Amazing. A Real progressive band. Been hooked on there sound for years. Got them in my CD collection along with other dark industrialized acts Kmfdm, Nine Inch Nails, Coil, Cabaret Voltaire, Depeche Mode, Angel Spit, Gary Numan, Front Line Assembly, Vex Red, AllFlaws
how much do we know about Ogre? I've been reading interviews and watching them for info about him and there's really not much about his personal life on the internet (he's probably grateful for that lol!) but really im curious about him!
how people forget bands such as Einstürzende Neubauten, early SPK, Test Dept. etc. when referring to industrial music is beyond me. Industrial music got it's name from bands like these, There were quite a few of true industrial bands(and still is) in Europe in the late 70's and early 80's that influenced most of the industrial music at the same time in Canada and the States.
Back in the day we took so much crap from the heavy metal dorks all thinking they were bad. Then came SP and industrial took us to another level. Those heavy metal goofs would have wet themselves at a SP concert int he 80's. It was groundbreaking. Goettel and Key with their freaking hair! Nivek threateningly held a knife throughout a song...at the end he licked it and blood was flying all over us. My buddy had to leave to get some air. It was out of hand. SP forever.
I love the NIN video for "down in it" playing in the background!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thank you for noticing, whoever you are made this video, that NIN ripped this song!
@TheNewMusicNetwork doesn't sound even vaguely familiar to me as a nin fan.. well.. i think every 16volt song i've ever heard sounds just like this, not that that's really a bad thing
well you're a NIN fan so you're biased. trent clearly stole the beat ideas as well as the guitar stabs. pretty obvious. and 16 is fucking lame. always was, other than their one good song motorskill.(and i had their cds but sold them because they sucked) their latest is even worse.
A person can identify with something to varying degrees of bias. Discarding someone's opinion because of allegiance is not only fallacious, but also close-minded.
I remember the first time I saw this video, I was about 16 or 17. It was on a music video show called "Night Flight". (back during the time when MTV was actually "Music"TV. :P) I was amazed & instantly hooked. v'''''v
for all you new "rivetheads" out there who just joined the industrial league, i suggest you dive deeper into the industrial/EBM scene. theres more to SP,NIN and ministry. if u want to find out more industrial bands, u can pm me =) i recommend these bands: Front242 Wumpscut Funker Vogt Velvet Acid Christ Frontline Assembly Hocico Suicide Commando Leaether Strip Frontline Assembly Blutengel
Skinny Puppy is the hardest band around period. damn, they've been around since I was a youngster and I just got into them- I really missed out! But I have them now.
C'mon guys. NIN is fucking great, Skinny Puppy is fucking great, Ministry is fucking great, TG is fucking great. Industrial is fucking awesome. We shouldn't be fighting over good bands when theres way shittier music out there
@superfundeathhammer your getting subed for that comment... yea like greeday they suck...any1 who thinks greenday are sellout whores give a like to this vid or thumbs up me
@superfundeathhammer He's right guys. Hate on fags like Justin Beiber, not people who actually do shit: Like Ministry, Skinny Puppy, Acid Bath, Nine Inch Nails (only pretty hate machine), Trivium, Skinny Puppy, Mark Walk, Skinny Puppy, Cephalic Carnage, Skinny Puppy, Goat Squeal, Skinny Puppy, or Skinny Puppy.
@SkinnyPuppy208 That's great. I'm just glad people still listen to these bands, ya know? It's just... I dunno, makes me feel that much more happy at the end of the day.
@superfundeathhammer All Industrial Metal Bandas are great, Ministry is great, Skinny Puppy is great, Frontline Assembly is great, even ive never heard any of their music, also Oomph, Diekrupps, or how should be written, i dont know, Junkie XL, Godflesh, KMFDM, Classic Rammstein, Fear Factory, Static-X, well, its just awesome, please mention me some other industrial metal bands i dont know yet. Thanks
I agree with hellchild65, Trent is supremely overrated. People think he's just this musical genius. There are a few good NIN songs, but there are plenty of artists who were into Edward Gorey and David Bowie before Trent.
Skinny Puppy is one of the greatest industrial bands, but they have had some albums that weren't that great.
Rabies and SK's earlier albums were their best just as NIN's first few albums where their best, IMO.
The problem with NIN is that it's not original like it was.
lets be honest, if it wasnt for trent opening his mouth about ripping off this song, half of us wouldnt be here. that being said, i think everyone should shut the fuck up about Nine Inch Nails, and just leave comments regarding Skinny Puppy. i think 90 percent of the comments here are about how trent stole the music. this topic will probably never end as long as Nine Inch Nail fans are alowed to post.
I am so fucking sick of this argument, its never going to go away is it?
