I'm not really interested in the game I'd just love to paint the models, they look awesome. Big fan of Warhammer games so may give a spin at painting some stuff and dotting my room around with them.
@Stretchball Nah, there's weapons that can negate that save, and Terminators are expensive, as he said. Just looking at that they might seem almost immortal, but they're far from it. You just need to use the right weapons (or just overwhelming firepower/numbers).
My point is it's far from absurd, you just need how to counter it.
Yeah like my Eldar Dire Avengers with a farseer and asurmen bladestormed a squad of 4 devastators and even with guide, they rolled slightly badly only inflicting 13 wounds which all but 4 were saved. I could of done better though.
@bleasdale2007 Yeah, the dice sure can be against you sometimes. I had a full squad use First Rank, Second Rank for almost 30 dice on 4 or 5 Space Wolves, didn't do a thing. On the flip side, I had a lone guardsman survive three hits from a Starcannon once. I get the whole dice game isn't for everyone, but I rather like the random element. A single roll can change the course of the game sometimes :P
i dont think that the best part of this game is playing it, its painting and creating the world :D
i have some of these figures and already painted them, but playing is hard, because you have to dice all the time and after 2 hours it gets really boring...
@Yooric90 Only in such small battles. When you move up to larger games you have more units and you need to start thinking a bit. For example, I play Imperial Guard, and it's not uncommon for me to have over 100 models on the table in larger games. The Guard is very much about lots and lots of shots, so I need to think about where to concentrate my fire, which units are the biggest threat and so on.
@MetalWolf88 I know there is more too it=P I'm not saying this game is just a bunch of dice. I have played it xD or the fantasy one. Not bashing on the game, I think it's cool but I never really learnt how to play. I just sat and read rules and never really got it anyway=S
@Yooric90 Ah, my bad then :P But I agree, if you don't know the rules it's pretty hard to wrap your head around int. My first few games were mostly spent with my nose in the rulebook and trying to figure out what to roll against and so on.
And Fantasy have even more complicated rules, IMO, but each to their own :P
@Chayraz2 There was no reason to. If you fail your armour save you don't get to role your Invulnerable save in addition to that. Say the Berzerkerz had Invuln saves. WHen the Terminators whacked them with their power fists, the Berzerkerz would have rolled their (purely hypothetical) Invlun saves, seen as how the power fists ignore armour.
In this case, the video is to demonstrate moves and stages, not tactics. So if this were how to use the terminators smart it would be. Terminators stay still and open fire. Pretty sure storm bolter's were in range from the initial position. Also is the double fire for space marines still in affect? I have not made any attempt to keep track with the rules.
Thats a good close combat in the end, with lucky rolls the Khorn Beserkers would of won so terminators were the right thing to buy lol. Thanks for teaching me how to play Matthew.
@blueluny The strategy comes in when each side controls multiple squads with different abilities, and they each try to engage in advantageous conditions. When you try to get as many Khorne Berserkers into range for that big charge where all their bonuses come in, and the enemy tries to gun them down before they do so. On the other side, when you try to get the enemy to focus your Terminators, who can take a beating very well (like the first charge), instead of more fragile units.
@TheBAOM It was a question not a criticism. Whereas "rottenvenetic" (see below) has provided a great answer, you've given me a name to go to when someone next asks me "but who ARE those idiots on youtube that respond with crass statements?"
@blueluny i was just making a point that if you thought about it, you would be able to figure it out for yourself. lets not start an argument, so piss off.
@TheBAOM There is no logic in the structure of this dice game. The info the other guy provided was completely unknown to me just like everything else in this game. the only strategy that can be ascertained from all this dialogue is that the next time you mum can have an abortion, she should. you fucking loser.
@blueluny you my friend, need to get laid. and im quite sure your mum and dad did it on the motor-way, because thats where most accidents happen. twat.
@TheBAOM Thats exactly what i was doing with your mum while you were spending all your time learning the rules to warhammer stuff! :) did it take you 24 hours to think up that shit insult? my shit cuss took 2 seconds. about the time it takes you to have an "accident" i imagine. look if you hadnt been such a cunt in your first AND subsequent replies it wouldnt have come to this. dont be such a tool in future. youve just made yourself look like someone who cares FAR too much about a hobby.
@blueluny the last time i picked up a warhammer model was years ago. this is a shared account, and i log on to find you bullshitting at me. get a life, im not on youtube 99% of the time so i cant reply quick can i? maybe if you had not brought our parents up i might explain to you, stop spamming my inbox.
@RabbitLitvyak terminators are an elite choice, and so you can have 3 squads in an army which is 3000points or less. They come in squads of 5 so that 15 terminators. Once you have an army of more than 3000points in total, you can have as many terminators as you want! :D
@RabbitLitvyak so your gonna build an all termie army? Well, you wont be able to use it in games until you have 3000points (which is alot of termies!) and you may want to invest in other units too, remember, people are less inclined to play a game with you if your army lacks diversity because its boring to kill the same thing gover and over. Get a tank and/or some normal marines too so its still fun for the other player.
