@johnk1302 google "mallincam"... they aren't cheap, but they aren't that expensive either. Cool stuff you can do these days with some "modest" equipment. Cant wait to see what we've got 20 years into the future!!
Hey, Can I ask can a Mallincam be used with lets say a nexstar 6se or CPC 800 for example? or are there certain telescopes that can be used with it, any advice would be greatly apreciated.
How long would you have to observe a galaxy like this one to see a noticeable difference in the arm position? I would guess many many years, but what do I know.
@johnk1302 The video camera does stack the video frames. In the video above you'd be 14 seconds behind live. I haven't used filters, but there are many Mallincam users out there who do, and like them, especially light pollution filters. The above video was shot with a Celestron 14", but we're doing better now with smaller scopes and better cameras. I viewed it in Utah, good skies, and the camera naturally magnifies to that FOV.
@italicslob Well, it's a video. If you'd just get a Mallincam you'd see if for yourself (if you have a telescope). I can't believe how far behind so many of you are. I see these images, in this color, in this way, with this clarity, ALL OF THE TIME, and even professional astronomers are blown away. I'll be seeing Orion, the Flame, the Horsehead, the Running Man, M78, and a dozen others in their full color glory and clarity, AND in 3d, in approximately four nights from now....again. It's a video!
Very nice, do you also see the galaxy that detailed (but black n white) or is is slightly worse with the eye? I haven't seen it because of the light pollution in my area, I bare saw the core of the triangulum galaxy with 8"....
@lukasz749 Nope, it's a video. Shot it myself. Don't know how many times I'm gonna have to tell this crowd. IT'S A VIDEO. So just accept it. Today is November 1, and I'll be going out to look at video of deep space objects all night tonight, using a Starizona Hyperstar, which considerably speeds up the scope for videography or photography. Look it up. Maybe you'll get convinced. Just because you're so far behind the times doesn't mean that I am.
Nope, it's a video. If you guys would just get a Mallincam you'd see it for yourself. I've decided the next time I do some video captures I'm going to tap on the scope so that you all can see the movement. But why not just get with the program, obtain one of these cameras and view it for yourself?
It is a video. When you dudes gonna give it up and go get a high-end video camera and get rid of those pointless eyepieces? It's a video. Get used to it.
And I'm shooting even better video now, because the cameras are better. And I'm now using a 2d to 3d converter between the camera and the monitor and am seeing these beauties in pseudo 3d now, and it's more incredible than ever.
That doesnt matter, if the light havnt reached us yet it would mean that we wouldnt even be able to SEE the galaxy. The light which was sent, lets say 10 years ago, have reached us now so we should be able to see how it moved 10 years ago. It doesnt freeze just because of the distance. It doesnt appear to move because of the size of the galaxy.
it DOse look different now, This is 31 Million Lightyears away from earth, wich means, it takes the Light from this 31 Million Years to Travel to earth, so when you look at it, you seee it 31 million Years ago... your looking 31 millions years into back in time
No. You'd need at least a 50" mirror to see it like this with eyepieces. With the 14" with which this was shot, in excellent conditions you see it as a gray spiral with decent detail in the arms, and with the right magnification it takes up about 1/3rd of the view.
Excellent video. Wish I could see this amount of detail in my 14inch dob but there's too much light pollution in S. London & mirror has a turned-down edge, ugh!
I have this excat NASA photo as my Windows Vista background, I love it! But why make a video of this photograph and claim it as your own? Seems a little unethical, dont you agree?
let's stop the pretending. This isn't a video...the camera takes a short exposure and then shows you the image on the monitor, this process is repeated. 1 frame every 10 seconds is hardly video.
There are very few telescope on earth that would give you a view like this through the eyepiece (mostly because all of the big telescopes don't use eyepieces).
Wrong. It's video. Shot it myself and captured it directly. What it is is 128 frames per 12 second aperture-open exposure, so the image captured is 12 seconds behind live viewing. Sorry, but you're wrong. Whole new paradigm, and the amateur astronomy world just needs to catch up a bit.
Amazing. I'm trying to get photos of M51 with a celestron cpc11 and an orion starshoot II, I'm not even close to those results, all I get is a (very) blurry spyral. Can you share how you achieve that result?
It's a MallinCam video camera set on all the optimal video capture settings. The M51 "image" is in fact a video capture direct from the camera into video capture software and then uploaded as is to YouTube.