I'm kind of thankful, because I had never listened to Skinny Puppy and someone had mentioned how Down In It was influenced by Dig It, so I checked out this song, probably this very video, on youtube. This guy gave me Ohgr's Welt, but I never got to checking out anything about SP. With that being said,
Down In it was influenced by Dig It. Trent did not copy it nor did he take Skinny Puppy's image or whatever.
as much as i like NIN i think,in this decade, they are overrated. last good NIN album for me was with teeth, the last 3 trent made were shit. SP is still pretty sweet still, i havent seen them live yet but i heard they put on a killer live show, very artsy-like.
see thats what makes him horrible now and thats the one album that was overrated, YZ was nothing that wasnt done before both in theme and music and the lyrics were god aweful compared to the rest of his works. plus there are people saying its as good as or better then The Fragile or TDS, which is obviously complete BS and shows how the NIN fanbase is completely overwhelmed by trent no matter how shitty hes become.
@Hellchild65: The NIN fanbase is just fine, leave well enough alone. I'll acknowledge that we're on an SP video, but your comment is just too stupid to ignore.
What you said is true - there will NEVER be another Fragile, or Downward Spiral, but Year Zero was great in both sonic and physical form. YZ beat the SHIT out of With Teeth. But before you jump on the NIN Sucks! bandwagon - I must ask: have you even HEARD Ghosts I-IV? And I'm saying that with all seriousness. Like...a solid listen.
and how exactly is my comment stupid? because NIN is overrated in this decade and most of its fans dont see it? Please, the majority of the NIN fanbase is just as ignorant and obsessed with there artist as the slayer fanbase nowdays.
could care less comparing WT to YZ, but YZ isnt anything special like so many NIN fans think. the lyrics, like i said, are pretty shitty and most song off the record were shitty as well IMO, and i know quite a few who agree with me that newer NIN isnt that good.
I assume you mentioned slayer for my class project. Nice one trying to pull my tastes into this but it's irrelevant.
I say your comment is stupid because you're basing NIN of the current era, finished as it may be, with the NIN of TDS. Do you really think every album a band makes is going to top their older work?
I'll be the first to agree with you that YZ, WT, & Slip all suck in comparison to TDS. But TDS isn't all that NIN is.
Even Skinny Puppy had a few not-so-great-in-retrospect albums
i havent even looked at your channel, nor would i have any reason too unless you were my friend or the like, im just speaking from personal experiance with slayer fans a few years back being dumb asses. aside from that you should note the "IMO". and i know DS isnt all that NIN is or was, i think overall those albums are bad, but i do like a few tracks off them, i mean im a NIN fan so im not going to hate the whole damn record.
I concede that much. Trent has gone over the hill musically, but I myself am still not going to give up on NIN yet. He's been the best spokesman the music fan has ever had from the buisiness side of the CD's that we buy.
He's a dick. And he often contradicts himself - but goddamnit, I respect him for the balls he has. I hate it when Puppy fans go ape shit over the mere mention of Reznor. Didn't mean to jump on you - and it was my bad on the slayer thing. Its the most recent upload I had.
NIN is still good live i wont deny that, i still saw them live twice even after i disliked YZ and the slip, ghosts had a few good tracks, but nothing almighty like most people think.
I disagree for the most part. This is like all of the old GNR fans who just bashed chinese democracy, when in fact, it's one of (if not their best) albums. NIN Is great, and so is year zero, and so is the slip. Music changes as it grows, it's not always going to stay the same. Just because YZ or The Slip doesn't sound like WT, or The Fragile, or TDS, it doesn't make them bad albums. Though a bit different - still excellent music.
NIN was a good band even though trent true direct inspiration for down in it from this song. Ghosts was awesome and year zero had a really cool concept to it but I think SP and throbbing grissle should have both gotten more credit for industrial. On a side note they all helped pave the way for the new stage like psyclon nines aggrotech feel which makes me happy.
I'm in the process of writing a ten pager on Industrial Metal...Cant believe i didn't mention P9 yet...though if it makes the NIN bashers feel any better, I devoted the whole of two paragraphs to them while collectively, SP and Gristle take four pages...Ministry and KMFDM getting another two. Haha....
Sounds like how it should be. The true creators of industrial should get the most credit and those who made it into something fresh again like P9 should as well lol.
Well - thats the historical truth of it. I wont blindside anyone - Puppy and Gristle (Puppy Gristle, lol) had a lot more to offer to the scene. My own personal taste still puts NIN way ahead of any other band, with KMFDM and SP coming close.
Call me tasteless in industrial, but theres a lot of Gristle (particularily the extremely old and the extremely "new" stuff.) I just can't listen to for more than a song or so.
Well gristle did have a lot of really weird almost psychedelic type music in their day. So I can't say I blame you. Once skold left KMFDM I couldn't listen anymore he was my favorite lol.