@mattinater44 You think its 'sad' do you? I do 3 hobbies, fishing, warhammer 40k, and online gaming, but I have to say Warhammer 40k is the best by far. You should certainly give it a try, its a very involving and fun hobby to have! Plus you can personalise it by choosing an army you like with units you like in colours you like, its great!
@PhantomSDK First, learn how to type a proper full sentence, because I could only just decrypt yours. Secondly, hes obviously a sub-human sereotyping fool who judges others for taking part on a hobby which is better than any of his. KTNXBAI
@Oliver200101 First, learn to loosen up and not type full proper sentences on a video where the top rated comments themselves are not proper sentences. Secondly, my message isn't something to decrypt, there's not a complicated solution, anyone with a 3rd grade education could understand it. Third, your judgement of mattinater44 is off of one word and I am guessing you call him a "sub-human stereotyping fool" because many people have made fun of your "hobby". Just ignore these people.
@PhantomSDK It means (okay, thanks, bye!) which is an instant dissmissal so the other person's reply means absolutely shit all no matter how relevant the point is in an internet argument.
i just played my first ever game of 40k last night, i was space marines and my friend was orks. Little confusing getting it right but once we got to assault distance the dice were bein rolled furiously as we wittled each other down. We cant wait to get another go and cant wait to properly learn the rules! :D
@drakinkoren Sounds like you had a great time! I've been watching a ton of videos and trying to learn the rules and startegies with my space marines. Can't wait for MY first game!
Do the power fist/power klaw always ignore the armor? I'm playing orc vs my friend Space marine ( we bought Black reach) and I wonder if my power klaws will ignore he's terminator armor and his vehicle? Please answear me!!
A question, My Hekatrix bloodbrides have 2 attacks each, and with the rule for having pistol and Close combat weapon give 1 extra attack, that means that the bloodbrides will do 3 attacks per model right? :P
@101fmp: oh no. i were at my local GW store earlier and watched a 7 hour long game... They didn`t even get to finish the fight because the store had to close.
i only came across this vid because a random guy on my friends list liked it...no offence to the guy but you seriously look like a virgin who would play this game...but this game, does it have some sort of online game thing ? would sound pretty cool
Terminators can be really bad sometimes because i was was playing with my friend and he only had his ork warboss with 1 wound left against my seargent and 3 terminater... He won flukey or really bad rolling
So how come all the models moved slightly before you follows the termies first armor save? Did they all die or what? So you cheated for tue sake of the tutorial ? Lol jk
So, dreadnought armor vs. the little aliens from the previous tutorial would be really unbalanced powerful? Looks like corn berserkers are much better than those thermal ants.
if they were blood angel terminators with lightning claws attached with a sanguinary priest and a chaplain you could reroll attacks on the assault and reroll saves but at a 4 plus instead, and they would get furious charge as well, put that in a land raider and your good to go, but thats some added stuff to it if you were going to run some blood angels
Thanks for the how to play videos, I appreciate you not using all the "in depth" rules on these videos. I have read some of the comments from the "elitists" and can see how confusing the rules can get once you start putting all the special circumstances in.
@ZecoHumano28 yes they do but the beserkers weren't using anything that denied them their standard 2+ save so you take the best armour save available.
@Dream146 OK Im pretty new to 40K and my friend and i dont really understand all of the rules. I had always thought that if something like a terminator has a +2 armour save and a +5 invulnerable save you roll for armour and if it fails then you roll the invulnerable save. Are you telling me that the invulnerable save only comes into effect if the armour is negated? Im not sure i understand.
@ZecoHumano28 no you only take one armour save, so if for example a terminator is shot by a boltgun which has an Ap of 5 the he can choose to take his 2+ save /or/ his 5+ invulnerable (though there really is no reason to do thisbut I'm pretty sure the choice exists). If he is hit by something that has and AP of 2 or 1 or does not allow armour saves such as a power sword then he cannot take the 2+ normal save and must use the 5+ invulnerable. It is one or the other you don't get to take both.
goddamit these comments from people who think they are so awesome because they point out one tiny rule that he didn't use because its an introductory video are really starting to piss me off...
I believe it was the old Khornate Chainaxes that affected the armor saves of those against them. The latest CSM Codex has removed those to the best of my knowledge (Space Wolves player, never ran across them) with Khorne Beserkers now having a standard CCW, Mark of Khorne, Furious Charge and Fearless.
man if that khorne squad has a champion with a power weapon those termis would of got there asses handed to em! (of course you wuld have to drop a few berzerkers for the champ nd power weapon but definatly worth it)
At the end of the video the terms got two attacks, but in the rulebook the power fist does not give them a additional attack so that last term would only have one attack.
