53 comments and all I see are discussions between weiseang72 and barakukaku three months ago. A forum thread would have been a better place for this sort of debate.
We comment back this video issue 'Jabatan Perdana Menteri and Suhakam' already ask demonstrates on hold and why it continue? Do you think this still fair?I hope la you understand!!
WE are not living in heaven where all people are treated fairly.If u want to talk about fairness, I think the communist have done it, but still not applicable to everybody. I hope u understand
haha this time you pusing until communist.....first I didn't mention I want 100% fairness and I hope it at least have improvement from it and not like what we saw in this video.Now already 2007 and still got this kind of thing happen.
I agree also this not heaven but you know the ' position corruption ranking' in our country drop every year? don't tell me find out in BPR or it 'not easy' or here is not a heaven.I hope you understand also.
WE are not living in heaven where all people are treated fairly.If u want to talk about fairness, I think the communist have done it, but still not applicable to everybody. I hope u understand
you still can use 'heaven' issue argue with me,use la some logical way don't la say this non logical point,follow instruction this kind of thing no need go until heaven 1 la brother,of course I get what you mean only that I not agree with you in some issue.
Ya, I agree with you this not heaven but do you know that not because here is not heaven and this basic instruction from 'Jabatan Perdana Menteri and Suhakam' they also don't want to follow!!
Remember I not try to force you accept my fact but I hope you understand this is a real situation happen in our country but I didn't say it happen to all field but majority.
comment sense la this kind of issue because he caught in Australia and Evidence is so strong already unless some one try to stop BPR take an action or maybe BPR too 'busy' haha!!!
Are you agree with me if BPR check Tan Sri Muhd Taib from income tax department what he report every year and compare with his currently cash and property in hand,is it we will know the balance.....It is what you so call not easy?or you not agree my point check with income tax department?or again you want ask me find out in BPR?haha!!
when I say 'This totally unfair and I hope you understand it.' you reply with 'It like this bro...' this not mean you agree??????haha!!and thanks again for your reply
Yea, it can be done but. But not as EASY as u SAID. That is why Tan Sri Muhd Taib is under investigation. As I said to you. i hope understand. The statement i gave, have already proven that the govt is not double standard anybody. Haiyaa lu.
haiya from the first you said Tan Sri Muhd Taib resign is punishment.After I told you resign is not punishment and you suddenly say he under investigate. After I say already so many year and evidence is so clear and you ask me find out in BPR.
Second what you say is 'Yes bro, it can be done. Nothing is impossible. It is just maybe my way and and your way is different'.If you not agree you no need told me 'it can be done'.
It like this bro..., for me, sometimes it's easy for us to say this and that, or what is right and what is wrong, what they should do or what they shouldn't do. But, when it comes to real situation... i tell u things doesn't go that easy.
Yes I agree everyone have a different way and as long as it can settle this matter will consider a 'good way' but does it mean u agree with me the point i raise 'most poor people and rich people have a different standard when come to law enforcement'?haha!!If not you no need to mention you got your way and thanks for your reply.
Ya I know you didn't directly say that but indirectly you already agree with me.First if you not agree with me you will not say 'sometimes it's easy for us to say this and that, or what is right and what is wrong, what they should do or what they shouldn't do. But, when it comes to real situation... i tell u things doesn't go that easy'.
If you really want argue like that I also donno what want say with you. We all Malaysian and we hope Malaysia will success in 2020. In logical thinking you think that BPR already done their job? that why I say maybe 'Rich political People' got some so call 'special exclusion' .
My point is not argue with you whether go BPR find out or not....I just want let you know the double standard law enforce to out citizen. I hope you understand.
"...what action govt take to him?nothing and govt not even check where the money come from???..." = Datuk Seri Abdul Taib Mahmud has been asked to resign MEANS he lost his job MEANS action already TAKEN.