For your paper, you need to understand that Industrial and Metal only met together a long while after Industrial was in. Skinny Puppy was the second wave, when Industrial was linked with techno pop, a probable influence of synth pop, itself coming from Kraftwerk. The 70's were the true Industrial, and Cabaret Voltaire had a greater influence on the more techno-pop-oriented like Skinny Puppy than Throbbin Gristle, which influenced experimental noise bands (Einsturzende, Coil, and others).
how r we talking bout nin wen wer listening sp gdmit lemme gues it started with down in it cpopying this song yes we all no trent copied this song he admitted to it every1 just stfu and listen to the song
@hellchild65 I have not even listened to NIN since Teeth, but I had to miss my chance to see them on 06-06-06, which sucked, but got to see Skinny Puppy Tuesday, and they have a good stage performance, not as good as it used to be, though, so I have been told.
NIN were obviously influenced by many industrial dance bands. You cant reduce them to a skinny puppy rip off. that would be an insult to both bands...
cut the down in it shit... anyone whom consider's themselves a fan of either band knows the hoopla surrounding the issue. stop freaking out like fanboys and arguing about it 21 years later
i saw Skinny Puppy in 1988 (or was it 87?) in Pittsburgh and NIN opened for them, well, a very embryonic version of NIN. I'm sure Trent was hugely influenced beat wise, but Down In It is a very different song. By then SP had moved much further away from anything danceable.
why do people keep complaining about down in it and this song. They're not that similar. they have their similar aspects, but not really. Trent really doesn't seem like somebody who would intentionally copy somebody else's music.
You know, Trent himself said in an interview that Down In It was kind of a knock off of this. Not dissing anyone, just saying. It kind of is. No ones better though.
It's funny to hear all the Trent defenders trashing S.P. (my band is NIN, has been for years) since the man himself goes out of his way to salute anybody doing things like him: totally boosting Marilyn Manson onto the scene, getting Peter Murphy and Gary Numan into his last concerts, giving people somewhere else to look since he's not going to be making music for a while, promoting new bands.
Why do people always argue about who's better? There's no point. NIN are great, Ministry are great, Skinny Puppy are great. Stop moaning and enjoy some decent tunes
economic slave
lichtungdesseins 6 months ago
Amazing. A Real progressive band. Been hooked on there sound for years. Got them in my CD collection along with other dark industrialized acts Kmfdm, Nine Inch Nails, Coil, Cabaret Voltaire, Depeche Mode, Angel Spit, Gary Numan, Front Line Assembly, Vex Red, AllFlaws
wonnatryit 9 months ago 9
freedom as an offering
earx23 11 months ago
waste of a download
syksix6 1 year ago 2
how much do we know about Ogre? I've been reading interviews and watching them for info about him and there's really not much about his personal life on the internet (he's probably grateful for that lol!) but really im curious about him!
sicksexfix 1 year ago
fucking greatest band of all time.
Angelblaster24 1 year ago
DIG IT
"Execute economic slave--
feed it unearthly remains.
Freedom as an offering--
that's the game!"
DIG IT!
ModernPlague 1 year ago
how people forget bands such as Einstürzende Neubauten, early SPK, Test Dept. etc. when referring to industrial music is beyond me. Industrial music got it's name from bands like these, There were quite a few of true industrial bands(and still is) in Europe in the late 70's and early 80's that influenced most of the industrial music at the same time in Canada and the States.
fishi1231 1 year ago
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fishi1231 1 year ago
shut up and Assimilate bitches!
LeviathanoftheDanube 1 year ago 2
@LeviathanoftheDanube AMEN
fishi1231 1 year ago
i love SP, if it wasn't for them there would be no NIN!
lilashioyo 1 year ago
@lilashioyo GET OUT
UnfedDog 1 year ago
@UnfedDog actually u get asshole unfed dog atlest knows who came fucking first and whos a ripoff
GuruBabadesh 1 year ago
Dig it dig it
Freedom as an offering
Dig it dig it
viper8red 1 year ago
individual people with individual tastes.
amerthil 1 year ago
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Back in the day we took so much crap from the heavy metal dorks all thinking they were bad. Then came SP and industrial took us to another level. Those heavy metal goofs would have wet themselves at a SP concert int he 80's. It was groundbreaking. Goettel and Key with their freaking hair! Nivek threateningly held a knife throughout a song...at the end he licked it and blood was flying all over us. My buddy had to leave to get some air. It was out of hand. SP forever.
biodot88 1 year ago
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biodot88 1 year ago
Wait I'm just getting in on this...NIN owes its arse to SP.
biodot88 1 year ago
If you want a good electro-rock-indus-punk'n roll, listen Punish Yourself !
eMet23h58 1 year ago
Been into Skinny Puppy for over 20 years and they are still GOD of Industrial music!!!!
eatthelies138 1 year ago 2
MIND: PERPETUAL INTERCOURSE is my FAVORITE industrial album! nothing else comes close to its intensity,beauty and decadence.
tool619 1 year ago
People need to grow up and stop fucking arguing and complaining on YouTube videos. This has to fucking stop.
