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  • Does anyone else feel weird and light headed after watching this?

  • I couldn't care less what happens to my body when I die

  • the executioners must have been sadists

  • FREEEEEEDOOOOOM!!!

  • The English have a lot to answer for invading so many countries around the world and de-stabilising them. That karma will return to them in due course.

  • It seems like those people executing someone is just an nasty as they are

    i mean come on the wheel who ever performed that has no morals

  • 2:42 Lets play Wheel of MISfortune!!

  • @BitchslapBlacky88, William Wallace was not a Nigger, he would bitch slap Niggers around like they were Engaylishmen.

  • The Church DOES make people do terrible things. Always has and always will.that's why intelligent people loath it so much and its insidious power and immoral wealth. Dawkins, Hitchens, Dennet, Harris and many, many more and I would like to see it gone for good. It perpetuates lies and encourages belief in such nonsense as the Devil and all manner of superstitious crap.

  • @bitchslapwhitey88 i havent heard "HONKY" since The Jeffersons...

  • @bitchslapwhitey88 if William Wallace was a nigger, I don't think he would lived as long as he did.

  • @TRYER25 I don't think his race had anything to do with how long he lived, Im not really sure the English just let him off a bit longer because he was white. I think you kinda have a picture of all white people looking like rambo and all black people looking like lenny henry. Not sure if it works like that in the real world.

  • ppl are sick...who the hell even applied for the job of executioner?

  • @chykim1 The job was paid pretty well, so in a time when you either earned money or starved, probably quite some people. And the, there's sociopaths for example...

  • Only humans could come up with sick ideas on how to kill. Dont get me wrong i wouldnt mind this happeng to Ian Huntly or any pedos

  • Proof that all kings and queens here on earth are pure evil!!! They all inbreed with their own families to guarantee the throne never gets to any other race or person outside their own families. They keep inbreeding and bring goofy children in our world!

  • Freedoom

  • FRIITOOSSS!!

  • And these same people called indigenous people SAVAGES!

  • @VAMPYBITES the arrogance of europeans still persists today

  • @poosaypirate

    I've noticed!

  • @VAMPYBITES What a pompous knob you are.

  • @TheSirPrise

    TRUTH HURTS,EH!?

  • @VAMPYBITES No not at all, becuase it's not truth. I find it odd that you claim that Europeans are arrogance with a comment that is clearly meant to be read in a tone of superiority, which in turn is arrogant.

    Yes, Europeans did have horrible ways of executing people but please note, that most of these executions were to punish crimes, not because they believe it would make the sun rise the next day.

  • @TheSirPrise Dear Sir, I am not arrogant nor pompous. I, with many years of reading,and watching history type channels my eyes have opened. Beside punishments of crimes,torture was used for many reason. And, what I meant by.. "And these same people called indigenous people SAVAGES!" How can one do these torturous actions and then have the nerve to call others "savages". "..pompous knob" in deed. I love it,it made me smile. :) No hard feeling. Peace out. V^^^^V
  • @VAMPYBITES You assume that all Europeans call the native American (I assume that is what you mean) popu

    lace 'savages'. Yes I garuntee you, you cannot find a single quote from a modern European who has said this.

  • @TheSirPrise I dont see the difference they punished people of 'crimes' of blasphemy to appease their God, no difference to any other culture at that time. Europeans were as 'savage' as the people they claimed were savages. They just had more clothes on.

  • @ThepigandThemonkey " Europeans were as 'savage' as the people they claimed were savages. They just had more clothes on."

    Ok first of all, although I disagree with you, that is an epic comment. Now that's out of the way I would agree that killing people in the name of religion (inquisition) was highly ignorant however, we progressed passed that stage in to the renaissance and later the age of enlightenment, we spear headed both science, art, music, fashion (not all that important), technology.

  • @TheSirPrise to be fair I don't really know who you are referring to when you say savages. Europeans were progressive in the fields of science, technology etc. but can you define people as 'savages' because they have a certain belief and have not had the luck of a renaissance.

  • @ThepigandThemonkey I wouldn't exactly call the rebirth of culture, the development of new philosophies and the destruction of the stranglehold religion had on European society as 'luck'.

  • humans are a terrible species

  • @crazyknight2008 Not "are", "can be". There are good people in the world, surprisingly. Plus there are whole societies who fight torture. But I see what you're saying, it's such a scary thought that a side like this exists in humans.