"..ya as you say the case is different so I also agree don't compare it but you are the one raise it..." - I raise it to reply and provide prove to your statement, on "...Is it rich people can avoid and poor people cannot avoid? Law only apply to poor people?.." :)
From your given statement i've mention above, that why I come with the reply... "Can you tell me what happended to Tan Sri Eric Chia?, What had happened to Datuk Tan Sri Abdul Taib Mahmud? and Datuk Seri Zulkipli Mat Nor? Are they the poor people?.." to reply to you statement saying that "law only apply to poor people". But its not. Got it? :)
I think you don't understand what is legal action....resign mean action already taken??Legal action mean Badan Pencegah Rasuah(BPR) should investigate and not just because he resign and close case!!! So I not agree with your opinion. Remember Malaysia have no law say punishment is 'resign the own job' and exclude all liability. I hope you understand!!
take some time investigation?are you sure?you sure the file still open?Datuk Anwar Ibrahim case already finish investigate and also came out from jail in 2004. Is it need such long time to investigate? Evidence is already there and why still need the time to investigate? I also know how to investigate just go Income Tax department check and everything will be clear. Is it so hard and need for so many years to investigate? you get my point.
I agree the story is not full. But why govt double standard to this type of issue? Is it rich people can avoid and poor people cannot avoid? Law only apply to poor people? who you want to vote is up to you, that is your basic right as a citizen in Malaysia. Sometime just think from other perception
First of all, thanks for your reply. First, like i have said before, the story was not full, and we didn't the know the real story. So how are we going to know that the govt double standard this issue. So, if its true that the rich people can avoid? Can you tell me what happended to Tan Sri Eric Chia?, What had happened to Datuk Tan Sri Abdul Taib Mahmud? and Datuk Seri Zulkipli Mat Nor? Are they the poor people?
We should know, on whose land are these people are staying? Did they stayed in Government land or their own land? If they are staying in their own land, i believe the Govt can't do anything.
ok any legal action to Datuk Sri Abdul Taib Mahmud? as far as I know is NO!! He only resign as Menteri Besar Selangor only!!! No legal action take again him!! This what i say!!! I agree with you maybe that is govt land and I only hate sometime govt have double standard...I hope you understand what I say.
Yea. I understand. You said Datuk Seri Abdul Taib Mahmud had to resign as Menteri Besar means he lost his job. That means actions taken on him, and Datuk Sri Abdul Taib Mahmud didn't stay in govt land, how the govt is goin to break his house? Ok?
Datuk Seri Abdul Taib Mahmud case and the Kampung Berembang case is a different case. But what we can see here, there are actions taken on both cases. So, what else do we want??? :)
what action govt take to him?nothing and govt not even check where the money come from??? ya as you say the case is different so I also agree don't compare it but you are the one raise it. Why Jabatan Perdana Menteri ask them stop the action temporary but Menteri Besar ignore it?? what happen to our country? who false in this matter?
Malaysia isn't a place for normal human to stay anymore ....sad....
Naoki2009 3 years ago
53 comments and all I see are discussions between weiseang72 and barakukaku three months ago. A forum thread would have been a better place for this sort of debate.
BurungMerpati 4 years ago
We comment back this video issue 'Jabatan Perdana Menteri and Suhakam' already ask demonstrates on hold and why it continue? Do you think this still fair?I hope la you understand!!
weiseang72 4 years ago
WE are not living in heaven where all people are treated fairly.If u want to talk about fairness, I think the communist have done it, but still not applicable to everybody. I hope u understand
barakukaku 4 years ago
haha this time you pusing until communist.....first I didn't mention I want 100% fairness and I hope it at least have improvement from it and not like what we saw in this video.Now already 2007 and still got this kind of thing happen.
weiseang72 4 years ago
I agree also this not heaven but you know the ' position corruption ranking' in our country drop every year? don't tell me find out in BPR or it 'not easy' or here is not a heaven.I hope you understand also.
weiseang72 4 years ago
WE are not living in heaven where all people are treated fairly.If u want to talk about fairness, I think the communist have done it, but still not applicable to everybody. I hope u understand
barakukaku 4 years ago
Now u get what mean. hahahahha...
barakukaku 4 years ago
you still can use 'heaven' issue argue with me,use la some logical way don't la say this non logical point,follow instruction this kind of thing no need go until heaven 1 la brother,of course I get what you mean only that I not agree with you in some issue.