MarsionLove 1 year ago
@MarsionLove could not agree with you more!!!!!!
1971mollycat 1 year ago
i was gonna post my opinion, but then id get flamed out :P
(i dont like it)
1SMF0F 1 year ago
when did they start sounding like PWEI
bigmac fries to go
bainty666 1 year ago
Good to go. Amazing how all the real industrial bands never sold out...google "fistKranKping"
silverlage 1 year ago
i'm slowly getting into skinny puppy the more i listen to them, but ogre sort of sounds like the sligs from the oddworld series in this song.
jelli0823 1 year ago
the vocals sound like those machines guys with throat cancer speak through
emile235 1 year ago
according to trent, down in it was inspired by dig it.
UbermenschTheory 1 year ago
sp stole a lot of their ideas from TG, and cabaret voltaire. the beats and what not.
TheNewMusicNetwork 1 year ago
All music artists are driven by inspiration from someone or something else. Let's just enjoy the music and the fact that we can.
AnimosityJade 1 year ago
I love the NIN video for "down in it" playing in the background!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thank you for noticing, whoever you are made this video, that NIN ripped this song!
michaelquickable 1 year ago
nin ripped off this song big time
TheNewMusicNetwork 1 year ago
@TheNewMusicNetwork doesn't sound even vaguely familiar to me as a nin fan.. well.. i think every 16volt song i've ever heard sounds just like this, not that that's really a bad thing
Insideout667 1 year ago
well you're a NIN fan so you're biased. trent clearly stole the beat ideas as well as the guitar stabs. pretty obvious. and 16 is fucking lame. always was, other than their one good song motorskill.(and i had their cds but sold them because they sucked) their latest is even worse.
TheNewMusicNetwork 1 year ago
@TheNewMusicNetwork
"well you're a NIN fan so you're biased."
*withholds laughter*
A person can identify with something to varying degrees of bias. Discarding someone's opinion because of allegiance is not only fallacious, but also close-minded.
SaltedRhubarb 1 year ago
@SaltedRhubarb, when you're all over trents 2 inch cock like your friend their, something is afoot. no?
TheNewMusicNetwork 1 year ago
@SaltedRhubarb you cannot blame him for saying that considering how most NIN fans are nowdays tho, completely different from how they used to be:
"wait, trent said that guy is terrible and makes shitty music? by god it must be true!"
hellchild65 1 year ago
@TheNewMusicNetwork All new ideas come from something that came before with an added twist. There are no original ideas.
tracycj2001 1 year ago
@tracycj2001 what is NEW about nin?
nin is pretty boring from what i've seen. the kill yourself lyrics get old.
TheNewMusicNetwork 1 year ago
LOVE IT!!!!!!!!!!
LitleWhiteClown 1 year ago
badly..
wakeupmaster 1 year ago
badass video
SaintAntRox 1 year ago
the music videos for down in it and dig it use the same type of letterbox
NM162 1 year ago
Kinda reminds me of New Order's Shellshock video too and vice versa.
akira543 1 year ago
This song directly influenced "Down in it." Listen to them back-to-back and the resemblance is unquestionable.
featheon 1 year ago
exioffice4thcircuth80s 4-0s
zeta2323 1 year ago
Rob Zombie owes his ass to Skinny Puppy.
nickspear 1 year ago 23
@nickspear So does Trent Reznor.
halifuckinfan 1 year ago 2
Why?
themiserymachine666 1 year ago
@nickspear why rob zombie
TheNineinchsnails 1 year ago
@nickspear Everyone, i.e. NIN, Ministry, KMFDM, etc owes Skinny Puppy
Tbone00669 1 year ago
acid squid nipples days lolololololol
fuelgod 1 year ago
YAY PUPPY!!!