@redchickenproduction Sorry about just looked up my chaos marine codex for the terms and it shows two attackes, so mind trick on me. Thanks for the correction, now that I know this I can cause some pain with my tzeentch terminators.
@starmechs hahaha nice but i prefer to use pain with my nurgle termi's lol for a whole game my nurgle terminators tied up a combat with a Avatar and a 10 man squad of scorpions haha i was so happy and then my berzerkers and death guard plague marines wiped out pretty much everything else ;)
@Aritanya I got told that assault weapons can be wielded as a single handed weapon in close combat and bolters couldn't unless you had the "true grit" special rule or did all that change with 5th ed, (I havnt played many games since it was released so I have no fucking clue and that's just what I got told)
This is in serious favour of the beserkers, them being able to get the furious charge and the extra attack from the charge. Any player would wait for the Zerkers to come into charge range for themselves, the terminators would've been better of waiting and then advancing in the second turn.... Although this does demonstrate the techniques of the game.
@Dexelator I played a kid that would yell skulls for the skull throne and every roll he did was like ones or two. It was hilarious because after he was tired of saying it he destroyed my land raider crusader with a las cannon and killed 4 out of the seven terminators
So Ive watched these 2 sets of example fights but I must say: Wherein comes the strategy?
To me the one that rolls the best dice wins the fight.
Reminds me of the Blood Bowl days for PC. I started loving the game but then as I got better I started hating it. It was too random with all the crazy dice rolls.
@holm76 these videos are just an introduction with very simple rules, hes leaveing out alot of the more complicated rules, if you watch their battle reports you see alot more then just chargeing balls to the walls at each other with no regard to how close combat will become... though sadly at the end of the day :D suprerior strategies can be thwarted by bad dice rolls, just something you gotta prepare for
@holm76 the strategy is that if the terminators had the choice, they would either not charge in order to do more damage to the berserkers, or they would charge in order to deny the berserkers their own charge. The berserkers should always charge given the chance, especially during large scale battles.
At some point in the future will you be tackling morale? It can be a bit of a complicated nightmare remembering all of the places where it's used (I often forget that losing a certain % in the shooting phase warrants a test) I know this series is meant to look at the basics but I'm sure many like me would appreciate a tutorial to give us a mental checklist for when morale comes into play
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u should ahve rolled the armor saves for the sergant terminator alone from the rest terminators...and the berzerkers are fearles they should have taken 2 more saves at the end of the assault phase...seriusly guys... this is not warhammer u are playing!!!
@sikamika9 Remember that I said that I was only going to use the basic rules. Introducing leadership rolls, wound allocation, and all the other extra rules would make this confusing.
This is meant to be an introduction for those who have never played 40k before, not a replacement for the rulebook.
@miniwargaming MWG, im entirely new to this, so theese are really helpful. I have started with some Space Wolves cause they look epix, and in the box to the pack, theres a normal SM arm with a Storm Bolter. Does it count as a Bolter or Storm Bolter?
@Musikkingofthecookie It counts as a storm bolter, but be careful certain weapons are not allowed to go with other weapons on the same model. read the codex for knowing what weapons can be taken specifically
I'm not really interested in the game I'd just love to paint the models, they look awesome. Big fan of Warhammer games so may give a spin at painting some stuff and dotting my room around with them.
Twinklesthecamppanda 6 days ago 3
@Twinklesthecamppanda same here, i would spend sooo much time painting a cool army <3
monoultra4545 2 days ago
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glugluglugable 1 week ago
what about combat resolution? the berserkers lost combat twice and should have taken fearless wounds
TheMortamorJames 3 weeks ago
@TheMortamorJames that is one of th special things they said they were not going to calculate
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Only a 1 can kill a terminator? That's absurd
Stretchball 1 month ago
@Stretchball Nah, there's weapons that can negate that save, and Terminators are expensive, as he said. Just looking at that they might seem almost immortal, but they're far from it. You just need to use the right weapons (or just overwhelming firepower/numbers).
My point is it's far from absurd, you just need how to counter it.
MetalWolf88 1 month ago
@MetalWolf88
Yeah like my Eldar Dire Avengers with a farseer and asurmen bladestormed a squad of 4 devastators and even with guide, they rolled slightly badly only inflicting 13 wounds which all but 4 were saved. I could of done better though.
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@bleasdale2007 Yeah, the dice sure can be against you sometimes. I had a full squad use First Rank, Second Rank for almost 30 dice on 4 or 5 Space Wolves, didn't do a thing. On the flip side, I had a lone guardsman survive three hits from a Starcannon once. I get the whole dice game isn't for everyone, but I rather like the random element. A single roll can change the course of the game sometimes :P
MetalWolf88 1 month ago
can u move back???
gregoryjanoyan 1 month ago
i dont think that the best part of this game is playing it, its painting and creating the world :D
i have some of these figures and already painted them, but playing is hard, because you have to dice all the time and after 2 hours it gets really boring...
