Omg, what a lunatic!! Seriously, only in America.. "Freedom requires reliigion" HAHA, bullshit. Religion is nothing but imaginative stories, I cannot believe how you can be so blind to be so dedicated to religion.
Ron Paul you dumb ass! Why don't you just vote for Mickey Mouse you idiot. This isn't the student council you brainless fool! This is the biggest job in the world and it requires major league executive experience that's not coming from Washington DC either. This guy has more executive experience than all the candidates running in either party, it isn't even close.
Ron Paul you dumb ass! Why don't you just vote for Mickey Mouse you idiot. This isn't the student council you brainless fool! This is the biggest job in the world and it requires major league executive experience that's not coming from Washington DC either. This guy has more executive experience than all the candidates running in either party, it isn't even close.
Ron Paul you dumb ass! Why don't you just vote for Mickey Mouse you idiot. This isn't the student council you brainless fool! This is the biggest job in the world and it requires major league executive experience that's not coming from Washington DC either. This guy has more executive experience than all the candidate running in either party. It isn't even close.
Ron Paul you dumb ass! Why don't you just vote for Mickey Mouse you idiot. This isn't the student council you brainless fool! This is the biggest job in the world and it requires major league executive experience that's not coming from Washington DC either. This guy has more executive experience than all the candidates running in either party, it isn't even close.
Well by that logic mime, the Bible is a fairy tale sales pitch for rape, polygamy, war, racism, genocide, theft, severe machismo/exploitation and degradation of women and other cultures through the ideas of inferiority, slavery, etc. etc. It really can go on all day.
well regardless of which book or all the books you call fairy tales, Mimesis have a good point. Its because of POLITICS. If Mitt addresses Mormonism & Christianity (read the 2 books, or just study the history behind the two) - he would HAVE to admit that they are NOT the same.
Freedom REQUIRES religion? That's the looniest thing I've ever heard. This man has led his life in a box, and he would make an awful president and only bring shame on America. He won't be able to relate to any other nation and he doesn't understand diplomacy.
We have twice pointed out that Romney in fact increased fees by around $500 million during his four years as governor. Romney's cuts in local aid also led indirectly to local tax increases (mainly in the form of property tax increases). Similarly, Romney's claim to have closed a $3 billion budget gap is exaggerated. In fact, the gap was closer to $1.2 billion [FactCheck site]
@luv4knowledge -- As late as 2005 & 2006, Romney made jokes like this? "I believe marriage should be between a man and a woman … and a woman … and a woman," Romney quipped at the 2005 St. Patrick's Day breakfast in Boston. He made the same joke on Don Imus' 2006 St. Patrick's Day show. Romney's family tree has lots of polygamy. and his father was born in Mexico. He's currently trying to convince the Tea Party he's a good Christian who will reduce the debt.
Most 'Republicans', 'Conservatives' and 'Fundamental Christians', could be legally and most certainly psychiatrically and medically, diagnosed as 'Sociopaths' and/or 'Psychopaths'. Not only that, but these people are 'Capitalistic Imperialistic Terrorists' who should be removed from America, they are ruining the United States of America, and they are ruining the World.
Smoke another joint you communist junky. Your not only wrong but your stupid. Your comments only deserve ridicule because your heart is filled with hate and you haven't a clue about America, NOT A CLUE!. I think you meant RUNNING, not ruining
People...there is NO freedom! We are all controlled somehow....what we have is supervised freedom. Please accept it, and move on. And stop cursing, be polite it won't take away from you, trust me,.
Mitt Romney "offered an eye-catching twist on his usual stump speech" when he praised Hezbollah's use of social services to win over the Lebanese [Washington Post 8/3/07]
Freedom does NOT need religion!! Animals, unless in cages, are free to go and eat and fuck what ever they want. People in Iraq were NOT free to worship they way they wanted. Now they are. Religion NEEDS (also see ALL of history..ie germans) freedom to survive.
Make no mistake American is great because people are FREE...FIRST!...and then do as they please.
Live free or die!! Pledge allegiance to the FLAG!!! Protect Lady Liberty!!
He'll change his tune if the polls don't swing his way. Unfortunately too many Americans like the sound of his voice and his looks so what he says goes in one ear and out the other.
Mormon underwear. I've ben told it is common practice to match these "sacred" undergarments with your tie. Alas, we can assume Mitt is wearing cerulean blue undergarments. Perhaps the banana-sling thong model, for this privileged occasion.
Neither was Lloyd Bentsen. JFK was not even the JFK that the Dems make him out to be. JFK was for tax cuts. Those words make Dems wet thier pants. Their knees uncontrollably jerk and the phrase automatically comes out "only for the rich, only for the rich" whenever they hear the phrase "tax cut".
Both Romney and Quayle are closer do that ideal than ANY Dem (including Teddy) can ever be. Even at that I would take Romney and Quayle long before I would even consider JFK.
Alba: Are you out of your mind!!Most republican call Dems 'tax and spenders'.Your so far off the mark you must be guessing at what to say.Dems 'pay as they go' by taxing the VERY rich, not the middle class, to pay for programs that will help everybody lift themselves(!!!) out of poverty.Republicans cut taxes,during war time(!),to the very rich and then sale credit to China for the middle class children to pay off.
Freedom does not require religion and if this monkey is going to use JFK's words he should be ready to use all of them, "Finally, I believe in an America where religious intolerance will someday end--where all men and all churches are treated as equal--where every man has the same right to attend or not attend the church of his choice."
Freedom does require religion because with out a sense of morality, you have anarchy. I believe strongly in capitalism but without morality, capitalism is cruel. Enron comes to mind.
There is no moral code in atheism. There is no book of standards of how to treat your fellow man. There are no repercussions for immorality in atheism. Maybe legally but the basis of our legal system stems from religion.
FU!. Religion does not own morality. So is ass fucking children moral? Go ask a priest that. mark foley and larry craig are both religious, conservative, republicans with some kind of morality from some kind of book. Is that the morality to which you speak? FU!! You need a book to be moral?!! FU!! I come by it naturally.
VetOrDie made a comment hoping "religious intolerance will someday end". I made my comment about those who cry for tolerance as being the most intolerant.
Then you jumped in and called me "sanctimonious little rodent" and proclaimed there is no religious intolerance.
Bingo! You proved my point.
I don't think I am all that "sanctimonious". I have lots of flaws. I like to argue online, against my better judgment, with people who I know will never agree and often insult me.
So, when Willard shows disrespect for Muslims, despite talking out the other side of his mouth about religious tolerance, you're fine with his hypocracy.
In all reality, I agree with you about people committing all sorts of atrocities in the name of God. They blaspheme His name by their actions.
Go to any of your semi-annual conferences in Salt Lake and you will see hordes of "Christians" picketing outside saying all sorts of atrocious things against my church and in the name of God. We don't picket anyone. Just stupid me, unable to keep my opinions to myself in the comment section of this video.
