Am I the only one that finds it ironic that their videos are on the EMI channel when John wrote the Sex Pistols song EMI about his distaste for the company and spoke out against them in interviews?
This is catchy and good (and I don't slag off later PiL like some fans) but I prefer old school, experimental PiL. Check out Second Edition, First Issue, Commercial Zone and Flowers of Romance for some good early PiL. Go-to songs include "Public Image," "Death Disco/Swan Lake," "Poptones," "Careering," "Flowers of Romance," "Annalisa,""Religion II," "Banging the Door," and basically every song on Commercial Zone (particularly "Bad Night" and "Love Song"). All these songs are on youtube.
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The only reason the name Seattle is connected to this song is that we wrote the music there, in a hotel room and that was the working title. No doubt that the name, eventually, as John wrote the lyrics, inspired the opening line!
Anybody comparing the Madchester scene to the Seattle scene is clueless. Carbon copy? Seriously? Just because a city has a flourishing music scene and creates a buzz doesn't mean they have anything in common. Also to say the UK will always beat the US for the rock crown is ludicrous. I love British music as much as anyone but we invented rock and roll for crying out loud. People please remove your head from your ass before you write such nonsense. 3 bands: Pixies, Replacements, Husker Du. Cheers
Anyone who can provide a link to anything John Lydon ever said in reference to this song (ie. an interview where he speaks specifically about the inspiration or meaning of the lyrics for this song), would be greatly appreciated. I lived in the city for 6 years and the lyrics are suspiciously relevant to the creepiness of both the people and the city itself. There is something very very wrong going on there.
@SumFungi Don't have the link where I saw the quote, I read him give a brief explanation saying the band got stuck there for a couple days somehow, they were deathly bored with the town and he wrote the song.
Seattle is just a fairly generic American city, like fifty other American cities. But with crappy weather, interstate highways, Burger Kings, shopping malls and so on.
I'm with the Brits on this one. I'll take Manchester over Seattle any day. Manchester gave us the Hacienda, which gave us the Happy Mondays and E. Seattle gave us grunge, which gave us Nickelback. Now which would you rather have: An E or a Nickelback CD?
It's a no-brainer. And I lived in Seattle for two years.
@youruglyandfaggy None other, but that doesn't justify how overrated the town is. As I said, London and Manchester are more important than Seattle (also explains why when it comes to Rock Music, UK will always beat the US)
@sinnergy73 Nationalist? I'm not from the UK, FYI. I can respect Hendrix... but the grunge movement making Seattle a far better music capital than Manchester or London? Grunge was a carbon copy of Madchester, only more famous because "it's the US", just so you know.
@heyufool1 yOU ARE 100% CORRECT I hate autotune bullshit, Gone are the days were talent was a precursor to fame. Lady GAG GAG and all her ilk suck. get it out get it out get it out of my world!!!!
@Arrow69hunter - Um, your forgetting the wealth of shit around during the 60s/70/80s/90s - The only difference now is there not much good stuff to balance it. Stock/Aitken/Waterman anyone?
Saw PiL twice only. First at Massey Hall in Toronto (198?) and then with the Sugarcubes and New Order (1989). Strange triple bill but still a good show..
@skouf007 Yes the show was a bit incongruous but great nonetheless. As mush as I enjoyed PIL, I was there to see New Order and they killed it. It made my year. Strange that the Violent Femmes closed the show in my town though. The Sugarcubes and the Femmes were the bookends. It doesn't get much stranger than that.
The pistols were a fluke. This is probably the most dated and completely empty music I've seen come out of a man who's demonstrated such obvious talent. I frankly only listen to this because of the hipsterish irony of listening to lame 1980s new wave songs. Other than that it is empty music, devoid of energy, charisma or staying power.
If you read Our Band Could Be Your Life, it talks about one of the Seattle bands (Mudhoney I think) trashing Lyndon on stage. So I guess this was his response to that. Not many bands liked playing with PiL when they found out how much of an ass Lyndon was (in their opinion).