DigitalBitch2000 1 year ago
SKINNY RULES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
franklopez1025 1 year ago
Hey, has anyone heard their song Burnt With Water?? Anyone knows what is that muslim song they sample?
raso1991 1 year ago
@raso1991 It's from The Exorcist, in the first few minutes of the movie.
rozennightshade 1 year ago
Yeeees, that's the one, that's why it was soo familiar to me! Thanks a lot!
raso1991 1 year ago
I wish they had kept this version on the CD release... it's much more powerful sounding.
greypuppycorpse 1 year ago
notice i said "if". if you didn't well then my comment doesn't apply to you.
spadehatesscrewtube 2 years ago
Hype Williams need to write Skinny Puppy a check for ripping off the framing in this video
jasonbigelow 2 years ago
I love the Twilight Zone sample in this song.Weird!!!
mort4121 2 years ago
If you speed it up, it does sound just like that NIN song...
onewingedjade 2 years ago
You mean the NIN song sounds like this.
daehkcarc 2 years ago 3
Haha, indeed.
onewingedjade 2 years ago
I remember the first time I saw this video, I was about 16 or 17. It was on a music video show called "Night Flight". (back during the time when MTV was actually "Music"TV. :P) I was amazed & instantly hooked. v'''''v
PhantomsDesire 2 years ago 3
Remember 120 Minutes??
I still have a lot of it on VHS tape. ;-)
hEADcRASH13 2 years ago
wax trax records gets all of them including kmfdm and my life with the thrill kill cult
TrojanFL 2 years ago 2
tool619 2 years ago 2
Also try the bands Download and Ohgr
both are side projects of SP members.
SyringeCycle 2 years ago
Download is some pretty cool shit.. I really liked Furnace...that was a unique experimental album
kowtpr187 2 years ago
Why the fuck would you recomend Suicide Commando to anyone? they suck some cock, I'd recomend something ORIGINAL like Throbbing Gristle or Psychic TV
MutleeIsTheAntiGod 2 years ago
it seems like so few ppl actually know about those two these days =/
funkmasterfrex 2 years ago
Leatherface was another good one.
daehkcarc 2 years ago
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ebm sucks this is not industrial
sickolinokio 2 years ago
wanna tell me what it is jerk?
AMMMNN 2 years ago
sp is industrial. practically the epitome of such, if you are saying anything to the contrary , well, you good sir , are an idiot.
spadehatesscrewtube 2 years ago 3
sp is one of my fav bands and i dont think they are ebm...
sickolinokio 2 years ago
and i was replying to someone, my comment is not about sp
sickolinokio 2 years ago
The hell it isnt you dumb cocksucker!
DanceTheSpears 2 years ago
old time fav..
djchangbang 2 years ago
i dont see how trent ripped this song off for down in it, i heard a little terrible lie familarity
narutoabridgedfan18 2 years ago
up yours vapid cunt
TRENT IS OVER! SLIP IS A FUCKING JOKE!
raid0422 2 years ago
Must you start band wars? Really?
Grow up.
DvineINFEKT 2 years ago 2
Skinny Puppy is the hardest band around period. damn, they've been around since I was a youngster and I just got into them- I really missed out! But I have them now.
michaelquickable 2 years ago
C'mon guys. NIN is fucking great, Skinny Puppy is fucking great, Ministry is fucking great, TG is fucking great. Industrial is fucking awesome. We shouldn't be fighting over good bands when theres way shittier music out there
superfundeathhammer 2 years ago 66
AMEN!!!
superbombast 2 years ago
@superfundeathhammer you win
Soulreaver51 2 years ago
@superfundeathhammer your getting subed for that comment... yea like greeday they suck...any1 who thinks greenday are sellout whores give a like to this vid or thumbs up me
TheNineinchsnails 1 year ago
yeah but none of those bands are really industrial except tg and some sp stuff.
TheNewMusicNetwork 1 year ago
@superfundeathhammer
True that
michaelquickable 1 year ago
@superfundeathhammer amen
tool619 1 year ago
@superfundeathhammer He's right guys. Hate on fags like Justin Beiber, not people who actually do shit: Like Ministry, Skinny Puppy, Acid Bath, Nine Inch Nails (only pretty hate machine), Trivium, Skinny Puppy, Mark Walk, Skinny Puppy, Cephalic Carnage, Skinny Puppy, Goat Squeal, Skinny Puppy, or Skinny Puppy.
Gamnash4 1 year ago
@Gamnash4 why the fuck isnt front line on that list
SkinnyPuppy208 1 year ago
@SkinnyPuppy208 Frontline Assembly is awesome... I was being general; there are a lot of groups I appreciate.
Gamnash4 1 year ago
@Gamnash4 ok Lol i love FLA
SkinnyPuppy208 1 year ago
@SkinnyPuppy208 Me too... Have you heard the new Napalm Death album? Pretty sick if ya ask me.
Gamnash4 1 year ago
@Gamnash4 no i havent ill check it out i got to meet FLA and got my guitar signed bill leeb is awesome!!!
SkinnyPuppy208 1 year ago
@SkinnyPuppy208 That's great. I'm just glad people still listen to these bands, ya know? It's just... I dunno, makes me feel that much more happy at the end of the day.
Gamnash4 1 year ago
@Gamnash4 hell yeah
SkinnyPuppy208 1 year ago
@superfundeathhammer GET OUT! NIN sucks.