Members of the Mormon (LDS) church begin wearing garments after they have gone through the temple. In the temple, members of the church make covenants or promises to live a righteous life. The garment reminds them of the promise they have made even when they are not in the temple.
Doesn't that make you feel better about electing him as president? Just knowing he feels more secure because of his underpants?
Dude! What is your obsession with underwear? So LDS people who have been through the temple wear different underwear. What the big deal? And duh, if you know about it, obviously it is not "secret".
One Utahn profiting handsomely — albeit indirectly — from Romney's run is Don Stirling, whose e-mail sent last year to potential contributors created controversy about whether The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints was helping build support for Romney.
Stirling was a paid consultant to Romney, he wrote an e-mail to Deseret Book President Sherri Dew — which was later leaked to the Boston Globe newspaper — where he implied the LDS Church and a member of the Quorum of the Twelve suggested using lists of the BYU Management Society to organize Romney support.
I thought he vowed his church wouldn't influence him politically?
The visit happened between Dan Stirling and some of the LDS Church leaders but the rest of the story is false. There was no discussion of the LDS Church helping the Romney campaign.
It would be pointless for any candidate to ask the Church for support. The Church is adamant about its political neutrality.
The story you are quoting came from the Boston Globe. The Globe is not a friend of the Republican Party. They will print anything to denigrate a Republican.
Well yeah. Wouldn't you if all your life people want to verbally beat you up just because of your religion.
Whenever I meet an evangelical, I get real apprehensive about telling them I am LDS just because I don't want to go through that crap again.
At least I don't have to worry about losing my life like some of the early LDS Church members or early Christians. Although "once saved, always saved" means an evangelical can murder me and still be saved. Therefore, I better watch out. :-)
His beliefs in the message of tolerance and forgiveness from Jesus seems to be in conflict with his willingness to use "enhanced interrogation" on terrorism suspects.
not to mention he is intolerant of people that have no religion. And in a world so full have hate and destruction can we really blame people for losing or not having religion? Isn't that kind of 'blame' suppose to be left in the hands of ....god?
The American Jewish Committee became incensed when it was discovered that the Mormons had acquired the records of the Nazi "final solution," and were industriously baptizing what for once could truly be called a "lost tribe": the murdered Jews of Europe.
I don't know if this is the right place for it but since everybody's yakking about the speech I though I'd hoist this question up the flag and see if anybody salutes. My mother-in-law calls me after the speech yesterday asking me about the "latter day saints' deal and I found my self in the lurch-- I don't know where they might hail from. Can anybody post info apropos my mother-in-law's query? It would sure help things out at the house.
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints was founded in 1830 in Palmyra, NY. Persecution drove them from NY to eventually settle in Utah. That is where they hail from.
The phrase "Latter-day Saint" is because we believe we live in the last days and "Saint" to us is synonymous with "Christian" in meaning.
We are called "Mormons", originally by those who persecuted us, because of our belief in the Book of Mormon. It is more accurate to refer to us a Latter-day Saints.
Data compiled by The Tax Foundation, a nonpartisan research group in Washington, shows that during Romney's four years as governor, the state and local tax burden in Massachusetts increased from 10 percent to 10.6 percent of per capita income.
You're too obsessed with people's underwear. You got comments all over the place where you are just too excited about underwear.
It's time to move out of your parents basement, drop 100 pounds, get a real job and find some woman that will tolerate you. It wouldn't hurt to see a psychiatrist about your underwear fetish.
Dude..you and you mother-in-law need to sit down in front of a computer on the net and do some research. It is very easy now of days and it is a good ( maybe even the only way) to be properly informed.
Republicans have no tenability. They have raped us, lied to us and generally fucked thier own people in every way possible. I cannot adjudge any reality contrary to the truth regarding anyone who listens to this idiot's false and evil musings. No one in their right mind can espouse this as a reasonable coherent agenda. You get what you vote for folks!
By professing his belief in Jesus and failing to discuss his beliefs that pertain to his Mormom faith, he turned his back on his own religion. In doing so he failed to embrace and enjoy the religious tolerence he was trying to espouse.
This speech was a disgusting failure in regard to his oath to uphold the constitution.
*TRUTHFULNESS (even when unpopular); *OBEY THE LAW, our constitution; *HUMILITY; *REPENTENCE (change course when a mistake was made, like in Iraq); *PRO-LIFE; *COMPASSION "let's take care of people over here."; *BALANCED BUDGET(cut spending, cut taxes, no borrowing). Check his record! No other candidate upholds these values so consistently & courageously. He doesn't talk about his faith, he LIVES it, personally, professionally, & politically. Vote Ron Paul!
I don't have to prove your point. You did it yourself.
It's okay for our government to mention religion. To offer prayers at the start of each session of congress. To display the 10 Commandments on a public building. That does not violate anything. They just cannot make laws respecting the establishment of religion or the free excersize thereof. I think I heard that somewhere before.
OldsterStillLearning - Which is exactly that. Congress shall not make any laws interfering with religion.
Mitt said nothing about signing any laws that would interfere with how people practiced their religion. It is not government's place to do that. That is what the 1st Amendment and Jefferson meant.
Romney denied knowledge of the stem cell investments in his stock portfolio, practice that is in opposition with his conversion as an anti-abortion candidate.
Romney, who holds assets worth between $190 million to 250 million also invests in casino operators, AN OIL COMPANY THAT DOES BUSINESS WITH IRAN, and a firm with cash linked to the genocidal Sudanese government.
A Herald review of expenses charged to taxpayers by Romney's 13- member Office of Operations shows the staff spent $24,974 on sound equipment last year, and another $14,429 for a lighting system for a Romney event.
In February, the team relocated to a suite in the basement of the State House. The door is affixed with the number "LXX," Roman numerals for 70, because Romney is the 70th Bay State governor.
Some office staff, who all wear LXX pins, fashion themselves as U.S. Secret Service agents, referring to Romney in their earpieces and audio-equipped wrist pieces as "70" - similar to the way the Secret Service agents identify President Bush as "43" because he is the 43rd president.
This guy is the biggest phoney flip flopper ever. You name it, he's changed his stance on it more than once. I thought John Kerry was bad. This guy takes the cake.
Freedom doesn't require religion at all. People should be free to believe in whatever the want from the tooth fairy to Allah and from Santa Claus to Jesus. However, religion shouldn't be involved with politics because it will destroy the principles of freedom that should be left untouched.
Who is this guy again? McCain? Guiliani? Romney? Huckabee? Romney? Oh, wait, they are all the same. I wonder if Romney consulted a team of lawyers about this speech.
Screw Corporate America. Ron Paul 'O8. This is our last chance for someone who actually says what he believes.
Ron Paul is the face of corporate america. He wants to privatize everything and have companies run everything. And you are quoted in the last comment as saying "Screw Corporate America".
If Romney does what he did in Massachusetts that means raising taxes disguised as fees, increase illegal immigration, never stay to do the job, and insult the country all the times he's away.
