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  • My thing is at least wait until you get in private-don't do that in the middle of the song and disrupting the anointing.

  • Everyone pray for Aretha Franlkin, she had surgery for ancreatic cancer. I know Vanessa Bell Armstrong is going to be shaken by this. She is one of her favorite singers.

  • That little girl look like Kierra Sheard..is that her?

  • I loved this song sooo much growing up. Thank God for this

  • Vanessa kinda look like Kim Burrell in this clip

  • @LordUknodatimurchild It could be her.

  • she look like albertina walker on here....lol!

  • I LOVE the fact that GOD gave us voices to praise HIS HOLY NAME!!!!!!!

  • That sounds like Pastor Stanfield on the organ some. If it is, he and Vanessa are really good friends and AGAIN her comment was playful. Can we focus on the sacrifice that Jesus Christ made, which is what this song is about and STOP giving the world a reason to stay away from the church...

  • I'm looking for 2 songs that I can't seem to find anywhere - "Forgiven" and "All is Well" can anyone help? I thought they were Mattie Moss Clarke pieces but I'm drawing a blank.

  • Forgiven is on one of the early UNAC-5 LP's by Kenneth Ward.

    All is Well is on the  LP titled

    COGIC presents: Jesus Is The Light Of My Life,which is a Betty Nelson LP.

  • Things like this happens, it is clearly the director's position to fix the problem. Not Vanessa!! That was wrong and inappropriate!! That defeats the purpose of the director. And if Mattie Moss Clark was so strict like the say was back, why didnt she jump in then and correct the problem?? I respect Mattie Clark to the fullness bt that was supposed to be her call.

  • @jovta22 Well, In Momma Mattie's defense: 1) The camera stayed on Vanessa the whole time the incident went down 2) It happened kinda of fast 3) I did hear Momma Mattie in the background giving words. I know you meant any harm. Was just making you aware of a couple things you might have missed that I observed. Be blessed!!!

  • Mistakes happen with singers and musicians.........But my problem wit this is that the only person that kept bringing it up was Vanessa and she had the mic in her hand. She was wrong and out of order. I mean lets just call it what it was. It took the choir a lil while to catch on but Vanessa went right into the modulation so why not just keep going. The 3 times she made note of their mistake was uncalled for

  • OK basically what happened was Vanessa fumbled the words to the end of the first verse and instead sung the words to the end of the second verse, so she probably wasn't expecting the modulation when it happened. IT WAS NOT THE MUSICIAN'S FAULT!!!!!!! I'm sure Vanessa probably apologized to him later.

    This is coming from a HUGE VBA fan, and I am also both a singer and a musician so I know how it is on both sides.

  • Ok now where was Twinkie?

  • At 3:47 she looked at the musician and said, "yea, you". Later she said, "he took me up higher". Let's face it people. Let's not blame the musician. Dr. Mattie Moss Clark is directing in this video. He/she would not have modulated without Dr.Clark's signal. Don't forget, Dr. Clark would not hesitate to embarrass someone for mistakes or underperforming. It seems the only person not aware of the key change was VBA. Further, she walks off and Dr. Clark continues the song with Rev. Wright.

  • At 3:47 she looked at the musician and said, "yea, you". Later she said, "he took me up higher". Let's face it people. Let's not blame the musician. Dr. Mattie Moss Clark is directing in this video. He/she would not have modulated without Dr.Clark's signal. Don't forget, Dr. Clark would not hesitate to embarrass someone for mistakes or underperforming. It seems the only person not aware of the key change was VBA. Further, she walks off and Dr. Clark continues the song with Rev. Wright.

  • She didn't call him out. He messed up and she's the one out front. Either way a modulation in the wrong place is a huge no. Vanessa saved it but if you notice he also screwed the choir up. They weren't ready, so she led them.But long story short Go for the message people and leave the unnecessary judgement to people of the world.

  • Ohhhh!!!

  • Well, I couldn't hear what she said. Don't get me wrong, I love Vanessa Bell, but if she did put him out there like that, that was not Godly like or very professional. Nobody's perfect, nobody.

  • First of all... She shouldnt be a diva about it and call him out the way she did..twice..She should be focused on ministering to peolpe and praising the one who gave his son....

  • SHUT UP!