  • worst audio ever.

  • These primitive people are all animals...

  • @bapan1977 Well how can animals be civilized?

    makes no sense to call them primitive.

    hah.

  • @nintwiggy6491

    Primitive means the origins and progress of civilization....

    hah.

  • @bapan1977 Um. I didnt ask you what primitive means...

    

  • @nintwiggy6491

    But you should know...the meaning dear.

  • @bapan1977 Youre one of those people that just form words but doesnt mean anything.

    You speak but you dont communicate.

    Read your first comment and name me one animal that isnt primitive.

    PS- Your definition of primitive is a little off

  • @nintwiggy6491

    A major group of multicellular, Eukaryotic organisms of the kingdom Animalia or Metazoa. Their body plan eventually becomes fixed as they develop, although some undergo a process of metamorphosis later on in their life. Most animals are motile. All animals are also heterotrophs, meaning they must ingest other organisms or their products for sustenance. Vernanimalcula guizhouena is a fossil believed by some to represent the Non- Primitive mammalian .

    Regards,

    Your obedient pupil.

  • William Wallace died by public torture and beheading at the Tower of London. Before he was beheaded he shouted ''FREEDOM!!!'' and 9 years after he died, Robert the Bruce, the Scottish king, and the army fought the English and Scotland won, he declared freedom. Thumbs up if you agree with me

  • @AbubotAbaby

    He was honoured by Rowan Atkinson with a bravery award.

    Thumbs up if you agree with me

  • savages.

  • @RayDandy some call em that, others call em our Ancestors

  • @nintwiggy6491 for what it's worth my ancestors were savages as well,my heritage is hardly noble.

  • I wish I were british. I think that their history is far more interesting. I lived in england for a year but I was only 6. :)

  • !st to suffer hanged drawn and quartered was Dafydd, brother of Llewellyn last prince of Wales,in Shrewsbury market olace in 1283!

  • @MrAndrewAbe biggest bunch of self arse lickin bastards*

  • this is nothing compared today because getting anal'ed by 10 people inside the jail is too much humiliation..lol

  • freeeeedooooooommmmmmmmmm.....­...........!

  • Noone expects the Spanish Inquisition!

  • @Scardy The wha-*that entrance ensemble*

  • i like the spooky music

  • It was appalling cruelty but it was the 13th century!

  • find it kinda ironic that a nun knows and talks about such stuff lol.

  • Prince Daffydd, brother of LLywellyn last prince of Wales was the first person to be hanged drawn and quartered, in Shrewsbury in 1283, some 20+ years before William Wallace!

    alun Cymraeg!

  • william wallace in defiance of the english tyranny, RIP william

  • william wallace never done a crime...he was just wanting to be free if im not mistaking?

  • The narrator failed to mention the reason of the intense fear of becoming an anatomical specimen. It was believed that without proper burial in consecrated ground that the person could not have eternal rest. At least I read that somewhere.

  • @jnb38363 that was the belief.

  • William Wallace was someone who was destined for greatness, RESPECT!!!!!

    R.I.P William Wallace.

  • "...and beat the body, broke the body" with a little smirk on his face.

  • evil...pure evil...

  • I think they still execute people like this in Texas.

  • Is this the first or second part? the name of the vid doesn't matches the description.

  • FREEEEDOOOMMMM!!!

  • The Spanish Inquisition was actually your standard kill-and-torture dissidents routine. What makes it special is the church being involved. Between 2,000 and 10,000 people were executed.

    There have been over 100 million civilian deaths as a result of Atheist/Marxist/Fascist regimes in the 20th Century. Let's try to keep our eye on the ball.

  • @YesWeCantaloupe What many people forget is that the Inquisition took place under the auspices of the church in Spain, but the Pope actually tried to stop it. It took place at the insistance of Queen Isabella. It was mostly political, not religious.

  • catholic church fucking catholic church demonic pope devil priest all of you go to hell

  • @MrRealmarlon You know nothing of the Catholic church, religion doesnt make people do bad things, people do.

  • @tjlovato1120 People do bad things but people use religion as an excuse for these things.

  • @Bouchon211

    even without religion humans are capable of outstanding cruelty.