TheDanzinger 1 month ago 2
Seems like Warhammer 40k is just alot of dice=S
Yooric90 1 month ago
@Yooric90 Only in such small battles. When you move up to larger games you have more units and you need to start thinking a bit. For example, I play Imperial Guard, and it's not uncommon for me to have over 100 models on the table in larger games. The Guard is very much about lots and lots of shots, so I need to think about where to concentrate my fire, which units are the biggest threat and so on.
So yeah, it's alot of dice, but not just dice ;P
MetalWolf88 1 month ago
@MetalWolf88 I know there is more too it=P I'm not saying this game is just a bunch of dice. I have played it xD or the fantasy one. Not bashing on the game, I think it's cool but I never really learnt how to play. I just sat and read rules and never really got it anyway=S
Yooric90 1 month ago
@Yooric90 Ah, my bad then :P But I agree, if you don't know the rules it's pretty hard to wrap your head around int. My first few games were mostly spent with my nose in the rulebook and trying to figure out what to roll against and so on.
And Fantasy have even more complicated rules, IMO, but each to their own :P
MetalWolf88 1 month ago
Why didn't this exists when I started with Warhammer fantasy when I was 12=S This game is ridiculous hard!
Yooric90 1 month ago
terminators have a sv of 3+ not 2
maverickcorlas 1 month ago
@maverickcorlas no they have 2+/5++
MrWhymetoo 1 month ago
@maverickcorlas
In the 5th ed codex, terminators get 2+ armour and 5+ invulnerable.
Smellydoodies 1 month ago
@Smellydoodies
or 3+ with storm shields which is annoying but shooting from 3 Wraithguard and 6 fire dragons reduced them to 1 out of 5
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@bleasdale2007 N1 :P
Smellydoodies 1 month ago
MILK FOR THE KHORNE FLAKES
LocalRandomz 1 month ago
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headstart9900 1 month ago
@Chayraz2 There was no reason to. If you fail your armour save you don't get to role your Invulnerable save in addition to that. Say the Berzerkerz had Invuln saves. WHen the Terminators whacked them with their power fists, the Berzerkerz would have rolled their (purely hypothetical) Invlun saves, seen as how the power fists ignore armour.
BLasterchief180 1 month ago
Edit partway through because the Berserkers killed the Terminators and this was unacceptable?!
Rascaduanok 1 month ago
Why didn't the terminators get thier 5+ invulnerable save?
Chayraz2 1 month ago in playlist More videos from miniwargaming
wargamers spend most of their money on DICE.
LORDLOSS18 1 month ago
@LORDLOSS18 I never knew dice where so expensive.
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In this case, the video is to demonstrate moves and stages, not tactics. So if this were how to use the terminators smart it would be. Terminators stay still and open fire. Pretty sure storm bolter's were in range from the initial position. Also is the double fire for space marines still in affect? I have not made any attempt to keep track with the rules.
mecas 1 month ago
why did the terminators move instead of shooting and get the charge?
bafparty 1 month ago
what happened to combat resolution?
pimpwacker 1 month ago
you missed the leader ship
TheDonomark 1 month ago
THE IMPERIUM OF MAN RULE!!!!!!!! (I do blood angels)
SilentStabber1010 2 months ago
Oh and by the way guys
SilentStabber1010 2 months ago
Thats a good close combat in the end, with lucky rolls the Khorn Beserkers would of won so terminators were the right thing to buy lol. Thanks for teaching me how to play Matthew.
SilentStabber1010 2 months ago
Hey Matt, can I use your dice for my necrons? I think mine are cursed.
UlyssesWeber 2 months ago
That is a really close fight 0.0 9:33
xX13LoneWolf13Xx 2 months ago
WHERE IS THE BLOOD I WAS PROMISED...oh there it is
moljanor 2 months ago
can you please do Ork Mega-nobz vs Terminators? :D
usedforstufff 2 months ago
thanks blad u well helped
masonman218 2 months ago
Love your videos, thank you so much!
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lol, pause at EXACTLY 10:22 to see some scary glowing eyes xD
benlarden01 3 months ago 2
So can someone explain (quickly) or point me to a vid that shows where the strategy comes into this?
blueluny 3 months ago
@blueluny The strategy comes in when each side controls multiple squads with different abilities, and they each try to engage in advantageous conditions. When you try to get as many Khorne Berserkers into range for that big charge where all their bonuses come in, and the enemy tries to gun them down before they do so. On the other side, when you try to get the enemy to focus your Terminators, who can take a beating very well (like the first charge), instead of more fragile units.
rottenvenetic 3 months ago
@rottenvenetic thanks man.
blueluny 3 months ago
@blueluny open your bloody mind.