Between his giving more money to sanctuary cities, his range of multiple flip flops, and just plain cowardly, unprincipled demeanor, he'd be a poor choice to any party.
I agree he is no JFK, and I personally do not think the people are ready to have a mormon becoming a President. He is endevored to live by it, so be it, he can.
The jewish lobby will never let him win since jews are gentiles to Mormons. And his gaffe about the "unchanged traditions"! Governor, have you heard about the destruction of the 2nd temple?
Why would freedom require religion? That's like saying before 1865, African American slaves couldn't be released unless they accepted Christian doctrine as truth! 11 seconds into this clip and I confirm Romney is a dingbatt.
Romney will make us wear long underwear and make our daughters marry geezers. I recommend reading Carolyn Jessop's story, Escape. If that doesn't scare people of Mormonism, I don't know what would. Ron Paul for Prez so we can wear the underwear we want!
Mormons believe more than that Jesus was the son of God. They believe in a races of gods that lived long ago, they believe that Yahweh was one of these gods. They believe that Jesus came to the Americas after his resurrection. Mormons make other Christians look sane and rational.
drtst: google "temple garment". Adults in the Mormon faith wear some sort of long underwear or a two-piece set of undergarments. It's some sort of religious symbolism or something. Wikipedia explains the whole thing.
Mitt did himself a world of good with today's speech. In fact, it was probably just in the nick of time. Here in my area of suburban Dallas, bumper stickers are starting to show up reading: "What would Joseph Smith Do? Get married!"
tqui: I can't figure out how this guy could think he's gonna get away with that. "Freedom requires religion"? WTF? The founders had the good sense to reject the explicit inclusion of religion in the business of the country. No role aside from the occasional mention of a deity. I'd like to keep it that way.
Oh, god! Here we go again with this whole "there is no separation of church and state" Republican BS, brought to you by Douchebag Romney. Why is it that the top 3 Republican contenders are also perhaps the top 3 douchebags (outside the Bush Administration, that is) in the GOP today (Romney, Rudy and Thompson)? Republicans just can't mention religion without referring to the establishment clause and how all the Founders were supposedly a bunch of fundies.
Hey folks I think the Romney guy and his recent Mormon speech is just one big scream for attention. He's just a guy who needs to be on the top for any price and when he is loosing it he panics and gives Mormon speech. Grow up Mr. Romney and find out how to loose with dignity and honor. Your faith is not the problem for anybody the problem is your political opportunism and lack of consistency. Money is not enough to buy presidential election...
Christians are hypocrites in judging Romney on his Mormon Faith. The mormons added another bible to the christian bible, but the christians did the same damn thing to the jewish bible. Dumb asses.
I don't think that a Mormon, or member of any other minority religion, would try to impose what is particular to his own religious views on the country, for a simple reason: it's not practically feasible. He wouldn't succeed, being in the minority. Don't agree with Romney on much, though. (I am a democrat).
Finally a voice of reason and from a Democrat no less.
You are absolutly correct.
Romney could not try to impose his religion because your party would trash him in the media over that. But then your party will trash any Republican in the media regardless of who he is.
Mitt Romney's political team has quietly consulted with leaders of the Mormon Church to map out plans for a nationwide network of Mormon supporters to help Romney capture the presidency in 2008, according to interviews and written materials reflecting plans for the initiative.[Boston Globe 10/19/06]
Yeah I read that story to. That story was false and proven so. While Romney did meet with some of the LDS Church leaders, they did not map out any campaign strategy.
Think of it this way at some point that strategy would have to involve encouraging the general membership to vote for Romney. Don't ya think? It hasn't happened. No one told me to vote for Romney. I have a good LDS friend that is actually voting for...cringe...Hillary so I would say that message didn't get to him either.
WOW. I didn't know that secularism was a new thing here in the US. In fact, I sorta thought it's what our country was founded on. But, I mean, he did get applauded on that statement, so I must be wrong. Either that or most of America has no idea what their country is supposed to stand for. Oh well...
Yes, you are wrong. This country was NOT found on secularism but, in fact, was founded by Christians who were seeking freedom to worship without state interferance.
But you are right about one thing, many athiests and agnostics have absolutly no idea what this country stands for.
I'm guessing you are referring to the founding fathers who were "christian." WRONG! Stop trying to pass this off as fact. Go read some of the letters written by Thomas Jefferson where he expresses his utter hatred of Christianity. Not that I agree with alot of what he was saying, but this country was NOT founded a Christian nation, and to say it was shows your utter ignorance of the history of politics.
Yes Jefferson "hated" Christianity sooo much that he wrote a book entitle "The Life and Morals of Jesus of Nazareth".
I know Jefferson wasn't exactly a Christian but he did believe in the teachings of Jesus.
It has just been in the past few decade where I have started seeing people hate Christian in this country. They my discribe themselves as athiests but from how they sound they are just anti-Christian bigots.
You're probably right, emmathird. I'd be much better off trusting the word of some anonymous person on youtube rather than someone who has spent most of his or her life studying the subject at hand. By the way, I don't listen to professors. I READ! You should try it (and I don't mean The Bible or some pseudoscientific book by Kent Hovind).
I guess he doesn't like much about hindus, buddhists, or atheists does he? "I like all religions that are somewhat related to my own. To hell with polytheism and atheism."
Look you FRICKING Biggot why don't you research your facts before you you spewing lies! I AM A MORMON and I can assure you we believe any of that garbage!
1:50-2:10 probably made me role my eyes the most, but this whole video is just utter hypocrisy, he just has an aura of unscrupulousness that permeates all his words, if he believes and practices half the belief and tolerance he appears to in this video, I will be shocked beyond belief. And that's not even getting into the whole Mormon thing, jesus, what's next, a Scientologist?
I agree with a number of the things he said, but he cannot pretend that religion will never influence his practices, however true his intentions may be. I do not believe that freedom requires religion; religion is an organization based around conforming to a single spiritual viewpoint. Religion embodies the opposite of freedom and individuality.
I agree. That is also why even the Judeo-Christian ethic that this nation was founded on still influences even athiests.
There is a general sense right and wrong that crosses party lines and all religious idealogies. That sense was instilled by our fore-fathers religions. It is the Judeo-Christian ethic.
Sadly that ethic is fastly disappearing in this nation.
Wrong. Religion is about the freedom to choose our course and what we will becom. That is lifes test. We are given free agency and tested on how we will use it.
Brigham Young is from England? Way to show off that mastery of early American history. Mormonism didn't exist when this country was founded (for a good number of decades after) because the human race hadn't reached that level of insanity yet.
Nothing REQUIRES religion. Way to write off your entire speech with the first three words. He forgot to mention he also believes Jesus was in Utah. Your portrayal of your beliefs (which you were taught) is fair game for judgment, in that if you believe something stupid, you just might be stupid.
There isn't a "beyond" concerning the meaning of separation of church and state. The meaning is you shouldn't talk about this shit on my tax dollar, ever.