UnfedDog 1 year ago
@UnfedDog Maybe they do... But you gargle, swallow, and spit it back out.
Gamnash4 1 year ago
@superfundeathhammer All Industrial Metal Bandas are great, Ministry is great, Skinny Puppy is great, Frontline Assembly is great, even ive never heard any of their music, also Oomph, Diekrupps, or how should be written, i dont know, Junkie XL, Godflesh, KMFDM, Classic Rammstein, Fear Factory, Static-X, well, its just awesome, please mention me some other industrial metal bands i dont know yet. Thanks
Jasonv078 1 year ago
I agree with hellchild65, Trent is supremely overrated. People think he's just this musical genius. There are a few good NIN songs, but there are plenty of artists who were into Edward Gorey and David Bowie before Trent.
Skinny Puppy is one of the greatest industrial bands, but they have had some albums that weren't that great.
Rabies and SK's earlier albums were their best just as NIN's first few albums where their best, IMO.
The problem with NIN is that it's not original like it was.
WEISsGEBeter 2 years ago
so what`?
dixxer1234 2 years ago
these guys with the guys from wax trax taught trent everything he knows. trent made it "big". good for fucking him.
fishslayer4 2 years ago
Reminds me more of Terrible Lie than Down In It, tbh.
Sutchman 2 years ago 3
lets be honest, if it wasnt for trent opening his mouth about ripping off this song, half of us wouldnt be here. that being said, i think everyone should shut the fuck up about Nine Inch Nails, and just leave comments regarding Skinny Puppy. i think 90 percent of the comments here are about how trent stole the music. this topic will probably never end as long as Nine Inch Nail fans are alowed to post.
r4scuache 2 years ago 3
yes the singer does sound like a mechanical pirate but hey im stoned too LOL
Skinny Puppy ROCKS i've been a fan since early 90's!
69KiFF69 2 years ago
the singer makes me think of a giant gay mechanical sailor. then again, im stoned
sunnoisamazing 2 years ago 2
Very well said Superbombast
quantum927 2 years ago
I am so fucking sick of this argument, its never going to go away is it?
I'm kind of thankful, because I had never listened to Skinny Puppy and someone had mentioned how Down In It was influenced by Dig It, so I checked out this song, probably this very video, on youtube. This guy gave me Ohgr's Welt, but I never got to checking out anything about SP. With that being said,
Down In it was influenced by Dig It. Trent did not copy it nor did he take Skinny Puppy's image or whatever.
superbombast 2 years ago 4
talking about music is like dancing about architecture.
neetrihtneves 2 years ago 2
as much as i like NIN i think,in this decade, they are overrated. last good NIN album for me was with teeth, the last 3 trent made were shit. SP is still pretty sweet still, i havent seen them live yet but i heard they put on a killer live show, very artsy-like.
hellchild65 2 years ago
Year Zero was one of his best albums, in my opinion. A lot better than With Teeth.
IronCrue3 2 years ago
see thats what makes him horrible now and thats the one album that was overrated, YZ was nothing that wasnt done before both in theme and music and the lyrics were god aweful compared to the rest of his works. plus there are people saying its as good as or better then The Fragile or TDS, which is obviously complete BS and shows how the NIN fanbase is completely overwhelmed by trent no matter how shitty hes become.
hellchild65 2 years ago
@Hellchild65: The NIN fanbase is just fine, leave well enough alone. I'll acknowledge that we're on an SP video, but your comment is just too stupid to ignore.
What you said is true - there will NEVER be another Fragile, or Downward Spiral, but Year Zero was great in both sonic and physical form. YZ beat the SHIT out of With Teeth. But before you jump on the NIN Sucks! bandwagon - I must ask: have you even HEARD Ghosts I-IV? And I'm saying that with all seriousness. Like...a solid listen.
DvineINFEKT 2 years ago
and how exactly is my comment stupid? because NIN is overrated in this decade and most of its fans dont see it? Please, the majority of the NIN fanbase is just as ignorant and obsessed with there artist as the slayer fanbase nowdays.
could care less comparing WT to YZ, but YZ isnt anything special like so many NIN fans think. the lyrics, like i said, are pretty shitty and most song off the record were shitty as well IMO, and i know quite a few who agree with me that newer NIN isnt that good.
hellchild65 2 years ago
I assume you mentioned slayer for my class project. Nice one trying to pull my tastes into this but it's irrelevant.
I say your comment is stupid because you're basing NIN of the current era, finished as it may be, with the NIN of TDS. Do you really think every album a band makes is going to top their older work?
I'll be the first to agree with you that YZ, WT, & Slip all suck in comparison to TDS. But TDS isn't all that NIN is.