TheBAOM 3 months ago
@TheBAOM It was a question not a criticism. Whereas "rottenvenetic" (see below) has provided a great answer, you've given me a name to go to when someone next asks me "but who ARE those idiots on youtube that respond with crass statements?"
blueluny 3 months ago
@blueluny i was just making a point that if you thought about it, you would be able to figure it out for yourself. lets not start an argument, so piss off.
TheBAOM 3 months ago
@TheBAOM There is no logic in the structure of this dice game. The info the other guy provided was completely unknown to me just like everything else in this game. the only strategy that can be ascertained from all this dialogue is that the next time you mum can have an abortion, she should. you fucking loser.
blueluny 3 months ago
@blueluny you my friend, need to get laid. and im quite sure your mum and dad did it on the motor-way, because thats where most accidents happen. twat.
TheBAOM 3 months ago
@TheBAOM Thats exactly what i was doing with your mum while you were spending all your time learning the rules to warhammer stuff! :) did it take you 24 hours to think up that shit insult? my shit cuss took 2 seconds. about the time it takes you to have an "accident" i imagine. look if you hadnt been such a cunt in your first AND subsequent replies it wouldnt have come to this. dont be such a tool in future. youve just made yourself look like someone who cares FAR too much about a hobby.
blueluny 3 months ago
@blueluny the last time i picked up a warhammer model was years ago. this is a shared account, and i log on to find you bullshitting at me. get a life, im not on youtube 99% of the time so i cant reply quick can i? maybe if you had not brought our parents up i might explain to you, stop spamming my inbox.
TheBAOM 3 months ago
@TheBAOM Maybe you need to have words with whoever you let use your account dude. Hostility breed hostility. all the best!
blueluny 3 months ago
@blueluny cheers :)
TheBAOM 3 months ago
That was intense
tanzac15 3 months ago
QUESTIONS?
How do the terminators have 2 attacks in Close Combat? i know the power fist is 1.
But the storm bolter is not a CCW, am i right?
so where does the second attack come from?
Thanks
Tom - NOOB to WH40K
thomasDSoundDesign 4 months ago
@thomasDSoundDesign Terminators have two attacks in their stat line already. :)
Foovirna 4 months ago
@thomasDSoundDesign Terminators get a +1 attack bonus from there 'Terminator Honours' which is already added to there stats. So they have 2 attacks.
Sk8er0208 3 months ago
these how to vids are great! thanks for posting
dagyadg 4 months ago
And this proves that nids are OP
WarothDraath 4 months ago
Bull beserkers pwn termenators
TheSaskue1 4 months ago
how many terminators r u allowed to have in an army...i love terminators!!
RabbitLitvyak 4 months ago
@RabbitLitvyak terminators are an elite choice, and so you can have 3 squads in an army which is 3000points or less. They come in squads of 5 so that 15 terminators. Once you have an army of more than 3000points in total, you can have as many terminators as you want! :D
Oliver200101 4 months ago
@Oliver200101 in that case my army will be " Space Vikings" and i will assault in a mass ocean of terminators
RabbitLitvyak 4 months ago
@RabbitLitvyak so your gonna build an all termie army? Well, you wont be able to use it in games until you have 3000points (which is alot of termies!) and you may want to invest in other units too, remember, people are less inclined to play a game with you if your army lacks diversity because its boring to kill the same thing gover and over. Get a tank and/or some normal marines too so its still fun for the other player.
Oliver200101 4 months ago
awe. the Zerks should have won. :( Those termies were quite lucky.
HytanthasDCS 4 months ago
Those corn berserkers arepretty good
Gamer5449 4 months ago
SAD!!!!
mattinater44 5 months ago
@mattinater44 You think its 'sad' do you? I do 3 hobbies, fishing, warhammer 40k, and online gaming, but I have to say Warhammer 40k is the best by far. You should certainly give it a try, its a very involving and fun hobby to have! Plus you can personalise it by choosing an army you like with units you like in colours you like, its great!
Oliver200101 4 months ago
@Oliver200101 wat if he meant that is was sad that the ones he wanted to win lost, you guys read too much into things.
PhantomSDK 4 months ago
@PhantomSDK First, learn how to type a proper full sentence, because I could only just decrypt yours. Secondly, hes obviously a sub-human sereotyping fool who judges others for taking part on a hobby which is better than any of his. KTNXBAI
Oliver200101 4 months ago
@Oliver200101 First, learn to loosen up and not type full proper sentences on a video where the top rated comments themselves are not proper sentences. Secondly, my message isn't something to decrypt, there's not a complicated solution, anyone with a 3rd grade education could understand it. Third, your judgement of mattinater44 is off of one word and I am guessing you call him a "sub-human stereotyping fool" because many people have made fun of your "hobby". Just ignore these people.
PhantomSDK 4 months ago
@Oliver200101 Flaming them on the internet will accomplish nothing. And to close my argumen, U mad bro?