weiseang72 4 years ago
Ya, I agree with you this not heaven but do you know that not because here is not heaven and this basic instruction from 'Jabatan Perdana Menteri and Suhakam' they also don't want to follow!!
weiseang72 4 years ago
Remember I not try to force you accept my fact but I hope you understand this is a real situation happen in our country but I didn't say it happen to all field but majority.
weiseang72 4 years ago
Maybe if you got friend is lawyer or judge you can ask them what is so 'not easy' in this issue and they will told you the same thing as I told you.
weiseang72 4 years ago
comment sense la this kind of issue because he caught in Australia and Evidence is so strong already unless some one try to stop BPR take an action or maybe BPR too 'busy' haha!!!
weiseang72 4 years ago
After that I say is not the matter of BPR and you say thing is not so easy....haiyo you don't try 'pusing pusing' la :P
weiseang72 4 years ago
go to BPR and find out, u will know it was east or not. :)
barakukaku 4 years ago
I did't pusing, it just u didn't know what is going on. I hope u understand.
barakukaku 4 years ago
Are you agree with me if BPR check Tan Sri Muhd Taib from income tax department what he report every year and compare with his currently cash and property in hand,is it we will know the balance.....It is what you so call not easy?or you not agree my point check with income tax department?or again you want ask me find out in BPR?haha!!
weiseang72 4 years ago
I didn't pusing, it just u didn't know what is going on. I hope u understand.
barakukaku 4 years ago
when I say 'This totally unfair and I hope you understand it.' you reply with 'It like this bro...' this not mean you agree??????haha!!and thanks again for your reply
weiseang72 4 years ago
Yea, it can be done but. But not as EASY as u SAID. That is why Tan Sri Muhd Taib is under investigation. As I said to you. i hope understand. The statement i gave, have already proven that the govt is not double standard anybody. Haiyaa lu.
barakukaku 4 years ago
haiya from the first you said Tan Sri Muhd Taib resign is punishment.After I told you resign is not punishment and you suddenly say he under investigate. After I say already so many year and evidence is so clear and you ask me find out in BPR.
weiseang72 4 years ago
Second what you say is 'Yes bro, it can be done. Nothing is impossible. It is just maybe my way and and your way is different'.If you not agree you no need told me 'it can be done'.
weiseang72 4 years ago
This totally unfair and I hope you understand it.
weiseang72 4 years ago
It like this bro..., for me, sometimes it's easy for us to say this and that, or what is right and what is wrong, what they should do or what they shouldn't do. But, when it comes to real situation... i tell u things doesn't go that easy.
barakukaku 4 years ago
ya brother I agree with you not easy but it not mean cannot done at all and we should try!!
weiseang72 4 years ago
Yes bro, it can be done. Nothing is impossible. It is just maybe my way and and your way is different.
barakukaku 4 years ago
We both are concern with our country. I can see that. It just our way are different.
barakukaku 4 years ago
Yes I agree everyone have a different way and as long as it can settle this matter will consider a 'good way' but does it mean u agree with me the point i raise 'most poor people and rich people have a different standard when come to law enforcement'?haha!!If not you no need to mention you got your way and thanks for your reply.
weiseang72 4 years ago
I didn't say that. :)
barakukaku 4 years ago
Ya I know you didn't directly say that but indirectly you already agree with me.First if you not agree with me you will not say 'sometimes it's easy for us to say this and that, or what is right and what is wrong, what they should do or what they shouldn't do. But, when it comes to real situation... i tell u things doesn't go that easy'.
weiseang72 4 years ago
So,if u want it really fast, just go and become BPR la.
barakukaku 4 years ago
ok then you know what is reasonable test? and in your opinion how long it need to take? one year? 10 years? or 20 years?
weiseang72 4 years ago
you know Tan Sri Mohd Taib case already how many years?so what do you think how many year we still need to wait for investigation?
weiseang72 4 years ago
Like I said to you, if you want it really fast. just go and become BPR or you yourself go to BPR and find out.
barakukaku 4 years ago
But makesure u are clean la. :)
barakukaku 4 years ago
If you really want argue like that I also donno what want say with you. We all Malaysian and we hope Malaysia will success in 2020. In logical thinking you think that BPR already done their job? that why I say maybe 'Rich political People' got some so call 'special exclusion' .