Even Skinny Puppy had a few not-so-great-in-retrospect albums
DvineINFEKT 2 years ago
i havent even looked at your channel, nor would i have any reason too unless you were my friend or the like, im just speaking from personal experiance with slayer fans a few years back being dumb asses. aside from that you should note the "IMO". and i know DS isnt all that NIN is or was, i think overall those albums are bad, but i do like a few tracks off them, i mean im a NIN fan so im not going to hate the whole damn record.
hellchild65 2 years ago
my point was is just that trent is overrated in this decade as an artist is all.
hellchild65 2 years ago
I concede that much. Trent has gone over the hill musically, but I myself am still not going to give up on NIN yet. He's been the best spokesman the music fan has ever had from the buisiness side of the CD's that we buy.
He's a dick. And he often contradicts himself - but goddamnit, I respect him for the balls he has. I hate it when Puppy fans go ape shit over the mere mention of Reznor. Didn't mean to jump on you - and it was my bad on the slayer thing. Its the most recent upload I had.
DvineINFEKT 2 years ago
NIN is still good live i wont deny that, i still saw them live twice even after i disliked YZ and the slip, ghosts had a few good tracks, but nothing almighty like most people think.
hellchild65 2 years ago
@hellchild65
I disagree for the most part. This is like all of the old GNR fans who just bashed chinese democracy, when in fact, it's one of (if not their best) albums. NIN Is great, and so is year zero, and so is the slip. Music changes as it grows, it's not always going to stay the same. Just because YZ or The Slip doesn't sound like WT, or The Fragile, or TDS, it doesn't make them bad albums. Though a bit different - still excellent music.
OmenOfOdin 1 year ago
NIN was a good band even though trent true direct inspiration for down in it from this song. Ghosts was awesome and year zero had a really cool concept to it but I think SP and throbbing grissle should have both gotten more credit for industrial. On a side note they all helped pave the way for the new stage like psyclon nines aggrotech feel which makes me happy.
wolf102286 2 years ago
haha. Thanks for mentioning P9.
I'm in the process of writing a ten pager on Industrial Metal...Cant believe i didn't mention P9 yet...though if it makes the NIN bashers feel any better, I devoted the whole of two paragraphs to them while collectively, SP and Gristle take four pages...Ministry and KMFDM getting another two. Haha....
DvineINFEKT 2 years ago
Sounds like how it should be. The true creators of industrial should get the most credit and those who made it into something fresh again like P9 should as well lol.
wolf102286 2 years ago
Well - thats the historical truth of it. I wont blindside anyone - Puppy and Gristle (Puppy Gristle, lol) had a lot more to offer to the scene. My own personal taste still puts NIN way ahead of any other band, with KMFDM and SP coming close.
Call me tasteless in industrial, but theres a lot of Gristle (particularily the extremely old and the extremely "new" stuff.) I just can't listen to for more than a song or so.
DvineINFEKT 2 years ago
Well gristle did have a lot of really weird almost psychedelic type music in their day. So I can't say I blame you. Once skold left KMFDM I couldn't listen anymore he was my favorite lol.
wolf102286 2 years ago
For your paper, you need to understand that Industrial and Metal only met together a long while after Industrial was in. Skinny Puppy was the second wave, when Industrial was linked with techno pop, a probable influence of synth pop, itself coming from Kraftwerk. The 70's were the true Industrial, and Cabaret Voltaire had a greater influence on the more techno-pop-oriented like Skinny Puppy than Throbbin Gristle, which influenced experimental noise bands (Einsturzende, Coil, and others).
Neurozumim 2 years ago 2
Thats a wholeeeee nother paper entirely. Kraftwerk is the shit though. My professor made a point of that himself. Lol.
Definately will try to expand some of that earlier shit before I turn it in tomorrow - thanks for the tip dude. =]
DvineINFEKT 2 years ago
i would love to see that paper haha
slaythings 2 years ago
how r we talking bout nin wen wer listening sp gdmit lemme gues it started with down in it cpopying this song yes we all no trent copied this song he admitted to it every1 just stfu and listen to the song
TheNineinchsnails 2 years ago
No, you idiot. Just read through some of the comments and you will know. Assumptions are not good, yo.
IronCrue3 2 years ago
@hellchild65 I have not even listened to NIN since Teeth, but I had to miss my chance to see them on 06-06-06, which sucked, but got to see Skinny Puppy Tuesday, and they have a good stage performance, not as good as it used to be, though, so I have been told.
honeyemote 2 years ago
i am seeing them tonight in Toronto. Should be interesting. A bunch of old people in the mosh pit...breaking bones. Ill post how it went
lol
PROGRESSIVE1CA 2 years ago
is that mike patton at 0:12?
mariomesen 2 years ago 2
"I was up above it..."