  • thats the exact words I am trying to tell this fool... LOL

  • why don't all u music pros just savor the lyrics and the meaning that the song is projecting, thats whats really important here, Im sure thats what God would be interested in, that whats being sung from the heart, remember., instead of puting the horse before the cart, as we do all to often.

  • The organist seemed to be a little in over his head I don't know if he practiced with them but it doesn not really sound like it. If it were me (V.B)I would have continued singing like nothing was wrng whch is wht Iv bn know to do. Talk to him later thats what you do.

  • As a musician, well just a human, it hurts me to see her being so mean just to cover up her own mistake! I am a HUGE VBA fan, but SHE MESSED UP!!! The band modulated a half-step, so there was no way they "took her up too high"

  • In the song, isn't a modulation written at that point of the song? Did she forget? If you listen to her album recording of the song she modulates right there on the second verse. Or am I remembering wrong?

  • tmstrong....

    If you listen to this vid you will hear the modulation. plus when Dr. Clark does a song most time she doe not do it the same way twice.

  • well it was messed up how she calle out the piano man but hey he did do horrible. and besides that man i love her voice. she has to be one of the best singers ive ever heard in my life

  • When did she call him out? I dont see it??

  • Lord I know if Mattie could only get to her shoe, it would've been air borne for all of us to see it!! Mattie Moss Clark is the Ike Turner of church choirs--"Sing the song like I told you!!!!!!"

  • @ladynw8n Oh that hurt when i read your post...Funny...and u know she would have been trying to get out the way.

  • Wow who was playin all over the place like that. VBA is my girl for this one!

  • when he modulated it took her by suprise but i dont think she was going after him to embarrass him but said it playfully and moved on... i dont think it was meant to be a big discussion of how professional she is

  • This is my song!!! Literally! I had to sing the lead back when I was like 13 @ my old baptist church.

    VBA sang it whole a lot better than I did or could ever do :)

  • LOOK AT KIKI IN THE AISLE.

  • DETROIT GOSPEL RULES!!!!!

  • I didnt know there was a such thing.

  • I'm talking about Detroit having some great gospel artists like The Winans, The Clark Sisters, Vanessa Bell Armstrong, Fred Hammond, BeBe and CeCe, Dietrick Haddon, etc.

  • OIC! I didnt understand. Thank you so much for clearifying. Blessings and prosperity to you.

  • You got that right, this is that old school CLASSIC Detroit Gospel...and we STILL doing it in gospel... DETROIT GOSPEL!!!!!!!!

  • she said, "he took me up higher!" then somebody said, "sang girl" and gave her the next part. ROTFL

    and who is that alto who can't find her note at 6:49.

    remember, back in the day it was common practice to correct someone on the spot. i remember singing in a concert and the organist wasn't paying attention and the director was trying to go somewhere different. the director grabbed the nearest thing and threw it at the organist and yelled "pay attention" in the middle of the concert. LOL

  • what year

  • im glad this wasnt one of my productions, I would be very upset at everyone. and i would have let her know she was unprofessional. When i become a producer, and an artist is singing for me, i wouldnt let them speak to my auxilleries like that. especially since i want to do live productions

  • SHe wasn't unprofessional.  She was saving face. Normal when a modulation comes unexpectedly!!!!!!

  • well he should have listened to her voice or watched for mama matties signals, and she should not have embarrassed him on a live recording. Its different in practice, but not live.

  • What Did VBA say at 3:47?

  • I feel u

  • is that choir still that size?????????

  • Thats choir is not in existence anymore...lol

  • LOL, you night be right on that, but the song is still very meaningful.

  • Oh yes, this song is still VERY meaningful, I was just responding to someone else that asked if this choir was still that size...

  • did dr. moss write this song?

  • No. This is a Tommy arrangement.

  • go nessa

  • I love Vanessa but that choir and the musicians were awful!

  • I disagree...

  • wHAT Year?

  • Vanessa can sing!!!!!!!!!

  • What a cutie pie at :25... VBA is probably the best gospel singer on this planet

  • Hey all you faithful VBA fans. Mrs. Armstrong's current project "Walking Miracle" has received a Stellar Award Nomination for " Female Artist of the Year!"!!!!!!!! Next single to drop "Wait" call your radio stations request it as often as you can. Thanks again for the loyal support to VBA Ministries..