Theories were abundant in Seattle to what this song was about when it was released, but the video is no help at all as not a single shot of Seattle is in the whole thing. There was some rumor that he made it after getting punk'd by Green River when they opened for him around 86, but he doesn't reference the incident at all.
@albatross1977 I wish I could find more info on it. I read about it eons ago in "The Rocket", which was the local Seattle Music magazine until around 1992 or so ("The Stranger" pretty much killed it). The rumor was that Green River raided his backstage area, stole his fancy British beer, stuff like that, etc.
Ahhh, memories of 1987-1988, junior in high school, driving to the beach with this cassette blaring out of crappy ass Kraco stereo system! hahahaha "Open & Revolving" was my favorite song off the album... hey I see someone mentioned PiL's touring again, I'll have to check into that and go see Mr. Lydon again for the umpteenth time. Good stuff
Being from Seattle, and having seen them there... I understood that he wrote the song after having his favorite armchair, that he used to tour with, stolen in Seattle .... lordy knows ~
No. He wrote this based on a documentary on drug addicts in Seattle. Predated grunge. Forgot the title of that film. Did see the show where Green River opened. I remember Mark Arm saying, "We met Johnny Rotten backstage, and while I was butt-fucking him, all he could say was "God Save The Queen." ALBUM tour. Fuck Mark Arm. Old Seattle loser.
I am either old, jaded or brain damaged but what on earth does this have to do with Seattle?? Is there a Seattle in the UK? I love Johnny and have for more years than I care to think but I don't get the Seattle reference.
From what I remember reading years ago, PIL played a show in Seatle with Green River? The U-Men? The Melvins? one of those bands opened up for them. Anyhow, Lydon was of coursing being his usual snotty self, the opening bands we're bummed out, and they trashed his dressing room. Something like that anyways. He was so inspired by the incident he wrote this.
brilliant song always Johnny Rotten is a genius.wish I'd written this song. I've been to Seattle and, although I LOVE Nirvana,[R.I.P. Kurt Cobain] it is a VERY BORING TOWN!!
Sounds so much like 'there's more to life than 'bling' to me' . HA HA, My lyrics are always better. When he's saying 'this mortal life can bring to me'.
Indeed John McGeoch, you are best guitarst of the 80's and inspired many...
2428steve 1 day ago
has 0 to do with the city it's named for. wtf
Hot80s 3 days ago
i want to bend jonny over my knee and smack his bare white butt. Id bite it and lick it too
JailWeddings 1 week ago
@PuppetDani Ah right, maybe I'll sing it more accurately now!
fuckweed 1 week ago
"What goes up must come down". Os conflitos em Seattle, em 1999, mostraram que essa música era premonitória mesmo sendo de 1989!
arqpita 2 weeks ago
Palaces, Barricades, threats, Meet Promises. Love it. So infectious it's almost toxic
fuckweed 3 weeks ago
@fuckweed greed promises
PuppetDani 1 week ago
Am I the only one that finds it ironic that their videos are on the EMI channel when John wrote the Sex Pistols song EMI about his distaste for the company and spoke out against them in interviews?
If someone could explain this I'd be thrilled.
switchbladejohnnygrl 3 weeks ago 3
@switchbladejohnnygrl Simple, there is no such thing as bad publicity..I never really cared who EMI were until I heard that Sex Pistols song.
crusherbmx 2 weeks ago
did you guys n\know they are working on a new album! it should be out lat 2012
deftones311100 2 months ago
A strangely charismatic and photogenic man, is Johnny Rotten.
LiveCrueltyFreeNow 2 months ago
this song is so cool, but man is johnny boy ugly or what? ha ha ha
ingaros74 2 months ago
Is that Pat Metheney?