LoserNO13 2 years ago
NIN were obviously influenced by many industrial dance bands. You cant reduce them to a skinny puppy rip off. that would be an insult to both bands...
ginsushark 2 years ago 8
Smartest comment yet, despite the fact that I'm a Puppy fan and don't really listen to NIN. This point, I think, is valid.
Missvivicide 2 years ago
stop fighting guys..we're above this..WE WERE UP ABOVE IT
mauyaaahahhahahaa
msa1985 2 years ago 3
I was down in it
monster5o 2 years ago
@monster5o
Well, NOW you are, anyway.
msa1985 2 years ago
rain rain go away....
JANXDPDX 2 years ago
If it wasn't for this song, NIN wouldn't of even existed you know...
007ToxicVenom 2 years ago
good artists borrow, great artists (ie. Trent Reznor) steal.
mcveenman 2 years ago 4
cut the down in it shit... anyone whom consider's themselves a fan of either band knows the hoopla surrounding the issue. stop freaking out like fanboys and arguing about it 21 years later
ktsITTE 2 years ago
Trent Reznor himself said "Down In It" was a total ripoff of this song. I only agree with the beat, though.
Still, there are many songs that share the same beat, so why would that be considered a ripoff?
Cipher32X 2 years ago
seeing them at the troc soon
YayMeYayMeYayMe 2 years ago
i saw Skinny Puppy in 1988 (or was it 87?) in Pittsburgh and NIN opened for them, well, a very embryonic version of NIN. I'm sure Trent was hugely influenced beat wise, but Down In It is a very different song. By then SP had moved much further away from anything danceable.
beatricethecat 2 years ago
Dig it kicks the shit out of Down in it
Deathkill06 2 years ago 3
Not only does it kick the shit out of it, It also mounts that lame wannabe and "Dig's It' "Down In It" and BREAKS IT ALL IN THAT ASS!!!!
Spasmolyticz 2 years ago
Fucking awesome... Ohgr's voice sounds funny :D but freakin cold :D
GqFq 2 years ago
All you BEACHES' gett off Utube and go out and go see da SkINNY pUPPY live and then come back and post your comments, "K" !!!!
CUNTSEE 2 years ago 5
why do people keep complaining about down in it and this song. They're not that similar. they have their similar aspects, but not really. Trent really doesn't seem like somebody who would intentionally copy somebody else's music.
zappafreak01 2 years ago
Trenty Reznor was listening to this song when he wrote it :D
I do agree they're not that similar... just the beat.
Justasickpuppy 2 years ago 4
In December 2009:
Texas welcomes SKINNY PUPPY!!!!
performz28 2 years ago
Thats Real EBM Oldschool !!!! LOVE IT ;) !!!
sonnymannheim 2 years ago 2
This song influenced Trent to write Down In It.
auschelsea 2 years ago 5
Down in it ripped this off!
oneUNITED7SS 2 years ago
Yeah not only did he rip it off but he completely ruined it with fucking terrible lyrics.
ThePixelParadox 2 years ago 2
dig it > down in it
ThePixelParadox 2 years ago
What do you think the video means?
teargirl23 2 years ago
Does it really matter?
ThePixelParadox 2 years ago 4
Life's a Game
mellisb 2 years ago 3
i'm seeing skinny puppy in november can't fucking wait
elilink2000 2 years ago
Me to in Georgia.
Headsetjones 2 years ago
Nasty song....but true,,
headz51230 2 years ago
your wear your influences on your sleeve. explore.
blotchproject 2 years ago 3
Some on your skin
MrD2709 2 years ago
You know, Trent himself said in an interview that Down In It was kind of a knock off of this. Not dissing anyone, just saying. It kind of is. No ones better though.
BackwardsT 2 years ago 5
It's funny to hear all the Trent defenders trashing S.P. (my band is NIN, has been for years) since the man himself goes out of his way to salute anybody doing things like him: totally boosting Marilyn Manson onto the scene, getting Peter Murphy and Gary Numan into his last concerts, giving people somewhere else to look since he's not going to be making music for a while, promoting new bands.
xxxhens 2 years ago 9
Why do people always argue about who's better? There's no point. NIN are great, Ministry are great, Skinny Puppy are great. Stop moaning and enjoy some decent tunes
hannibalsloat 2 years ago 18
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GIRAFFEBUTTERFLYSEX 2 years ago
Skinny Puppy's website just released the tour dates of their "IN SOLVENT SEE" tour which begins in october 30th 2009!!
performz28 2 years ago
DIG IT. DIG IT.
Freedom... as an offering!!!!!
ThePoisonDoor 2 years ago 2
Skinny Puppy is a Canadian band, formed in Vancouver, British Columbia in 1982.
thank you.
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