOKI13 4 years ago
my mom is on here
TheSpadeMan 4 years ago
i would love it if you would post this as a vid response to my new piece on T. Don Hutto from the action there yesterday! Thanks! I'll try to get alot of views!
xox
skinnychef
skinnychef 4 years ago
I hope you don't really expect anyone to accept the connection you've drawn between nonviolent border crossers and bank robbers. You are missing the bigger picture.
The real problem with Hutto is very clear. Mothers, pregnant women and children that have immigrated to America seeking a meek existence will sleep in a prison bed tonight.
That is wrong.
That jailing toddlers and imprisoning innocent children is wrong is an inescapable moral truth.
nhudson35 4 years ago
The United States, home of the Republican Nazi Party.There appears to be familar incidents here that of what has not been seen since 1940's.
Thank God for elections. (2008)
hilltownhun2000 4 years ago
But stealing from others to gain a better life is not only unlawful, it is un-American! Illegal aliens are really no better than citizens who rob banks, except for this: Illegals have no legal, spiritual or logical basis for being in the US.
KUSUNOKI13 4 years ago
People who illegally cross our borders are outlaws, regardless of their purpose for invading. An apt analogy may help you understand: Bank robbers (those engaged in undocumented withdrawals, if you prefer) commit their crimes only in pursuit of a better life.
KUSUNOKI13 4 years ago
I hope you don't really expect anyone to accept the connection you've drawn between nonviolent border crossers and bank robbers. You are missing the bigger picture.
The real problem with Hutto is very clear. Mothers, pregnant women and children that have immigrated to America seeking a meek existence will sleep in a prison bed tonight.
That is wrong.
That jailing toddlers and imprisoning innocent children is wrong is an inescapable moral truth.
nhudson35 4 years ago
Illegal is illegal weather its walking across the border in bunny slippers internet investment fraud.
Imprisoning children / detaining a family? Hmmm, interesting how you word it. You're obviously ignorant about the ICE Service Processing Centers and immigrants in removal proceedings or awaiting removal. And you think Hutto is bad. Where have you been?
KUSUNOKI13 4 years ago
It used to be illegal for African Americans to use public restrooms in Texas, but segregation was never right. I am a researcher for a nonprofit organization that works on immigrant detention and private prison issues. Hutto is an egregious resultant of the conflict between public enterprise and the goals of the criminal justice system. CCA is profiting from the imprisonment of families. Those are the reasons that will bring hundreds of protesters to the facility until it closes.
nhudson35 4 years ago
So CCA and the Hutto facility is the only one that got your attention huh? Some research you've done.
It's better to have ICE "run" the facility than a private company is it?
KUSUNOKI13 4 years ago
The right thing to do is to shut the facility, along with the other facilities, down and stop sending mothers and children to jail. In case you were wondering-- I'm currently investigating several private prisons, including the 2000-bed tent erected in Raymondville in 45 days to detain immigrants.
It makes sense that most private prison work would be centered on CCA-- the largest for-profit prison company in the world.
nhudson35 4 years ago
In Southern Texas, the rate of immigrant detention exploded between 2003 and 2004, and it has been rising faster than any other part of the nation-- including Southern Arizona and California. Previously immigrants and political asylum seekers were just deported, but now they're being unnecessarily and expensively detained by private prison corporations like CCA, Geo Group Cornell Corrections, Emerald, and Civigenics.
nhudson35 4 years ago
Well good luck on your putting tax paying Americans out of work so your illegal immigrants can impose billions in cost on all of us just so send money out of the country.
KUSUNOKI13 4 years ago
Actually, because the rate of immigrant detention has exploded (between 2003 and 2004, in Texas South, it jumped by 4000%!-- forty times the national average and wildly disproportionate to any other southern district), the cost of putting immigrants behind bars has increased too. Our tax dollars are going to the private prison companies! Keeping Hutto open ensures that our Tax dollars benefit CCA's shareholders while families are unnecessarily kept behind bars.
nhudson35 4 years ago
Yeah...... and that increase wouldn't be because people are fed up with illegals huh? Well, I'm proud of south Texas. Almost as good as AZ.... Lock 'em up!
KUSUNOKI13 4 years ago
The increase in detention is due in part to lobbying by groups like CCA. You're shortsighted, and at least little stupid. This isn't about politics or policy. The movement against Hutto is about human decency. Children and families do not belong in prison.
nhudson35 4 years ago
You're a prison guard, aren't you? Perhaps for CCA?
nhudson35 4 years ago
Ha-ha!
Please, surely you jest.
KUSUNOKI13 4 years ago
I wasn't kidding! :) I don't understand why anyone blindly and recklessly promotes bankrupt economic and social policies unless he gets something out of it. There's a massive conflict of interest between the goals of private enterprise and those of our criminal justice system. Private prison companies like CCA, Geo Group and Cornell should be shut down.
nhudson35 4 years ago
You're complaining about capitalism?
KUSUNOKI13 4 years ago
Nono! Capitalism is good. Private prisons are bad. I'm sorry if I confused you. When companies profit from detaining little kids like CCA is at Hutto, capitalism has gone way wrong. Is that better?
nhudson35 4 years ago
Private -BAD
Capitalism- GOOD.
Now I'm really confused. Sorry apparently I'm just a defeated simpleton.
KUSUNOKI13 4 years ago
I'll try to dumb it down for you. When one person makes a profit by imprisoning another person, problems are likely to arise. One of those problems is the detention of children. There are children inside of a private detention center in Taylor, Texas. That is a problem.
nhudson35 4 years ago
Well who came up with this Jail crap then?
And the guy who thought up juvenile detention centers is really bad too huh?
KUSUNOKI13 4 years ago
Private companies should not assume the government's responsibility-- its duty-- to run prisons and jails.
nhudson35 4 years ago
The Government hired 'em there genius,
KUSUNOKI13 4 years ago
When we compromise that value and obscure the truth with debate about criminality, we compromise the safety of every child—not just those in T. Don Hutto. The difficult questions we must consider when we talk about Hutto are not political in nature, and they have nothing to do with national security, national law or economics.
Those questions distract us.
nhudson35 4 years ago
The only questions to consider pertain to the moral constitution of our society, and the meaning of words like justice, equality, and human dignity.
Hutto must be shut down if we hope to preserve the definition of those very American values.
nhudson35 4 years ago
What ever...
Strengthen our borders. Enforce the laws on the books. Restore respect for the rule of law. Agree that the fight isn't over immigration, but ILLEGAL immigration. And, most important, agree that Americans HAVE a right to define and defend what it means to be an American!
KUSUNOKI13 4 years ago
Your comments are more than a little irrational and ignorant. Objections to T. Don Hutto center around basic human rights. Innocent-- yes, innocent-- children and refugee families are at Hutto now, and CCA is profiting from their detention.
nhudson35 4 years ago