MsCellolad 2 months ago
Johnny Rotten, that is one big suit.
cadeeshak 3 months ago
fuck la PUB
airvee 3 months ago
SEX PISTOLS!
sacrottt 4 months ago in playlist YouTube Mix for Public Image Ltd.
tis` been a favorite song for years Brilliant
AWYMARI3HORN 4 months ago
R.I.P John McGeoch... We miss you man. Music ain't the same anymore without you....
modsleix6 5 months ago 7
PALACES PALACES BARRICADES BARRICADES
Ramonajunie3 5 months ago
i'm going to somehow climb onto the roof of the school, blast this, and throw melons near where people are walking.
That's my plan to be queen of the school. :3
Ramonajunie3 5 months ago
just got happy? on cassette
anarchy4life12 5 months ago
This song and entire Happy? album has some kind of magic for me
niktusacid 5 months ago
This band should not have vevo
KingxJamie 5 months ago
Johnny could be a perfect Joker in a batman's film
Seiryuto 5 months ago 17
@Seiryuto he was actually the inspiration for the look of the joker
MrBurb3rry 2 months ago
@Seiryuto haha perfect.
citizenjlk 2 days ago
I wish I was alive in '89 (so I could see the New Order/PIL tour)
ItsAboutGreatButter 6 months ago
@ItsAboutGreatButter I know! New Order AND PiL? Man that sounds like a dream come true.
PostPunkFan 5 months ago
This is catchy and good (and I don't slag off later PiL like some fans) but I prefer old school, experimental PiL. Check out Second Edition, First Issue, Commercial Zone and Flowers of Romance for some good early PiL. Go-to songs include "Public Image," "Death Disco/Swan Lake," "Poptones," "Careering," "Flowers of Romance," "Annalisa,""Religion II," "Banging the Door," and basically every song on Commercial Zone (particularly "Bad Night" and "Love Song"). All these songs are on youtube.
PostPunkFan 6 months ago
Production doesn't ruin a message if there's a message to begin with.
xnonsuchx 6 months ago
mcgeoch made pil better, as good as levene. RIP man, you were awesome
The300x300 6 months ago 2
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PostPunkFan 6 months ago
LOVE THIS SONG!!!
krystalkakes35 6 months ago
I do not know why these guyz name this song "Seattle". I saw them in the late 80s when they came through here in Seattle.
koldfushen 6 months ago
the most infulental bands of the 80s. good to see them back
ljwjfac110369 7 months ago
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innercitygritrecords 7 months ago
FILTHY LUCRE!
littleboeep 7 months ago
Just the right amount of "pop" in this - accessible progressive.
leftdust 8 months ago
Get out of the Rock 'N' Roll World Yanks!
Brits rule in this genre!
JackBandicootsBunker 8 months ago
One of many PIL´s pearls
Johnny´s attitude always amaze me... it´s 100% crazy, genuine, straight...
niktusacid 8 months ago
O man I hope I can catch the next Pil show! Wall of Voodoo and Pil would be killer!
TheCrypticjosh 9 months ago
The only reason the name Seattle is connected to this song is that we wrote the music there, in a hotel room and that was the working title. No doubt that the name, eventually, as John wrote the lyrics, inspired the opening line!
allanricharddias 9 months ago 2
Anybody comparing the Madchester scene to the Seattle scene is clueless. Carbon copy? Seriously? Just because a city has a flourishing music scene and creates a buzz doesn't mean they have anything in common. Also to say the UK will always beat the US for the rock crown is ludicrous. I love British music as much as anyone but we invented rock and roll for crying out loud. People please remove your head from your ass before you write such nonsense. 3 bands: Pixies, Replacements, Husker Du. Cheers
captaindaring 9 months ago
FUCK EMI
plushoom 9 months ago
Anyone who can provide a link to anything John Lydon ever said in reference to this song (ie. an interview where he speaks specifically about the inspiration or meaning of the lyrics for this song), would be greatly appreciated. I lived in the city for 6 years and the lyrics are suspiciously relevant to the creepiness of both the people and the city itself. There is something very very wrong going on there.