    Peace and Blessings,

  • VBA...who is my favorite female vocalist looks like Albetina Walker(now)in this video

  • God has blessed her wif a beautiful voice and a beautiful name cuz tha my nam to

  • shelagymnastdolkn:

    KEEP YOUR DOT COM crap off my channel please.

    Thank YOU.

  • Vanessa Bell is sangin but that choir sounds horrible. I know Mattie was mad at them.

  • That really does looks like Whitney and the woman sitting in front of her looks like Whitney's friend Robin.

  • OMG that does favour whitney!!

  • is that whitney houston at 3:07, the girl behind the girl with her hand on her face. I'm telling you that got to be her.

  • That does look like Whitney houston...wow

  • Lawd, did she say "I don't even know why he playing"

  • Yeah that's what it sounded like. That was so unprofessional.

  • I think she was just being funny cuz she had sing higher at that point

  • was this a live recording? i'm kinda young, probably wasn't born when this song came out.

  • Vanessa actually put this song on her album entitled, "Peace Be Still" back in like 1981. This was just a re-do in like 1994 or 1995

  • WOW i love dis song but dang she was wrong fo puttin da musician on blast like dat, she woulda gotten da finger right then in FRONT of EVERYBODY dat was wrong!!!

  • No you would not have been that vulgar and ungodly bra!

  • Pastor Shirley Caesar does that at her church in Raleigh. I have seen up stand up and give the choir their parts while they were singing a song.

  • I love to go to detroit michgan here her sing in them clark sisters wow that talent out there i would like to become singer just like them but take some vocals lession

  • Diva move or what? LOL

  • i can see that karen clark sheard you cantell they taught each differt singing style i can here karen clark in vanessa voice they both have that mean growl i love them runs thAt do i wish could sing just like them

  • I think as far as riffs and runs go, I would say it was Aretha who really started a lot of that and Vanessa and the Clarks took it and ran with it. Remember that all of them are from Detroit (The Land Of Singers). I'm so proud to be from Michigan when I hear talent and gifting like this.

  • yeah, i think she did kinda forget the words, b/c you can hear the people in the choir trying to get her back on track. But peeps are humans, we all make mistakes. It's all good.

  • I think the music went that way because Vanessa forgot her lyrics.If you listen to the real recording, the lines before the "key change" error state "But God in His compassion said I'll pay redemptions price/So He took on the form of man and became the perfect sacrifice." She messed up her own lyrics and put the musician in an awkward position then tried to get mad because she forgot the words. Maybe next time she can write the words on a napkin and pull it out her breast before she sings.LOL.

  • mauricezjones....

    man........lol...lol...lol..oo­oh....lol...lol..

    That's what she get for being a COGIC DIVA!

    Thanks for clearing everything up my man....LOL....LOL.....LOL.....­LOL....LOL...........

    whooo.....hoo...hoo..hoo..I din't never know what she was saying in the song. Bless You...lol...lol..lol.

  • LMAOOOOOOOOOO!!! MAURICE!!! U are a RIOT!!!!!!! I'm on the floor laughing LOLOLOL. LOL @ "Yea you" @ 2:55... Catch me on a bad day, I woulda got up off that organ walked out & let the rest of the song be acapella w/ just her, the drums & the choir. Y she put him on blast like that? Lord folk 4get some words or somethin then always wanna blame the musician. I thought Ashlee Simpson was the only 1 who did folk like that but I guess I was wrong!

  • Youza fool for that last line! LMAO big time!

  • right... they obviously hadn't rehearsed and she's bad-talking the musician and being a complete unprofessional.

  • @mauricezjones forgeting the lyrics has nothing to do with him changing her key... She didn't want to change keys... had nothing do do with lyrics.

  • @muikologist Then perhaps she should learn to play for herself! Then she'd never have to worry about "someone taking her up higher"!

  • @muikologist fyi:  she does play... smh

  • I can see why she looked like that! They ain't rehearse that! The key was already a challenge and pushing her to the edge of her range, he made it very difficult and a "screamer" for her!

  • OK ... the whole exaggerated deal over the key change was so uncalled for and very ametuar..... Sure the musician made a mistake .... but there was no cause for the open attitude in front of the full congregation !!

  • Thank you!I hate it when ppl embarass musicians like that. Its just so unnecessary & ignorant. I'm sure the organist was already embarassed enough when he/she missed the key change but then 4 Vanessa 2 make a big dramatic scene like that probably make it even worse for whoever was playing. Everyone makes mistakes INCLUDING (but not limited to) forgetting lyrics, LOL! I hope shes not still like that nowadays. I'd rather have been the musician on the drums when Dorinda threw the towel at him!