PhantomSDK 4 months ago
@PhantomSDK your obviously daft, I said KTNXBAI
Oliver200101 4 months ago
@Oliver200101 I don't know what that means my internet companion. :(
PhantomSDK 4 months ago
@PhantomSDK It means (okay, thanks, bye!) which is an instant dissmissal so the other person's reply means absolutely shit all no matter how relevant the point is in an internet argument.
Its a good tool to use.
Oliver200101 4 months ago
@Oliver200101 Haha that would be true if the person who used it had a life that was worth shit. I guess in this instance it would be invalid.
PhantomSDK 4 months ago
@PhantomSDK that made no sense....and it doesnt matter anyway, because I said KTNXBAI
Oliver200101 4 months ago
@mattinater44 Don't like 40k? Don't play it. Stop watching videos for it. Leave our 'nerd games' to us 'nerds'.
BlitzkreigYYZ 4 months ago
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@BlitzkreigYYZ wat if he meant that is was sad that the ones he wanted to win lost, you guys read too much into things.
PhantomSDK 4 months ago
i just played my first ever game of 40k last night, i was space marines and my friend was orks. Little confusing getting it right but once we got to assault distance the dice were bein rolled furiously as we wittled each other down. We cant wait to get another go and cant wait to properly learn the rules! :D
drakinkoren 5 months ago
@drakinkoren Sounds like you had a great time! I've been watching a ton of videos and trying to learn the rules and startegies with my space marines. Can't wait for MY first game!
ThebobbyDee1 5 months ago
I'm currently naked...so I get a power armor save on my gretch.
16piller16lol 5 months ago
@16piller16lol This video scared me a lil bit . but then i laughed . so i took off my clothes
MrLeetBiscuits 5 months ago
@16piller16lol This Comment * scared me a lil bit . but then i laughed . so i took off my clothes
MrLeetBiscuits 5 months ago
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BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!!
SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE!!
MILK FOR MY KHORNE FLAKES!!!!
superguy658 5 months ago
at 6.47 they all moved a bit
pkingstr94 5 months ago
Do the power fist/power klaw always ignore the armor? I'm playing orc vs my friend Space marine ( we bought Black reach) and I wonder if my power klaws will ignore he's terminator armor and his vehicle? Please answear me!!
TvattBjornen94 5 months ago
@TvattBjornen94 They don't ignore invulnerable saves.
MooglesLoL 5 months ago
A question, My Hekatrix bloodbrides have 2 attacks each, and with the rule for having pistol and Close combat weapon give 1 extra attack, that means that the bloodbrides will do 3 attacks per model right? :P
MrLowgaz 5 months ago
1:57 he says shitting phase
qualestorm2112 6 months ago
i like how to last terminator was standing there like WTF!?!?!
sircalumbo 6 months ago
can someone tell me which manual is used for all the the information?
JamDCrazy 6 months ago
if the terminators were to assault the berserkers first, would they get the +1 attack for charging even with a lower initiative?
toyynewspaper 6 months ago
what a power sword do???? Does it just take away armour save or what?????
bigblazer53 6 months ago
Whenever i see an Khorne berserker, i think of corn flakes >.<
MrLowgaz 6 months ago
Your rolling is really bad!!! hahaha i saved 60 2+ saves
Lucaschaer1 6 months ago
I have never touched or seen a real warhammer miniature and I already love this game.
matterman872 6 months ago
@miniwargaming games aren't only 10 minutes long are they?
101fmp 7 months ago
@101fmp: oh no. i were at my local GW store earlier and watched a 7 hour long game... They didn`t even get to finish the fight because the store had to close.
SjOtRiK 7 months ago
i only came across this vid because a random guy on my friends list liked it...no offence to the guy but you seriously look like a virgin who would play this game...but this game, does it have some sort of online game thing ? would sound pretty cool
irishladcfc1 7 months ago
hey matt btw terminatorshave a 5+ invulnerable save.
nerfman09 7 months ago
Terminators can be really bad sometimes because i was was playing with my friend and he only had his ork warboss with 1 wound left against my seargent and 3 terminater... He won flukey or really bad rolling
xXxAlphaLinkxXx 7 months ago
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ummm why doesn't the asp champ have a power weapon?
Greekbeast95 7 months ago
ummm why doesnt the asp champ have a power weapon?
Greekbeast95 7 months ago
I was like OMG terminators dont lose!!!!!!!
Supermegarobotboy 7 months ago
thanks matt this really help me :)
TheChameleon12345678 7 months ago
So how come all the models moved slightly before you follows the termies first armor save? Did they all die or what? So you cheated for tue sake of the tutorial ? Lol jk
PTfilekiller 8 months ago
So, dreadnought armor vs. the little aliens from the previous tutorial would be really unbalanced powerful? Looks like corn berserkers are much better than those thermal ants.