SumFungi 9 months ago
@SumFungi Don't have the link where I saw the quote, I read him give a brief explanation saying the band got stuck there for a couple days somehow, they were deathly bored with the town and he wrote the song.
inkjetresurrection 8 months ago
Seattle is crying today... hahahahahaha
JackBandicootsBunker 9 months ago
Seattle is just a fairly generic American city, like fifty other American cities. But with crappy weather, interstate highways, Burger Kings, shopping malls and so on.
wa2ise 10 months ago
@wa2ise Yeah, like every other American city doesn't have crappy weather, interstate highways, Burger Kings and shopping malls.
Person1036 9 months ago
I'm with the Brits on this one. I'll take Manchester over Seattle any day. Manchester gave us the Hacienda, which gave us the Happy Mondays and E. Seattle gave us grunge, which gave us Nickelback. Now which would you rather have: An E or a Nickelback CD?
It's a no-brainer. And I lived in Seattle for two years.
PopeSalty1 10 months ago
I wonder if Johnny Rotten shit his pants when he found out that vevo was corrupting his music.
captaindaring 10 months ago 3
@captaindaring
FUCK VEVO
plushoom 9 months ago
COOL SONG ^^
RayRoark2009 11 months ago
Nice way of showing hatred towards what I think is the most OVERRATED town and music factory ever on the music industry.
Musically, Seattle will always be the shadow of what London and Manchester were, specially during the 90's.
As for the song, just like almost any PIL song, it's simply AMAZING.
JackBandicootsBunker 11 months ago
@JackBandicootsBunker I agree with the music part, BUT I do enjoy living in Seattle...
Metalhead732 11 months ago
@Metalhead732 I don't have a reason to go against a part of Seattle's population, just the overratedness of said town, musically.
JackBandicootsBunker 11 months ago
@JackBandicootsBunker what other city in america puts out as much music as seattle has
youruglyandfaggy 10 months ago
@youruglyandfaggy None other, but that doesn't justify how overrated the town is. As I said, London and Manchester are more important than Seattle (also explains why when it comes to Rock Music, UK will always beat the US)
JackBandicootsBunker 10 months ago
@JackBandicootsBunker Apparently you've never heard of Jimi Hendrix or Kurt Cobain...sounds like nationalist bullocks to me.
sinnergy73 10 months ago
@sinnergy73 Nationalist? I'm not from the UK, FYI. I can respect Hendrix... but the grunge movement making Seattle a far better music capital than Manchester or London? Grunge was a carbon copy of Madchester, only more famous because "it's the US", just so you know.
JackBandicootsBunker 10 months ago
@JackBandicootsBunker
ahaha, what?? Grunge sounds nothing like Madchester music.
Darkiver 10 months ago
@Darkiver The movement itself, culturally speaking, is a carbon-copy out of Madchester.
JackBandicootsBunker 10 months ago
@JackBandicootsBunker sorry, minneapolis, the replacements speak for themselves.
crlumberjack 9 months ago
@crlumberjack Not enough to go against London and Manchester...
JackBandicootsBunker 9 months ago
@youruglyandfaggy Minneapolis
halation777 10 months ago
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incpuable 11 months ago
Yeah, today's music all sounds like a badly compressed mp3 file. Yuck, and autotune also sounds like crap...I gave up on new music around 1994... :-)
wa2ise 11 months ago 2
Happy Birthday Johnny.....stay outta trouble......:-)
HippieJimi 1 year ago
i would wiswh VEVO would DIE
luckygarbo1 1 year ago 2
So i got to a PIL video and the advertisement is some bitch with red hair using some autotune bullshit... What the fuck is the world coming to?
heyufool1 1 year ago
@heyufool1 yOU ARE 100% CORRECT I hate autotune bullshit, Gone are the days were talent was a precursor to fame. Lady GAG GAG and all her ilk suck. get it out get it out get it out of my world!!!!