I love the comment on the "religion of secularism." Because some of us want to see religion out of the governmental and public educational institutions, we apparently want to see it "gone completely" from anywhere but the private home. Way to twist our intentions around, Mitt.
Omg, what a lunatic!! Seriously, only in America.. "Freedom requires reliigion" HAHA, bullshit. Religion is nothing but imaginative stories, I cannot believe how you can be so blind to be so dedicated to religion.
bonzai08 4 years ago
Yeah... Mitt. Blame the atheists and secularists... they're the illogical ones. Not your super underwear wearing... not your Joseph Smith lies.
noroundsquares 4 years ago
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Ron Paul you dumb ass! Why don't you just vote for Mickey Mouse you idiot. This isn't the student council you brainless fool! This is the biggest job in the world and it requires major league executive experience that's not coming from Washington DC either. This guy has more executive experience than all the candidates running in either party, it isn't even close.
cmptvp 4 years ago
Ron Paul you dumb ass! Why don't you just vote for Mickey Mouse you idiot. This isn't the student council you brainless fool! This is the biggest job in the world and it requires major league executive experience that's not coming from Washington DC either. This guy has more executive experience than all the candidates running in either party, it isn't even close.
cmptvp 4 years ago
WFT is this guy talking about
RON PAUL PLEASE
zeroumus 4 years ago
Ron Paul you dumb ass! Why don't you just vote for Mickey Mouse you idiot. This isn't the student council you brainless fool! This is the biggest job in the world and it requires major league executive experience that's not coming from Washington DC either. This guy has more executive experience than all the candidate running in either party. It isn't even close.
cmptvp 4 years ago
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Ron Paul you dumb ass! Why don't you just vote for Mickey Mouse you idiot. This isn't the student council you brainless fool! This is the biggest job in the world and it requires major league executive experience that's not coming from Washington DC either. This guy has more executive experience than all the candidates running in either party, it isn't even close.
cmptvp 4 years ago
Can we all say Ron Paul 2008!
fullcolorone 4 years ago 2
Religion requires freedom? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
lolzorsaurus 4 years ago 4
Why so bitter and harsh towards Europe, Mitt? Oh right... they rejected your fairy tale pushing in France.
yorlik7 4 years ago 2
"Oh right... they rejected your fairy tale pushing in France."
Seems like Willard's time would have been better spent in VietNam.
Instead, he ran away.
MKB2814 4 years ago
Oh my god...we are in the middle ages for christ's sake...
blueplanet2 4 years ago 2
Romney will never talk publicly about how the Mormon religion differs from Christianity.
why?
Because the book of Mormon is a fairy tale sales pitch for polygamy.
mimesis6mime 4 years ago 2
Well by that logic mime, the Bible is a fairy tale sales pitch for rape, polygamy, war, racism, genocide, theft, severe machismo/exploitation and degradation of women and other cultures through the ideas of inferiority, slavery, etc. etc. It really can go on all day.
samander05 4 years ago
you can add the quran tot that list
YourSuperiorSays 4 years ago
well regardless of which book or all the books you call fairy tales, Mimesis have a good point. Its because of POLITICS. If Mitt addresses Mormonism & Christianity (read the 2 books, or just study the history behind the two) - he would HAVE to admit that they are NOT the same.
humanedomain 4 years ago
No one holy book is the same, and at the smae time they're plagiarism of each other...
Like a... reoccurring plagiarization.
YourSuperiorSays 4 years ago
Mitt cant win on faith
he can win on fate
faith of my fathers
isnt that John McCain
oh well, hes got good charisma, but hes waxy
gabecollett 4 years ago
Mike Gravel 2008!
overmind25 4 years ago
and by shame I meant that people would wonder what makes Romney think intellectual myopism is an ok thing?
luv4knowledge 4 years ago
Freedom REQUIRES religion? That's the looniest thing I've ever heard. This man has led his life in a box, and he would make an awful president and only bring shame on America. He won't be able to relate to any other nation and he doesn't understand diplomacy.
luv4knowledge 4 years ago 5
He's no financial wiz either:
We have twice pointed out that Romney in fact increased fees by around $500 million during his four years as governor. Romney's cuts in local aid also led indirectly to local tax increases (mainly in the form of property tax increases). Similarly, Romney's claim to have closed a $3 billion budget gap is exaggerated. In fact, the gap was closer to $1.2 billion [FactCheck site]
MKB2814 4 years ago 2
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@luv4knowledge -- As late as 2005 & 2006, Romney made jokes like this? "I believe marriage should be between a man and a woman … and a woman … and a woman," Romney quipped at the 2005 St. Patrick's Day breakfast in Boston. He made the same joke on Don Imus' 2006 St. Patrick's Day show. Romney's family tree has lots of polygamy. and his father was born in Mexico. He's currently trying to convince the Tea Party he's a good Christian who will reduce the debt.
vechorik 4 months ago
We need a scientologist president.
YawnGod 4 years ago
We just need a president who keeps his faith private.
America needs to be publicly secular, and faith should be kept private.
luv4knowledge 4 years ago 2
He didn't have faith in Florida. So he cheated and stuffed the ballot box.
hillaryyo2008 4 years ago 2
"He didn't have faith in Florida. So he cheated and stuffed the ballot box."
I bet if the police showed up, Romney would have told them to "F#ck off".
Just like he did during the 2002 Winter Olympics.
MKB2814 4 years ago
Most 'Republicans', 'Conservatives' and 'Fundamental Christians', could be legally and most certainly psychiatrically and medically, diagnosed as 'Sociopaths' and/or 'Psychopaths'. Not only that, but these people are 'Capitalistic Imperialistic Terrorists' who should be removed from America, they are ruining the United States of America, and they are ruining the World.
cpmondello 4 years ago 3
Smoke another joint you communist junky. Your not only wrong but your stupid. Your comments only deserve ridicule because your heart is filled with hate and you haven't a clue about America, NOT A CLUE!. I think you meant RUNNING, not ruining
cmptvp 4 years ago
People...there is NO freedom! We are all controlled somehow....what we have is supervised freedom. Please accept it, and move on. And stop cursing, be polite it won't take away from you, trust me,.
hodcarlos 4 years ago
oh fuck off mitt.
jhqw7u676yfw143t 4 years ago 4
Mitt Romney "offered an eye-catching twist on his usual stump speech" when he praised Hezbollah's use of social services to win over the Lebanese [Washington Post 8/3/07]
MKB2814 4 years ago
Freedom does NOT need religion!! Animals, unless in cages, are free to go and eat and fuck what ever they want. People in Iraq were NOT free to worship they way they wanted. Now they are. Religion NEEDS (also see ALL of history..ie germans) freedom to survive.
Make no mistake American is great because people are FREE...FIRST!...and then do as they please.
Live free or die!! Pledge allegiance to the FLAG!!! Protect Lady Liberty!!
VetOrDie 4 years ago 3
Good point, Iran is a country dominated by people invoking religion.
Religion hasn't kept them free.