Anonymous247n 8 months ago
why are those Terminators so severely hunchbacked ? :/
StarSpawn06 8 months ago
if they were blood angel terminators with lightning claws attached with a sanguinary priest and a chaplain you could reroll attacks on the assault and reroll saves but at a 4 plus instead, and they would get furious charge as well, put that in a land raider and your good to go, but thats some added stuff to it if you were going to run some blood angels
graffnameseed 8 months ago
Thanks for the how to play videos, I appreciate you not using all the "in depth" rules on these videos. I have read some of the comments from the "elitists" and can see how confusing the rules can get once you start putting all the special circumstances in.
slammedc2003 9 months ago
matt dont terminators have a +5 invulnerable save??
ZecoHumano28 9 months ago
@ZecoHumano28 yes they do but the beserkers weren't using anything that denied them their standard 2+ save so you take the best armour save available.
Dream146 9 months ago
@Dream146 OK Im pretty new to 40K and my friend and i dont really understand all of the rules. I had always thought that if something like a terminator has a +2 armour save and a +5 invulnerable save you roll for armour and if it fails then you roll the invulnerable save. Are you telling me that the invulnerable save only comes into effect if the armour is negated? Im not sure i understand.
ZecoHumano28 7 months ago
@ZecoHumano28 no you only take one armour save, so if for example a terminator is shot by a boltgun which has an Ap of 5 the he can choose to take his 2+ save /or/ his 5+ invulnerable (though there really is no reason to do thisbut I'm pretty sure the choice exists). If he is hit by something that has and AP of 2 or 1 or does not allow armour saves such as a power sword then he cannot take the 2+ normal save and must use the 5+ invulnerable. It is one or the other you don't get to take both.
Dream146 5 months ago
goddamit these comments from people who think they are so awesome because they point out one tiny rule that he didn't use because its an introductory video are really starting to piss me off...
starhawks1 9 months ago 15
you forgot the 5+ save of the Terminator Sargent
pronoob555 9 months ago
6:46-6:47 did anyone see those berserkers move? xD
Must have redid the video cause all of them died xD
021296MaNu 9 months ago 6
Don't chainaxes reduce the enemies armor to a maximum of 4+?
Or was that dropped for easier explanation of the basic rules?
Skullchaser08 9 months ago
@Skullchaser08
I believe it was the old Khornate Chainaxes that affected the armor saves of those against them. The latest CSM Codex has removed those to the best of my knowledge (Space Wolves player, never ran across them) with Khorne Beserkers now having a standard CCW, Mark of Khorne, Furious Charge and Fearless.
MidgardGaming 9 months ago
Damn.
Another reason why I'll never update to 5th edition Chaos.
Never saw such a screwed up codex, holy smokes.
Skullchaser08 9 months ago
man if that khorne squad has a champion with a power weapon those termis would of got there asses handed to em! (of course you wuld have to drop a few berzerkers for the champ nd power weapon but definatly worth it)
redchickenproduction 9 months ago
I would of never thought to use kitty liter as a basing material for Terminators. Interesting.
SpaceWolfPainter 9 months ago
This would have been a great way to show wound allocation as well since you had four power fists and one power sword.
wakcedout 9 months ago
At the end of the video the terms got two attacks, but in the rulebook the power fist does not give them a additional attack so that last term would only have one attack.
starmechs 9 months ago
@starmechs um no the base stats of a terminator is 2 attacks so he would still be allowed to attack with 2 attacks
redchickenproduction 9 months ago
@redchickenproduction Sorry about just looked up my chaos marine codex for the terms and it shows two attackes, so mind trick on me. Thanks for the correction, now that I know this I can cause some pain with my tzeentch terminators.
starmechs 9 months ago
@starmechs hahaha nice but i prefer to use pain with my nurgle termi's lol for a whole game my nurgle terminators tied up a combat with a Avatar and a 10 man squad of scorpions haha i was so happy and then my berzerkers and death guard plague marines wiped out pretty much everything else ;)
redchickenproduction 9 months ago
How convenient that the terminators happen to be just out of assault range.... feel the pain of a furious charge :P
BlackX2011 9 months ago
what happend at 6:45
doomboy222 9 months ago
I know this stuff may seem basic to others, but thank you so much for walking us through the basics!!!
douglaskmeyer 9 months ago
Do Chain Axes not reduce their armour save to a 4+ anymore? Ah man, miss 3rd ed. Chaos.
Vigadeath 9 months ago
Unless those terminators are neo then i have no idea how they missed at that ranged lol
jamster217 9 months ago
I thought the terminators had 3 attacks each? 2 base and +1 for two weapons or are you not counting the additional weapons yet?
juststaydead 9 months ago
@juststaydead Stormbolters are not pistols, and so do not confer +1 attack in Close Combat.
Aritanya 9 months ago
@Aritanya I got told that assault weapons can be wielded as a single handed weapon in close combat and bolters couldn't unless you had the "true grit" special rule or did all that change with 5th ed, (I havnt played many games since it was released so I have no fucking clue and that's just what I got told)
juststaydead 9 months ago
This is in serious favour of the beserkers, them being able to get the furious charge and the extra attack from the charge. Any player would wait for the Zerkers to come into charge range for themselves, the terminators would've been better of waiting and then advancing in the second turn.... Although this does demonstrate the techniques of the game.