Arrow69hunter 1 year ago
@Arrow69hunter - Um, your forgetting the wealth of shit around during the 60s/70/80s/90s - The only difference now is there not much good stuff to balance it. Stock/Aitken/Waterman anyone?
piginasack 11 months ago
Saw PiL twice only. First at Massey Hall in Toronto (198?) and then with the Sugarcubes and New Order (1989). Strange triple bill but still a good show..
skouf007 1 year ago
@skouf007 Yes the show was a bit incongruous but great nonetheless. As mush as I enjoyed PIL, I was there to see New Order and they killed it. It made my year. Strange that the Violent Femmes closed the show in my town though. The Sugarcubes and the Femmes were the bookends. It doesn't get much stranger than that.
captaindaring 9 months ago
1 person needs to Get Outta My World! haha
ACF417 1 year ago
@obnoxiousnickname listens to Nickelback
litmus0001 1 year ago
The pistols were a fluke. This is probably the most dated and completely empty music I've seen come out of a man who's demonstrated such obvious talent. I frankly only listen to this because of the hipsterish irony of listening to lame 1980s new wave songs. Other than that it is empty music, devoid of energy, charisma or staying power.
obnoxiousnickname 1 year ago
@obnoxiousnickname Then my friend go and listen to Wham . Probably wore the t-shirt hey buddy?
shazmin41 1 year ago
as in as out we never stay the same
modernman12345 1 year ago
I NEVER get tired of this.
Leighbo1 1 year ago
Look mummy, it's the butter salesman!
MrSeventhElement 1 year ago 5
BIZARRE LYDON !!!
wagsouza 1 year ago
just remember JOHN LYDON IS A TORY!
musicmasterliam 1 year ago
If you read Our Band Could Be Your Life, it talks about one of the Seattle bands (Mudhoney I think) trashing Lyndon on stage. So I guess this was his response to that. Not many bands liked playing with PiL when they found out how much of an ass Lyndon was (in their opinion).
RootDown18 1 year ago
@RootDown18
Well, Lyndon is so up his own ass. I don't blame Mudhoney for messing with him. As much as I love P.I.L. and Sex Pistols, Johnny is such a douche.
SuperUnison92 1 year ago
Theories were abundant in Seattle to what this song was about when it was released, but the video is no help at all as not a single shot of Seattle is in the whole thing. There was some rumor that he made it after getting punk'd by Green River when they opened for him around 86, but he doesn't reference the incident at all.
danielsimonon 1 year ago
@danielsimonon i wanna learn more about that incident
albatross1977 1 year ago
@albatross1977 I wish I could find more info on it. I read about it eons ago in "The Rocket", which was the local Seattle Music magazine until around 1992 or so ("The Stranger" pretty much killed it). The rumor was that Green River raided his backstage area, stole his fancy British beer, stuff like that, etc.
danielsimonon 1 year ago
Never gets old does it?
ronniedoll 1 year ago 2
An absolute genius!!
kangfesher 1 year ago
"Palaces (palaces), barricades (barricades), threats (treats), meet promises (meet promises)"
IDontKnow733 1 year ago
I used to play this song every morning before I went to school when I was 18... God I miss those days.... LOVE this song so much..
badlydrawnkristi 1 year ago 2
@badlydrawnkristi I'm doing that nowadays before uni!!! Timeless :- D
autoforthepeople 1 year ago
Thank you Johnny !
unmedication 1 year ago
Rotten you're a fucking madman. It takes some real guts to bring punk to mainstream popularity and then go off and make a new wave band
obnoxiousnickname 1 year ago 3
I'm all for PIL and the Wall of Voodoo!
autoforthepeople 1 year ago
@autoforthepeople Agreed! Stan Ridgway from Wall of Voodoo is a genius! Or at least really, really cool!
BadgerPat 1 year ago 2
love this song.
zackz22 1 year ago
This video is a quick shot fest!
piginasack 1 year ago
love PiL
johnbyronartist 2 years ago
Ahhh, memories of 1987-1988, junior in high school, driving to the beach with this cassette blaring out of crappy ass Kraco stereo system! hahahaha "Open & Revolving" was my favorite song off the album... hey I see someone mentioned PiL's touring again, I'll have to check into that and go see Mr. Lydon again for the umpteenth time. Good stuff
fishtacojunkie 2 years ago
Geeeeeeet outttta myyyy world!!!!! good stuff!