  • Dr. Clark could do that- plain and simple!

  • first of all that is not true the clarks put alums out before Vanessa. They all came up together. You are right the clarks didn't used to run like that back then, but there style evolved, but i wouldn't say they got it from Vanessa I think they gleaned and learned from each other

  • Oh yea... I have a question.

    I know some people that have worked with VBA and have friends/family that have worked with her. They say she is very difficult to work with and can be very rude at times... I was just wondering if that's true.

    Anybody know?

  • My brother who lives in Detriot, and who also plays for Twinkie, said that she was indeed toug, but she was just serious about what she did, because she had such a passion for it. That's why she got respect from so many people across the world; But he did say, you had to know her personally. She was so humble, and she always had such an encouraging word, and she Loved everybody who came her way.

  • That's good. The people that I know had only worked with her one or two times and didn't have a personal relationship with her. Just a music/business relationship.

  • 3:45 was uncalled for. At my church if the choir or praise team or whatever messes up during a song we are NOT supposed to acknowlegde it. Address it in rehearsal and then correct it. Even though they did mess up that "yeah u" during the key change error and her facial expressions were uncalled for too.

  • LOLLL Vanessa is something. She made me cry once.. LOL

  • What Alot of people fell to realize is that Vanessa was the first to really bring all those runs and riffs to the forefront because if you listen to the Clark's albums from back in the day on sound of gospel they were not doing all those runs and riffs that they are so popular for they didn't really start showcasing that on record until the mid to late 80's. Vanessa was the one, people say the Clarks but we have the records to prove it.

  • This is true! Vanessa started doing those intricate runs and The Clark Sisters ran with it. They all sang together when they helped Dr. Clark and Thomas Whitfield. They learned a lot from Vanessa Bell Armstrong during the late '70s and the '80s.

  • The mistake wasn't that bad. I've seen worse. There was no call for 345. Sorry that's down right mean

  • what is 345? ? ? ? or Who is 345 ? ? ?

    and every musician should know this song in their sleep.

    and that Trumpet is still playing wild wrong notes throughout the song, now.... can they hear? ? ? ? ?

    can you hear it?

  • i thought nobody else heard it

  • Will some one please kill the trumpet player,...

    thank you,....very much. lol

  • Whoever was on that organ or in that band was a hot mess. I would've walked off too. Even Mattie was looking around the choir to the band stand like, "who in the world is playing over there? Where's my shoe?" LOL

  • Fareal... I was just thinking that. That mistake STOOD OUT SO MUCH that Dr. Clark probably felt like throwing a brick at him/her rather than her shoe.

  • Now you WRONG for that!!! LOL!!!!

  • Thats real talk tho

  • And did you see her just walk away from the mic and left the choir hanging and Mr. Clean had to finish the song..... OK... now I know she is crazy... LOL.

  • She looked like "no this nigga didnt just mess me up!"

  • Nunya88....

    did you hear her say,...yeh you...

  • Yea I did. I'm a musician... and we all mess up sometimes. It's human nature. But, If I was that musician... I wouldn't want to show my face for a while...

  • 2:53-3:12 what a read...lol I woulda hate to of been the musician who messed the key change up or whatever happened...lol but she still killed it...lol

  • Now that's the way I love to hear Vanessa! SING GIRL!!

  • Vanessa Bell was no joke. I'm proud to see what kind of talent we had coming out of Detroit.

  • nessa is 1 of da greatist female vocalist i ever heard period

  • Okay, but didn't she start singing under Mattie's leadership at 13YO i haven't heard the songs themself but i here she was KILLIN even back then

  • midnighthour....

    VBA was singing in MMC choir at a very young age leading songs on her LP.  I would imagine the "GIRLS" were still practicing. Now you know, I think VBA is a bit older than they are.

  • Could Vanessa possibly be the "true" voice of Gospel music. I mean c'mon...whoe else was doing it like this back then, other than the Clarks, and if my info is correct (please correct me if it ain't) she was doing her thing a little while before them.

  • Parents please remove your child from the middle of the isle @:25... Thank You.... LOL

  • that looks like kierra. she was chillin in the v.i.p. section!

  • Alright now!

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