  • @Informateux True. But that supports my point, cruel people may not do cruel things BECAUSE of religion (although some have and do), but simply use religion and religious beliefs as an excuse for this cruelty.

  • @Bouchon211

    I can`t even conceive the suffering these people had to endure. That`s just mind-blowing.

  • @Informateux, Arguably the worst method of execution ever? If there's one thing that i appreciate about being English it's the history we have, even if it's as unpleasant as this :)

  • @abbadeemus What a bizzare post.

  • @tjlovato1120 yes, your right, because people create religion

  • @Slifer128 Your missing the point. Its not about religion, if someone believed strong enough in something, it could cause them to do anything. If I believed that a chair wanted me to kill someone strong enough, and I did it, it would be how I interpreted it. Not because of religion.

  • and for that reason they took advantage of the same human stupidity, and took advantage of religion.Anyway, im tolerant with religion.

  • @tjlovato1120 he doesn't know anything about the Catholic Church and you know nothing about Religion. Religion does make people do bad things, but only people can do the killing.

  • @tjlovato1120 Good men do good things

    Bad men do bad things

    But to make a good man to bad things? That takes religion.

  • @tjlovato1120 perfectly said religion was only used as an excuse.

  • @tjlovato1120

    In the ordinary moral universe... The good will do the best they can. The worst will do the worst they can.

    But if you want to make good people do wicked things, you’ll need religion.

    -Steven Weinberg

  • @tjlovato1120 if you believe it's good to follow religion, and religion tells you to do horrible things, then yea, religion makes you do horrible things. If you think i'm wrong, then i think you should open a history book, and more important you should read the damn bible.

  • @tjlovato1120 that is probably the biggest load of bullocks i have ever heard in my life...that is like saying nazism doesn't make people do bad things, people do.

  • @ThepigandThemonkey Yeah? "Nazism" didn't make anyone do anything, it took a little persuasion..from hmmm, whats his name ADOLF HITLER?

  • @tjlovato1120 Yes but Hitler used Nazism to indoctrinate people to systematically follow Nazi ideals, many ppl who were in Germany at that time were not psychopaths they needed to be indoctrinated through a cult of personality and a cult of imagery.Just like the Catholic church people will listen to the ideals of a bigoted individual and through the guise of Catholicism the will, will be followed. Catholicism is the tool to allow certain bad things to happen.

  • @tjlovato1120 Ah but religion puts those bad thoughts in peoples minds.The church was immensely powerful and people were afraid to contradict them so off they merrily went torturing and killing in the name of "God" Fucking right I'm an atheist.

  • @tjlovato1120 yes and no. I truly believe the power and fear of religion has caused people to do many "bad" things

  • @sarabower1 Yes,  but its however the person interprets their religion. I doubt the people who did that William Wallace heard a voice from the sky telling them to do it. People use religion as an excuse but in the end who killed him? god? No. People? Yes.

  • @MrRealmarlon

    Well said my friend.

  • the song in the back ground is off fable 2 when ur in the shadow court

  • the music is soooo creepy, gives me goose bumbs

  • @draygon707 what is creepy is the nun who is some kind of expert in torture, pain and suffering..

  • How could Willam Wallace scream freedom when he was being disembowled? That doesn't make any sense.

  • @Patrick49623 That's called artistic license my friend. I doubt even the most resolute person could manage that while having his guts torn out. If you check the facts, most of Braveheart was highly inaccurate. Still a damn fine film though.

  • Jesus Christ

  • Nothing like fear to keep society under control

  • @GearNagaX Aint that the truth......New World Order is proving that........

  • @GearNagaX Execuation actually did keep the society disciplined, if they still could use these..we'd be more controlled than now. We're just a rebellious society.

  • @GearNagaX Couldn't have said it better myself

  • the worst kind of torture would be to jus have chuck norris be there staring at you 4 ages n not knowing when hes gonna strike

  • @sdun86 Or being forced to watch one of his movies.

  • Believe me, this is nothing compared to the Chinese "death by a thousand cuts" where they strap you onto a "wooden donkey" and come after you with a filet knife. During the end of the Ming Dynasty, a great general falsely accused of treason was executed this way. 3,000 cuts and he never uttered a sound!

  • WE CAN USE THIS TRICKS ON PAEDOPHILES !

  • @SuperPeterpig after they waste their breath preaching the bible!!

  • Human being's always been SAVAGE...