weiseang72 4 years ago
Go to BPR and find out
barakukaku 4 years ago
My point is not argue with you whether go BPR find out or not....I just want let you know the double standard law enforce to out citizen. I hope you understand.
weiseang72 4 years ago
What are you talking about?
barakukaku 4 years ago
"...what action govt take to him?nothing and govt not even check where the money come from???..." = Datuk Seri Abdul Taib Mahmud has been asked to resign MEANS he lost his job MEANS action already TAKEN.
barakukaku 4 years ago
"..ya as you say the case is different so I also agree don't compare it but you are the one raise it..." - I raise it to reply and provide prove to your statement, on "...Is it rich people can avoid and poor people cannot avoid? Law only apply to poor people?.." :)
barakukaku 4 years ago
From your given statement i've mention above, that why I come with the reply... "Can you tell me what happended to Tan Sri Eric Chia?, What had happened to Datuk Tan Sri Abdul Taib Mahmud? and Datuk Seri Zulkipli Mat Nor? Are they the poor people?.." to reply to you statement saying that "law only apply to poor people". But its not. Got it? :)
barakukaku 4 years ago
I think you don't understand what is legal action....resign mean action already taken??Legal action mean Badan Pencegah Rasuah(BPR) should investigate and not just because he resign and close case!!! So I not agree with your opinion. Remember Malaysia have no law say punishment is 'resign the own job' and exclude all liability. I hope you understand!!
weiseang72 4 years ago
He's under investigation now. We wait and see. Maybe take some time.
barakukaku 4 years ago
take some time investigation?are you sure?you sure the file still open?Datuk Anwar Ibrahim case already finish investigate and also came out from jail in 2004. Is it need such long time to investigate? Evidence is already there and why still need the time to investigate? I also know how to investigate just go Income Tax department check and everything will be clear. Is it so hard and need for so many years to investigate? you get my point.
weiseang72 4 years ago
I agree the story is not full. But why govt double standard to this type of issue? Is it rich people can avoid and poor people cannot avoid? Law only apply to poor people? who you want to vote is up to you, that is your basic right as a citizen in Malaysia. Sometime just think from other perception
weiseang72 4 years ago
First of all, thanks for your reply. First, like i have said before, the story was not full, and we didn't the know the real story. So how are we going to know that the govt double standard this issue. So, if its true that the rich people can avoid? Can you tell me what happended to Tan Sri Eric Chia?, What had happened to Datuk Tan Sri Abdul Taib Mahmud? and Datuk Seri Zulkipli Mat Nor? Are they the poor people?
barakukaku 4 years ago
We should know, on whose land are these people are staying? Did they stayed in Government land or their own land? If they are staying in their own land, i believe the Govt can't do anything.
barakukaku 4 years ago
ok any legal action to Datuk Sri Abdul Taib Mahmud? as far as I know is NO!! He only resign as Menteri Besar Selangor only!!! No legal action take again him!! This what i say!!! I agree with you maybe that is govt land and I only hate sometime govt have double standard...I hope you understand what I say.
weiseang72 4 years ago
Yea. I understand. You said Datuk Seri Abdul Taib Mahmud had to resign as Menteri Besar means he lost his job. That means actions taken on him, and Datuk Sri Abdul Taib Mahmud didn't stay in govt land, how the govt is goin to break his house? Ok?
barakukaku 4 years ago
Datuk Seri Abdul Taib Mahmud case and the Kampung Berembang case is a different case. But what we can see here, there are actions taken on both cases. So, what else do we want??? :)
barakukaku 4 years ago
what action govt take to him?nothing and govt not even check where the money come from??? ya as you say the case is different so I also agree don't compare it but you are the one raise it. Why Jabatan Perdana Menteri ask them stop the action temporary but Menteri Besar ignore it?? what happen to our country? who false in this matter?
weiseang72 4 years ago
should you all still want vote for BN for next general election after see this? think about that!!
weiseang72 5 years ago
Yes, we will still vote for BN. What have been shown were only part of the story. Not the full story from the begining on how it happens.
barakukaku 4 years ago
I hope one day this will not happen to you.
weiseang72 4 years ago