MKB2814 4 years ago 2
He'll change his tune if the polls don't swing his way. Unfortunately too many Americans like the sound of his voice and his looks so what he says goes in one ear and out the other.
xldear23 4 years ago
Mormon underwear. I've ben told it is common practice to match these "sacred" undergarments with your tie. Alas, we can assume Mitt is wearing cerulean blue undergarments. Perhaps the banana-sling thong model, for this privileged occasion.
holdingcompany 4 years ago
Now you're obsessing over Mitts underwear.
Don't you have anything better to do with your life then obsess over underwear. Get a life!!!
AlbaGoBragh 4 years ago
Neither was Lloyd Bentsen. JFK was not even the JFK that the Dems make him out to be. JFK was for tax cuts. Those words make Dems wet thier pants. Their knees uncontrollably jerk and the phrase automatically comes out "only for the rich, only for the rich" whenever they hear the phrase "tax cut".
Both Romney and Quayle are closer do that ideal than ANY Dem (including Teddy) can ever be. Even at that I would take Romney and Quayle long before I would even consider JFK.
AlbaGoBragh 4 years ago
"Both Romney and Quayle are closer do that ideal than ANY Dem (including Teddy) can ever be."
That stautement was so stupid that calling you a moron is an upgrade.
MKB2814 4 years ago
Offer facts not insults.
AlbaGoBragh 4 years ago
Facts like Romney's arrest record?
Or how he signed legilation that raised taxes?
MKB2814 4 years ago
How about facts like what taxes Romney proposed?
His illegal immigration record?
How about what poor economic performance ratings he got?
MKB2814 4 years ago
Alba: Are you out of your mind!!Most republican call Dems 'tax and spenders'.Your so far off the mark you must be guessing at what to say.Dems 'pay as they go' by taxing the VERY rich, not the middle class, to pay for programs that will help everybody lift themselves(!!!) out of poverty.Republicans cut taxes,during war time(!),to the very rich and then sale credit to China for the middle class children to pay off.
VetOrDie 4 years ago
'I Believe in an America Where the Separation of Church and State is Absolute'
September 12, 1960, address to the Greater Houston Ministerial Association
John F. Kennedy
Both quotes are from the same speech that mitt cherry picked his quotes from.
VetOrDie 4 years ago 2
Freedom does not require religion and if this monkey is going to use JFK's words he should be ready to use all of them, "Finally, I believe in an America where religious intolerance will someday end--where all men and all churches are treated as equal--where every man has the same right to attend or not attend the church of his choice."
VetOrDie 4 years ago 2
Freedom does require religion because with out a sense of morality, you have anarchy. I believe strongly in capitalism but without morality, capitalism is cruel. Enron comes to mind.
There is no moral code in atheism. There is no book of standards of how to treat your fellow man. There are no repercussions for immorality in atheism. Maybe legally but the basis of our legal system stems from religion.
AlbaGoBragh 4 years ago
Romney's talking out of both sides of his mouth.
He even flip-flopped between his own seperation of church and state idea while spreading wide for the religious right.
He's a pathetic political whore.
MKB2814 4 years ago
FU!. Religion does not own morality. So is ass fucking children moral? Go ask a priest that. mark foley and larry craig are both religious, conservative, republicans with some kind of morality from some kind of book. Is that the morality to which you speak? FU!! You need a book to be moral?!! FU!! I come by it naturally.
VetOrDie 4 years ago
What is fasting replacing alleged "religious intolerence" is anti-religious bigotry.
What I have noticed in America in the past few decades is that those that complain against intolerance are themselves the most intolerant.
AlbaGoBragh 4 years ago
What I've noticed is sanctimonious little rodents like you just being generally hypocritical and deceptive.
There's no religious intolerance, just concern over people justifying the worst humanity has to offer by citing God for their cruelty.
MKB2814 4 years ago
You just proved my point. Thank you and good night.
AlbaGoBragh 4 years ago
"You just proved my point. Thank you and good night."
What point? That you're a sanctimonious little piss drinker?
At no point did I say anything negative about religion, just those who use it to justify their own cruelty and stupidity.
Jesus loves you, he's just not in love with you.
MKB2814 4 years ago
VetOrDie made a comment hoping "religious intolerance will someday end". I made my comment about those who cry for tolerance as being the most intolerant.
Then you jumped in and called me "sanctimonious little rodent" and proclaimed there is no religious intolerance.
Bingo! You proved my point.
I don't think I am all that "sanctimonious". I have lots of flaws. I like to argue online, against my better judgment, with people who I know will never agree and often insult me.
AlbaGoBragh 4 years ago
No, your just a sanctimonious little rodent, not because of our religion, just your personality.
You should look at the definition in Webster's before you think next time.
MKB2814 4 years ago
So, when Willard shows disrespect for Muslims, despite talking out the other side of his mouth about religious tolerance, you're fine with his hypocracy.
MKB2814 4 years ago
In all reality, I agree with you about people committing all sorts of atrocities in the name of God. They blaspheme His name by their actions.
Go to any of your semi-annual conferences in Salt Lake and you will see hordes of "Christians" picketing outside saying all sorts of atrocious things against my church and in the name of God. We don't picket anyone. Just stupid me, unable to keep my opinions to myself in the comment section of this video.
AlbaGoBragh 4 years ago
I meant to say "Go to any of *our* semi-annual conferences...", not "Go to any of *your* semi-annual conferences..."
AlbaGoBragh 4 years ago
"Just stupid me, unable to keep my opinions to myself in the comment section of this video."
You're entitled to your opinion and free to comment, no matter how stupid and ignorant it is.
MKB2814 4 years ago
What is so secret about mormon underwear?
Members of the Mormon (LDS) church begin wearing garments after they have gone through the temple. In the temple, members of the church make covenants or promises to live a righteous life. The garment reminds them of the promise they have made even when they are not in the temple.
Doesn't that make you feel better about electing him as president? Just knowing he feels more secure because of his underpants?
holdingcompany 4 years ago 2
Dude! What is your obsession with underwear? So LDS people who have been through the temple wear different underwear. What the big deal? And duh, if you know about it, obviously it is not "secret".
Stay out of my underwear drawer ya perv.
AlbaGoBragh 4 years ago
Deseret News 7/18/07]
One Utahn profiting handsomely — albeit indirectly — from Romney's run is Don Stirling, whose e-mail sent last year to potential contributors created controversy about whether The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints was helping build support for Romney.
MKB2814 4 years ago
Stirling was a paid consultant to Romney, he wrote an e-mail to Deseret Book President Sherri Dew — which was later leaked to the Boston Globe newspaper — where he implied the LDS Church and a member of the Quorum of the Twelve suggested using lists of the BYU Management Society to organize Romney support.
I thought he vowed his church wouldn't influence him politically?
MKB2814 4 years ago
The visit happened between Dan Stirling and some of the LDS Church leaders but the rest of the story is false. There was no discussion of the LDS Church helping the Romney campaign.