  • wallace did not scream freedom hehehehe

  • NIce to know nothing has changed within the Latin church.

  • Wallace was just another brigand warlord. Check the history.

  • @bluenail90

    Such say the English and the upper classes, but the people know the truth.

  • Haha Catherines a fat bitch

  • i dont kno about the rest of u, but i would confess

  • There is a point in where you surpass the point of any basic animal or suvival instinct and it becomes spiritual and demonic.

  • I wonder if God regrets creating this sorry human race? Violence, warfare, inhumanity towards each other constantly. Surely he can't be pleased at what he sees.

  • @mrjforall did he make you say those words, NO so you said them with your own free will god does not create monsters we choose to do that ourselves

  • NOOOOOO wiliam wallece shouldnt of been killed like that!!

  • Willam Walace ...Hannabal ..and Salahedin ..are the most greatest heros in human history

  • was to good for the jock git ! .................... long shanks on tour ! best king of england ever. wish we had him now !

  • sorry died for Scotland

  • He died of Scotland

  • think i'll have sausages for dinner, thanks for the inspiration

  • you want me to confess to something, all you gotta do is flick my nutsack.

  • people divides people

  • hhahah...that guy said..."the struggling...."victim".... should he have said "suspect" instead or should there be more appropriate terminology???

  • disgusting!!!

  • It's important to remember that people of so many religions through the ages have inflicted appalling and brutal tortures on people, many of them innocent of any 'crime' they were supposed to have committed. Harsh to slate for example, just Catholics, or just Protestants.

  • Also, it's common knowledge that the majority of Braveheart is basically the antisemetic Mel Gibson's 'fantasy' about what happened, based on only a small amount of fact. Yes, us English were bastards at the time (which is no resemblance of how we are now, even though unfortunately the hatred will go on forever), but William Wallace and his men killed innocent women and children (I also read his army raped women), so he's not a true hero in my eyes. And you can slate me all you want.

  • @SiLatics56 That,s true, William wallace and his troops raped and murdered with reckless abandon, though i do not condone the way he was executed, I can't say i feel sorry for him.

  • Just want to say, NO one deserves this kind of death, but much better people than him suffered this horrific execution. Look at Catholic martyrs such as Saint Edmund Arrowsmith and numerous other Catholic priests, killed during the reigns of Elizabeth I of England and James I of England (James VI of Scotland).

  • thats a tru freedom fighter william wallace is my hero i am hal scotish and i am proud to be and so was william he gave his last breath for freedom....RIP william wallace many people have forgoten you but i never will.

  • "Freedom!!!!!!!!

    RIP William Wallace

    I think I would rather by HDQ than flayed alive. Can you imagine being skinned alive by the local tanner?

  • This guy was as hardcore as they come.

  • Anyone else feel that the sound is a bit wobbly?

  • Hanged Drawn & Quartered, the most cruel and evil punishment ever created for traitors and catholics. Poor William Wallace and all other victims of this form of "Justice" R.I.P.

  • This is very interesting :)

    *****

  • There are no comtempoary portarits of Wallace and this artists impression of him looks more like a wet labour leftie than a battle hardened patriot. Dont know why its accepted as a likeness of him.

  • was he really the inspiration for robin hood?

  • Yes so Ive heard but reading about the cruelty of the nobles in Britain there must have been 10 if not hundreds of Robin Hood Like characters who have long since been "removed" from our histoy

  • wallace is a true hero

  • @darylad2009 wallace wasn't just a true hero ! but a man

  • @darylad2009 True hero? He executed women and children in York and murderd more highlanders than the English, and you call him a hero?

  • @grobo11

    THIS PISSES ME OFF. i dont get it. did wallace actually do the shit you mentioned or was it just the english selling lies to the everyone to creat a monster in the publics eyes?

  • @guitar19904 Look it up yourself. Selling lies? I bet you haven't even studied William Wallace I bet you just fucking watched braveheart. They couldn't have made a more innacurate film if they tried, if they had Wallace ride on a big pink elephant into battle it would probably be more accurate than the pile of dribble Mel Gibson came up with.

  • @grobo11

    first of all get off your thrown and stop acting big. like your a history major or somthing else lol im aware armys and figures where infact brutal back in those days because they were LEARNING HOW to be more civil throught evolution.