FlabbyCelt 2 years ago
Love this!
MyNameIsShelby 2 years ago
For the first 17 in 17 years, PIL is doing shows again. Don't miss them!!!!
My dream convert would be PIL and Wall of Voodoo.
RZKarter 2 years ago 24
Nice choice...!
piginasack 1 year ago
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Blank1Reg73 1 year ago
Too bad Marc Moreland and Joe Nanini are now dead. Wall of Voodoo and PIL together would have been great!
Blank1Reg73 1 year ago
I wish there was a radio station that would only play PIL.
IhateNZ 2 years ago 40
Once upon a time KCMU (now KEXP) and 107.7 would play them
nwcoastlife 2 years ago
@IhateNZ SIRUS SATELITE RADIO" FIRST WAVE" CHANNEL 22. "SUNDAY DARK WAVE" 9:00p.m. TO1:00A.M .GOATH
Mrjoeypunkrock 1 year ago
@IhateNZ It's called Pandora :) (admittedly it DOES play a few other things but it will deliver what you ask for!)
OneTruFu 10 months ago
@IhateNZ Just a suggestion, but try 'First Wave' channel 33 on SiriusXM. That's what brought me here...
juliadennehy 5 months ago
The song was written in a Seattle hotel room and it was a reference title that stuck!
allanricharddias 2 years ago
the owner of the worlds first sid cut made alot of good xenomorph workers;;lydon is a favourite!!!
a descendant of terra firma's first sea mammals;;-we will evolve the human species!!!
Ratt1971 2 years ago
Being from Seattle, and having seen them there... I understood that he wrote the song after having his favorite armchair, that he used to tour with, stolen in Seattle .... lordy knows ~
grayngreen 2 years ago
Aye - one of the great eccentrics.
RHutton2710 2 years ago
No. He wrote this based on a documentary on drug addicts in Seattle. Predated grunge. Forgot the title of that film. Did see the show where Green River opened. I remember Mark Arm saying, "We met Johnny Rotten backstage, and while I was butt-fucking him, all he could say was "God Save The Queen." ALBUM tour. Fuck Mark Arm. Old Seattle loser.
409E 2 years ago
I am either old, jaded or brain damaged but what on earth does this have to do with Seattle?? Is there a Seattle in the UK? I love Johnny and have for more years than I care to think but I don't get the Seattle reference.
Anyone care to explain please?
showtechnique 2 years ago
From what I remember reading years ago, PIL played a show in Seatle with Green River? The U-Men? The Melvins? one of those bands opened up for them. Anyhow, Lydon was of coursing being his usual snotty self, the opening bands we're bummed out, and they trashed his dressing room. Something like that anyways. He was so inspired by the incident he wrote this.
Bladerunner788 2 years ago
the name 'sean' can numerogicly calculated to 666(the written word is a lie!!!)
Ratt1971 2 years ago
brilliant song always Johnny Rotten is a genius.wish I'd written this song. I've been to Seattle and, although I LOVE Nirvana,[R.I.P. Kurt Cobain] it is a VERY BORING TOWN!!
Cobain9Musician76 2 years ago
To see what Johnny and others spawned, see me getting interviewed on tv 'interview with a vamp' on my home page here.
missxradio 2 years ago
2:04 always remember, Johnny.. dying your eyebrows is very dangerous.. of course his eyes survived it fine.
missxradio 2 years ago
Sounds so much like 'there's more to life than 'bling' to me' . HA HA, My lyrics are always better. When he's saying 'this mortal life can bring to me'.
missxradio 2 years ago
I didn't even know there was a video of this song until today. Anyone know what place on Billboards Hot 100 chart this went to?
daftchemicals 2 years ago
#47 Uk charts
Wikipedia!
Gonzalez2500 2 years ago
Got to LOVE Johnny....cannot believe there are not more people watching this...hmmm...love ya JL.
eedjal 2 years ago
I liked this LP back in the day , still have the CD though !
axxionman69 2 years ago