Maalve1 9 months ago
I like that Matthew is in like all of the recent videos. =)
masonlyngen 9 months ago
MILK FOR THE KHORNE FLAKES
finalconsecration 9 months ago
can we see some imperials
TheGamemaster66 9 months ago
? at 10:06 that was really close combat???
frankchvz 9 months ago
ahh terminators, every space marine player got a bunch, i got 35 termis and 20 grey knight paladins! :D
hoyer 9 months ago
Now lets try that again...WITH KHARN!!! SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE!
Dexelator 9 months ago
@Dexelator I played a kid that would yell skulls for the skull throne and every roll he did was like ones or two. It was hilarious because after he was tired of saying it he destroyed my land raider crusader with a las cannon and killed 4 out of the seven terminators
frankchvz 9 months ago
@frankchvz
i down say it during games, just on youtube! :D
Dexelator 9 months ago
The first armor save for terminator only 1 died and that's really luck 2 or 3 should have dies from that assault
Grimfred 9 months ago
Fun fact: Terminator armor is made out of Adimantium.
DanTheVikingr 9 months ago
well that terminator just got promoted to sergeant!
SargeantRogers 9 months ago 16
man I havent played 40k in so long
dreadsn1per 9 months ago
teach us tank fights !
Marcustehgreit 9 months ago
why not pit tactical squad against chaos tactical squad? Just to avoid some unhappy people
KubernetePirata 9 months ago
That was TOO intense.
Johnwilkesbouf 9 months ago
Ive been painting but never been playing.
So Ive watched these 2 sets of example fights but I must say: Wherein comes the strategy?
To me the one that rolls the best dice wins the fight.
Reminds me of the Blood Bowl days for PC. I started loving the game but then as I got better I started hating it. It was too random with all the crazy dice rolls.
holm76 9 months ago
@holm76 these videos are just an introduction with very simple rules, hes leaveing out alot of the more complicated rules, if you watch their battle reports you see alot more then just chargeing balls to the walls at each other with no regard to how close combat will become... though sadly at the end of the day :D suprerior strategies can be thwarted by bad dice rolls, just something you gotta prepare for
Faydwarf 9 months ago
@holm76 the strategy is that if the terminators had the choice, they would either not charge in order to do more damage to the berserkers, or they would charge in order to deny the berserkers their own charge. The berserkers should always charge given the chance, especially during large scale battles.
1337lolguyman 9 months ago
good vid tanx!
coolsskin 9 months ago
At some point in the future will you be tackling morale? It can be a bit of a complicated nightmare remembering all of the places where it's used (I often forget that losing a certain % in the shooting phase warrants a test) I know this series is meant to look at the basics but I'm sure many like me would appreciate a tutorial to give us a mental checklist for when morale comes into play
EliteOM3G4 9 months ago
40k is easy. move shot clobber. done.
greenghost2008 9 months ago
WTF what are those 10 minutes long adds about the end of the world now?! What is youtube doing next...?
Toxicrafa 9 months ago
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u should ahve rolled the armor saves for the sergant terminator alone from the rest terminators...and the berzerkers are fearles they should have taken 2 more saves at the end of the assault phase...seriusly guys... this is not warhammer u are playing!!!
sikamika9 9 months ago
@sikamika9 Remember that I said that I was only going to use the basic rules. Introducing leadership rolls, wound allocation, and all the other extra rules would make this confusing.
This is meant to be an introduction for those who have never played 40k before, not a replacement for the rulebook.
miniwargaming 9 months ago 95
@miniwargaming oh sorry then! seems i missed that note... :P
sikamika9 9 months ago
@miniwargaming MWG, im entirely new to this, so theese are really helpful. I have started with some Space Wolves cause they look epix, and in the box to the pack, theres a normal SM arm with a Storm Bolter. Does it count as a Bolter or Storm Bolter?
Musikkingofthecookie 9 months ago
@Musikkingofthecookie It counts as a storm bolter, but be careful certain weapons are not allowed to go with other weapons on the same model. read the codex for knowing what weapons can be taken specifically
juststaydead 9 months ago
@juststaydead Ok thanks :D
Musikkingofthecookie 9 months ago
@miniwargaming Remember the bezerkers are 210 pts and the termies are 200 pts
Haloister 9 months ago
@miniwargaming Do you at one point explain this stuff?
NexusARC 8 months ago
@miniwargaming thats still not an excuse to plainly ignore those rules without mention
TheDeceitfulGamer 8 months ago
@miniwargaming I realize this, but you should have an advanced how to play 40k where you use the full rules, and explain about codexes.
nerfman09 7 months ago
@miniwargaming how do you make the water?
THELARANANG123 5 months ago