    HOWEVER! wallace was infact considerd a terrorist by the english. SURELY they would be making him a monster in the public eye to ensure NO enlgish citizens will feel that their country is in fact wrong for wronging the scotish thus causing defection.

  • @guitar19904 Well.........No. Society back then and now are totally different. There is no media to create propoganda and all historians up-held an oath of truth no matter what authority said otherwise, also the English and Scottish accounts have been compared and both are remarkebly similar (it was only the number in armies that were slightly different etc.) Also the people of York supported the Scottish, York is borderd to Scotland and they became friendly with each other.

  • @grobo11

    "No. Society back then and now are totally different."

    I Realise this i just got through saying that. humanity HAS EVOLVED from how we were before. propoganda doesnt necessarily need computers radio and televsion to reah the masses, so IM 100% sure propoganda could of been enforced on during that time. im aware og the differences between british and the english. also fuck off my channell, its creepy that you even view it after we bearly even have a discussion

  • @grobo11

    in short do you feel that what you are reading is OLD OLD british properganda? thats just been noted down in history. it could all be reallly old lies to ensure that people hated him. similare to osama (execpt me and you are both aware hes a guilty party)

  • @guitar19904 Old British properganda? On your youtube channel it says you're from the UK yet it astonishes me that you do not know the difference between the British and English. Anyway, no it isn't propoganda it is documented truth, haven't you looked it up yet? Also why haven't you considerd the other point of view? How do you know that William Wallace's actions and the actions of those of the English were all Scottish propoganda? Propoganda such as...............Braveheart?

  • @grobo11

    so what your sayiing is that scotland recorded history and englands is very similare to each other, thus proving it that wallace was just a brutal war lord?if so then why do scotts big him up so much ?

  • @guitar19904 Creepy? I'm not going to fucking rape you, calm down. Also there was no propoganda back then as there was no need for it. The nobled indulged themselves in war and pleasure and the peasents were too busy trying to stay alive and work their farms than to be concerned about a war, propoganda was created during the early 18th century. The reason why the Scottish 'big' him up so much is because they know nothing about him. Before Braveheart hardly anyone had heard of William Wallace.

  • @grobo11

    no dude its a little creepy, honestly. i disagree, i believe that there could of been a source of proporganda. "Before Braveheart hardly anyone had heard of William Wallace." im SO sure they did. but anway if what you are saying is correct then i stand corrected.

  • @guitar19904 No one in Scotland knew about him, the children didn't even learn about him in school untill braveheart. If this wasn't the case then why do you have so many people shouting "FREEEEEEEEEEEEEDOM" When he never utterd a bloody word at his execution apart from screaming. If you look any of this stuff up instead of 'believeing' then that way you can state a fact. Also there's nothing 'creepy' about it, I simply pressed on your youtube account name,

  • @grobo11

    first OF ALL I DONT HOLD BRAVEHEART AS EVIDENCE YOU IDIOT.

    stop assuming shit. SECONDLY im aware that wallace wouldnt of scream'd freedom; its beyond impossible in that given scenario, he was fucked. im aware of HOW inaccurate the film is. 'believeing'? your so fucking SMUG. oh look a spelling error; this is pretty much were you get your ammunition from.

    GRAMMER TROLL's like you are pathetic. also i have looked up on wallace BUT not in too much detail as you have, this i can admit.

  • @guitar19904 Whose assuming? I have family in Scotland and cousins who are 20-30 years of age who had no idea who Wallace was until Braveheart came out. Smug? Just because you don't like hearing the truth that doesn't make ME smug, it just makes you an over-reacting arsehole who couldn't tell monday from Norway. Get my ammunition from? When have I ever pointed out your numerous spelling an grammar errors in your comment?

    I think you need to grow up and stop being such a little girl.

  • @grobo11

    also it is creepy of you considering i only had posted a comment like once. its just pretty sad that you insisted on looking at my personal details on my page like a SAD devouring TWAT just to prove a fucking point. CREEP, i think i can hear the flutter of your white straitjacket.

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  • @guitar19904 There's nothing 'creepy' about it, are you ten? Because only small children would react in such a way.

    'sad', 'like once' would you like me to point out numerous other grammar and further back in your previous spelling mistakes? Seeing as you started it it seems fitting that I end it, then again do you really want the 'spelling police' on your tail? Stop over-reacting susie and start arguments that you cannot win based on 'believing' rather than facts.