Probably should mention that these video cameras have made still astrophotography mostly obsolete, but obviously we'll never be able to get captures like the best amateur and professional work out there. But we're getting to see the images live on our monitors, immediately, without having to do hours of exposure, and then move onto other objects, 30 a night, if we want.
i might buy a 4 inch skymax cassegrain scope. i know the aperature is small, but what can i expect to see at 50x with this scope on a clear night.... i imagine it will be two bright cores with a haze surrounding them. i think i might just be able to see the bridge that joins them with averted vision. i'm looking for an all round scope with binoviewers to get similar views of galaxies as you would in giant binoculars but better on planets, moon and clusters
Not without a camera. With my 14" Celestron and 2" binos I could make out two bright cores and the bridge, but not well, and that was in very good seeing conditions. If you add the camera, however, you'll see it the way it would be seen with an 18" Dob, for example.
It's always about light-gathering, and I don't know what a 4se is, and it doesn't seem to be listed on Celestron's site. However, whatever scope you have, it's going to emulate a scope of 4 times its aperture when using a camera.
you could see M51 but not with nearly this much detail. from a dark site you would see the cores as faint (probably very faint in the 4se), fuzzy looking patches of light
Galaxies do tend to be pretty stationary when viewed from our perspective, but that's because we're tracking it. If we weren't tracking it, it would move out of the view in less than a minute.
i have a meade ds2130 apeture 127mm 350times magnification and barlow leanse is this somthing that i would b able to see im kinda a noob to telescopes if some1 could let me some of things i could c good with this type of tele plz reply thnx
with 4 inches of apeture, you can see about 100 or so +- galaxies... but you have 127mm which is just over 4 and a half inches so you probably would be able to see some galaxies.
if you go on google imagesand type in m51 cross, it will show you a close up image of the galaxy which nasa took and it will blow your mind, its insane!
Amazing.
Aero159X 3 months ago
I know the location of it, but i can NEVER see it~! Ive got binoculars, but i never see it, im on the country too~ TnT
2012TheAndromeda 3 months ago
Yip, definitely moving, i saw it. It was moving.
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yuta04172000 8 months ago
It's just unreal, the videos of planets and all of this from Earth, I love it
MissGravesBlogs 9 months ago
@johnk1302 google "mallincam"... they aren't cheap, but they aren't that expensive either. Cool stuff you can do these days with some "modest" equipment. Cant wait to see what we've got 20 years into the future!!
Basard100 1 year ago
Hey, Can I ask can a Mallincam be used with lets say a nexstar 6se or CPC 800 for example? or are there certain telescopes that can be used with it, any advice would be greatly apreciated.
rjr16uk 1 year ago
How long would you have to observe a galaxy like this one to see a noticeable difference in the arm position? I would guess many many years, but what do I know.
lee155912000 1 year ago
@lee155912000 10s of millions of years, but I'm not sure of that either.
jmagus1 1 year ago
@lee155912000 Too long for a lifetime.
Xell12345 5 months ago
Its amazing to think that there could be thousands of planets that have life in that one galaxy.
EvenFive 1 year ago
@EvenFive Yeah ikr! It's amazing
Kanciapaa 10 months ago
@johnk1302 Find my M27 video and you can see some tracking error movement in that one.
jmagus1 1 year ago
@johnk1302 The video camera does stack the video frames. In the video above you'd be 14 seconds behind live. I haven't used filters, but there are many Mallincam users out there who do, and like them, especially light pollution filters. The above video was shot with a Celestron 14", but we're doing better now with smaller scopes and better cameras. I viewed it in Utah, good skies, and the camera naturally magnifies to that FOV.
jmagus1 1 year ago
if it was real there would be no color and that is just to clear
italicslob 1 year ago
@italicslob Well, it's a video. If you'd just get a Mallincam you'd see if for yourself (if you have a telescope). I can't believe how far behind so many of you are. I see these images, in this color, in this way, with this clarity, ALL OF THE TIME, and even professional astronomers are blown away. I'll be seeing Orion, the Flame, the Horsehead, the Running Man, M78, and a dozen others in their full color glory and clarity, AND in 3d, in approximately four nights from now....again. It's a video!
jmagus1 1 year ago
If you click from the beginning of the video to the end you can see how everything moves.
Allanpullay 1 year ago
Very nice, do you also see the galaxy that detailed (but black n white) or is is slightly worse with the eye? I haven't seen it because of the light pollution in my area, I bare saw the core of the triangulum galaxy with 8"....
gallan30 1 year ago
@AstronomyGuru1 thanks for the info. ill try that.