It would be pointless for any candidate to ask the Church for support. The Church is adamant about its political neutrality.
The story you are quoting came from the Boston Globe. The Globe is not a friend of the Republican Party. They will print anything to denigrate a Republican.
AlbaGoBragh 4 years ago
It's not a false story, nice try.
There was a discussion between Romney and the LDS. That was factually reported. The source was also cited.
How does Willard find time to formulate his latest flip flop with Mittwitts like you up his ass?
MKB2814 4 years ago
Tom Cruise is the same way about his religion. He goes apeshoot when anybody casts aspersions on his beliefs.
authorllll 4 years ago
Well yeah. Wouldn't you if all your life people want to verbally beat you up just because of your religion.
Whenever I meet an evangelical, I get real apprehensive about telling them I am LDS just because I don't want to go through that crap again.
At least I don't have to worry about losing my life like some of the early LDS Church members or early Christians. Although "once saved, always saved" means an evangelical can murder me and still be saved. Therefore, I better watch out. :-)
AlbaGoBragh 4 years ago
Thomas Jefferson did not even live on the same planet as you.
Because Jefferson did not belong to any particular religion all the anti-christian bigots today think he thought just like they do now.
AlbaGoBragh 4 years ago
His beliefs in the message of tolerance and forgiveness from Jesus seems to be in conflict with his willingness to use "enhanced interrogation" on terrorism suspects.
nicholas9999 4 years ago
not to mention he is intolerant of people that have no religion. And in a world so full have hate and destruction can we really blame people for losing or not having religion? Isn't that kind of 'blame' suppose to be left in the hands of ....god?
VetOrDie 4 years ago 2
So how does this respect someone's religion:
The American Jewish Committee became incensed when it was discovered that the Mormons had acquired the records of the Nazi "final solution," and were industriously baptizing what for once could truly be called a "lost tribe": the murdered Jews of Europe.
MKB2814 4 years ago
vet: well-said!
nicholas9999 4 years ago
I don't know if this is the right place for it but since everybody's yakking about the speech I though I'd hoist this question up the flag and see if anybody salutes. My mother-in-law calls me after the speech yesterday asking me about the "latter day saints' deal and I found my self in the lurch-- I don't know where they might hail from. Can anybody post info apropos my mother-in-law's query? It would sure help things out at the house.
authorllll 4 years ago
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints was founded in 1830 in Palmyra, NY. Persecution drove them from NY to eventually settle in Utah. That is where they hail from.
The phrase "Latter-day Saint" is because we believe we live in the last days and "Saint" to us is synonymous with "Christian" in meaning.
We are called "Mormons", originally by those who persecuted us, because of our belief in the Book of Mormon. It is more accurate to refer to us a Latter-day Saints.
AlbaGoBragh 4 years ago
Do you wear special underwear?
holdingcompany 4 years ago
Data compiled by The Tax Foundation, a nonpartisan research group in Washington, shows that during Romney's four years as governor, the state and local tax burden in Massachusetts increased from 10 percent to 10.6 percent of per capita income.
MKB2814 4 years ago
You're too obsessed with people's underwear. You got comments all over the place where you are just too excited about underwear.
It's time to move out of your parents basement, drop 100 pounds, get a real job and find some woman that will tolerate you. It wouldn't hurt to see a psychiatrist about your underwear fetish.
AlbaGoBragh 4 years ago
Dude..you and you mother-in-law need to sit down in front of a computer on the net and do some research. It is very easy now of days and it is a good ( maybe even the only way) to be properly informed.
Good luck and happy hunting.
VetOrDie 4 years ago 2
Republicans have no tenability. They have raped us, lied to us and generally fucked thier own people in every way possible. I cannot adjudge any reality contrary to the truth regarding anyone who listens to this idiot's false and evil musings. No one in their right mind can espouse this as a reasonable coherent agenda. You get what you vote for folks!
xldear23 4 years ago
By professing his belief in Jesus and failing to discuss his beliefs that pertain to his Mormom faith, he turned his back on his own religion. In doing so he failed to embrace and enjoy the religious tolerence he was trying to espouse.
This speech was a disgusting failure in regard to his oath to uphold the constitution.
stratvic 4 years ago
Ron Paul upholds Christian values:
*TRUTHFULNESS (even when unpopular); *OBEY THE LAW, our constitution; *HUMILITY; *REPENTENCE (change course when a mistake was made, like in Iraq); *PRO-LIFE; *COMPASSION "let's take care of people over here."; *BALANCED BUDGET(cut spending, cut taxes, no borrowing). Check his record! No other candidate upholds these values so consistently & courageously. He doesn't talk about his faith, he LIVES it, personally, professionally, & politically. Vote Ron Paul!
ruthelator 4 years ago
I don't have to prove your point. You did it yourself.
It's okay for our government to mention religion. To offer prayers at the start of each session of congress. To display the 10 Commandments on a public building. That does not violate anything. They just cannot make laws respecting the establishment of religion or the free excersize thereof. I think I heard that somewhere before.
AlbaGoBragh 4 years ago
OldsterStillLearning - Which is exactly that. Congress shall not make any laws interfering with religion.
Mitt said nothing about signing any laws that would interfere with how people practiced their religion. It is not government's place to do that. That is what the 1st Amendment and Jefferson meant.
AlbaGoBragh 4 years ago
I don't care what you THINK the 1st Amendment says - it says what the supreme court RULES it as.
Read about Everson v. Board of Education.
Randomambusher 4 years ago
Boston Herald 8/16/07
Romney denied knowledge of the stem cell investments in his stock portfolio, practice that is in opposition with his conversion as an anti-abortion candidate.
Romney, who holds assets worth between $190 million to 250 million also invests in casino operators, AN OIL COMPANY THAT DOES BUSINESS WITH IRAN, and a firm with cash linked to the genocidal Sudanese government.
MKB2814 4 years ago
Boston Herald, 7/25/05:
A Herald review of expenses charged to taxpayers by Romney's 13- member Office of Operations shows the staff spent $24,974 on sound equipment last year, and another $14,429 for a lighting system for a Romney event.
In February, the team relocated to a suite in the basement of the State House. The door is affixed with the number "LXX," Roman numerals for 70, because Romney is the 70th Bay State governor.
MKB2814 4 years ago
Some office staff, who all wear LXX pins, fashion themselves as U.S. Secret Service agents, referring to Romney in their earpieces and audio-equipped wrist pieces as "70" - similar to the way the Secret Service agents identify President Bush as "43" because he is the 43rd president.
MKB2814 4 years ago
This guy is the biggest phoney flip flopper ever. You name it, he's changed his stance on it more than once. I thought John Kerry was bad. This guy takes the cake.
eekdog2005 4 years ago
It's him or Rudy, you decide. Nobody else has a chance in hell.
wheytoobuff 4 years ago
Heavenly Father wants Ron Paul to be the next POTUS.
thornwellhead 4 years ago
What is POTUS? It sounds delicious.