  • @grobo11

    guess what sweeti, THERE WAS NOOOOO ARGUMENT TO BEGIN WITH.

    if anyone ask's people like a question you get into a frenzy of proving how the others are wrong. i asked you a question, and that question was if what you had stated was factual or just smeard proporganda. THERE WAS NO ARGUMENT, you just got into a bitch fit.

    all in all if what you are saying about wallace is true then i stand corrected. DID O NOT SAY THIS BEFORE? cant you see the compramises i have made

  • @guitar19904 If you're wondering. Well if the Northern English and Lowland Scottish were such good friends then why the massacre? The reason was that Wallace became drunk on glory and sought to conquer England and so he took an army of a vast majority of HIGHLANDERS (No communication with the English at all) and so went to York and slaughtered the innocent there, women, children the old etc. All on Wallace's order. The English took revenge of course and hung, drew and quartered that bastard.

  • its amazing how brutal people could be, but i guess its all conditioning, when people have been in war & witnessed execution & dismemberment, they can become numb to it..

    to the executioner cutting open a live human is no different to cutting open an animal..the scene in braveheart was sanitized 2 say the least- in reality there must have been blood all over the place

    but who where those executioners thats what i'd like 2 know, they must have been very scary & disturbed individuals indeed!

  • Yeah, I thought the scene in braveheart was really dumbed down. It didn't show the brutality of it at all.

  • William Wallace is a hero rarely seen Serbian people admires to him because it reminds us to our history and suffering. Scotts, be proud of this because you have a hero like William, many states would wish such a hero! Serbia has a many of them but keeps them with passion because people who practically have no history trying to incorporate them!

    With faith in God!

  • milos obelic

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    i am really curious to learn abt my history since i was never in my country The Great Serbia....ja sam u ghani....serbia vs ghana ko mislis da ce da pobedi

  • And also misleading facts all his limbs were placed on the tower of London as a warning to all, not just the Scots, anyone who defied edward would receive the same fate. However in Scotland it had the opposite effect as Wallace was then a martyr to their cause and enradged the Scots and gave them even more reason to fight.

    Enter Robert The Bruce, who was no saint himself

  • english bastards killed the scotts

  • am a scot, and a knew Wallace's death was an absolute horrible one, watching this makes it seem alot worse than watching his death in braveheart, as a scot, a find this very hard to watch this

  • How is it possible that England, its king and law charged Wallace with Treason when he was never a subject of the English, at the time his King, was Baliol of Scotland. The english really dont have much of a history other than a barbaric, war mongering nature.

  • And what of the History of Execution in other Countries like Spain, France, Italy, The Turks, Arabs, & the Japanese & Chinese. They all had dreadful ways to torture & Execute their own People!

  • I agree. Even America did. Look at what happened at the Salem Witch Trials. Or killing the indians. I think every country had a way of torturing people

  • Edward considered himself (and his ancestors and heirs to come) as an overlord of Scotland, particularly after the succession crisis. When Wallace rose as a leader of the uprising in Scotland, there was no king of Scotland. Edward I had consistently attempted to undermine Balliol's power. He demanded he pay homage to him, pay him money for defense of England, etc. Eventually a council of 12 set up by the Scots, tired of what they saw as a weak pathetic king, took power out of his hands...

  • ...Edward, outraged by this, invaded Scotland and defeated them at the Battle of Dunbar and thus stripped of his crown. Then Edward laid down claims to power over Scotland. Wallace was viewed as a subject of an English king and therefore his behaviour was considered treacherous.

    (Sorry if I sound like a know-it-all - I couldn't resist - I spent a whole year studying this in my final year of school ^_^)

  • Your not a know it all though, considering one doesnt commit treason unless he himself has sworn himself to the sovereign state, at the time you are correct Scotland had no King but it wasnt recognised as being ruled by England. Wallace never swore an oath or an alligiance to the throne of England so therefore committed no treason. Technically speaking. However in the eyes of Edward he had.

  • I know but I was referring to how Edward viewed the situation. That and I'm pretty sure that people don't go about willy-nilly declaring oaths to kings unless they are noblemen or serving within the king's household so technically anyone could be seen to be committing treason e.g. If I killed Elizabeth II then I'd probably be convicted of treason as well as regicide.