Chrisaaad 1 year ago
i wonder if i can see this with a 4.5 " telescope
Chrisaaad 1 year ago
i thought dat my 60mm scope would shoot pics lik dat :(
nehal0001 1 year ago
fake is movie galaxy M51 pictures!
lukasz749 1 year ago
@lukasz749 Nope, it's a video. Shot it myself. Don't know how many times I'm gonna have to tell this crowd. IT'S A VIDEO. So just accept it. Today is November 1, and I'll be going out to look at video of deep space objects all night tonight, using a Starizona Hyperstar, which considerably speeds up the scope for videography or photography. Look it up. Maybe you'll get convinced. Just because you're so far behind the times doesn't mean that I am.
jmagus1 1 year ago
Nope, it's a video. If you guys would just get a Mallincam you'd see it for yourself. I've decided the next time I do some video captures I'm going to tap on the scope so that you all can see the movement. But why not just get with the program, obtain one of these cameras and view it for yourself?
jmagus1 1 year ago
nice picture, but this isn't a video
Superspaceshuttle 1 year ago
It is a video. When you dudes gonna give it up and go get a high-end video camera and get rid of those pointless eyepieces? It's a video. Get used to it.
jdblueemerald 1 year ago
And I'm shooting even better video now, because the cameras are better. And I'm now using a 2d to 3d converter between the camera and the monitor and am seeing these beauties in pseudo 3d now, and it's more incredible than ever.
jdblueemerald 1 year ago
there it sits and does *n0thing*
it not even sings a s@ng for us
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(i accept that i should have written "IT")
4tXI 1 year ago
a cazzàro
appighio 1 year ago
It's simply amazing how you are looking at such a massive, huge galaxy with your own eyes on a video!
TekHelper 1 year ago
Its amazing to find that you are looking into the very distant past! And to think that life could be there, tons of life! Its so exciting.
KurtDavies09 1 year ago
Man, in a few million, or billion years, we will have amassed enough data to watch it swallow that little baby galaxy in stop-motion... mua haha.
Basard100 1 year ago
It has beautiful spiral arms!!
nickharvey7 2 years ago
Amazing,R'this Amature made images,,,becouse they look good
yugotec010 2 years ago
@yugotec010 Yeah. You can actually find lots of amateurs doing this kind of work. Visit stargazerslounge . com imaging section haves loads of them.
It does take a massive amount of time to grasp all the knowledge and a few thousand dollars help too. :)
pvaz 1 year ago
Exellent video....with my 8" it is just a dream to see m51 like that! Have you used the obsession 30" or 25"? or the celestron 14"?
5*!!
lordfabri 2 years ago
Do you lot know why it doesen't move ? Cos its light haven't came to earth yet, so we dont see it, it might be looking completly different now...
JamolVids12 2 years ago
That doesnt matter, if the light havnt reached us yet it would mean that we wouldnt even be able to SEE the galaxy. The light which was sent, lets say 10 years ago, have reached us now so we should be able to see how it moved 10 years ago. It doesnt freeze just because of the distance. It doesnt appear to move because of the size of the galaxy.
peronkop 2 years ago 2
it DOse look different now, This is 31 Million Lightyears away from earth, wich means, it takes the Light from this 31 Million Years to Travel to earth, so when you look at it, you seee it 31 million Years ago... your looking 31 millions years into back in time
umpalumpa101909 2 years ago
i just said that ;o
JamolVids12 2 years ago
Yes you did, xD oops, but my way makes it sound better :P
umpalumpa101909 2 years ago
It kinda did ;D
JamolVids12 2 years ago
:D S'all good :P
umpalumpa101909 2 years ago
Yep :D
JamolVids12 2 years ago
Is this is what you will see when looking through the scope with the naked eye, or will it not be as clear, provide the conditions are the same?
Dafariii 2 years ago
No. You'd need at least a 50" mirror to see it like this with eyepieces. With the 14" with which this was shot, in excellent conditions you see it as a gray spiral with decent detail in the arms, and with the right magnification it takes up about 1/3rd of the view.
jdblueemerald 2 years ago
thank you
Dafariii 2 years ago
Excellent video. Wish I could see this amount of detail in my 14inch dob but there's too much light pollution in S. London & mirror has a turned-down edge, ugh!
perrin6 2 years ago
I have this excat NASA photo as my Windows Vista background, I love it! But why make a video of this photograph and claim it as your own? Seems a little unethical, dont you agree?
AdministrativeDept 2 years ago
Its his. Wow your stupid. I know that picture your talking about and its not the one in this video.
Germanboy567 2 years ago
read description, it says through astro channels 14''....
rialbb 2 years ago
this is a picture not a video
valsamm 2 years ago
It's a video. I shot it myself. The cameras are converted surveillance cameras. So, I'll say it one more time: It's a VIDEO.
jmagus1 2 years ago
I told it's a video because I do not notice seeing effects that usually disturb such kind of images. Anyway congrats!
valsamm 2 years ago
You can see M51 moving as it is being filmed.
Steven197981 2 years ago
Not unless he has a motor for his equatorial mount.
Germanboy567 2 years ago
let's stop the pretending. This isn't a video...the camera takes a short exposure and then shows you the image on the monitor, this process is repeated. 1 frame every 10 seconds is hardly video.