Inzipid 4 years ago
lnzip: it means "president of the united states"
nicholas9999 4 years ago
I think you're thinking of potage. :)
thornwellhead 4 years ago
Impossible. I don't own a canoe.
Inzipid 4 years ago
Freedom doesn't require religion at all. People should be free to believe in whatever the want from the tooth fairy to Allah and from Santa Claus to Jesus. However, religion shouldn't be involved with politics because it will destroy the principles of freedom that should be left untouched.
flyingbird0214 4 years ago
Tying religion to faith only demeans whatever good faith can do.
MKB2814 4 years ago
Oop, meant tying faith and religion to politics only demeans and lessens the good they can do.
MKB2814 4 years ago
what a lying scumbag
elperropatron 4 years ago
Things in this country will be much better after Mitt is in office and Ron Paul is a distant memory.
wheytoobuff 4 years ago
Who is this guy again? McCain? Guiliani? Romney? Huckabee? Romney? Oh, wait, they are all the same. I wonder if Romney consulted a team of lawyers about this speech.
Screw Corporate America. Ron Paul 'O8. This is our last chance for someone who actually says what he believes.
drjhoss 4 years ago 2
Ron Paul is the face of corporate america. He wants to privatize everything and have companies run everything. And you are quoted in the last comment as saying "Screw Corporate America".
You people are dumber than I thought.
wheytoobuff 4 years ago
What I read in the news is that Romney has always written his own speeches.
Yeah the reason why Paul stands out as so different from the other is because he is a whacko.
AlbaGoBragh 4 years ago
If Romney does what he did in Massachusetts that means raising taxes disguised as fees, increase illegal immigration, never stay to do the job, and insult the country all the times he's away.
And only have one term.
MKB2814 4 years ago
Say what you want to. At least he has a chance to win.
wheytoobuff 4 years ago
Not really.
Between his giving more money to sanctuary cities, his range of multiple flip flops, and just plain cowardly, unprincipled demeanor, he'd be a poor choice to any party.
MKB2814 4 years ago
I agree he is no JFK, and I personally do not think the people are ready to have a mormon becoming a President. He is endevored to live by it, so be it, he can.
Andi1761 4 years ago
He is no JFK, he is raciest and a suck up to the Zionist Jews for thier Media and the free advertising.
jayezzo 4 years ago 3
I think Romney's a good guy. Luckily for him, America does not want a good guy in the White House.
octoslash 4 years ago
The jewish lobby will never let him win since jews are gentiles to Mormons. And his gaffe about the "unchanged traditions"! Governor, have you heard about the destruction of the 2nd temple?
annarboriter 4 years ago
Why would freedom require religion? That's like saying before 1865, African American slaves couldn't be released unless they accepted Christian doctrine as truth! 11 seconds into this clip and I confirm Romney is a dingbatt.
HaloedG 4 years ago 2
you said jesus will save mankind!!!iraqis are human too!!!why do you think jesus did not save them!!!your talking non-sense!!!
im from philippines!!!and my concernis world peace!!!
basangentot 4 years ago
Mormons wear magical underwear.. look it up..
helraizr 4 years ago 2
Romney will make us wear long underwear and make our daughters marry geezers. I recommend reading Carolyn Jessop's story, Escape. If that doesn't scare people of Mormonism, I don't know what would. Ron Paul for Prez so we can wear the underwear we want!
thornwellhead 4 years ago
Mormons believe more than that Jesus was the son of God. They believe in a races of gods that lived long ago, they believe that Yahweh was one of these gods. They believe that Jesus came to the Americas after his resurrection. Mormons make other Christians look sane and rational.
flyingbird0214 4 years ago
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Yes, that's true.
thornwellhead 4 years ago
um wow that's like not even close to being true.
drtst2001 4 years ago
drtst: google "temple garment". Adults in the Mormon faith wear some sort of long underwear or a two-piece set of undergarments. It's some sort of religious symbolism or something. Wikipedia explains the whole thing.
nicholas9999 4 years ago
flying: " . . make other Christians look sane and rational," lol!!
nicholas9999 4 years ago
No pluralist cultists for president
Ron Paul '08
thornwellhead 4 years ago 2
No psychopath nut jobs for president.
Mitt Romney '08
AlbaGoBragh 4 years ago
neither mitt nor ron will be the next president. it will be huckabee vs. obama, two basically likable guys. the voters will choose obama.
nicholas9999 4 years ago
Oh yeah, tell the nutjobs just what they want to hear. Rewrite history to satisfy the delusional.
j0hnwi11iams 4 years ago
No, we are right. You are wrong. Religion will be tossed aside like an old hat once people have no further use for it.
j0hnwi11iams 4 years ago
Good speech, but he has no chance of beating any of the top 3 Dems , bar maybe Edwards. He has too much to catch up and too many corrections to do...
PreetSG 4 years ago
Mitt did himself a world of good with today's speech. In fact, it was probably just in the nick of time. Here in my area of suburban Dallas, bumper stickers are starting to show up reading: "What would Joseph Smith Do? Get married!"
authorllll 4 years ago
"Freedom requires religion"
That is an asshat speaking if anything.
tquillity 4 years ago 4
Absolutely correct!
HaloedG 4 years ago
tqui: I can't figure out how this guy could think he's gonna get away with that. "Freedom requires religion"? WTF? The founders had the good sense to reject the explicit inclusion of religion in the business of the country. No role aside from the occasional mention of a deity. I'd like to keep it that way.
nicholas9999 4 years ago
thumbs up
tquillity 4 years ago
Snake........>
stevaul 4 years ago
Oh, god! Here we go again with this whole "there is no separation of church and state" Republican BS, brought to you by Douchebag Romney. Why is it that the top 3 Republican contenders are also perhaps the top 3 douchebags (outside the Bush Administration, that is) in the GOP today (Romney, Rudy and Thompson)? Republicans just can't mention religion without referring to the establishment clause and how all the Founders were supposedly a bunch of fundies.
Whoo69 4 years ago 3
Spoken like a true Democrat. You can't see the horror that lies in your own party so you have to disparage all Republicans.
AlbaGoBragh 4 years ago
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Hey folks I think the Romney guy and his recent Mormon speech is just one big scream for attention. He's just a guy who needs to be on the top for any price and when he is loosing it he panics and gives Mormon speech. Grow up Mr. Romney and find out how to loose with dignity and honor. Your faith is not the problem for anybody the problem is your political opportunism and lack of consistency. Money is not enough to buy presidential election...
sd63guy 4 years ago
so, now that we know that the republican nomination is going to Giuliani....
i mean ron paul.
videostuf 4 years ago
Christians are hypocrites in judging Romney on his Mormon Faith. The mormons added another bible to the christian bible, but the christians did the same damn thing to the jewish bible. Dumb asses.
jdogclf 4 years ago
After all that, my mother-in-law calls me to ask if it's true he tied his dog on top the car to drive up the turnpike to his country home.
authorllll 4 years ago
I don't think that a Mormon, or member of any other minority religion, would try to impose what is particular to his own religious views on the country, for a simple reason: it's not practically feasible. He wouldn't succeed, being in the minority. Don't agree with Romney on much, though. (I am a democrat).
Artaudin2 4 years ago
Finally a voice of reason and from a Democrat no less.
You are absolutly correct.
Romney could not try to impose his religion because your party would trash him in the media over that. But then your party will trash any Republican in the media regardless of who he is.
AlbaGoBragh 4 years ago
Mitt Romney's political team has quietly consulted with leaders of the Mormon Church to map out plans for a nationwide network of Mormon supporters to help Romney capture the presidency in 2008, according to interviews and written materials reflecting plans for the initiative.[Boston Globe 10/19/06]
MKB2814 4 years ago
Yeah I read that story to. That story was false and proven so. While Romney did meet with some of the LDS Church leaders, they did not map out any campaign strategy.
Think of it this way at some point that strategy would have to involve encouraging the general membership to vote for Romney. Don't ya think? It hasn't happened. No one told me to vote for Romney. I have a good LDS friend that is actually voting for...cringe...Hillary so I would say that message didn't get to him either.
AlbaGoBragh 4 years ago
Mormons think God knocked on the door to have sex with Mary.
elitedragoon2115 4 years ago
christians believe all sorts of weird things like God possessing a burning bush and demon possessed pigs running off cliffs. What's the diff?
jdogclf 4 years ago
WOW. I didn't know that secularism was a new thing here in the US. In fact, I sorta thought it's what our country was founded on. But, I mean, he did get applauded on that statement, so I must be wrong. Either that or most of America has no idea what their country is supposed to stand for. Oh well...
RockinRowdyRufus 4 years ago
Yes, you are wrong. This country was NOT found on secularism but, in fact, was founded by Christians who were seeking freedom to worship without state interferance.
But you are right about one thing, many athiests and agnostics have absolutly no idea what this country stands for.
AlbaGoBragh 4 years ago
I'm guessing you are referring to the founding fathers who were "christian." WRONG! Stop trying to pass this off as fact. Go read some of the letters written by Thomas Jefferson where he expresses his utter hatred of Christianity. Not that I agree with alot of what he was saying, but this country was NOT founded a Christian nation, and to say it was shows your utter ignorance of the history of politics.
RockinRowdyRufus 4 years ago
You know you shouldn't believe everything your leftist professor says.
emmathird 4 years ago
Yes Jefferson "hated" Christianity sooo much that he wrote a book entitle "The Life and Morals of Jesus of Nazareth".
I know Jefferson wasn't exactly a Christian but he did believe in the teachings of Jesus.
It has just been in the past few decade where I have started seeing people hate Christian in this country. They my discribe themselves as athiests but from how they sound they are just anti-Christian bigots.
AlbaGoBragh 4 years ago
Evangelicals created this new history of American Theocracy in the 20th century. Read a book!
RockinRowdyRufus 4 years ago
You're probably right, emmathird. I'd be much better off trusting the word of some anonymous person on youtube rather than someone who has spent most of his or her life studying the subject at hand. By the way, I don't listen to professors. I READ! You should try it (and I don't mean The Bible or some pseudoscientific book by Kent Hovind).
RockinRowdyRufus 4 years ago
What a pompous arrogant prick. "I READ! You should try it..."
What superior intellect you must have. I should bow before your massive brain that you have filled with contempt of Christianity.
How utterly arrogant to assume Christians don't read or more importantly we don't read the books you read and, therefore, are all idiots.
AlbaGoBragh 4 years ago
I guess he doesn't like much about hindus, buddhists, or atheists does he? "I like all religions that are somewhat related to my own. To hell with polytheism and atheism."
RockinRowdyRufus 4 years ago
The Mormon Church believes that Jesus Christ
came from MISSOURI!! They also didn't except
blacks into their church until after the
civil rights act! If this guy doesn't scare
you, your an idiot.
bigge525 4 years ago
Look you FRICKING Biggot why don't you research your facts before you you spewing lies! I AM A MORMON and I can assure you we believe any of that garbage!
dswilde83 4 years ago
I think you mean "we..." don't "...believe any of that garbage!"
Jesus came from Isreal just like it says in the Bible. Mormons believe that just the same as any other Christian.
AlbaGoBragh 4 years ago
Good job dswilde, you as a Mormon believe in Romney's garbage.
elitedragoon2115 4 years ago
I'm surprised you have the mental capacity to breath.
drtst2001 4 years ago
1:50-2:10 probably made me role my eyes the most, but this whole video is just utter hypocrisy, he just has an aura of unscrupulousness that permeates all his words, if he believes and practices half the belief and tolerance he appears to in this video, I will be shocked beyond belief. And that's not even getting into the whole Mormon thing, jesus, what's next, a Scientologist?
Makani20 4 years ago
I'll be respectful, but he does look fake. But I don't know.
Limbsy 4 years ago
SOUND fake*
Limbsy 4 years ago
Cut him some slack. No need to be so mean spirited.
GA7777777 4 years ago
I agree with a number of the things he said, but he cannot pretend that religion will never influence his practices, however true his intentions may be. I do not believe that freedom requires religion; religion is an organization based around conforming to a single spiritual viewpoint. Religion embodies the opposite of freedom and individuality.
mardiggan 4 years ago
mardiggan,
well said.
mfyyre 4 years ago
I agree. That is also why even the Judeo-Christian ethic that this nation was founded on still influences even athiests.
There is a general sense right and wrong that crosses party lines and all religious idealogies. That sense was instilled by our fore-fathers religions. It is the Judeo-Christian ethic.
Sadly that ethic is fastly disappearing in this nation.
AlbaGoBragh 4 years ago
Wrong. Religion is about the freedom to choose our course and what we will becom. That is lifes test. We are given free agency and tested on how we will use it.
todplu 4 years ago 2
Brigham Young is from England? Way to show off that mastery of early American history. Mormonism didn't exist when this country was founded (for a good number of decades after) because the human race hadn't reached that level of insanity yet.
This guy is a dangerous liar.
sarcasmosis 4 years ago
Nothing REQUIRES religion. Way to write off your entire speech with the first three words. He forgot to mention he also believes Jesus was in Utah. Your portrayal of your beliefs (which you were taught) is fair game for judgment, in that if you believe something stupid, you just might be stupid.
There isn't a "beyond" concerning the meaning of separation of church and state. The meaning is you shouldn't talk about this shit on my tax dollar, ever.
sarcasmosis 4 years ago 2
I love the comment on the "religion of secularism." Because some of us want to see religion out of the governmental and public educational institutions, we apparently want to see it "gone completely" from anywhere but the private home. Way to twist our intentions around, Mitt.
mardiggan 4 years ago
What about the people with no faith? What do I do? Oh please tell me Mitt! I feel so lost!
mikey2600 4 years ago
Sorry Mikey - Mitt only supports your right to freedom if you're religious. Filthy secular