There are very few telescope on earth that would give you a view like this through the eyepiece (mostly because all of the big telescopes don't use eyepieces).
mmamilano 2 years ago
Wrong. It's video. Shot it myself and captured it directly. What it is is 128 frames per 12 second aperture-open exposure, so the image captured is 12 seconds behind live viewing. Sorry, but you're wrong. Whole new paradigm, and the amateur astronomy world just needs to catch up a bit.
jmagus1 2 years ago
it's a series of 12 second exposures. hardly what i'd call a video.
regardless; it's nothing like what you see through an eyepiece.
mmamilano 2 years ago
Just because it's not moving doesn't mean it's not a video. Besides, it a GALAXY.
They orbit very slow, so it would take a very long time for them to spin around.
ArataMusic1 2 years ago
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Zeldaman560 2 years ago
Amazing. I'm trying to get photos of M51 with a celestron cpc11 and an orion starshoot II, I'm not even close to those results, all I get is a (very) blurry spyral. Can you share how you achieve that result?
gyanniflying 2 years ago
It's a MallinCam video camera set on all the optimal video capture settings. The M51 "image" is in fact a video capture direct from the camera into video capture software and then uploaded as is to YouTube.
jdaliix 2 years ago
Probably should mention that these video cameras have made still astrophotography mostly obsolete, but obviously we'll never be able to get captures like the best amateur and professional work out there. But we're getting to see the images live on our monitors, immediately, without having to do hours of exposure, and then move onto other objects, 30 a night, if we want.
jdaliix 2 years ago
t;hat is amazing.. nice shot!
jamieball 2 years ago
i might buy a 4 inch skymax cassegrain scope. i know the aperature is small, but what can i expect to see at 50x with this scope on a clear night.... i imagine it will be two bright cores with a haze surrounding them. i think i might just be able to see the bridge that joins them with averted vision. i'm looking for an all round scope with binoviewers to get similar views of galaxies as you would in giant binoculars but better on planets, moon and clusters
26dano 2 years ago
Not without a camera. With my 14" Celestron and 2" binos I could make out two bright cores and the bridge, but not well, and that was in very good seeing conditions. If you add the camera, however, you'll see it the way it would be seen with an 18" Dob, for example.
jmagus1 2 years ago
Can You See This In A Celestron Nexstar 4se ??? Pleaze Reply
jupiterswansea 2 years ago
It's always about light-gathering, and I don't know what a 4se is, and it doesn't seem to be listed on Celestron's site. However, whatever scope you have, it's going to emulate a scope of 4 times its aperture when using a camera.
jmagus1 2 years ago
you could see M51 but not with nearly this much detail. from a dark site you would see the cores as faint (probably very faint in the 4se), fuzzy looking patches of light
chainsawcharlie 2 years ago
did you just put a picture up?
letsgetjiggyniggy 2 years ago
Not sure what you mean, but if you're talking about the video above, it's a video.
jmagus1 2 years ago
oh it looked like a picture cos nothing was moving.
letsgetjiggyniggy 2 years ago
Galaxies do tend to be pretty stationary when viewed from our perspective, but that's because we're tracking it. If we weren't tracking it, it would move out of the view in less than a minute.
jmagus1 2 years ago
It looks like it's not moving because from Earth distance (Too far) you can't see something such huge as Galaxy moving
SpAcE9978269 2 years ago
Also something to check out for all you telescope users, The Great Orion Nebula has been looking amazing these past summer nights.
Chslosers 3 years ago
thnx 4 the reply you tube! very helpfull you tube rulez' keep up thegood work
alphaomega223 3 years ago
i have a meade ds2130 apeture 127mm 350times magnification and barlow leanse is this somthing that i would b able to see im kinda a noob to telescopes if some1 could let me some of things i could c good with this type of tele plz reply thnx
alphaomega223 3 years ago
with 4 inches of apeture, you can see about 100 or so +- galaxies... but you have 127mm which is just over 4 and a half inches so you probably would be able to see some galaxies.
rialbb 3 years ago
you can see this in your 14` telescope?
Surfelix 3 years ago
Yes, but actually better than that because the videos aren't nearly the quality they are on the monitor.
jdaliix 3 years ago
Its called a spiral galaxy and our galaxy is also a spirqal galaxy.
freestyleskiingssick 3 years ago
I am the second person to comment on this page. Damn it!
Columbo794 4 years ago
One of the most beautiful galaxies I've ever
seen.
vigo894 4 years ago
if you go on google imagesand type in m51 cross, it will show you a close up image of the galaxy which nasa took and it will blow your mind, its insane!
aandj293 3 years ago
I saw it. It's incredible.
vigo894 3 years ago